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Yeal, I hear voices and other audibles often during the trance state, both during meditation and the inbetween sleep/awake state at night. To me they seem to come from different sources, mostly hypnogoic. The most common is random incoherent talk and laughter. Also fairly common are shouts directed to me. I mostly ignore everything except teaching voices. Usually they are hard to understand, but sometimes they are more clear and sometimes the being that is teaching is visible. If the teachings are from a higher "me" or a separate being is really academic to me, I find them important.

HI Glacius,

I'm able to do the trance state fine because of my mediation experience.  But I don't know much about leaving my body.  Should I try the rope tech. as described by Bruce?

Thanks, Rudy

Yes, I'm familiar with hypnogogic images and sounds. There has been a recent step up in the intensity of them. Last night was like being in a storm of sound, images and body sensations. Like they were all being blow and tossed everywhere.

Yeal, first time I've ever had a dual awareness like that.  Hard to describe it because the experiences and thoughts for each me were simultaneous. But there was no confusion due to the duality, just strange.  I'm Buddhist (Kagu linage) and the retreat was part of a 6mo. course I've been participating in.  The retreat was in Colorado at the Shambhala Mountain Center (a 600 acre Tibetan retreat center). I'll be going back next mo. for a one month long winter retreat.  Be interesting to see if any of this continues.

Last night some odd things were going on.  While holding the in between sleep/awake state (I do this as part of my meditation path) I kept getting "knocks".  They were kind of like the jerk that happens when you start to fall asleep but catch yourself.  But whereas the jerk is more like something I do to myself, this was more like an impact and it had an audible "knock" to it.  There would be one, two or three knocks, in quick succession. They continued for awhile after falling asleep, and would wake me up.  
Then once there was a kind of voom-voom-voom sensation. Auditory and vibratory sensation.  That only happened once.  
I've meditated for many years and have had occasional OBE through my life, but there seems be an increase in things happening over the last several months, since increasing my number of meditation retreats.  
I'd appreciate any feed back.

Thanks, Rudy

HI Stephen,

Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving to all.  I had some strange happenings last PM.  I'd like some feed back, so I'll look around and see where is best to post them.

Thanks, Rudy

Hello,

I'm reading Astral Dynamics, and it is helping me understand an experience I had last week while on a meditation retreat. Through my life I have had an occasional lucid dream or OBE, but no dual awareness like this time. It was the second day of a week long meditation retreat. I was sitting on the front row of the meditation hall doing the first early morning session of long day of meditation. I was well centered and able to see my thoughts before they fully formed. I was getting a lot of images which would form and dissolve, not unusual for me. Then a more complex image began forming. I thought it was a visual day dream and was about to let it go when I realized it was the outer room before entering the meditation hall. I watched it for a moment before realizing, hey I'm really here. I'm standing here in the outer room. I looked around and saw all the familiar displays, etc. It was identical to it's normal appearance except the lighting was darker than usual. At the same time I was experiencing being out in the outer room, I was also experiencing sitting on the mat meditating. The me that was in the outer room walked over to the meditation room door and looked into the meditation hall. I saw everyone sitting there meditating (backs to me), and there I was sitting on the front row in meditation posture. Simultaneously, I was sitting on the mat aware of me standing at the door looking at me sitting on the mat. I thought, how strange! Then my meditating self became more dominate, and my awareness returned fully to my self that was meditating. A strange experience.