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I imagine that would get pretty ugly.  Especially if other people got wind of it.  Your body would be put on life support probably.  Unless you took it out into a cave in the desert or something.  It would be hard not to have compassion for it, suffering and dying.  That compassion alone would probably be enough to find yourself back in it.  Well, you hear tales of Indian gurus who just sit in lotus posture and leave and don't come back.  Eventually their body dies.  So I suppose it's possible.  I also prefer the astral to the physical, except that the physical is the locale of people I love and can't leave unless I have to. Also, and this is unprovable, but it's possible we have these bodies for reasons not always apparent to us.  Once on the astral, there was a sort of committee, for lack of a better word, that was discussing my case, and I woke up, and then after I woke up, I heard one of the women say, clear as a bell, on the physical level mind you!, "She has to learn to live to infinity in the world".  So, based on that (not very scientific!) evidence, taking matters into our own hands as far as death goes.......I dunno.  Might be a mistake.  You might find yourself back in a body even less to your liking faster than you can say boo, for that matter.

My first real-time out of body projection was about three weeks ago although I've been "waking up" in my astral body from a dream all of my life.  But I'm really excited about real-time projection!  The way it happened is this---I've had a chronic pain condition for several years and I'm at that place where I'm just sick of being in my body (but I can't die because I have a husband and child) so one day after I dropped my daughter off at school, I came home and went to bed, just because I wanted out of my body.  The emotional state was very strong.  Then I lifted up out of my body and floated down the hall!  I sort of stalled going around the corner to the kitchen (I'm figuring the feng shui people would say there's a blockage there so I'm going to cure that) but then I started "swimming" and got going again very well!  Then I went back to my body.  Since then, I've done real-time projection about five times, never out for more than a few seconds.  I get very excited still and can't sustain the state.  It's the most fun, or at least parallels the most fun!,  I've ever had.  I want to get good enough at it to start doing research.

then it sounds like to me that floating height is something that we're adjusting subconsciously to our perceived environment rather than it being a function of mass.  thanks, hej

hey--well I checked with one of the moderators and it's ok if we start running experiments in here; we can just open a thread, hej

The main thing is not to give up.  I used to become aware that I was in my astral body out of a dream fairly regularly; only recently have I had success in real-time zone projection right outside of my body, and I think once you start doing it, it gets easier and easier.  Like since my first one about two weeks ago, I've had five.  The thing that finally got me out was, and this won't work for you tonight!, sorry, just complete disgust with my body; I just wanted out; I had a very strong emotional state going (chronic pain).  I don't know how you simulate that but maybe if you just keep wanting to.  The other thing that has been good has been to be too fatigued to get excited when I started exiting my body.  How about if you start playing around with your sleep schedule so that you're really sleepy when you try?  Frustration seems rather inevitable when you keep trying something and you're not getting apparent results, but everytime you try, you get closer.  I'm reading Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce right now--he talks about alot of techniques, but, you have to try one that works for you...

It's been a while since you posted--how are you doing?  If you're describing what I've felt before---that slightly out of sync feeling--then in my case, yes you're close.  Just keep up.  You can't fail to succeed if you do.  For me the main thing has just been the desire.  It's exciting, and that stands in the way at first, but keep trying and it'll work out.

I was thinking this same thing and would be interested in helping somehow.  My husband is a techie guy so he could maybe help too.  I'm definitely looking for people to experiment with in just a little while when I get just a little more control and I'm sure others are too.  I notice there's already the Astral Pulse Island experiment happening.  I'm interested right now for instance in natural floating height and wonder if it's mentally controlled or if it's a gravitational/magnetic thing; if I had data from 100 other experimenters.......then I might have a clue.  It would be good to map out this terrain, to the extent that that's possible. Gotta go, hej

Hi--thanks.  That's funny, I'd just logged off and was thinking, wonder if it varies if you're outside, and then.....your post!  Interesting!  Inside, mine is about five feet from the floor.  I'm going to sleep outside and see if it varies.  Do you think it's a magnetic/gravitational thing or do you think your mind is adjusting your astral height to the physical world?

Hey guys I'm new.  Do any of you notice that you tend to float at a particular height, when you're not consciously directing your astral body that is?  Thanks, hej