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Soooo I am not sure where to begin with this... I have had numerous occasions where my spiritual experiences had some odd effects on various pieces of technology around me. Here are some occurrences, which I was able to determine were not caused by any common failure mode or anything from our world:

• I have had numerous incidents where after a particularly intense astral projection or other similar experience, some electronics near me especially that of lower quality would be completely destroyed with the issues being traceable to damage or full destruction of semiconductor components inside that happened while I was OBE-ing.
• Related to the first point, similar damage has happened to perfectly functional things when I am awake but in a "spirirtually high" state and on the verge of an OBE.
• One time when I was in a very intense spiritual headspace that again was the kind that was a precursor to OBE, one of my computers just hard shut off and detailed analysis after showed no explainable reason and it still works perfectly many years later.
• I once tried to photograph the temporary results of a very intense witchcraft ritual that resulted in some weird things happening to the substances I used. For the few seconds that the stuff I wanted to capture lasted, my phone was glitching like mad and the cameras appeared to have fully disconnected from the rest of the phone's hardware too.
• When floating around my bedroom a few years ago, every device with a screen on it appeared as a black void in the shape of its outline.
• Post astral projection data corruption on flash memory devices inside any computer that was not encased in metal used to be a rampant issue for me.
• Anything I've used in a large capacity for technomancy, unless it had a metal chassis, has especially been prone to excessive failures or glitches during any tech-aided witchcraft activities.
• On multiple occasions, intense spiritual activities have caused some of my phones to temporarily act like they were exposed to an EMP that is strong enough to mess with the screen but not destroy the phone.

Thankfully I've largely resolved this issue by getting a place big enough to where my OBE space can be reasonably distanced from all my expensive electronics, but things do still happen from time to time. Given my background in electrical engineering I would venture to think that intense spiritual activities might at times be causing my body to release some kind of EMP or ionizing radiation which would explain the weird effects on modern technology as both of those forms of radiation mess big time with semiconductors.

Just thought I might share this as a cautionary tale to others, especially since I am far from the only one who has experienced this and some people literally have their entire lives soaked with rampant electronics failures caused by frequent astral projection.

I think this is actually a really great and original question- Why do so many of our Non-Physical experiences of inquiry result in failure and near obstruction?

It seems to be a quality of our Earth/human experience that some of these existential questions remain unanswered and even blocked at times...maybe it's as simple as that, to keep us in the PR game simulation to learn from that perspective alone. Much of my own 60+ years exploration has been a combination of some success and mostly failure, much as you describe. The successes are pretty self-evident, the failures very perplexing and frustrating in their nature. One quality of the failures that stands out to me is the contributing imagery and lifelong struggles within my own subconscious...the images and storylines and inner difficulties...

This seems evident in your narrative, Chloe...the characterization of your inner exploration within the framework of your engineering background. It's not right or wrong, it's just your unique perspective. And within this context, anyone can offer advice, but only you can come to a more complete understanding for yourself.

My own voyage of discovery has involved many or variants of the situations you describe...I find the library, I read the book, decipher the language, but cannot make the complete translation, cannot understand the mathematical equations...the last several years it has devolved into lucid dreams of pulling out drawers and dumping a hundred useless objects I feel I must sort through...endless scenarios of that silly bedlam...

So much of this imagery comes from our personal subconscious, and the message I think, is to search elsewhere, mostly into your subconscious and how it communicates into your dreams and NP experiences...when I figure it out, I will let you know...if you figure it out first, please let me know.

Do not despair. this is the drudge work, the digging with a shovel...digging through both the NP and your own subconscious interpretation framework.

Haha yeah I agree big time. NP and subconscious stuff mix alot and it can be a minefield for me to separate the two. When you can at least discern between the two or filter out the subconscious entirely during an out of body experience, things can get pretty intense and you can get into some very interesting and often dark places. Better yet, filtering out subconscious interference can enable you to find tiny flaws in whatever experience you are having. Much like even the most secure computer, even the best protected reality has its flaws and I have made great progress on many matters both personal or otherwise whenever I've managed to exploit on of those "reality vulnerabilities". Its like a next-level version of finding a physics-breaking glitch in a video game or finding the weakness in the anti-modification protection of a computer program.

["There is nothing outside of yourself, look within. Everything you want is there. You are That." ~ Rumi]

To make along story short, I have always felt that I did not belong here, on this "place" called "Earth", but I knew I must be here for a reason. Always been Spiritually aware and close to nature. Due to my interest, from experience, in Astral Projection, I created this forum in 2002. Then around 2003, I was inspired to write a book entitled "Our Ultimate Reality, Life, the Universe and Destiny of Mankind". That was followed by 8 years of weekly newsletters on a multitude of Spiritual, metaphysical and life matters, read by people around the world.  If you are interested you can download the books from the downloads page of my website, link in my sig of this post.

I can say, for sure, that the entire knowledge of the Universe is within every human being to the extent we may access it. As you experienced yourself, the more focussed you become on Spiritual matters, the more it flows. All the knowledge and answers you seek can only be found within yourself, not "out there". Also, because the knowledge of the Universe is within everyone, although most are usually not aware of it, when they hear or see the truth, it often resonates within them as true. I have always said - if something heard or seen written resonates as true, then accept it as true, if not, then reject it.

To conclude, here is a quote from the great Sufi mystic:

"There is nothing outside of yourself, look within. Everything you want is there. You are That." ~ Rumi

Big same here. Always felt like I belonged in some better, freer version of this world that turns out to be a part of the astral I myself call the "secondary domain". Once you see that place or your core self in first/third person enjoying life there you can't unsee it and you realize how rigged our reality is specifically to not be like that place. The ultimate goal of seeking knowledge on the occult at is to make things, at the very least for yourself and if possible others too, better in this world by at least trying to bring some stuff from the astral here.

Welcome to the Astral Pulse Chloe. There is a vast repository of information here encompassing a wide range of knowledge and experience from members past and present to draw upon, and willing and able to answer any questions. Perhaps you could expand upon your desire to "reverse engineering out of body experiences", e.g. methodology or the meaning of the experience itself.

Ah yes I was waiting for someone to ask about that. Basically, for almost as long as I remember, I've really wanted to find a way to interface with the spiritual world in a way that could be proven by science and possibly performed with some kind of technology. When I started seriously getting into occultism and astral projection, I developed and extremely intense desire to look for a way to make images of other worlds or do something similar. Hence the reason for my attempts to try and pick apart the inner workings of my spiritual experiences in hopes of one day figuring out what enables them. Not sure if I will succeed in my lifetime but even if I do not I will leave whatever I've figured out for someone to pick up. I know it may sound outlandish and at times I see it like that myself, but I will always keep working on it. Unfortunately the astral has its ways of sabotaging the few times I've almost stolen pre-existing information that astral people have documented on the matter, so that is one problem I am currently dealing with along with the fact that any time I get close things in my personal and professional life also burn up and throw me into depression (which makes it very hard to astral project) for a while which I have been also trying to find a way around.

This applies to pretty much anything, whether it be knowledge of the astral or literally any other topic, but I seem to chronically keep becoming the very thing I seek after exhausting existing learnings. Specifically, I end up often endlessly searching for information on many topics that are personally relevant to me, end up hitting a wall, and then I end up figuring it out myself and often start teaching others and on occasion sharing it online too. Anyone else experience this weird "become the teacher/wisdomholder you once sought" effect? It's pretty fun to be honest and has lead to alot of personal growth for me over the years.

Wow. Especially the excessive "random" interest parts. Might explain why I am obsessively hoarding and consuming thousands of books and other academic materials and obsessed with learning many different fields in hopes of finding something I am looking for and just for the sake of knowledge.

This is a bit of an weird thing I've noticed and I'd like to hear if anyone has had experiences. So for the longest time I've been into trying to figure out how spiritual experiences work, think finding a way to scientifically explain astral projection and related things. There were a couple times where I got pretty close when trying to "steal" information on this matter from astral realities... but something would always stop me before I succeeded.

First attempt was trying to get to a book on inter-reality physics by going into the library of an astral university. Immediately as I got close, all the people surrounding my astral self began purposely distracting me and making a ton of noise. When I got to where the book I wanted was, I was instantly sent back to this reality and my earthly body.

The second time was even more intense. I started out by listening to a free basic guided meditation from the Monroe Institute, and initially landed in a starting spot in a place that resembled what my home would be like if everything was ideal in my life (think a "happy space" with all my dream hobby stuff, etc...) with a time signature (or "time feel") of some time in the year 2048. I then end up walking out of this house and into a gloomy rainy street, and then everything goes dark like I'm sucked into a black hole. A few moments later, I land in this dark area where in the background I hear my best friend's dead father telling me to follow him so I can stop lying to his son about who I am (I have hidden some aspects of my identity from the friend in question, and there are some reasons I'd rather not disclose as to why reverse engineering astral projection would enable me to quit hiding those things from him). I ended up in front of this lantern-lit building that was more than obviously some research facility, and my friend's father's presence vanishes. I go inside and in the lobby there are some late 90s era computers and such. The time signature felt like circa first quarter of 1998 (won't mention the month for privacy reasons), roughly two years before my birth. Immediately I realize from my surroundings and the intense spiritual sensations that I am in an abandoned research facility that likely lost alot of people due to some kind of radiation related accident when trying to make a link between realities. I am then drawn into an endless hallway straight forward and something draws me to a particular door on the left. It was a bookroom-office type space with books everywhere and a desk to my right. I begin going through the desk drawer and find a red book with a golden text title saying it was something about "reality hacking". I begin to flip through it and immediately see a bunch of otherworldly math formulas between the other text that are completely different from any kind of math I have seen. Realizing that I'm probably on borrowed time after what happened the first time, I begin to flip through looking for at least a main answer to the workings of astral projection and other inter-reality activities, with the plan of looking back at the weird math if I didn't get sent back to earth. Needless to say I eventually hit the jackpot and see this vector plot of an inter-reality portal-like field and immediately recognized it as a vector force plot due to my engineering background. The minute my brain fired up with excitement and looked towards the bottom of the page to see the description, just before I could process what was written, BOOM! I immediately began to lose all my energy, my vision began to blur and fade as if I was suddenly dying, and I end up waking up on earth in my mundane physical body.

There have been other manifestations of this kind of self-protection mechanism, including when I've attempted to manually reverse engineer astral worlds and intermediary spaces, and its really weird. Its like it knows that I am capable of such stuff if not stopped and that it is my personal life purpose to at least get somewhere towards a discovery of this magnitude, and whatever it is it just sabotages me. There was even an incident where I failed and then before being sent back to earth I was stuck in this hellish underworldy space alone while a song I normally associate with personal success began playing all around me in an unprecedentedly profusely mocking/ridiculing tone until I started to sob which sent me right back to earth.

My question is, has anyone else experienced this?

Hi!

My name's Chloe. I've been astral projecting for years and then fell out of it for a while when my professional life and its problems made me too depressed to easily astral project. Been experimenting with some things lately again after some interesting unexpected out of body experiences and decided I might as well join here as I used to lurk this forum in the past and always had a desire to join. My personal mission in life is to at least try and reverse engineer out of body experiences.