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When it is touching me in the evening before sleep or during meditations, is it possible that that really is a energetic double, and that it is trying to get back in to the real body, but how could it survive for so long??

Coud it be that the energetic doubles energy is no longer comparable to my current energy, since i try very hard to be more positive/upbeat, etc... and trust me that does not come easy for me....

@ Szaxx

You might be right,

1) i have tryed the mind split effect AP and only felt partial results numerous times.
Same with the rope technique. Maybe i have created something unconsciously, since i was always under the impression that after the ap is done the double would merge back with the real body.
Which leads me to think that there could possibly been numerous doubles created by me in various places??

I did not sense any other entities before learning about meditation & ap in my room. Around ~3 years back and prior to that.But then again i was less sensitive to energy back then, now that my chakras are always open, i instantly feel attetion/emotions when interacting with other people in day to day situations.

When it is touching me in the evening before sleep or during meditations, is it possible that that really is a energetic double, and that it is trying to get back in to the real body, but how could it survive for so long??

[if i had found a way to connect/ comunicate i would]

Do you watch a lot of horror movies?

If you do, stop!

No, why do you assume that i would be scared, i get bothered by it sometimes, no doubt.

Remember this thread? I do

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/some_otherdimensional_beings_in_my_room-t39562.0.html;msg323446#msg323446

Did the problem leave and return again after 4 months?  

It has been here  for at least, i dunno ~ 2 years, if i had found a way to connect/ comunicate i would have moved on. That is what this forum would be about no?
It is more of a nuisance then a problem really.

you see, i am talking to it / trying to talk, with no response from the other side.
Just this morning when i woke up the thing was hovering above me just some ~50 inches above me,
there i am trying to comunicate once again with no response, sometimes i get the feeling its here 24/7.
In evenings i feel it the most.
Mostly or /exclusively it is in my room, besides that i am probably more senitive to it and my family members dont sense it.
I tryed to comunicate numerous times during meditation aswell, i often feel it touching me on the back/shoulders but that's as far as it goes, i dont get any visions or thoughts, from it...

another thing, i forgot to mention is that when it is near me i often get a electric sound in my ear, sometimes in both ears, i get the same/ simular sound when i am in deep meditation aswell.

How exactly do i comunicate with it??

it comes to me almost every evening , it even comes to me when im just sitting by the computer or just watching tv. And it stays here for many hours!!!

btw when it is near me, my 3rd eye chakra goes in to a much stronger state, then during any meditation i have ever had.

Also when it is near me the 3rd eye chakra gets uber active, while there is no response from the other chakras, except for the base chakra sometimes, but even that is nothing compared to the 3rd eye chakra and its strong activity.

I used to think that it is trying to comunicate, but i have not gotten any new thoughts or ideas from these encounters.

[But i defenetly feel it's presence]

There is some entity coming to my room.
I dont see anything besides white waves / wave forms
But i defenetly feel it's presence when it's near me.
I try to talk/ comunicate but no progress/ awnsers nothing.
The vibes i get from it are neither negative or positive.

I feel it touching me,( usualy a light electrical feel , sometimes it tickles me to the point i have to laugh) when it is vey near / above me my 3rd eye chakra goes in to a very strong active mode, it does not matter if my eyes are colsed or open,
i dont know sometimes i feel like it is working on my body on various spots

Sometimes i get the feeling like electromagnetic energy is being poured in to my 3rd eye chakra, but the thing is although i feel the very strong vibration , i dont see any visualisations and dont really get any new thoughts from the encounter not during night time or in the morning after the sleep.


what could it be??, and what would it  be doing to me,??

Hey, long time no see!!!
Back on topic:
Is there a connection??
I would think so, judging from my personal expierience.

Sometimes during sleep/ after i would wake up and the bottom chakra would be very strongly active, and i would have had the kinkiest dreams imaginable. Not that im a prude by any stretch of the word being my usual self.

Thanks guys, will have a lot of reading to do tomorrow!!!

There are methods like the circulation of white light and L.B.R.P. , from the golden dawn , there easy to find or I can post some free links .  There also in many books on the golden dawn . desert rat  

Yeah man, give me them free links.

[imo]

1)I seem to be having bad luck, 2) also i have a lot of conflicts on daily basis, i am a peacful good guy imo (loads of people would disagree) and i never really get on with other people well, and if i do it's for a short while, i have to admit that i do think of myself first and foremost though.... in many situations
But i never for my whole life have got on with other people well
2) nothing ever goes according to plan
3) i always (  umm well for the most part) seem to make the wrong decisions & choices
so i figure why not look in to it....................

I dont know, it happens unexpected in normal day to day situations, it sometimes feels more like a stab.
I never had it happen to me before, but the last 1/2 years i have started meditating and now it happens to me.

Also sometimes when i meditate i feel as if a hand is touching me on the shoulder ( but in such situations it is a very soft/mild touch)
But when it happens during the day while i am reading or what not, it is a styrong electrical stab, like a bite,
i dont know what this could be?

to think it's something mundane rather than mystical.

Reason why i put it here is because it has a unnatural electric feel to it..........

where can i get one, post a link where can i download it for free, thanks in advance!

Lately, every once in a while for the last year i have strange shivers on shoulders never on both the same time, if it happens it is usually on the left side imo, the thing is it feels somewhat unnatural electric, what does it mean?It happens rarely & unexpected. Btw, i never had this happening to me before except for the last year now it happens ~ around 2 times per week.

~ 6, the most noticable/spectacular one was on my birthday lol, and no i was too young back then to be drunk

[directly]

imo there are two types of them here, the first one that floats around the room and above me that i can feel touching me is a light white wavy mass of energy. First type is larger and floats trough all directions of my bedroom.

The second one, that imo does not intervine, but watches me all the time, is a light blue round light (~ 5 cm large) that only appears on walls and is watching me, i can see it very very often but it fades away when i look at it directly

[How exactly are they helping?]

It will just be friends and helpers trying to let you know they are helping. They have most likely always been around, just that now you are becoming aware of them 

How exactly are they helping? And why do they need to touch me? I could defenetly use some help for sure, nothing ever really goes my way and nothing really goes according to plan for me unfortunately.

I think i would agree that they might have been here before i started to notice them,(before i became more aware) and  (I dont think my mom notices theyre presence). Then again i dont notice them in other rooms other then my own.
(in my room i meditate try to project & all the spiritual action happens here) Maybe they are not interested in other family members, just me?

@ roman67

How exactly does one comunicate with them? I would like a method so i can proove it to myself that a comunication has happened.

what does  L.B.R.P mean?

IM Gonna check what elementals are.
But i dont think these are human thought forms, i can see and sense them/it  very well when it is near me.
When i lay in bed i can even feel it touching me, plus the activity is allways a lot more common in the evening and night then during day & morning.
Well i dont see it well but defenetly sense it for sure.

So here is the deal, while i have never really AP-ed, i have tryed many times & meditated & partially floated above my physical body numerous times.
I have done all this in my room, with time passing i have for the last year started to see white wavy lights in my room. I feel it more then i see it, i emidiately feel them when they are near me.
They hower over me and seem to touch me esspecialy in the neck area & chest area and my face i dont know why.
I can actualy feel the touch .

I am not really afraid and i dont think that it is a real person projecting in my room because these beings seem to be here 24/7.

When ever i watch some movie or even wank of to some nasty porn they are here watching me.
When i go to sleep i lay on my back and they are allways touching my chest & neck and face.
When i see the white wavy mass in front of me i usualy wave my hand at them.
I have no idea who and what it might be but at late nights you can feel it / see it sense it alot more then in the morning or midday.

I have no idea is it positive or negative, but it is defenetly touching me.
And i was wondering is there a fast & easy way to even get rid of it, not so much because of the fear factor but i  get annoyed that the being is here every evening.

I remember Robert Bruce talking something about energy beings feeding of human energy and that one way to determine if you are a victim of it is if you dont hyave much luck (my case) BUT THEN AGAIN I WAS NEVER REALLY LUCKY MY WHOLE LIFE TO BEGIN WITH.

Otoh, i lately when i wake up i have a strange loving feeling when i wake up in the morning don't know where that's coming from.
Also sometimes when i am enjoying music or being more passionate i seem to see the being/entity more strongly.

HOW DOES ONE GET RID OF IT FAST AND EASY
ps. sorry for bad English

okay from the AD book..., i guess the only thing to do is ignore it as best as you can...??

Primary Center Pressure
Mild to intense pressure sensations are sometimes felt in the head as a result of primary energy center activity and energy movement during trance work or projection attempts. These are natural sensations, caused by some of the higher functions of the brow and crown centers, as these grow out of dormancy. Ignore pressure sensations as best you can. They are a good sign that these energy
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centers are responding to the stronger energetic flow caused by development exercises and projection attempts.
Pressure sensations, especially when localized to the brow center, indicate clairvoyant potential. Pressure is rarely intense enough to cause actual pain, but it will often be extremely uncomfortable. Intense episodes of pressure are unpredictable and infrequent. They are more often experienced by novice projectors who have done no significant energetic development before their projection attempt.

i have the pdf looking trough hmm.....

no that is a differnet book ( NEW ENERGY WAYS), CANT FIND ANYTHING THERE THUS FAR...

i also want to add, that i have absolutely no fear, i want to project real bad, and no matter how relaxed i am every time the 3rd eye chakra kick in to high gear and distracts me very much. The vibration is so strong , i can only describe it as a large needle the size of a pencil is being pushed right between my eyes in to my head, when i get tired (and give up ) and eventually roll on my side to go asleep it goes away.

[my 3rd eye chakra kicks in to high gear]

Every time when i want to AP, when i am relaxed i'm waiting for my body to fall asleep, i try to relax to the maximum, not think any thoughts try not to move (all  the usual stuff) and when i am allmost there, suddenly my 3rd eye chakra kicks in to high gear( very strong), of course i dont see any visions and what not, i just feel a very strong pressure right in the middle between my eyes and it wont go away.
and that is a major nuisance for me, what to do, i have it happening to me every time, it wont go away, any solutions, anything written about this, i cant be the only one?

[BUT]

thanks for the welcome.(btw sorry for my bad English, i'm from Latvia (east europe)

I have experimented a lot with a few methods, (rope & mind split, etc..)
I have a suspicion that sitting would be better for me then lying dowm. For what ever reason.

@ Greytraveller

Of course i know what lucid dreaming is ,BUT the only times also about (2 to 3) i have had L. Dreams was times when deep at sleep i would accidentaly roll on my arms ( which cutts of the blood supply) then i would wake up & still follow the dreams but not for long since my body would  tingle strongly and i just feel very strong discomfort at that moment and have to shake it off
Of course after that my L D is also gone.

Althogh i don't have any L dreams, many of my dreams are quite vivid and i have a very good  dream recall . It is so good that i would say (~ 25 out of 30 days) i can recall one or more dreams.
The best recalls are from 3-6 o'clock in the morning in my case (probably in most cases as well)

Sometimes i even get some LD supplements like Galantamine, b vitamins, mugwort, etc...

To my suprise the greatest dream killer for me is meditation right before bedtime.
If i do that, i have no dream recall no nothing in the morning. Strange but true

By far most of my dreams are about my old home where i used to live untill i was 12 years old and had to move to a apartment.( i just turned 25 in early August)
Almost as many of my dreams are about money, i have had loads of dreams where i have pockets full of cash lol (while in reality i am poor ). Lots of sexual dreams aswell, and even many dreams about love, where i would be together with the most beutifull women imaginable I can't explain this one, but sometimes when i wake up and have to go to the work i even feel a very good love vibrations, you wake up and feel very good, although there really should be no reason to do so.

I have even had dreams where i would talk to someone about astral projection and how to do it ( maybe that is my higher self trying to wake me up, i don't know)

I also have had times, when i am meditating , i would suddenly just know/feel that some being has just entered my room and is watching me, and when i open my eyes i don't see anyting there in front of me, but i just know that this entety is right here with me, for what ever reason.

There have been quite a few oddities in the last few yers, that i'll leave to another thread.

The last thing i would like to add, is that many times when i am meditating and esspecially when i am trying The mind split effect method, i have strong cracking noises/sounds all over my apartment.
What does it mean, is that the sound when some other enteties are entering my room?

sup everyone, noob here ( to the forum) but i have been unsuccesfully trying to project for about 3 years now.
Now, i'm not saying that i try to project every night, but as the title says, i am very depressed about the fact that i can't project ( which is something i really want to do)

the best i could do so far were 3 attempts over the years, where i have my astral feet above my real body, and my head sink in to the bed, but i was stuck and could not move anywhere (and that is the best i could do so far )

another thing that bothers me very much is when i try to project i have a strong pressure in the 3rd eye chakra which puts me off.
i'm also not the most patient man, so while i am waiting for the body to fall asleep, i usually loose myself and fall asleep.
that's about it i'm afraid