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I recently experienced a case of the vibes using a lucid dream preset of all things. Took about an hour and half before it started to work to my surprise.  I really like the program since it really relaxes me and helps me quiet my mind for trance work.  Not sure if the program alone will  induce an OBE but as a trance and relaxation tool it works well. Hope this helps you out.

I been using the book Astral Dynamics as my source of information on NEW. The online tutorial is almost identical to the chapters in the book.  There is no set time duration for any of the execerises listed in the book. I'm not sure if is is written specifically, but I sense Mr. Bruce leaves it up to the reader's discretion on how long to practice each exercise. If you feel you have stimulated enough energy in your feet/legs and hands/arms  then continue on to the next section.

The carrot is based of an old saying, which I cannot fully remember.   People would use a carrot suspended directly in front of a horse to motivate the horse to move forward, thus pulling the cart along.  Once the horse pulled the cart to its final destination it finally receives the carrot as its reward. I added the golden part since people seem to respond well to gold.   People also respond well to sex so your rabbit analogy works as well.   <grin>

Back on topic - what I want to acheive for all this time and effort is personal proof of consciouness free from phsyical form ( ie life after death) and to explore the wonders of the universe in the RTZ.

Your convictions and persistence is inspiring. My little chatter in my mind usuals says " come on your too tired to do this - go to sleep instead". I have to remain focused on that golden carrot to keep pressing on as well. But then I am easy distracted.  Keep striving for that tingle the rewarding sense of accomplishment will be that much greater!!

I kind of view the NDE and OBE two different phenomenons. Thier similar in that the both have consciousness outside the phsyical body, but NDE may also include the tunnel, life review, meeting of loved ones and possiblity of meeting the supreme being or higher self (whichever you choose to call it). Has anyone here experienced similar traits to that of an NDE while APing?

I think it understandable when you invest alot of time and energy in achieving something that once experienced you start to focus back on other things you might have neglected.  A vacation away from APing you might say.

Thanks for the replies! Thank goodness, I already have my plate full with energy manipulation and trance state induction to worry about including prayers or protective rituals as well.

Hang in there. I normally go a week to two weeks without experiencing squat. Then one night I will experince a lucid dream or a case of the vibes. Last couple of times I have review my OBE journal and focus on my minor successes and that seems to help me.  Maybe focusing on the positive experiences you had may help you as well. Good luck and think postive.

I can relate to knucklebrain1970, I too have to concentrate and focus very hard too.  After two freaking months of doing just the basic thumb execerise I am finally feeling something. I have difficulty reproducing the sensation of physical touch with just my awareness.  I have to visualize
touching  or brushing in order for me to feel something.  I just started on my feet and legs and so far I can feel some slight tingling but then my feet always seem to tingle; perhaps poor blood circulation. Good Luck and your not alone in your struggles!

I was reading article "astral signposts" that kodemaster link in a previous topic. According to the author he was instructed to always say a pray to protect him before he projects? I am not a very spiritual person nor do I really buy into the whole psychic protection mentality. However, since I am fairly new to the game and in the spirit of keeping an open mind, is this really necessary? I don't recall reading this in any other AP material. How many people here belief this is necessary and what prayers or protections techniques do you use? Just curious.

Hey Cobalt

I share the same goal as you in travelling into space; exploring stars, nebula,  the vast wonders of the universe.  To keep me motivated I keep focusing on potential rewards of AP. Imagine the thrill to see the lunar landing sites. To visit Olympus Mons on Mars or pass through the rings of Saturn. Thats what I use to motivate me.  Now that you experienced the vibrations you know what to expect. Try to change the fear of the unknown into the thrill of exploration.

Since starting to try to have an OBE, I feel strong vibrations which usually lasts under 30 seconds once every other week.  It feels like a tiny high frequencies waves thoughout my body.  I have yet to turn those vibrations into a conscious exit OBE. Usually they just stop suddenly leaving me awake and aware.  Sometimes I hear sounds too. If I do exeperince any type of sound it usually preceeds the vibration sensations.  Most sounds I experinece have a tunneling like effect which is really cool.

Thank you all for the warm welcome!

Any way you can put those charts into a Excel spread sheet or Word document? I did a print preview of the images and only 25 % of the image would print on a single page.

Interesting concept...  I once ponder what would if you someone would Astral travel to a black hole. Would it suck them in as well?  Not sure I would want to test that theory.  One of my secondary reasons to explore Astral projection is to explore the wonders of space. Since I doubt I will ever get a chance of actual space travel in my lifetime. AP seems the only ticket available to me.  Heres to reaching the stars and back!

Congrats on your success.   I use SBAGEN / BWGEN to mask the noises around me. Plus I find that focusing on the white noise and frequencies helps me quiet my random thoughts.

Hi,

Been lurking on the boards for a couple of weeks now. Decided to finally join the conversation. I have started my quest in AP about a month ago. I am reading Astral Dynamics and slowly working my way through the NEW exercises. Since my start of my journey I have experience 4 cases of vibrations with one case a partial OBE ( at least I think so) and 1 very vivid and intense Lucid Dream about having an OBE. My main goal of OBE is to determine if the experience is a product of an overactive brain or proof of a separate and independent consciousness. For Frank sake, I will not rehash the topic of real experience vs. imagination.
 Normally I am very skeptical of paranormal activity and spiritually speaking I have no spirituality. Yet I am keeping an open-minded approach and I hoping I will succeed in my quest.  Actually I have been pleased with my results up to this point.  I am definitely interested in other people progress in their OBE experiences.