We can learn alot about how we are programmed by observing what we classify as good or as evil.
Jeffery Dahmer was in pain his whole life, the only way he found to express it was to kill people and drink alot. Bush drank alot. He may also be at least partially responsible for the 655,000 non-combatant Iraqi folks who've died as a result of the war, and the torture of more people than Sadam ever ordered. And reveling in the killing of al-Zarqawi may be considered evil its self.
"Nazi's killed Communists, does that make them good?" Does that mean you think Communists are evil? Many people think capitalists are evil. However, can everyone born in to an economic system be either good or bad?
Even with human or heroin trafficing. Who's to blame? The junky? The trafficker? The investors? The system which rewards the use of slaves? The pressures which cause a junky to escape on a fix? The schools which didn't teach empathy? Perhaps a brain and evolutionary legacy which makes us think that physical accumulation and ego fortification will give our genes a safer chance at surviving.
The law and justice system, telling people what is good and what is safe. This system is often the source of more pain than that which landed people in its hands.
This is life. It's all just a bunch of scared people trying to make themselves, and occasionally others, safe according to what they know and how they feel.
As RealmExplorer brought up, I believe in nonduality. Everything is the same thing.
As for this quote, I should remind that this is an Integral Philosophy forum, and that Ken Wilber, the founder of Integral Philosophy talks alot about heirarchy, and the hollowness of value judgement based on heirarchy. As a nondualist, I answer the second question thusly: Everything is God. Everything has consciousness. Any person or thing you can label as 'evil' is simply an aspect of yourself (ourself) which you deny expression.
All I can do is soothe pain and promote love, I think we can mostly agree on that. But how can we promote love with we don't practice love, even for those who cause pain.
Jeffery Dahmer was in pain his whole life, the only way he found to express it was to kill people and drink alot. Bush drank alot. He may also be at least partially responsible for the 655,000 non-combatant Iraqi folks who've died as a result of the war, and the torture of more people than Sadam ever ordered. And reveling in the killing of al-Zarqawi may be considered evil its self.
"Nazi's killed Communists, does that make them good?" Does that mean you think Communists are evil? Many people think capitalists are evil. However, can everyone born in to an economic system be either good or bad?
Even with human or heroin trafficing. Who's to blame? The junky? The trafficker? The investors? The system which rewards the use of slaves? The pressures which cause a junky to escape on a fix? The schools which didn't teach empathy? Perhaps a brain and evolutionary legacy which makes us think that physical accumulation and ego fortification will give our genes a safer chance at surviving.
The law and justice system, telling people what is good and what is safe. This system is often the source of more pain than that which landed people in its hands.
This is life. It's all just a bunch of scared people trying to make themselves, and occasionally others, safe according to what they know and how they feel.
As RealmExplorer brought up, I believe in nonduality. Everything is the same thing.
Quote"If the universe doesn't have a spectrum then how can it be divided over frequencies? And if the universe didn't care about us then it wouldn't have wasted energy on gifting us with its consciousness."
As for this quote, I should remind that this is an Integral Philosophy forum, and that Ken Wilber, the founder of Integral Philosophy talks alot about heirarchy, and the hollowness of value judgement based on heirarchy. As a nondualist, I answer the second question thusly: Everything is God. Everything has consciousness. Any person or thing you can label as 'evil' is simply an aspect of yourself (ourself) which you deny expression.
All I can do is soothe pain and promote love, I think we can mostly agree on that. But how can we promote love with we don't practice love, even for those who cause pain.