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#1
I'm a bit angry here. Why is that everyone we channel insists on being self-help guide instead of providing us with interesting knowledge? Practical knowledge? I don't care about the other planets we're never going to discover in this life time. Where's the cure for AIDs or cancer that would save hundreds of lives? If it's in the Ashkashic, as all recorded knowledge of the past, present, and future is (and the certainty of a future discovery of cures is an inevitable possibility, and not a matter of "if" it is discovered), it should be accessible! So where is this information?

INSERT: I'm getting the intuitive feeling here that they could tell us, but thatwould be cheating. It still doesn't answer why projectionists and channelers couldn't do this.
#2
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: many things
March 29, 2005, 02:42:29
Quote from: Flannery
QuoteNature is force full, so are my truths and I have made it so that they are best enjoyed and experienced from within a construct. No scientist would do much good without a frame work from where he could examine what he collects, so its all for your own good

Thank you Mustardseed & God.

Some people think (I am saying "some people" but of course you know who I mean..) that we choose a general path before our birth, that there are lessons to be learnt & patati & patata. I am afraid that I have NOT chosen to be single all my life. What the [edit] is going on here?

What if you wrote that into your life? What if the experience of being single and experiences associated with the confusion of being single were intended? Sylvia Brown, a well-respected author, like Robert Bruce, claims that we write it into our charts these experiences we go through.

I wonder why I'm still single and why my social life is so stuck in limbo. The only logical reason is that that one special someone hasn't come by yet, but it still feels like a make-shift answer.

Anyway, Mustard Seed / God, that didn't answer Frank's question. You're speaking in poetic metaphors, which really tells us what we already knew to begin with. Since you are the intellectual God, and all-knowing, you already fathom the legitimacy of Frank's challenge. At least go into some detail about the physical, scientific fundamentals of how the universe was concieved. Science is inspiried through the spiritual,
so why all the games and charades? Why are the world's most intellectually complicated questions unanswerable? Why must we climb
the mountain only to be told that the answers are there but are too good for us to know? Why is it okay to give us information by the most obscure means but it is not okay to give us the information we want when we contact you by direct means and ask for it? If the information
is there in the Askashic, anyone could simply access it and discover the cure for cancer (if not the idea / inspired idea from reviewing the instructions for the cure in the Ashkashic). So why can't this information be directly communicated and provided? Why are we given the shaft?

Are you too good for us, God?

Is there a reason why a few paragraphs on the nature of dark matter cannot be revealed, or perhaps some cryptic clues given to us to ponder over, inspire, and contemplate?

Also, if you are the almighty God, why are you not the fundamentalist bible God? How can you be the God that was written, but is not at present? Why are you a silent God that forsakes us to our own devices? Why are you a helpless God that writes about empowerment through other individuals. Why do you remain the silent God that disappeared after ages of walking on the earth based on those teachings?
#3
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
March 27, 2005, 13:29:13
God, is it possible that you are nothing more than the product of the channeler's imagination. I understand that imagination is the software that allows the two languages of ours and the divine to be translated. We receive insight and our imagination processes it into something we understand. What is the possibility that you, God, are such a product of this translation?
#4
We all assume the mind exists, even though there is no physical proof of its location or its nature. Should I believe that the mind doesn't exist because there is no proof that it does, likewise to how one can't believe in spirit guides for similar reasons?
#5
Welcome to Metaphysics! / re:
March 25, 2005, 13:55:26
Psan, in fact, that entire conversation about 'imagination' came about from me asking such a question. Even when it was all in my imagination, I was saying that it could "just be my imagination". Whether or not it was made up, I still got a very insightful response. And that response changed my perception for the better. In fact, I have a better understanding of how spirit guides can communicate with people, when previously I was looking at it only as halfway idea instead of a full one.

I've read Peterson's treastie, but oddly enough, I don't recall any of those methods. That's where I first learned about inner voices (being connected to spirit guides. Previously, I had grown up with my mom mentioning how they saved her from car accidents).

During inner monologues, I'm always impressed by how wise and articulate my thoughts are. It's my voice, but it is being guided; like a hand that is being guided to draw, write, or feel by another hand.
#6
Welcome to Metaphysics! / Channeling God!!
March 24, 2005, 21:09:49
Quote from: TelosI can field this one, Chaoslogic.

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God? What's your policy on this?

Get over it.

Alright.

haha!  :lol:
#7
Spirit Guides communicate their knowledge to you by telling you what NOT to do when the time arises. Like, DON'T take that road. Or, SAVE your money. Or, DO IT NOW, not later.

Communicative, tangible relationships exist, but in order to experience them, you need to develop those abilities. You sound a lot like where I am right now. Believe me, you are not alone in being confused, or should I say, doubtful about the whole process. If you want to learn more about spirit guides, Sylvia Brown is a very recommended and highly respected mystic.

You will find her to be very level and competent, much like Robert Bruce.

Spirit Guides are not omnipotent beings. Supposedly, they are there to ensure our charts are met and that our contract with God continues on task. The only reasons I would communicate with them would be for insight or confidence.

Since imagination is the bridge between them and us, it's common for messages to be misinterpreted. To compare with an example, imagine the task of translating another language into English using an on-line translator.

Spiritual communications are that foreign language. And it is up to your mental software -- imagination -- to translate it into something understandable. On-line translators are never accurate, and neither is your mind. The problems for both the software and your imagination stem from the programming. In this case, any success with your imagination comes from focus.

Remember, focus keeps your imagination from running wild. Don't waste time telling yourself you have the focus. You'll know if you're a novice like me if, during an exercise, you ask a question and it comes back in gibberish. Like, "Yes, my name is WuuuWahOOOooEEeAAooUUUAhhhEEe. . ." and so forth.

You'll also know if you're making it up if there's no sense of notice or urgency in your heart or chest area. You'll know especially if you can control the conversations (by writing off the answer and putting words into his or her mouth).

But don't worry. This falsification can actually summon something up, even if you believe it's false!

The second element here is intuition. Again, it can be hard to tell what's real and what isn't. You may have had one or more of those experiences where you KNOW something is true. There are signs to look for, but since they are subtle, you need hands-on experience to distinguish them.

The feeling will NOT go away if you try and shake it off. It will come from the heart, or the chest or stomach, and often, there will be a powerful overwhelming feeling about it. It comes in the form of choice usually, and often as a warning. People identify this as their inner voice, intuition, or premonitions. Everyone gets them. You never HAVE to listen to it, but if you don't, there will be hell to pay. The feeling is unmistakable. There is always a powerful urgency to it. "DO IT NOW! THERE'S NOT TIME TO THINK! I IMPLORE YOU TO HEED MY ADVICE!"

Spirit guides are only interested in keeping you from getting your butt into a sling. They're not there to turn you into a wise, all-knowing guru about everything (i.e. intellectual subjects, like space and medicine).

I want to add that the whole bit on imagination came to me a few days ago when I was "imagining" an exercise with an "imaginary" spirit guide. There was a turning point when it felt like another presence took over and from there the conversation became about easing my doubts about spirit guide communications being "just my imagination".

If you ask me, there are many components you can develop that are related. It is the same as in college where you must take many difference courses that are independent, but related.
#8
Welcome to Metaphysics! / re:
March 24, 2005, 20:28:30
Here is your next subject:

God, why does your personality, voice, and insight differ between channelers? How is the absolute truth between mediums absolute if it is inconsistent to another absolute truth, or vaguely related. As an independent, non-religious christian, I am confused by the traditional and modern interpretations of the Messiah, that he is the only way to God and those who do not believe he saved us cannot live in God or enter Heaven. Yet, we are all sons of God who will move on after death. Yet Christ is the Savior? What exactly has Christ "saved" us from, if not from entering heaven if we are already entitled to it? In short, I cannot seem to fathom a connection between fundamental Christian belief that "Christ is the only way" to the more open-minded wisdom that seems to make more sense.
#9
I cannot put this into words, so I will cut/paste something I wrote earlier today. Before writing this, I was reading one of Sylvia Brown's books and having what I can only describe as a monologue or conversation with myself. I done enough research over the last 10 years to know what it means to communicate with your "inner voice".

And I've had many experiences in the forms of infused wisdom and premonitions and "do-this-or-you'll-be-sorry" feelings. Still, I'm an amateur who is impressed and mystified by other people's abilities to talk with their spirit guides. Oh, what I'd give to be able to project and experience the reality of being in a spiritual presence! What I would give to have that walk in the park, as vivid and real as I am sitting here typing away this message. And the same goes for seeing and hearing my spirit guides.

I've been doing an exercise to get in touch with my spirit guides and I was not used to the awesome, powerful presence that seemed to just appear like a storm cloud. I suspect it was a spirit guide. It's new to me. I definitely think I was having a conversation. But the interesting thing is that we were talking about my thoughts of it being "just my imagination".

Please excuse the sudden change of direction in the document. As soon as I started reflecting on our conversation, it was like someone started writing through me. I just closed my eyes to focus on what needed to be said and wrote down what I thought were the best interpretations of those messages. A lot of the words I wrote down seemed like they were intended. When I read back what was written, it made sense.

I've put an asterix where it starts and an asterix where it ends. Also, I should mention that a psychic saw brought up about a past life I had in Africa somewhere. Is my description below just a coincidence or my imagination?

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When I was honest about what I wanted, I was encouraged to use my imagination. I was told to do it now. I imagined myself
in a forest with a featureless presence. The vision looked like faded shadows. Everything about the experience felt artificial,
from the presence to the vision itself. I lost concentration when I asked for a name and the replies were a storm of undiscernable
language. She called herself Lyssa, but I think it was a name I invented for the experience. It was not long before I felt another
presence emerge in my daydream. It was a powerful, masculine presence. It was like an all-prevailing cloud that was blanketing
the artifice.

We had a discussion about imagination, and more specifically, how it related to communicating with him. *You are "just imagining
it, but it is the imagination that is bridging the gap between us. It is the imagination that has created this place, the imagination that puts me here, the imagination that allows you to interpret what I am saying into your own language. It is the imagination that conforms me into an interpretable entity, and it is your imagination that allows me to be here and allows us to be talking. There is no such thing as "just imaginining" in the way you are thinking. It is a half-truth. What is missing in your assumption is the recognition of communication skills. That is to say, the language of hearts you say you do not understand or that you are having such a hard time understanding. If you sit back and listen dan, you can hear me. Now you can hear what I am saying because you know how to listen. And you are beginning to know how. Practice and it will improve over time, as any other skill or ability, namely the martial arts where you achieved unmatchable flexibility compared to those that have spent such a limited ardurous time performing. I am here and I am always here, just like the others. And yes, there are others as well. Temper your ambitions. Try to find the right words to say like you are doing now. Find them. They will be found. In tempermenting your abilities you will become more dexterous with interpreting this imagination. That is how you communicate with your spirit guides.*

Often, I find these Answers interrupting me before I can finish a sentence, often as I am in the preocess of interpreting my own thoughts into words. Without the focus, communication can be impossible. I will add, in fact, that it for this reason has been the reason I have been unable to communicate and have most times ignored anything my run-away imagination could produce.

I felt that the man was black. I sensed that he was bald. It was like he had grown up in West Africa. I sense a strong mortality. Strength. A hunter. He was 30 when he died. Combat. Lions. Protecting his wife. Tall, yellow, grassy plains. Late 30's. A Son. Tribesman. Intelligent, wise. (I am writing these thoughts and words as they come to me. I am aware that there is a coincidence to my -- i see a face, but the details are unclear. I see the shadow of his face. Is he trying to reveal himself to me?
#10
I was Leviiathan a year ago. I stopped coming here when I no longer had internet access.