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It would be helpful if people who keep on about 'those who want their money back' to look at the facts:

All the transactions were fully refundable through the third party, so nobody has to 'be looking for their money'. They can easily get it back themselves; most have already done so.

Doug

I don't know who you are talking about, because to my knowledge no one got his money back. Even when a refund was asked BEFORE Frank's last email to the group.

Most of us have tried to get their money back from PayPal without success.

What little I do know of Frank's current situation I do know that it is not good from a health point of view, and that is an understatement.

I am fully confident that if Frank is able to return to the Internet he will carry on where he left off. In the meantime the best thing everyone can do is to send him as much healing energy as you can.

As always, everyone can feel completely free to contact me about this or any other issue.

Best regards,

Adrian.

Hi Adrian,

Although I am also leaning on the health situation of Frank in all this turmoil, I have difficulties with your position.

Either you KNOW something or you DON'T. Are you just speculating, or basing your affirmation on a logical assumption and/or rumors?

I would like you to clarify this. If you do KNOW then why not tell us precisely what the situation is. I'm not asking about a medical diagnosis or anything personal.

The worse in all of this is that we are left with basic facts which leads us to conclude that this was a scam. In the same token, I myself, for all the reasons you and other have pointed out, can't believe that the man who wrote in the Astral Pulse for all those years could have done something like this.

The little I know about Frank, is from reading his posts. The man is intelligent, to say the least. In reading his sell pitch, he goes a long way to secure people that he his not a con artist and he even explain his motives.

In saying this I'm thinking that he must have come across scam artists in his life and wants to tell people that he is not one.

If he was with those of us who have paid for the Virtual Classroom, caught in this situation, I believe he would be with us trying to find out.

Billion: the Book from Bruce Moen is called AfterLife Knowledge GuideBook - A Manual for The Art of Retrieval and AfterLife Exploration. It comes with a CD set (CD or MP3) with guided exercises and a Live Lecture (DVD) with Bruce. He is a cool guy. Always giving credits to Robert Monroe, and he explains the focus levels very well. He speaks a lot about the Belief Systems, and the AfterLife Zone (Focus 27).
Now, I bought that book but yet I didn't start the exercises coz I used to change from one technique to another (Monroe, Moen, Bruce, Peterson and many others) but about a month ago I decided (thanks to Major Tom) to keep myself focused on one technique: reaching a solid Focus10. Yes, the article is the one you mentioned.
So, right now I'm listening 5 days a week the Wave I - Track 2 of the Gateway Experience from The Monroe Institute. There's something important I wanna tell you: don't give up. If you are tired/bored and you wanna quit, just don't do anything except a few tries when you go to sleep. You have nothing to lose and almost no time invested. The simple act of trying will give you -hopefully- a few spontaneous OBEs. That happened to me and that (the spontaneous one) gives me strength to continue trying. I had just one OBE, but it was so damn incredible, I was so Lucid that still today I can't believe.
If you are stuck (like me sometimes) clear up your mind and continue, keep trying, it WILL happen.
The good thing about having a lower goal is that you can actually FEEL when you are getting closer. That's why I love Major's article, coz it describes a lot of sensations that -now- I can feel.
Did you try a rundown ?

Cheers,
Magic.

You bring an interesting point about the CD. I have the Gateway serie and have used them a while back. The first time with Focus 10, I felt that nothing, absolutly nothing was happening when suddenly I heard myself snore. The other neat experience was with Focus 12. Also on my first listening, when he tells you..."I will take you there!"  I felt this incredible sensation of expansion. Like my consciousness was "expanding". Hard to find the correct words to explain this.

As for the other CD (up to Focus 27) nothing happened...zip nothing!

Although I listened to the CD again and again, I never could have those same experiences, and finaly discarded them.

Some have said, and you also bring this point, that a long term of listening could help you develop the ability to reach Focus 10.

Can someone here share his experience in this regards? I mean the continous listening that brought results after a certain amount of time.

Spreading my wings

I spread my wings
And I soar through the clouds
Ah ! my spirit is free
My imagination limitless

I, a speechless poet
Stumble with the words
Pouring from Soul
A river of compassion

A mighty river stirring beneath
Lifting and carrying me
In search of a desert
A garden to bloom

Ah! The poet !
The beauty of the beholder
Sadness in your eyes
Spread your wings my friends

Hi hotshotrobot,

I agree with what you pointed out in your post. I am also leaning towards Frank's health being the source of all of this situation.

Some things are troublesome though. The ones I mentioned, the home address that HE gave to convince, and which comes out to be nonexistent is one. Another one is the final communication that he made with the members of his class in which he stated that he was giving the members 3 weeks to wait him out or ask for a refund.

This can go both ways. He wanted to be honest and refund those who didn't want to stay after this first delay because of his health problem. Another way to see this could also be that he was giving himself time.

Problem is that some members had already ask for a refund through many emails which Frank never answered. At that time, if he was able to send us an email why didn't he answer theses asking for a refund ?

I can easily comprehend that if after that last message his health tumbled down that he was in a position unable to communicate with the member's class. But why didn't he answer the previous one and make the refunds ?

I also agree that the con artist possibility seems ridiculous, for the same reasons that you, and others, have mentioned.

Every one here who have read Frank's posts respected him for his generosity and for his knowledge in phasing and classic OBE. Then go and read his sell-pitch on his newsletter offer.  Marketing at its best! A con artist couldn't have done a better job.

Fact is that he didn't need to do this to have members of the Astral Pulse join his classroom. We all trusted him. He had the utmost credibility for anyone wanting to learn

As for the money involved, nobody knows the amount. There's the classroom and the Foundation. We can only speculate.

I'm as baffled as everyone. Both conclusion are plausible, and each has an Achilles heel.

As you pointed out, it is hard to understand why he would do this when a lots money would have resulted from his published book.

As for myself, I deeply wish that this is all a misunderstanding, that he will come "back in the Land of the living" as he wrote. That he will explain everything and do what every members of his class wish for....teach!

[Now there's absolutely nothing wrong with this.]

This debate is getting nasty.

To put everything in the right context here is a resume.

Frank build himself a pretty strong reputation here over the years. Helping many in their quest for either phasing and/or OBE. Everyone who as taken the time to read his posts will recognize his great knowledge.

Up to there, he is a generous fellow, helping others.  Then money leaks in.

He figured that since so many wanted that he write a book on the subject, he started. Then why not make a special class and charge money for it.

There's a slippage here. Exchanging with the members of the Astral Pulse, on a free basis, giving some of his time even in exchanging emails with some...to hey! why not make a buck out of this!

Now there's absolutely nothing wrong with this.

So he puts up his newsletter, and if you take the time to read it...what a sell pitch!!!  The best there is in marketing.

He offer private tutorials for a fee. That's still OK, he has every right to be paid for his time.

He even gives out his personal home address to prove that he is a real person not a company. He adds to this the "Frank Keeble Foundation" and ask to those who are willing to make donations.

Now that's two source of money coming in.  

He makes his group for the Virtual Classroom, member pay through PayPal. Then he tells the member that he is sick.

No news for a while. Some ask for a refund then, no reply from Frank. He gives members 3 weeks to either stay or ask for a refund. After 6-7 weeks no more news.

I wish like everybody here that this whole thing is just a misunderstanding. That Frank has health problems which are preventing him from giving any news. I wish that its nothing serious and that he will recover.

Now some facts.  The home address that he gave DOES NOT EXIST. There's one in a nearby town which exist, BUT NO ONE BY THAT NAME LIVES THERE.

As much as I would like to beleive that Frank is an honest fellow, this whole thing smells bad.  And it is LEGITIMATE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

Adrian,

First, I would like to thank you and tell you that I appreciate very much the way you are handling this whole thing.

Because you did not lock this thread even if you are caught into it somewhat.

Your reactions are not negative, but show an openness and a comprehension to those who have paid for Frank's service.

Boy do I wish that all of this is just a misunderstanding !!!

I just received and answer from City Hall of Salernes in France which Frank gave as his personal address. I asked them if there was a street called "Grand Rue" in Salernes.

THERE IS NO SUCH STREET IN SALERNES!!!

.

Hmmm. Interessting. Have you checked if there are several towns called salerenes in France? Have you asked them if a Frank Kepple lives there at all?

Yes Tombo I'm still searching. Additional information from Salernes' City Hall is that there is a street called "Grand Rue" in a nearby town called SILLANS-LA-CASCADE, with the same zip code. I am unable to have more information at the present time.

Could it be that Frank has mistaken his town with the nearby Salernes...I don't know.

I just gotten this information and giving it out to be honest about this whole thing.

All of this discussion is getting way away from the original debate.

The question was and still is:  

1)   Is Frank honest and in such a bad health that he cannot, nor any of his friends and/or partner inform the members who paid for his Virtual Classroom.

2)   Is Frank a con artist.

It is not about phasing, E-book etc...

I read all the posts here about this and in the meanwhile I did a little investigation.

I just received and answer from City Hall of Salernes in France which Frank gave as his personal address. I asked them if there was a street called "Grand Rue" in Salernes.

THERE IS NO SUCH STREET IN SALERNES!!!

Now if ever Frank comes back, he better have good answers. As far as I am concerned this is becoming more and more the work of a con artist.

Another point is that if you subscribe to his newsletter, with the information on that thread here at the Astral Pulse, you will find that it is still working and sending automatic replies. He stated himself that he wasn't very good in building all of this. This is why he got a partner to set his business up with the payments etc..

Weird that now he is maybe sick and the only one that could reply.

One member of this classroom is supposedly to have sent a new computer to Frank. If that person exist, could she/he tell us if Frank has a valid address.

I wish someone could prove I'm wrong, but I'm beginning to doubt it. I would like Adrian and the other responsable for this site to explain to me why they permitted a personal business to be build on the Astral Pulse without making the necessary investigation to protect their members who considered this site as the most credible on the net.

I'm little surprised that non of the moderators knows something specific. I really thought some know him on a personal basis.

I'm also surprised.  Because the moderators accepted Frank to publicized his business here, with obviously no means to reach him.

I started this thread, mainly to try to get answers. I thought that Frank could have close friends on this site after being here for so many years.

I have decided to let this whole thing down. If all of this is caused by Frank's bad health, then I will wait it out and hopefully he will "be back in the land of the living" as he used to say.

In the remote eventuality that this was a scam, then so be it, I'm letting go.

Best of wishes to everyone.

I agree with you Tombo.

The only difficult part is how come he or his partner couldn't inform us.  

Runlola,

You seem to look at all of this only through the money involved. The majority of the posts consider that Frank could be having problem with his health. And everyone would be patient if we knew that.

Now Frank is a very intelligent man. Reading many of is posts here, everybody will agree.

Now, he started a "business" with his newsletter and Virtual Classroom and we all trusted him for the above reasons, and for his solid reputation here for the last 5 years or so.

He build his business with a partner, he said so himself, because he wasn't very good in the money aspect (PayPall etc.).

Up to here, nobody was impatient. He kept us informed regularly. His computer broke down, a member gave him a new one and sent it from the USA. He then forgot about the electrical differences between an American machine versus Europe, and caused problems with this new computer. Etc...

Even if all of this took a long time to put together, everyone on the Virtual Classroom list was patient and waiting. No problem.

Last email, he said that he was giving 3 weeks to members to decide if they stayed or wanted a refund. It's been 6 weeks now, and since then no news.

The question of credibility arrose when some asked for a refund, BEFORE that last email...but they never got a reply.

Although everybody respect Frank, we are legitimate to wonder what's going on.

"Runlola"

Do you know anything about Frank's health condition?

And one thing you shouldn't forget. Frank had a partner in building this up. Why doesn't this partner send us an email.  

He did send an email to the member of his Classroom saying that he was having problem with his health. He also said that he was giving members three weeks to either stay or ask for a refund. That was 6 weeks ago.

Everyone that subscribed to Frank's Classroom trusted him. And I think everyone would be more than happy to wait this out if he is genuinely sick.

Isn't it normal after all this time to ask what's happening?

The only explanation, if Frank is honest, would be that his physical condition makes him unable even to send an email. But no one seem able to give us any information in regards to this

His web site address is working fine and the automated replies are sent normally and rapidly. But this is an automated response system.

But members here should be informed that Frank is either very sick, OR this was a scam.

So be careful and wait if you are interested in his newsletter offer and/or in subscribing to his Virtual Classroom. Members have been asking for a refund for many weeks, some for months and they never got any answers to their requests.

I'm one of a group that have subscribed to Frank's virtual classroom.

Last time we heard about him was around 5 weeks ago. He mentioned then that he would give the group member 3 weeks to decide whether they wanted to stay or leave the group and have a refund.

I sincerely hope that he is not so sick as to be unable to send just one email.

Does anyone here have more information?

I don't believe that he is untrustworthy.  But it would be a good time to give some explanation.

OK,
Here's what I do. First I write a definite "intent" on a piece of paper. This is where I want to go or what I wish to accomplish. I feel that this notifies my subconscious. I then get barefoot with both feet flat on the floor, feet close together. I place my hands palms down in my lap, usually one on each thigh..I may or may not listen to Hemi- or Holo-Sync. I relax and concentrate on the darkness behind my eyes and keeping my breathing at a slow steady pace. I feel as though I am waiting....expecting to soon see the colors that begin to swirl into the darkness behind my eyes.
At the same time I "feel" my third eye and crown chakra become active, or opening. This stage usually begins after about 20 minutes when the natural chemical reactions to the darkness begin ( much like going to sleep).
Once the colors Begin to swirl, (violet,dark blue, white and gold) it is not long before a tunnel forms. I then begin to move my consciousness into and through this tunnel to arrive at my intended purpose or destination. Often, if I have requested a guide, this is when I will meet my guide.
Upon returning to my body I will feel the "vibrations" others speak of when they exit, but I do not experience them upon my exit. I do have a "body" there and can even change my clothing with a "thought" in an instant. I can communicate with others and have all of my senses, plus the ability to fly and the ability to focus my vision on a distant scene and bring it into a magnified focus (as if it were right in front of me).  I have the ability to speak with those who have passed over in death, see and touch them too.

I have experienced many interesting and creative adventures using the
above method.
Donna

I'm trying to put all the information here in a comprehensive way for me. Read on the different topics about "Focus", phasing, 3D blackness, listening to different CD...

I'm beginning to have a good idea on the process somewhat.

Could Donna, or any other here put together the basic and the means of getting to the 3D blackness.  I'm thinking of putting the body in the correct state to get to Focus 10 Mind-awake/body-asleep. Just practice with the CD?  Use relaxation techniques for the body?  Raise energy?

There's mixed messages depending on which posts you read.

Donna here seems to just close her eyes, look at the blackness in front of here and eventually "get there".

I've read the post of Major Tom (Focus 10); a few posts of Frank (the mental rundown for one).

What are the prerequisites?

I've been going all around the site trying to get information regarding phasing, reaching the 3D blackness etc.  I read many threads, but there's so many its hard to get to basic information.

Is there a post and/or thread, or a book only on the how-to? Or do I have to resign myself a go through all the hundred or more (?) threads and posts, containing numerous variable on how to achieve phasing.

Help!