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Check out the permanent astral topics, there are a few good threads in there dealing with phasing.  Definately do a search though because there are a lot of really informative threads on phasing that haven't been made permanent yet.

Danny

This sounds very much like phasing.  Do a search on phasing, there are a lot of threads packed with information on it.

Danny

[Andali]

Aren't Andali and Shzarnie the same person?  In which case she was off topic in her own thread?  Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.  In the course of discussion, other questions were discovered.  I guess that's the nature of discussion.

Also, your soup posts (redcatherine) totally confused me.

Danny

Danny - Funny you ask...
                       
                   Just the other night I did run into some people down there and they where actually pretty friendly.  Long story short.  They asked me where I was from and I said "America".  They shook there heads and said "ahhh Germany".  I said  "What do you mean Ahhh Germany".  No one would answer so I asked if something was going to happen.   One girl spoke up and said "we will know by July".  Now I don't know if this has anything to do with our reality and I am not making any predictions, but I thought it was odd that they would know our country's and our calendar system.  So I guess we will know by July if they knew what they were talking about...

I find that so fascinating.  You were under water right, so were they swimming or in some kind of bubble city?  Or other...?

Danny

I'm a big fan of Point Zero or PZ.  I think Origin conjures up for me the same as "Source" would, more of a spiritual term for the center of the universe, god, etc.

Danny

You spoke of a void.  I have been in two different kind of voids.  One is complete darkness with what appear to be tiny lights floating for what seems to be forever.  Upon touching any of the tiny lights I get sucked in to that reality.

This sounds like it's probably the 3D blackness mentioned in phasing techniques.

The second void which I thought was the same as the first was actually cold.  If it hadn't been for the cold it would have appeared to be the same as the first.  After exploring this I found that it was an ocean or some kind of large water body.  Swim time to the surface is usually a few minutes.  There are creatures in the water that try to keep me from reaching the top, but they seem protective rather than hostile.

                I seem to have a lot of water experiences including some that are more like concrete pools and it seems the people are trying to keep me in the pool along with a lot of other people.    Strange.......

I find these water/ocean experiences interesting.  Have you come across anyone you can talk to and ask questions in these situations?

Danny

It appears that getting up before I need to get up and staying awake for a short bit, along with setting my intention, are really helping me to begin having these experiences.

Thanks for the tips.  Cool experiences too!  More fuel for my fire.

Danny

Actually there is science that's picking up speed dealing with 'Zero Point Energy' and 'Over-Unity' devices that basically involves pulling energy from the consciousness field around us for use in practical applications (do a google search).  I guess it's possible that there is a relationship between this zero-point field and our Pzero.

Just some random info that popped in my head.

Danny

I like Pzero however we end up typing it.  Not that it really matters if I like it or not, but I like it.

Plus, like Andali27 said, being the result of group effort makes it that much cooler.

Danny

As someone with no hands on experience the kaleidoscope analogy really helps me grasp the idea of changing focus levels.

Danny

I'm just learning phasing so maybe I shouldn't be suggesting anything but if you can go anywhere from the 3D blackness, including F1 (physical), should the 3D blackness be called F0 (F-zero)?

Just a suggestion from someone who really isn't qualified to give one yet.

Danny

P.S.  WHAT IS F3???

F3 in my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong) is where all of the afterlife belief constructs are.  That is the focus people go to when they die and whatever they believed they would find (in terms of heaven/hell, etc.) is exactly what they find.

Danny

Just curious, because I heard military complexes mentioned, has anyone ever gone to Dulce (or any other underground installations) while out of body?

Danny

Danny:

Done right it shouldn't take you more than about 45 minutes. Individuals vary, of course, but I think trying for a continuous period of more than 45 minutes would start to become self-defeating. Half an hour every day is far better than a marathon 3.5 hour session one day a week.

Some people suggest that this kind of thing is best done at the same time every day, as your body learns to anticipate it and so forth. But in doing that you just end up curve-fitting yourself into a mental box. There's no sense in only being able to do it under some particularly exacting conditions. You want to create a degree of flexibility for yourself.

Generally you will find it easier if the physical is relaxed to start with. The relaxed and slightly dreamy state that comes about after coming awake from a number of hours of sleep is a good state to try in.  

It generally takes me 15 to 30 minutes. Sometimes it can take up to an hour. But if I'm relaxed and in just the right mental frame of mind the switch to F2 from F1 can take just a few minutes.

Yours,
Frank

I agree, I don't want to do it at the same time every day.  Even if it takes me longer initially I want the end result to be that I can do it anywhere/anytime.  Obviously that will take a lot of practice but I really want to do it right.  

My main obstacle is that I'm chronically tired due to some energy/neg related stuff I've been dealing with my whole life, that I just in the last couple of months really understood the scope of what was happening.  With the help of a woman who does energy work I've pretty much taken care of it; I'm mostly just working on recovery now.  

Once I've recovered fully this won't be a problem, but at the present I just want to sleep all the time and that's exactly what tends to happen when I practice phasing.  I'm working through it though and like I said pretty soon it won't be a problem anymore.

Thanks for the info,
Danny  

Thanks for the welcomes.

Already this forum is helping me immensely.

Danny

mactombs:

So it takes you an hour.  Thanks, that gives me a better idea what to expect.  How long have you been practicing?  Does it seen to happen faster as you practice more?  For instance, how long did it take you when you first started versus now?

Thanks,
Danny

Thought it would be polite to introduce myself so here goes.  My name is Danny (obviously), 26 yrs old, and I live in the pacific northwest (Washington).  I haven't projected yet but I'm currently learning phasing, just beginning to.

Any questions just ask.

Danny

I am just learning phasing so the information in this thread is immensely helpful to me.  I know the answer to this question is going to be different for everyone but that's ok because I'm only looking for a general estimate.  

About how long does it take from the time you start visualizing your rundown until you make the switch?  Now I know this can be influenced by a multitude of factors, and I guess I'm wondering how long it should take a beginner.  Generally, should it be more like ten minutes or an hour?

Thanks,
Danny

Thanks for the link.  Worked great.  Somebody should consider updating the permanent astral topic I mentioned above.

Thanks again,
Danny

I was reading the topic "Free Holosync® alternative available for download" in the Permanent Astral Topics section and I want to download the mp3 but when I copy the link into a browser I just get redirected to the Astral Pulse main page.  Is the file still on the server?  I would really like to try it out.

Thanks,
Danny

You've inspired me.  I've just started trying to learn phasing so I'll have to try this tonight.  Sounds awesome!

Thanks,
Danny

I'm very interested in both your coming book and your newsletter.  I'll watch for them to come about.  Thanks for the info.

Danny

I just realized there is a post like two down from this one titled "phasing- ap question" that is very helpful and probably gives me enough to go on so I apologize for wasting a post.

Danny

I've been reading a lot about phasing, such as the "What is Phasing and how can I do it?" post in the Astral FAQ.  I feel that this method (if you can call it a method) resonates with my perceptions of the our existence so I've decided that this is the direction I want to take in my attempts at learning to OBE.

So my question is this: Does anyone have any tidbits of advice or anything that might help someone who is just learning phasing and has not yet had a conscious OBE?  Is there something you learned along the way that would have been really helpful had you known it when you were just starting?  I am really excited to learn this and of course want to avoid as many roadblocks as possible.

Thanks,
Danny

Thanks for the suggestions.  I think I am going to start trying to project at different times during the day (during the week it will have to be after work of course) and see if I start to get somewhere.

Danny