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Hi,

Ive had a couple of OBEs in the past where I have exited my body fine and I had fairly good vision.  However recently I have been getting the vibrations then I get the feeling as if I am leaving my body but I have no vision.  I then try to open my eyes and end up opening my physical eyes and Im back in my body again.

Is there any way to remedy this problem?

The reason why you might of not remembered it is because you have bad dream recall or you haven?t experienced anything that would be labelled as important after waking. The other reason might be because you might of drank lots of alcohol with MJ this causing memory loss. I can't remember it phenomena.

Well, I think I have good dream recall- on average 3 dreams a night.  I didnt ever really drink alchohol while smoking MJ- so thats not a factor.

Maybe its different for different people hey?

Theres not much more I can say, you probably will have to overcome the fear before you make a successful projection otherwise you will snap back into your body.  

Maybe you could try Frank's Phasing model as an alternative way to achieve these experiences?

Remember the scene in The Matrix where Morpheus is training Neo in the Matrix the first time? You couldnt go through the window for the same reason that Neo didnt make the jump across the buildings. Dont think you can; KNOW you can.

The Matrix makes so much more sense after you learn about OBEs

edit: There is also a "magnet effect" when you first start going OBE, or so i hear. Next time you make it out, try to get as far away from your body as possible(10-15 ft. should do), then open your eyes, start looking around, etc..

Yeah I know the scene in the Matrix   I suppose I must have thought about going through the window too much.

Next OBE im gonna just get as far away as I can, though Im finding it very difficult to move, any suggestions?

Hi all,

tonight I had a dream and half awoke from it. I told myself to go back into the dream scenery and have an LD, but I guess I was a little too awake for that, lingering somewhere in between. However, I started having some exit sensations, floating, vibration  and fear again. I felt like I was surrounded by electrical field, it was quite unpleasant, in fact, made me somewhat dizzy.

Has anybody felt it?

I went back to sleep, no OBE again... Woke up in the morning and new that something strange had happened at night, just could not remember until I read somebodies post here abt LD and then I remembered everything  

Yes I have felt it, these are the exit sensations you feel prior to an OBE, try not to fear them as they wont harm you- just go with it and you should kind of float out of your body.

I had my second OBE last night.  It all began with a dream, as soon as I went lucid I began feeling the exit sensations and exited my body and came out beside my bed.

I looked at my hands and they appeared see-through. Fully consious of what was going on- I put my hand through a wall, feeling a slight pressure- the wall gave way and my hand pushed through, i pulled it back.  I then tried to go out of my window (which was closed with curtains drawn), I felt as if I couldnt move myself- I could only stretch my hands out. No matter what I did I couldnt go out this window.

When I made yet another attempt to exit the window I began falling down through my house very fast and ended up in a small enclosed room that was very well lit up (this room was not in my house but at the time I wasnt fully aware of this).  I tried to exit through the wall of this room but then everything changed and I got a third person view of me travelling to the moon.  Then I woke up feeling energised and tingly like my last OBE left me feeling.

Can anyone explain as to why I couldnt exit the window? and what happened after I fell through my house?

Thanks

Their is always pot. Used by the ancients. If it was bad for you the ancients wont be smoking it. Once again find it's legal status in your country. Some people might argue about it but I don't care.

Do you find that pot actually helps OBEs, dreams etc? I have smoked a lot of pot in my time (since given up) but I can say that I never rememeber any dreams while on it, let alone an OBE!

A few questions for Frank.

Ive been reading a lot lately about phasing, and I am slightly confused, please could you clarify:

1.  Can phasing be thought of the same thing as OBE or astral projection? It seems to me (from what I have read) that phasing is all concentrated within the imagination of the mind, whereas OBEs are actual 'coming out of your body' experiences (accompanied by exit effects and such).

2. From what I understand from the technique you lie in bed, close your eyes and try to picture a mental scene with you're minds eye, then incorporate your senses until you are actually in the scenario in 1st person? So at this point do you fly out of your body lying on the bed and go to where this scene is being created?

3.  I have tried phasing but I can just 'think' of the scenario rather than create it and actually 'see' it. Then all I seem to do is end up falling asleep and dreaming, granted I remember the dream but im not 'lucid' so to speak. When phasing does one have full consiousness as in the physical?

4.  As a beginner, I have had one OBE that I didnt really intend to do (i didnt induce the vibrations but I did the rest).  That was about 2 weeks ago- where would you recommend I go from here? Not bother with trying to get vibrations and such and concentrate on phasing as a way to go 'out of body'?

Many thanks

Hi all,

Just curious, I rarely watch TV, don't read newspapers. Try to keep my thought pure and simple.

As I turn in for the night, lying in the bed, my eyes are open staring into
the darkness. My body very relaxed after about 10 minutes or so, I start
to see animated pictures, some seem to be in color, especially the colors
red and blue. Its like I'm watching programs or bits of a movie, or better
yet like watching a playback from a video camera. People and places I've
never seen or been before.

I close my eyes and open them again, the picture disappears only to have another one appear. Does anyone have any idea what might be happening?

I have been having this same thing happen to me for the last year or so.  Like you- as I drift off to sleep its like I am watching TV with full color and sound- though I only notice after a while whats going on. I realise that Im dreaming/hallucinating and wake up to find that my TV is turned off.

I sometimes also get the feeling as if Im reading a book- I cant see the book though its as If I can hear someone is reading a book to me.

Well, there has only been one time when I deliberately re-entered my body.  

But I do have a good memory and when I am having an OBE, I tend to think to myself, "how on earth could I possibly forget this?" - that's how 'aware' I am.  

Trouble is, if you heard/read that you won't remember, and you believe it, you won't remember, lol!

It depends on your level of consciousness or awareness when you are out of body.  And the nice thing about it all?  If you don't remember any of it, what does it matter?  You will claim nothing happened.  

I've often been puzzled by people saying that they screwed up their first projection because they couldn't remember it - huh?  How does that work then?  

Simply go with the flow and a secret tip just for you - (when you are napping and you wake up, drift back to sleep, and if you wake up again, make yourself drift back again, and so on, and if you wake up again, force yourself back to the land of nod - you'll be amazed at what happens... oh, and don't tell everyone!)  

Sarah

Well in my OBE I wasn't that aware, certainly not like normal waking consciousness. Maybe in subsequent projections ill have a little more clarity.

You've got me thinking about that memory thing now! Ive never really thought of it like that- so I could have had loads of OBEs and just forgotten them!   lol

Oh, and thanks for the 'secret' tip Sarah, don't worry I'm good at keeping secrets- I wont let anyone know!   hehe

Edd

Thanks Sarah,

In my next OBE I'm going to try and stay out for longer and maybe pass threw a few walls!  Is it not necessary then for you to go back to your body? I heard/read that you wont remember anything if you don't go back on your own.

Just to let you know, I had my first successful OBE yesterday    

I once again had a nap in the daytime, this time with the intention to OBE.  I was having a dream and at somepoint slipped into a more conscious state, I thought to myself I would remember I was dreaming as I feel asleep. Well, i fell back asleep into the same dream and became lucid.  Immediately I began feeling the vibrations, I went with the flow and felt the top half of my body projecting- I then sort of flew to the other side of my room- stayed there for a bit- saw my body and then purposefully went back into my body then woke up!

I wanted to keep the OBE short as recommended in Astral Dynamics as to ensure I remembered it, and I'm pleased to say it worked!  

yhickfoe,

where to start in A-Dynamics is up to you but abilities on concentrating the mind and stimulating the Energetic body (through NEW system) seem to be prerequistes for achieving consistant AP. so start with NEW and practice this as well as Projection techniques described later.

i have an AD workbook (nice accompanyment to Astral Dynamics) that i will ask if i am able to give to Astral pulse readers. problem is it is written by Brian A. Mercer co author of "Mastering AP" and i suspect forms the basis of M-AP, (though i haven't read it) so there may be issues with giving this away. but i will ask. Check the forum soon for reply

Thank you Dean for the advice, its much appreciated.  I'm going to give the NEW system a shot and see how it goes for a bit.  This AD workbook that you mention sounds like just what I'm looking for, so I hope you're able to give it away  

yhickfoe-

Falling asleep and projecting has got to be the easiest method of the lot that requires near 0% effort, but it's a bit hit and miss. If you want it to happen again you could try steering your mind in the direction of AP as you fall asleep. Think about it (AP), about what happened before, what those sways and vibes were like, what it felt like 'physically' and emotionally. You are trying to imprint it in your mind so it comes with you as you inevitably give in to sleep. As you fall asleep hopefully you will retain more consciousness than normal and notice these things occur again as you start to dream or shortly after. Go with it, rather than fight it. Nothing is going to harm you.

Thanks for the advice Stephen . Also- I have purchased Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce, do you know anything about this book? There is an awful lot of information in there and i don't know where to start, any advice would be most welcome.

Or perhaps I would be better off just trying to recreate the scenario which happened to me (feeling the vibes etc)?

is no one able to help me with this?  

Great!  

So do I just go to sleep and 'hope' that its going to happen again, because I didn't try and induce these vibrations.  Also- how long do they last and what happens after?

Whilst sleeping today i experienced the strangest thing that genuinely scared me. I was having a dream that felt very strange, it wasn't visual at all- I could just see black.  In the dream I thought I was driving with my eyes closed very fast down a straight road- I started to think in the dream- "how can I drive with my eyes closed whereas some people struggle with the regular way?"

Straight after I was thinking this, i felt my body kind of swaying slightly to one side- I thought I was veering off the road and was going to crash.  Then the swaying turned into a all over shaking feeling that quickly got very violent and I felt as if I was having a violent seizure.  At that point I was getting scared and forced myself to wake up.The feeling stopped almost as soon as I woke up. Is this the start of an AP? The vibrations?

I have tried to AP before on and off for about a year- not serious practice though, I probably only tried 3 or so times with no success and no vibrations at all.  Ive never experienced anything like this before.