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Congrats! It seems the first few times are always short lived. But, a learning experience it was indeed. Sounds interesting.

Funny, I was just thinking about the old web design team over at EC, and wondered whatever happened to you. Got bored, came to this forum, read this post without reading who posted it, then saw your signature. Fascinating really.

Anyways, congratulations on your first (?) OBE, or at least the first you can remember.

No, because the thought balls are not sent within our physical universe, according to Monroe.

In my opinion this isn't possible on a physical level -- but I do believe that the astral body can receive this type of communication from other astral bodies...

NVC... or receiving "ROTE - Related Organized Thought Energy". Big part of the Monroe series.

Hey Mitch... told you I was not the only one. Welcome.

Last night I decided to just relax before bed and do a bit of mental projection.  I didn't get very far and passed out.  I had a series of very very very intense and real lucid dreams, but one sticks out and makes me wonder just why this life is so solid compared to all the things I have experienced while phased, and why I don't have one of those lives as my main life.

I awoke.  I reached for the light switch, it flipped up and down but didn't work.  I rolled over and looked around.  I was laying on a mattress in a living room of a house I have never seen.  I looked to my right and a very short woman who I knew was named Belle was laying next to me.  She moved slightly and looked over at me, wondering why I had awoken so suddenly.  I told her I was having this strange dream about living in the house I do now and having the job I do now and how strange it all had been.  She nodded and put her head back down and I put my arm over her and said "Belle... you complete me." and lowered myself completely back to the mattress.  I contemplated the 'dream' I had had, how it seemed to last for so many years and it all seemed so strange.  I was convinced I had finally woke up in the life I had been living for all this time and hadn't realized it.  The thought of my life now being more than a dream wasn't anywhere in my mind.

That's the part that scares me the most.  It wasn't that I was convinced it was real, it WAS.  Its like when you are dreaming and wake up, how you feel then, you KNOW you are awake and that you are in the main life you focus on and everything is solid and normal.  What life was this?  Have I finally lost it?  Am I reaching into the parts of the consciousness continuum that Monroe did when he would live another life in "Journeys out of the body"?  I am glad the memory of this is fading because its something I want to forget, something that is so haunting, so surreal, that I would rather not experience it again.

That's very interesting. After reading the Monroe series, particularly the second book. I became a strong believer that so much goes on at night when we dream that we don't remember in the morning... And probably never will. I'm talking years an years of stuff.

And it's strange because sometimes I wake up and get this very strange feeling. It's almost like when you realize your lucid, you stop for a second and think "Wow... this has been a dream this whole time". But pertaining to life... Very hard to explain.

I don't think as humans we will ever have the answers.

I had one dream about war long ago, problem is I have terrible dream recall so the only thing I can remember is some blurry images... No emotions or anything like that.

So I am planning to project in order to experience war. One of my main problems is because war is such a scary thought my ability to project has gotten worse seeming as I know when I project I am going to experience war. This shouldn't take long to overcome as last night I was almost able to get around it.

The other thing I am worried about is the difficulty it takes to activate strong emotions while in a an astral experience, I haven't quite gotten used to this yet so I might need more experience with projecting before I can experience war in it's full potential.

So for some reason I seem to be interested with war. I have studied all aspects of major wars, the causes, effects, leaders, soldiers, routines, weapons, fortifications... Everything.

I have always wanted to know what it would be like to be in a trench warfare battle. I understand it would most likely be a very scary and terrible experience but it's something I want to do so I can understand war, after spending all these years studying it.

I was wondering if anyone had an astral experience involving war?

There is one thing I always like to say to people that throw scientific facts at me: According to the laws of science and time, it's impossible for us to exist.

I think it was the time, 4:00 in the mourning is late. With a lack of sleep you may encounter things like this. I notice that when I loose sleep strange things happen, even scary things.

It's all in your head, nothing is going to hurt you.

Alright I am currently reading Far Journeys and I am extremely confused with all these levels. I understand that they are different levels of consciousness but I am yet to run into a good explanation of them and feel I don't want to continue reading until I can understand.

The explanation on page 53 of the seven circles and 49 levels just confused me even more.

This has nothing to do with astral projection, some parts relate to seeing the future others just weird things going on with my mind.

Almost every night for the past couple of weeks I have been getting weird emotions and feelings. I will be depressed when I have nothing to be sad about. I will be REALLY bored even when watching an exciting movie. I keep getting these scary emotions of my girlfriend breaking my heart when our relationship gets better and better each and every day.

I am also getting strange cold and hot flashes, and randomly get either extremely excited or feel like my life is falling apart. For no reason at all.

I don't do drugs, I don't drink and I seem to be in good physical health. I was wondering if anyone had any insight towards my problem.

I already mentioned that I was going to buy his book upon release.

I was randomly in a deep trail of thought trying to review my recent phasing attempts. While doing so I remembered an experience I had about four years ago.

I was falling asleep, like any other night. I don;t know if this will make any sense at all but I was about 75% asleep. As I spend about 7-10 hours a day on the computer all I could see in my mind was a chat room and I was talking with someone. I had no idea that I was in a different state of consciousness. I had no knowledge of phasing, astral projection lucid dreams or anything of the sort. Suddenly I realized "Hey, aren't I lying in my bed?" but I was still focusing on the chat room as I was not completely conscious. I decided to experiment a little and typed something in the input box, I could not see or feel my arms or fingers moving to type. At that point I heard the same "door stopper" noise I have recently been hearing.

Not very important, I just thought it was cool that I had done something like that and discarded it. Now I know what the experience was

I have ordered the last 2 books as I am a new fan of phasing. I have been trying to project for over a year with no success and I am making quick progress with phasing.

I decided to go with the Monroe books, they are in the mail

Thanks again Frank.

So does this mean I am making progress or I have a problem?

I am currently looking for a book to read relating to astral projection. I will be sure to buy Frank's book the day of it's release but in the meantime I am shopping around and looking for the best of the best.

I would like to buy a book that stays away from the spiritual side of the astral world as it only confuses me.

If anyone has any ideas as to what book is the best read please let me know.

I did some study on the New Jersey Devil. It was said that this thing was a horse like creature, locals reported hearing these obscene screams coming from the woods.

Alright so I was playing around with phasing. I made some good progress as I was able to view some clear images. However excitement took the best of me and I lost the images after a few seconds.

While I was phasing I became side tracked and eventually fell into a dream state. Now I have BIG PROBLEMS remembering any form of dream so I will try and explain this to the best of my ability.

In this dream state I was sitting on a bed, I was not lucid but I remember trying to explain phasing to someone. Suddenly I heard a very strange noise:

If anyone knows what these are they might understand.


These are springs that go behind your door so the door does not hit the wall and scuff up the paint when opened. I don't know if anyone has ever taken one of these while mounted and flicked them but that was sort of the noise I heard. I know for sure the noise took place inside of my head however it was very loud and clear. I could hear vibrations almost.

I was immediately awakened, paralyzed for a couple of seconds, maybe less. I was then extremely relaxed and in a sort of trance. However excitement got the best of me once again.

Anyone have any clue as to why this happened?

Thanks a lot for taking the time to help Frank. It's kind of a relief. Because all the spiritual talk on other astral projection forums made me confused.

I am making slow progress with phasing but much faster then the progress I was making with APing.

So once again thanks for the help and thanks for all your writings on the subject. They are helping me greatly

I have been trying to astral project for about a year now with no success, I have been reading about phasing however and I am left confused.

When you astral project you are taken to the spiritual planes, where you can explore and blah blah blah.

I read a post on the astral pulse island which explained you can get there through phasing, but the island is in the spiritual planes?


So phasing and astral projection both lead to the spiritual plains? And if they do how so?