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Hallo to all
First off I commend everyone who continues to participate. Secondly to
Bacterio, no it is not a koala. Please try again.

CFTraveler
Well done on phasing to API. To my knowledge you are the first person to visit API (other than in meditation) for quite some time. My image is also neither an apple nor a table. Remember that there Is an animal prevalent in the image.

To all a subtle clue. This clue will probably Not help But I do find it VERY coincidental that the artist of the picture that I selected as my image passed away about a week ago. Strange indeed! 

Regards 
Grey

It's not a subtle clue!!!...I suposse who is...R.J.D

I finally 'actually' phased there.  Don't know if what I saw there was what was placed there, but I'll recount anyway:
I got up early with a backache, sat on my recliner.  My first idea was for a short nap before wakey time, and then I remembered the API experiment.  I tried to imagine what the beach looked like, and tried to recreate the feeling of seeing the pyramid in the distance as I walked amongst the palm trees on the waterfront.  After a while of this, I began to 'see' the environment.  I was there, walking (not floating or 'being') and I could feel my feet touching the sand and my body feeling the breeze.  I could see the pyramid in the distance.
Suddenly there was a fresh, green apple on my hand.  This startled me awake, and I started to go back in, and all of a sudden I was on this beach with palm trees around, sitting on a colorful table, and I startled again, and saw it was time to get up, and then I did, and it was the end of that.

So, either apple or table- with colorful covers.

Mine is not an apple nor a table. Today I concentrated on it again and I resized it to make it bigger.

Bacterio, I did what you suggested, I walked on the beach, touched a palmtree and what did I see in the sand? A tv...
So is that you image? 

Sorry, it isn't a TV. I will make it bigger today.

Greetings Everyone 

Timandra
No, it is not a cheetah.
You may want to try to view Bacterio's image for a day or two if you are running into problems viewing my image. Switching from one object to another can keep this experiment fresh and interesting.

CF Traveler
No, it is not a brown bear. Nice try.

Chris J.
You have the come the closest so far to identifying the animal in my image. You are Close but it is not a monkey. Please try again.

Regards 
Grey

Hi Grey. Is it a Koala? I saw an animal hunging in a tree and it was much like a Koala but it could be a sloth.

Hi. I've seen a Koala bear (hunging in tree).

if it resonates with your experiences take it, if it doesn't, discard it until it may.

good and short advice.

Good to hear, I will keep trying.


Hmm, you make it difficult, now I don't know if the baby or the cage was correct...
And get well soon!

In my opinion it looks like you can perceive what is there, but is the interpretation your mind does what is not accurate...I think you are good at this, keep trying!!!

I am in bed with flu so I am not traveling to API 

Mine is not an animal...I don't want to give more clues because the less information the less you guess...

Timandra, you are always near.

I think it is a just a recurrent dream. I am not an expert, but I can recommend you a book about working with dreams. It is "Creative Dreaming" by Patricia Garfield. If you buy it second hand buy the 1995 edition which is revised.  Dreams are a way of our subconscious mind to comunicate and they can be a powerfull tool for self development. I am not working with dreams now, but if had a recurrent dream I would do it as a priority...maybe you are loosing an important message thinking you have "troubles in the astral". There are no troubles in astral...there are troubles with ourselves.

Yesterday in a holotropic breathing session I reached a kind of starfield...it was full of white dots, and I was there for a long time but couldn't do anything else...just looking...it was anoying.

Bacterio
Are you also selecting an image to use for the experiment ? If so that would be good as 2 possibilities are better than just one.
I like your suggestions about the look, sound and feel of API. I will try to keep them in mind when attempting to go there OOB in the coming days.

Yep...I placed it tuesday night. There is a link above to download a rar file with the picture. It's only in API. I hope it works.

There is no fourth dimension, simply. Mathematical dimensions are only a method of measurement, so you can create as many as you want, but you can't live in one. Physical reality doesn't work that way.

So when people see a 'dimension', it's not an objective thing. They're just seeing something they haven't seen before

I don't agree mathematical dimensions are only a method  of measurement.

Bacterio: If there is a mathematical model that explains dimensions and that could help us all better understand your point, I'd be more than open to hear about it.  I'm no math engineer but I've got a fair IQ!   I also don't see why "one of us" (whatever that means...) would ask to get you banned... unless of course, it's brought up in a closeminded, unrespectful manner, which would be immensly surprising to me!


Cheers! 

There isn't a "mathematical model" to explain dimensions...mathematics works around and with infinite dimensions and physics too (as long as they use mathematical models!). Actually you will not find answers in maths but in philosophy working with the implications of them. Until the 18th century it was no sense talking about more than 3 dimensions in mathematics (euclidean spaces), but now think how working with "n" dimension have changed the world

Only to define what a dimension can be I would need 3 pages. To start, physical space is not the same as mathematical espace. For physics and scientist the space is related to material reality but in mathematics space is a wider concept. Limiting the concept of dimensions to a physical reality leads us to think the fifth dimension doesn't exist.

I recomend you read the Allegory of the Cave (Plato) and think about it...it seems to be useless for astral projecting but can help you once you decide to explore.

IMO the word "dimension" is missused. I don't want to give a lecture in maths because some of you would probably ask a moderator to ban me, but talking about dimensions is a serious subject that can lead to a huge philosophical discussion quite useless (a priori) to explore the consciousness.

Just think about a fourth ot fifth dimension...wow!!!...how can you perceive it?. In conscioussnes exploration I think we are limited by our three dimensions perspective. We are beings living in a 3D world. I can't imagine jumping to a 4 or 5 dimensions world as if you where moving in a  storey building.

I know I can't go to API, it just doesn't happen, so I don't think I can "see" the image there.

I just would like to know what Grey says about it and if he really wants to host another experiment.
And I say "thank you Grey" for the first experiment. 

If you say you can't you will not go...it is not necessary be there in 3D stereo. Just relax, let your surface thoughts go and pretend you go there...imagine it, walk the beach and feel the sand, touch a palm tree, listen the surf...let the scenary to absorb you...and maybe you see something it is not supposed to be there. I can tell you it works...open your mind and be confident.

What happened to me last night was a falling star field...It was like falling stars from above, but I spoiled it to quickly (as usual)...at least is something.

I havent actually tried going to the island yet but I just closed my eyes and thought about it for a second and saw a blue transparent cd case with a cd in it sitting on a beach.

I dind't place it.

The "thing" I placed there is sitting on the beach...tonight I will have a look if is still there!

Ok...buying half maybe reasonable...

It is not a myth that you loose something with mp3, it is tested by them that there is a loss if the bit rate is under 256...they know almost all of us copy something and they don't want you to spoil your experience with a bad copy.

I think it would be the most ideal if there were 2 hosts, so that also the hosts have the chance to participate in at least one of the experiments.

I can put something in the island tonight when I practice with Hemi-sync. When I attended TMI's gateway one participant saw something a friend put in a certain focus level for her. It is an interesting thing.

I will put this picture: http://rapidshare.com/files/386145570/Quizz.rar.html

I`ll give the password once we finish the experiment.

The item wasn't on Astral Pulse Island.
This was a real, physical, tangible item that Greytraveler had in his house. 

~Ryan

yes I know, but it would be better to use an astral place instead of a room...if you want to try remote viewing there are some places in the web where you can practice using codes related with certain places.

I see Timandra was quite near...we will see if it was luck.

Why don't we all place something in the island "astrally" so everybody can play, otherwise graytraveller will lose again the oportunity to play.

tonight I will put something...

Bad guys...we should support those who are seeking the development of consciousness. anyway, if you download it be sure is in a lossless format as long as compressed formats ruin it

It will change your point of view. IMO Belzebuub stuff is full of mysticism and useless paraphernalia. I like Monroe and Franks's approach. You would find Bruce Moen interesting too...all of them far away from mystics.

I have just ordered:

Hemi-Sync Support for Journeys Out of the Body

From Relax-Uk - cost £45.

I used it for a while, but I found it  of little use. Try it, each one experience is unique

You can get the best of hemi-sync if you attend a residential or a at least a workshop. Only listening Cd's is a help, but the real good thing of hemi-sync is you learn to recognize different states os awareness...and feel them, so reaching them is easier once yo know how they feel.