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I wrote this in a post before but I shall repost here.

I talked to a friend about vibrations, he's a graduate working with our nations state research institute. Very open minded with a great understanding about waves and lovely things like quantum physics and the crazy things it does.

Anyway, as he explained, the upper parts of our atmosphere seem to contain 4Hz EM frequency wave, basically 4Hz electromagnetic frequencies cannot escape the earth at all. Interesting thing about the 4Hz wave is (as many of you will already know) is the same frequency our brains use when we reach a Delta wave state (Theta is 4-7, Delta is less than 4). Not only that but it's been registered in all animals and plant life. Another interesting point is that babies brains only emit these 4Hz or below Delta waves, as well as it has also been discovered in continuous attention tasks, such as meditation.

Now should these waves be the connective element between all of us (or perhaps even creating the super-consciousness itself of which we all gain ours from) then what may occur in the early stages of phasing into the astral stages is that as we are trying to connect to that frequency in our internal tuning systems, then you would feel a steady pulse at around 4 pulses per second. The sensation would increase in strength of the pulses until we are making an accurate enough connection to that particular frequency.

As for why it stops or isn't felt at all by some, well, the theory I'm kicking around is that it's like a radio. If you're looking for a station you need to keep tuning the frequency until you find it. At first it soft and distorted, the gets stronger and become much louder, before dropping and settling in to the station. Onc you know what frequency you look at, you can tune straight to it and skip that whole part. I think we go through something similar if we are slowly searching for the frequency that is responsible for connection with the astral. Once we have figured it out (or if we already know it.... somehow) then we phase directly, rather than having to find it each time.

Anyway, my friends been quite helpful in looking into this. I'll post a link once I've written this out properly, but to me it seems a good explanation for a lot of things, not just phasing. These include:

Why babies and young children learn so quickly
Why our eco-system seems to effectively self balance
Why two plants of different species root systems automatically grow away from one another

Anyway, a bit of a long post and I apologize but would really love some feedback and suggestions. Please note though this idea really doesn't preclude the ideas of spirituality regarding the astral plane or the Buddhist shared consciousness concept etc., it reinforces them quite strongly.

Yeah pretty much that stage Im referring too, much how difficult is it to engage the tactile senses when you're in third person? I never found that it's been as engaging, apart from a focus image to keep your consciousness.

Gday

I suffer from an issue that I think a lot of people, that's the curse of third person visualization. Maybe it too much thinking like a movie or something and it's difficult to get a first person perspective on your visuals, especially something that tangible enough to trick the subconscious into believing it's in the dream state.

However the first thing I've been doing is practicing, all the time during the waking hours when my mind isn't busy with something. But the first person thing was still hard, yet I discovered a trick. There's one type of memory you have thats generally perfect visuals, great clarity of memory and best of all guaranteed first person recollection. That's memories where you've been in a fight or flight response. For example, if you've been in a car crash, even if only a minor one, memories are clear and always in the first person (I've found and many I have asked agree). My first skydive was the same. If you've been in a fight at any stage that's generally pretty strongly in the first person.

So I started by using a pretty epic sorta car crash I had, right up to when i stopped and got out, then, I visualized grabbing a cab and catching it a club and telling him to step on it. I tried to keep the emotive level up and sure enough I noticed that on the cab ride over and at the club we arrive at my subconscious was brilliantly filling in the details like it should and I was still comfortable visualizing in the first person.

Did the whole club walkthrough (I worked there so it's a place I walked around... a lot) so still something I knew, then headed out and tried something different. Decided to go for an old ww2 era spitfire, took it off from the city and then started flying over various fantasy style vistas. All managed to be maintained in the first person a lot easier once it gave you a kick start. Maybe not something to do when you're trying to focus, might pull you out of it, but great way to practice and teach your mind to get in the habit of visualizing in the first person.

Anyway, good luck all.

I've just gotten hold of it and I'm finding it interesting. I have to agree theres a bit on there that doesn't totally apply to OBE stuff but it's still good to do.

I like the box tool idea, I'm pretty fascinated with the importance of symbols to the brain and I've found that I can aid visualization by really drawing items or symbols that resonate with the concept I'm trying to attribute to it. I found you cant just sketch something or think up something real quick, it seems best to really sit and think about the concept or emotion you want to tag with it and find something that really clicks.

I'm doing that with a preset environment as a "base" to get to know just as intimately. Still working on it though. I know its a method people have talked about and seems like a sound idea.

G'day guys n gals,

I have been discussing an idea with a friend of mine, a very capable young engineer and physics nut, regarding vibrations and potentially what is being experienced by the vibrations felt when phasing and potential explanations for what the consciousness is experiencing in focus 3 and possibly focus 4 stage, as well as some interesting questions on awareness and consciousness.

The theory stems I guess from something that no doubt someone has mentioned before. The upper atmosphere creates some sort of effect which allows a constant retained 6hertz wave (I think its electromagnetic, Im not sure, my hideously brainy mate isn't present), also the same as the brain in regards to theta waves. The idea is quite along the lines of Franks phasing theory. If you are in fact phasing in a similar fashion to electromagnetic energy moving along a wire, the that work by tuning in on a different frequency. Now the beat of this pulse from peak to trough is I believe 6 beats per second.

Now if you are phasing your consciousness, you are I imagine tuning your internal brainwaves to the same frequency as this constant background frequency. Now the vibrations may be your awareness starting to phase to the same frequency as this noise. When we aren't in phase the waveform may look like a straight line, because our awareness is ninety degrees out of phase to it when we are operating on alpha waves etc.. So as our awareness makes that phase transition ninety degrees the wave becomes slowly and then more powerfully intense manifesting in vibrations. Until you are in phase with the 6 hertz shared waveform and you're off, clear signal.

Now based on the idea of connecting to that waveform that exists everywhere on the planet, it may explain a little bit why there's four major focus regions described. Because ultimately, theres only four outcomes from phasing on a waveform. Either a straight, horizontal line, a waveform, an inverse of that waveform, and a second horizontal line. Effectively rotating a wave around its axis is a pretty good analogy. So each focus is a different phase in connection with this constant six herz in one direction or another, and ultimately all life in some way may be connected with this wave. It may explain the strange creatures and permanent places on focus 3 a little bit. Maybe focus 4 is our collective consciousness in it's basic form. Perhaps the training zone in focus 2 is just use tuning in to our own brains transmitter. It does add a lot of credence to the Gaea theory and explain a bit about how our systems communicate on the planet to result in the balance of our ecosystem. Its an interesting thought.

Anyway, a couple of questions for those who can answer them (cruising in f10 at the moment lipping to f12 in about twenty minutes when its good.... never enough time)

What sort of beat per second do you estimate it feels like when the vibrations occur?

Do vibrations feel like a waveform? Or are they more of a beat? How would you describe them?

In focus 3 has anyone ever had experience with strange creatures? Communication?

Are the any experiences you've had in focus 3 of strange locations that couldn't be described by human ideas or standards?

Anyway, just an idea my mate and I are looking at. He's really into and good at a lot of theory that supports the ideas Frank was talking about, and I'm into understanding awareness itself scientifically. Any answers would be great. Cheers.

The same method is used in Remote Viewing while seeking for lotto numbers. Each number is paired with the image and then the image is retrieved, not the number.

Indeed, mental pegging for memory has exactly the same thing. Its all about making an image from information or text. For example the licence plate DHV116 becomes a visual story of a Dog smacking me with a Hammer, before kidnapping me in a Van, then hitting a Tree, causing me to fly out of the front windshield and hit another Tree, then having the dog come and shoot me with a Gun. Its nice and emotive, when you visualize it properly the brain easily keeps hold of emotive, exciting and strange events. So if I try to recall the plate I get the story in my mind I just made, and can thus recall D(og)H(ammer)V(an)1(tree)1(tree)6(gun).

Kinda like when you watch a movie for the first time that you love, brain just clicks off and you just sponge it up. If you can induce that same feeling of awe and involvement (I find this tends to accelerate my noticing) sounds like it will reaffirm the connection.

Hey all,

I've just been reading about people using playing cards to validate real time OBEs. One this that seems to occur is that people have no issues recalling the correct suit after returning to the physical, however significant issues recalling the number.

I've studied a technique called mental pegging, a technique that uses visualization to remember last lists of information. With concentration I can recall a list of 40 items in order with relative ease. The technique itself is based on a simple concept regarding how the mind remembers things, a concept that I'm fairly certain carries over to OBEs.

To demonstrate the concept, read this passage:

A red corner lounge, with two black cushions either end, a throw rug over the back and a long tear in one of the cushions.

Obviously, in reading that you saw an image of the couch in your mind. This is the key, the fact that the memory works on images and not on words. A lot of people fall into the mistake of repeat reading concepts to remember them, when reading it once and applying an image to it means you only have to read it once.

Considering the nature of what people on the forums here do, it should be no surprise that the mind works on pictures (More accurately, symbols). So based on this I think playing cards aren't the best option as a tool to validate, particularly in the early stages.

I'd like to see how somebody goes using the Zener card set, the psychic testing cards that just have very simple, defined symbols on them. I suspect that these will bring far more success because a symbol will imprint directly onto you memory, where the number on a playing card has two stages to go through, because it has to be translated from a symbol (e.g. 3) to the concept of the number then back to a symbolic interpretation again. Interestingly the card experiments I read with playing cards generally show correct suit, but also correctly seeing a face card for a face card, or a numerical card for a numerical card, but never seeing a face card for a numerical card or visa versa. This might also explain why it's so difficult to recall written text from an OBE.

Anyway, I'm still a bit of experimenting myself with this (I also think theres a strong correlation between the buddhist goal of a "wordless" existence and the symbolic language of consciousness) but I'd love to see someone try with symbol cards. Better yet may be a collection of small objects that can be selected randomly by someone else. One thing we all know from visualizations and myself especially from practicing mental hooking is that the more senses you engage, the more chance of correct recollection. So something that can be touched and felt as well as looked at might give you even more chance of validating.

So that's just some ideas from another similar area of study. Love to hear if it makes a difference.

This is sweet mate. Sticky it, best rundown compilation for beginners so far I reckon.

Indeed. Let it roll. I did a bit more last night and found myself starting to get more vivid imagery, and for some reason relatively clear views of strange faces that kept.... morphing from one to another. My mind seems a strange critter.

One thing I will say that has helped me (When I used to do noticing before I knew what it was I'd rarely get to even faint images without significant time) is qi gong exercises I've been doing over the last couple of years with my wing chin sifu here. Its a simple one focused on opening up all your senses so that you receive all the information from them but focus on nothing (soong). When I do the same thing when Im noticing I find that it prevents sounds and itches etc. from being a major problem. I can't sustain soong very well yet so occasionally it falters and I go back to technicolor black but doesnt take to long to get back to where I was.

Anyway, keep on crackin eh.

G'day everybody,

So I've began practicing again after realizing from Franks work that eight years ago I was that close to phasing for the first time (However the falling rush made me wake up and throw up).

Last night I began again. I started noticing, the "energy" pulses came along, the darkness started to take on a 3D look and I began to see faint silhouettes, first of an eye looking right at me, moving back and forward a little, then the of a man facing away from me. I am reasonably certain that my eyes where relaxed and I don't think that I was "looking through them" so to speak. I began trying to move my consciousness up, back, twisting left and right (I feel like, well, a tension probably a few centimetres behind the bridge of my nose), but I was unable to go any further.

Any advice on next steps? I'm reading through Franks posts (Cheers Xanth for the summary) but I wouldn't mind some feedback from people successfully using the same noticing method.

Cheers.

Hello everyone,

A little bit about me. I've been gifted with a well above average intelligence (My aptitude test when I applied for the military in my country came back at full marks, technically makes me a genius I was told but using the term makes me feel like an arrogant bastard. An eye disorder prevented my entry but this may have been a blessing in disguise). I'm very objective in my view points, another gift, and I have always been drawn strongly towards eastern belief and philosophy. It seemed to resonate with me. In that regards I guess I've always been spiritual.

When I was 19 (27 now) I became envolved in a Wiccan Coven. They were all interested in astral travel to a large extent. However, I don't know if it was intuition or what but I knew that a lot of the stuff that was coming out of their mouths was largely hogwash. A few members would talk about the dragons they can sense flying in the sky etc. and it didn't click. The head priest, however, didn't give me that same vibe when he talked about astral travel. Being at the time fascinated with the importance of our consciousness and more-so now with the advent of the double slit experiment results and the concept of observation allowing particles to exist in a fixed state (As opposed to a waveform of possibilities) I began to try it myself.

I'd often (even before trying) sat back, closed my eyes and watched the shaped, pulses, colors and random faint images appear in the darkness. I began doing this again while at the house of the high priest. He wasn't really a great teacher type so I just ended up doing passive observation and some visualization as well.

Then one day, I was doing this, feeling like I was internally pulling away from my outer consciousness, when I felt a massive rush and falling experience, with the faint "lights" in my eye making what looked like a rushing effect away from me, kinda like the hyperspace effect in star wars.

However I was suddenly pulled back to my body. Why? Because I needed to rush to the toilet and proceed to empty the contents of my stomach. My head priest said, "yep, that'll happen."

So anyway, I was cruising through /x/ on 4chan and found a link to Franks summary page. Needless to say I was blown away. The idea of "noticing" precisely describes what I was doing, and to be honest, have done a lot in my life before and after I had that (lit.) sickening rush experience. I'm starting to understand that the rush may have been my first phasing, of this I am reasonably sure.

In conclusion though, I'd like to introduce myself to the community. I'm going to continue practicing again now that I realize that a queasy stomach had stopped me from potentially moving forward in that exploration.

I have a couple of questions about it to begin though, Im not sure if this is the correct place to write the initial questions but I'm sure no one will lynch me for it.

1 Regarding the rush I felt, would I be correct in assuming the sudden massive onset of nausea is why people say not to eat for a period of time before attempts?

2 I find that it doesn't take me long to get to a point where pictures and pulses of soft color and light appear "inside my eyelids" so to speak. Does this and my previous experience and practice indicate that it will be faster for me to reach the point of phasing?

3 Does anyone have some advice on where I should work to as a next point now I have started again?

4 Occasionally when I'm relaxing and watching the pulses and images (Noticing I guess you'd call it) I very suddenly feel a drop/fall situation which snaps me back very suddenly to the physical world. Is this just an effect of my mind trying to get me back to the physical or are these moments of phasing? I haven't had them for a while, but I also took up skydiving a while back so a fall experience has become somewhat normal for me.

Pleasure to meet you all, and I'll keep you posted with my documented progress as well as any further irritating questions.

Regards,

Blayne