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I've read a resume of someone resuming his attempts to do so
It was in a pdf I found a long time ago, I don't remember the name

But basically:
The guy would project and then go in the future to see the results of a weekly lottery
Then he go back in the physical and place a bet with the numbers he did see in the astral
He did so several times, however, for each tries, the results in the physical were always a bit different than the one in the astral...
So he never won this way

I know you're super excited

Keep it secret I want to look like it is super usual for me to project at will

I'm pleased you did chuckle

here what happened to me yesterday:

I am in my bed, trying to go to sleep. I struggle to fall asleep then I realise one of my neon light switched to ON automatically (bonking ghosts).
I turn it off and go back to bed, and as usual I try to  get into the non-physical: this time I think it worked !!

So I do a reality check: I pinch my nose and try to breathe out: the air doesn't get out this would mean I am in the physical. But whatever, I try to go out of my body and fly: it work !!! I'm flying in my bedroom.

I do some peering (focusing on sense of sight) and it enhance greatly the realness, it feel 99% real ! "I have done it , yeah !!!"
I try to fly out of my room by the window, "I am mean to be able to go through walls !"
But no way, my hands are touching the glass and won't go through, while my body is floating.

So I close my eyes and try to teleport, but it get me back in my body ...
I know I am in the physical, now, but I do a reality check, just in case: I block my nose and try to breathe out, only a tiny amount of air go through. "There must be a tiny hole in my nose or in my ears, I'm in the physical... excrement."

I open my eyes and see the neon light went back to ON again, by itself.
I get up, turn it off, and go to my bed, and try to phase again.

And ... DAMNIT excrement bonk I WAKE UP THIS WAS ALL A DREAM MY REAL BEDROOM HAVE NO NEONS

If dreaming is already being in the phase... Did I phased in the phase ?
Haha this is funny

Am I in the phase right now

You suddenly receive the order; they have given you chips. Still the same product just represented in a different way.  
Some places call the first picture french fries and others call the second pictures french fries. They are both french fries so to say.

The first picture is mean to be eaten cold
The second, hot

I did understand that English people might call both by the same name, but in my country they both have distinct name
And here if someone ask for the second and you bring them the first, they will look at you astonished and have a seizure. Then they will sue you and the judge will hang you by the feet and make a fire under you

I'm open minded

Yesterday I did go in hypnagogia while asking mentally if I should continue to use this technique, or use the body of light instead. Along with "which path should I follow in my life"
At a moment a voice answered/said "I have no idea"
Ok thanks dear guide, 

After this, I try to stay still
I focus, on what I don't know, but I am focusing on something
I get some hypno-jerk, then my body start tingling, the sense of hearing fade away, then I can feel I have 4 arms
This freak me out and it put me back to the physical plane
I do a reality check (clogging my nose with my fingers and blowing), my I'm indeed in the physical reality

I'm happy of the whole thing, but hope to be able to go deeper in the astral next time

If you have any advice I'll read them carefully

I understand what you are trying to say
The difference is that you look at the macro scale, vs micro scale
On the macro, you are right
And I'm still okay with myself: go to McDonald and ask to get the second picture, and receive the first one: you'll not be okay

Xanth, I've read you don't like debating. I don't neither
I'll keep at my plan of working on hypnagogia, but I tend to get it only for a few seconds then fall asleep
And I might work at the BoL technique later in parallel

On my previous post: what is your English words to call the things in pictures ?

You are telling me that, this:



is the same thing that these ones:



I'm not okay

Ok... so what's REALLY important here is to realize "WHAT IS IT THIS TECHNIQUE IS ASKING YOU TO DO?"
*ALL* techniques are essentially the same thing - they all tell you to focus on *something* to the exclusion of all else. 

Take this "Body of Light" technique as an example.  I've read this one countless times over the last decade.  The "focus" of this technique is this "body of light".  You place your focus into "creating" this body which you then further switch your focus to "moving your awareness" into this body.  That's the gist of *EVERY* technique ever created.  The act of "creating" this "body of light" is the act of putting your awareness towards something outside this physical reality.  This is the act of pushing away the physical.  Essentially, if you "finish" this technique, you've done it wrong as the more you push the physical away, the projection reflex should naturally trigger.

1. Create or find a focus.
2. Use that focus to push away everything physical.
With this knowledge, you can then use it to

Give me a "technique" and I'll tell you exactly how it works. 

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2015/01/21/design-effective-astral-projection-technique/

Yes I know this, you are copy pasting this link in every new technique thread created after the 01/21/2015

But most of the techniques include focus on only one sense, and most of them are mean to be done within your sleep cycle
The most appealing particularity with this technique, is that is it mean to be done while awake, this is why it interest me (and all those pentacles visualisations look very badass).
To quote "Selea" who was an user of this forum talking a lot of the body of light, this would allow you to "not be a leaf in the wind" at the moment you project

To know there is people mastering for real the body of light, would encourage me to start to learn it. It seem like most of the people repeat what they have read and did not actually done it

I'm not sure if eating cereals can be placed as the same level then astral projecting. I think average peoples would disagree
And is social interaction the epitome of spiritual growth... I have doubts.

But what disturb me the most, is your avatar, it seem broken

By "mastering" I mean: being familiar with the technique and having it working almost every times

My main goal is to know why the process of life, and to go to melt in "the one" (if it does indeed exist)_ so I guess etheric plane is not for me, but if it is a great start to go the astral, why not ?
And if it can help me to get money and women, it would be a great (but somehow futile, imo) feature

I just read the body of light method by Ophiel,
basically, you perform a precise ritual with your physical body, then you sit eyes closed, and then imagine yourself doing it with a body made of thoughts, then you must shift your consciousness to this body (called body of light)

It look like an advanced visualisation (sense of sight) technique, but which also include movement (sense of touch) and speaking (sense of hearing)

It interest me mainly because it seem to be possible to do it while in the waking time, and it would make your possibility to project independent of your sleep cycle (more freedom)

Is there anyone who have mastered it ? Or at least tried ?
What do you think of this method ?

Does it make you more tied to eart while projecting this way, since you are somehow copy pasting things from the physical plane?

Surely there is many paths
But, xanth, what do you do to "grow your spirituality" ?
I'm being curious

If you can be brought BACK to life... then you weren't "dead". 
I'm not sure what you're doing on a forum for a subject which can't be proven then?   

From what I have read , many projectors did prove the realness of APs to themself

If he was in a Coma, then he wasn't dead.  AND he's still alive now... so he was never FINALLY, IRREVERSIBLY dead.  Right?  Right. 

Science LITERALLY can not answer the question "when does final, irreversible death occur?".  We just simply do not know.
Do a bit of research on the subject and you'll quickly find that science doesn't know when the "FINAL" death actually happens.
It's exactly the same with "dreaming"... science can't answer the question of "what is dreaming?" or "what is it's function?".

So yes... there isn't a person alive today who has been *DEAD* with that complete, final disconnect from their physical body. 

Reversible death or irreversible death is still death
But I don't like unanswerable hypothesises and I think we can't go beyond these, here

I prefer to focus my time on my spiritual growth and becoming a better person

How so ? I always though AP was a way to do this

You did talk about guides and tests, and now it is only my subconscious I'm a bit disappointed
But indeed, I was able to see my mind modulate some part of my experience

I will train myself to trigger these mini-dreams more often and try to remember to become lucid. I have read I'm mean to "jump/penetrate" the scene, to project directly into it.

My main goal is to understand the how and why the life and existence

This interest me as well

So, what I have been doing to help me to hear music in the hypnagogic state was to listen again and again and again to the same album ("all eyez on me" from 2pac)

It is the afternoon here, and as I was feeling sleepy and haven't much things to do, I decided to try to get hypnogogia with a nap
It worked notably better than at night

I was trying to actively create some music with my mind, then there is the song "shorty wanna be a thug" which was apparently well remembered by my mind, that started to play

Then I become aware of the following scene: I'm in the front of a building, the main door is closed and opaque, it look a bit gettho-ish, old...
Behind the door there is a kid who was going to get beaten by his father, because this kid was "playing to act like a thug". I try to break the door to rescue the kid but it doesn't work.

Then the kid appear on the top of the building, he is yelling at me to get my attention, something like " waaiiii" 2 or 3 time
The last "waaaaiii" was clearly a "waaaiiit"  and I could hear it very clearly, and this "awaken" me (got me out of the hypnogogic state)

Do you think it have a special signification, EV (or anyone else) ?

I guess you are the one on the middle
Your physical image is great at corresponding to the mental image I have of you from reading your posts 

I like your idea to ask for a clarifying experience
I tried yesterday night, by visualising a big "?" and trying to replay the scene with the kid, but it did not result in anything interesting. At some point I was able to get in the hypnogogic state and got lost in some blurry thoughts.

But it was after a party and my mind wasn't clear enough, I think I will get better results after the weekend

Thanks 

I tried  on previous  night, and I was able to hear a voice for a second or two, then my mind became aware of a deeply senseless illogical scenario: there was a kid drawing squares on a big glass (like a glass of wine), and then he drew dots insides the squares, each square had a very specific number of dots, this was important for him (yay ... lol)

I will try again this night

i thought this website was in pretty good touch with what you mean:

http://angelsdailymessage.com/

yes there is something to this ideas of becoming Love and letting that be the solution. i am exploring it, too.

They fully trashed their whole website and soul at the time with their stupid "please donate please donate" spammed between every 3 messages from their greedy angels

It is a static html page, it weight less than 1mb, the cheapest server on earth could handle any trafic for this website, a free web hosting would be far enough

If you do a whois on their domain you can see it is registered at https://www.ipower.com/

Let imagine they also purchase the hosting and not only the domain name... :

Starter plan: 3.99$/month {the most expensive plan is 11.99$/month)
.com domain name: 8.99$/year (way cheaper if they register for several years, and since they state they are online since 16 years ...)

Inm grrla, in my early 20's

I'm here to motivate myself to learn to project at will
I did it only once after many months of trials with no structurated method

My new plan is to train myself to stay as long as possible in the hypnogogic state to then be able to project.
I naturally was able to stay some minutes on the hypnogogic state when i was a teen, I could listen to full non-sense conversations or to listen music (at very strong volume and best quality ever, painlessly. My physical ears would hurt, and no headphone could produce a such good quality)

Nowadays I can enter it at will but not very deeply, I can create some body vibration at will too, even outdoor during the day if I'm sit and relaxed
But it far from an actual ability to project at will

So... Hello everyone. I hope to be able to see you in the astral world soon