2012 - Finite Questions :)

[jamie11]

Hello,
Just a question for everyone, ...as I look at any Standard Calendar it begins on one date (typically Jan 1st), and ends (typically Dec 31st).

Giving the Maya Calendar is a finite piece of work, ..it would have to have an 'end' at somepoint right? ....
They couldn't just keep going and going and going and going and going and going? ...

Now the question is therefore, did they choose a big date to end it? ...or simply think, ok what the heck, we have put enough years into the future for now? Especially when taking into account that there are not many Maya priests / calendar shops about these days right??

So is 2012, simply the reality of 'the last page of the calendar' ? ....

I know this is going to get some people wondering, but I wish to make the point in a scientific way ..

[Beneath_the_Roses]

I wonder why they didn't just finish the month of December before ending it...?

[CFTraveler]

Because the ancient mayans never heard of December, since they didn't have our type of calendar.  We're the ones who divide the year in 12 months.

[Oblivion]

The Mayan Calendar is split in to sections much like a calendar of today is split into months or just as old cultures split time up into ages such as the 'Age of Aquarius' etc, the end of the Mayan calendar is merely a point where the mayans just decided to end it, much like the end of OUR calendar ends every December, the Mayans 'calendar' simply lasts a lot longer than a year and is more like the astrological ages, when the Earth passes through all the astrological ages it simply moves through the first one again and so on and so foth. Theres no special event attached to these ages, its just time split up using astrology and stars as a guide.

[Old Dood]

This is very interesting about the Mayan Calendars (plural)

Part 1: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8689261981090121097

Part 2: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-567329528148516232

[N.M. Bachman]

One thing to consider is that the Mayan calendar, like the Aztec calendar, is circular. Is it finite, then? Or merely cyclic, starting over after the 2012 date, much like we are about to "start over" our calendar at the end of this month?

N.M.

[Awakened_Mind]

Cyclic. In fact it points to the idea that time is cyclical in nature. A sought of cone shaped spiral such as the picture. Once the ball starts rolling it circles around the cone again and again, speeding up at the lower points until it eventually reaches a stop, the eschaton.

This perspective is being used to explain the saying "History repeats itself". Different times resonate with one another. That what happens in the past effects what happens in a modern context when the ball passes the same vertical line on the spiral. Eventually coming to a stop where everything happens at once. It's an interesting idea.

Time is being viewed as cyclical instead of linear.

-AM

[AncientLokiRemains]

The Mayan calendar didn't have "pages." 
It was/is like a huge system of interconnected gears of different sizes.  This "end-date" is ultimately nothing more than these gears returning to their starting position. 

It's a birthday of sorts.

[369]

Don't you think they would end at 12 31 2012? instead of 12 21 2012 (3/3/5=11)

[CFTraveler]

Don't you think they would end at 12 31 2012? instead of 12 21 2012 (3/3/5=11)

Exactly why would they?

[369]

I'm going to try to explain in my thread later

[Doringo]

The Mayans didn't use the Gregorian calendar, so their calendar wouldn't end at exactly the end of the year 2012 on the Gregorian one.

[369]

well I see that every theory I have ever seen always has 2012 as "the end", but everyone knows endings are just new beginnings.


12 21 2012 is a 11 day

what else equals 11 is FIRE

F = 6
I = 9
R = 18 (9)
E = 5

6+9+1+8+5=29

2+9=11

(little numerology for you guys)

What do we know about fire?

Destruction and Rebirth.

[AncientLokiRemains]

Then you need to look for more, because 2012 is only the end of a cycle.  A long one, but a cycle, nonetheless.

Maybe because it's the end of the world *as we know it.*
 

[369]

I can agree to that " as we know it ".

[phitau]

I believe the main Mayan calendar was constructed to be a cycle of our solar system rotating around the Milky Way galaxy. The Mayans knew of five components of nature--earth, wind, fire, water and ether. Some believe 2012 is the coming of the fifth, ether, which is the ascension--dimension shift.

369, I'm not sure about your numerology theory with the word "fire." It is an English word, and I don't think English is too credible in dealing with topic. I'd be more comfortable using numerology with Egyptian, Greek or Mayan words.