Forgive me if there is a topic on this already, but here goes...
After reading the, 'Seth Speaks' material, I heard about a civilization called, 'The Lumanians'
Check these out
http://www.infobarrel.com/Lumania__Civilization_before_the_Atlantis
-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlv4rRFNfgM&feature=fvwrel --
Do you guys think that there have been similar spieces on this planet, that have, 'died' out?
What are your thoughts?
I certainly believe that we are not the only civilization that has roamed this planet. The pyramids (forgive the ignorance) in Egypt still havn't been fully explained to me for starters.
Do you think, once we do reach a level of less spiritual ignorance, they may come and help?
Just curious as to what you guys think?
That's a vaaast topic. 8-)
I've been watching Ancient Aliens recently and it's amazing that there is so many hints to high civilisations before our 'official' history (regardless as to their being influenced by 'aliens' or not).
Yes, e.g. the Sphinx is way older (according to many geologists) than the Egyptian culture. The pyramids also may not have been built by them, at least not the Great one on the Gisa plateau.
Btw, the Lumanians are maybe connected to the myth of Lemuria (hence the name similarity). At least some think so.
The Gobekli Tepe Pillars have been dated at over 12,000 years old. Kind of hard for man to have made them since modern science says Humanity has only been around for 6,000 years. But I guess that's like Pluto was once a planet and now it's not. We don't have the answers for everything, but we certainly do stay stubborn about our theories, lol.
Linda Moulton Howe has spent the last couple of months at the ruins there. You can find out more on her website here. She is like a "pitbull" when she gets handed a story, one of the best journalists I have seen in a long time. http://www.earthfiles.com/
thanks guys for your replies, really appreciate it.
I'll certainly check the journalist out, she seems facinating.
I think it is a shame that (in my opinion) not many people create projects or reports on ancient civilizations. (I know some do, and they visit a country, do a report, a few videos, but in mainstream this subject normally goes under the radar)
I think we can learn a lot from ancient civilizations, what they did and so on, (although there may be a lot of guesswork involved, as the records may not go back that far)
thats my thoughts anyway...
Hi,
For some info have a read of,
C W Leadbeater's book The Astral Plane.
It's free in e-book format and contains some lines on this subject. Its 100+ years old and a good read.
thanks
really appreciate it :-)
Quote from: Volgerle on June 29, 2012, 12:50:58Yes, e.g. the Sphinx is way older (according to many geologists) than the Egyptian culture. The pyramids also may not have been built by them, at least not the Great one on the Gisa plateau.
I've been across one source saying the pyramids are hundreds of thousands of years old, and that may well be true. The people who have been assigning dates to the pyramids are giving the lowest possible age they can get away with. "The pyramids are at least 5,000 years old, therefore they are 5,000 years old."
A guy noticed the weathering on the Sphinx indicating it was at least 10,000 years old, and this discovery was hated by quite a few people. Never disproven, of course, just hated.
It's noted that there were several 'ages' of Egypt, under different rulers (mostly Sirians and Anunnaki members), suggesting that there was no single culture there, but several that moved in during different time periods. Maybe some of these cultures lived there several thousand years apart from each other. Also noted that some of the pyramids were built with a different style, and the Sphinx's face seems to have been changed at some point. When built, it was probably a dog of some kind (Anubis?) and later chiseled into a human face.
The Egyptians themselves are the ones that dated the Pyramids. They won't let anyone else do any kind of research on them that will prove otherwise. They believe that they are the ones that built them. To go against this would totally destroy their entire cultural understandings. It would be like someone proving to a full fledged Catholic, that God does not exist. They can't ever have this happen and it's understandable.
Hi,
At present we all know the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids. Its one of the seven wonders of the world and Egypt knows this. Should some clever person come along and totally uproot this with every concievable fact of backed up information the wonder would have gone. They may find the pyramids are not Egyptian too also lowering their value.
Thats too negative IMHO. After all WE have santa, the tooth fairy....
Thats the wonderment, lest we destroy it.
Good for the Egyptians.
Quote from: Szaxx on July 04, 2012, 03:05:00Good for the Egyptians.
But bad for Truth. :oops:
We should always strive for truth. Science should do it, but it does not, nowadays it mostly strives for profit and poltical or societal manipulation.
Quote from: zareste on July 03, 2012, 23:25:42
I've been across one source saying the pyramids are hundreds of thousands of years old, and that may well be true. The people who have been assigning dates to the pyramids are giving the lowest possible age they can get away with. "The pyramids are at least 5,000 years old, therefore they are 5,000 years old."
No, these traditional orthodox egyptologist don't even to this. They are more straight. They want to assign the building of the pyramids to the times of certain pharaos, such as Kufu and Cheops. So they say it's a concrete time span around that time of this and that pharao, and not probably older. (Other less orthodox researchers say that these pharaos only changed and/or used the pyramids for themselves, which is highly likely, same applies to the Sphinx, see below).
Quote from: zareste on July 03, 2012, 23:25:42
A guy noticed the weathering on the Sphinx indicating it was at least 10,000 years old, and this discovery was hated by quite a few people. Never disproven, of course, just hated.
It's most probably Robert Schoch.
http://www.robertschoch.com/sphinxcontent.html
http://www.robertschoch.com/articles/schochnewdawnjune2009.pdf
Quote from: zareste on July 03, 2012, 23:25:42
Also noted that some of the pyramids were built with a different style, and the Sphinx's face seems to have been changed at some point. When built, it was probably a dog of some kind (Anubis?) and later chiseled into a human face.
Schoch also says it's been a lion.
(http://www.robertschoch.com/images/sphinx/sphinxasliondvd1.jpg)
This ties in with Duval's (controversal) astronomical theory because the Sphinx was at the time of its creation headed towards the Leo constellation. It was thus constructed around 10500 BC (instead of only 2500 or so, as "estimated" by orthodox egyptologists).
These guys from a university (Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine) even date the Sphinx back to the Early Pleistocene:
http://mgu.bg/geoarchmin/naterials/64Manichev.pdf
QuoteThe absolute mark of the upper large erosion hollow of the Sphinx corresponds to the level of water surface which took place in the Early Pleistocene. The Great Egyptian Sphinx had already stood on the Giza Plateau by that geological (historical) time.
So what's Early Pleistocene?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelasian
2,5 mio - 1,8 mio years ago ?? Wow.
:-o
This is amazing...
and I totally agree with both Szaxx and Volgerle, that we do have Santa, and the toothfairy, and the egyptians have their pyramids (with other cultures having theres, of course)...
...which brings about a new debate between cultural myth/wonder and truth ...which is...
At what point (while we are on the subject) does cultural myth/wonder no longer is acceptable and truth (or the telling of it...) needs to take place?
And are we getting close to that point now? (or have we already past it with the current world issues?)
QuoteSchoch also says it's been a lion.
That's the more intuitive theory, and could be true, but the Sphinx's proportions are closer to that of a dog or jackal. (length of limbs and torso) Considering Anubis' influence, this would reasonable.
QuoteThese guys from a university (Institute of Environmental Geochemistry, National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine) even date the Sphinx back to the Early Pleistocene
Oh my. At this point I'm not terribly surprised. We know there were humanoids living alongside the dinosaurs, and plenty of off-worlders visiting today and throughout our written history, but what happened during those millions of years in between? Nothing? Well it looks like the dates we've been handed about our ancient structures were minimized if not completely fraudulent. I'm sure a lot of other ancient structures are also hundreds of thousands - or millions - of years old.
I remember getting hints of this before. Some years ago I learned to go into a trance where I could see things psychically, similar to known remote viewers, and when I looked into Earth's past I kept seeing off-world civilizations dropping by, some showing up and settling in, some coming and going. A lot of them were human and looked just like us. This was all happening when the continents were different. Millions of years into the past.
Of course, telepathy is only as good as hear-say, but I took another look through ancient history - the stuff criminals told us is mythology - and noticed a lot of civilizations that resembled the ones I saw. The ancient, culturally developed people who often had interplanetary flight. Looking through more esoteric texts, I found that a lot of the 'gods' and 'angels' were actually existing people from these cultures. None of the original texts used the word 'god' or 'angel' - those are English words, never appearing in the actual ancient texts. These weren't gods and angels at all. Many were our own ancestors.
The Atlanteans and Lumerians were apparently just a few of the many similar cultures.
So does anyone else believe that E.T.'s may have helped with the pyramids, or that E.T.'s delibrately crashed in 1947 in Rosswell to help with the advancement of this planet? (Just seems funny that since then, the technology has advanced, big time...)
All technological advances since that alleged crash have highly traceable descriptive and logical progressions of their invention.
Only if you want to not do due diligence and entertain a more general, normative theory does that hypothesis hold any merit whatsoever.
Don't forget, this 'explosion' correlate with that of the radio, the most successful invention of the 21st century. It enabled a form of unified communication allowing large scale markets to be reached. Ensured large-scale market penetration allows privatized industries to take on more risk, and thus, more R&D projects. This is exactly what we saw happen.
Don't forget, we are a pretty 'advanced' civilization too. :-D
Cheers,
Contenteo
Finally an excellent Documentary orchestrated by the minds of Mathematicians, Stone Cutters, Stone Crafters and Archaeologists. This one is definitely a must see. Way too many "coincidences" to be found here. See what you think. I didn't even know China had Pyramids, but I heard recently that one might have been found near Nome Alaska.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooy2LTJoMVM&feature=related It's 1:41:00 long so make yourself some popcorn and grab a comfortable seat.
I just watchd it Lion it was worth watching 8-)
:NoY:
I'd love to know who built Puma Punku, too, and how it looked like (or what it was in the first place). :|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjoh-EXjEsc
:? :-o :-)
Have you ever seen a Pyramid in your projections? The one constant I have, no matter which dimension I am in is I see the same Pyramid design, it has gleaming white walls and is always aglow, even at night. When in the daylight, it is always reflecting the sun like a mirror on one side, but I feel it also harnessing it's powers as well. Years ago I installed Solar Panels for water systems and the Pyramids to me seem like some kind of elaborate Solar Panel system that harnesses the energy of the Sun, or in some dimensions I have been to Suns. Why I have no idea, but I'm sure it's goal is to power something that hasn't yet been discovered, possibly even the planet itself. I have also seen the same Pyramids on other Planets I have explored. I am not looking for them, I will just be kind of flying around or moving around by a simple POV then I will come upon them, this is totally unexpected especially when on other planets or in other dimensions.
Have you guys heard about Carl Munck and his project The Code? The Code by Carl Munck is a code system based on the language of latitude and longitude (degrees, minutes and seconds), the idea being to multiply the three numbers in each set to a single number, viz., 15 degrees times 15 minutes times 0l.6000 seconds products at 360 (the number of degrees of arc in any circle). Using this he broke the mathematical codes and rediscovered the lost mathematical constants hidden in the sacred sites. In order to "read" this matrix one must first change the current Prime Meridian back to the pyramid fields at Giza. For longitude the ancient builders referenced their original Prime Meridian that ran from pole to pole marked by The Great Pyramid at Giza. Today it can be found at 31 degrees, 08 minutes, and 00.8 seconds to the east of our modern Greenwich Prime Meridian. For latitude, ancient monuments were referenced to the same equator that we use today. Once we do this, properly, the monuments of the global matrix system become as the individual pages of an encyclopedia, beautifully preserved through numbers and maps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9lTB0hTNU&feature=related
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw9lTB0hTNU&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_GMuiRzIU0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_GMuiRzIU0&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr0rJFV7LNo&feature=relmfu
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr0rJFV7LNo&feature=relmfu)
http://www.pyramidmatrix.com/ (http://www.pyramidmatrix.com/)
Fascinating! Thank you for the info Holy Blood.
I'm glad I could share this amazing work, it's sad how many people are unaware of this planetary grid and its meaning in life.
You might like this...
Apparently they have uncovered new Mayan artefacts....
http://www.in5d.com/newly-discovered-artifacts-prove-mayans-had-alien-contact.html
Guys, this is really great
I've always thought that our history has somehow been censored, and the videos look really informative
thanks
The pyramids at Gizah might have been used for hermetic initiation rites of adepts and priests / leaders on their spiritual path. I am currently watching a long lecture by A. Klitzke called "Knowledge In Stone" (with several parts) about maths and sacred numerology hidden in the pyramids and other ancient stone buildings and monuments. It goes very deep and even is supposed to explain how the cosmos came about (maybe he should team up with Mr Haramein? http://vimeo.com/6721901 ).
Unfortunately it is in German only, also the author's books, no translations available so far. I might try to give some impressions later when I am through with it all. But it is also very sophisticated stuff.
Some info in short: the 3 pyramids refer to the 3 master grades of spiritual initiation: 11, 22, 33. The adepts who studied the mysteries all their lives in ancient Egypt (and earlier?) had to undergo each one. There are also energy vortexes within the pyramid along that path of initiation depicted by numerology (especially by measures in inches or centimeters, but also by number of stones or the exact degrees of certain slopes, e.g. in the king's chamber) and there are clairvoyant / clairsentient people who could even see them who were there together on a tour walking this initiation path with this author.
The biggest pyramid (Cheops) was for attaining the master grade 33 (also a master grade in Freemasonry - hence the pyramid on the dollar bill and all the Egyptian stuff - but the original teachings got distorted heavily!) in the king's chamber's 'sarcophag' (which is NOT a tomb at all since it also facilitates by it's measures OBEs or other spiritual experiences if you are lying in there and hum the right tone). The middle pyramid was for grade 22 and the smallest for 11. There's a lot more sacred numerolgy in there in every room and in the outer measures, too, and it is mind-blowing.
Whoever knows German can watch it all here (also on youtube, links are given, the google translator is of course crap but maybe it helps a little to understand what it's about):
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnuoviso.tv%2Fuebersicht-alle-videos%2Fitem%2Fwissen-in-stein-3-2&act=url
As said, I might try to write up a summary (if this is possible) of the main content and findings later. Might take a while though. :| :-)
This whole conversation is truly fascinating. I too have long known the dates given for these old relics just aren't right. As some have stated I have also seen 'scenes' from ancient history in remote views and projections that have certainly led me to think our history as given is pretty pallid.
I'm bookmarking this one so one day perhaps I can view some of those youtubes. It's wonderful to see what others have been thinking and are thinking. :-)
Sometimes I fantasize that I am a descendant of the Atlanteans LOL. I wonder if any lost civilizations would have had a specific gene expressions. Like Ancestry can tell the percentage of DNA in each individual from all parts of the world. They all have been identified, but I wonder if in some people they detect DNA that is not common or unidentifiable. I am about to send my sample to 23 and me.
Oooooooooooooooooooh!! DON'T DO IT!!
23andme is about to give access of their entire genetic database to the pharmaceutical industry.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xwkaz3/23andme-sold-access-to-your-dna-library-to-big-pharma-but-you-can-opt-out
Not a chance in hell I'd ever do one of these genetic tests. You couldn't pay me enough.
That's ok, they will use this info for research. No harm will be done for the people who gave the samples, but if they find traits or patterns to figure out how to create more effective medicine then that would help humanity overall. Lets face it, as much as I believe they are looking for maintenance and not cures on purpose, medicine still helps millions of people. Every person in this planet had used some form of pharmaceutical products and have found benefits. As far as making this database available to the government, still ok with that. I am not planning to commit crimes and be afraid that I will be caught that way.
I can see where that information could be a boon to R and D plus perhaps explaining our origins. But there is also high risk value as well. I can see discrimination of people with certain markers for traits or diseases. Insurance companies would likely want this information.
But would be cool to know 'who I am' so to speak so might do it anyway. I figure at some point they'll be using DNA info with or without our permission every time we visit a doctor or hospital or even the Blood Bank. Like everything else it's just a chance you take.
But boy I wonder how much hounding I'll get once they know I'm part dolphin. LOL
I think if the technology was available at the start of WW2 and Hitler did his DNA test, there wouldn't have been a war at all haha.
I am not afraid of discrimination, as we are becoming acceptant of all kinds of things, that even 50 years ago would have been taboo. As far as insurance companies checking your profile, the scientists themselves are warning people when they do their health DNA profile to NOT take into serious consideration any possible positive traits for certain diseases possibilities because these traits that they have studied so far are based on a small number of groups, and also factors such as lifestyle, environment and eating habits strongly influence your DNA predisposition and overall health.
Quote from: LightBeam on August 05, 2018, 06:44:43
That's ok, they will use this info for research. No harm will be done for the people who gave the samples, but if they find traits or patterns to figure out how to create more effective medicine then that would help humanity overall. Lets face it, as much as I believe they are looking for maintenance and not cures on purpose, medicine still helps millions of people. Every person in this planet had used some form of pharmaceutical products and have found benefits. As far as making this database available to the government, still ok with that. I am not planning to commit crimes and be afraid that I will be caught that way.
Research... right up until the Insurance Industry gets their hands on it.
Then you'll be refused insurance simply because you have a genetic abnormality or a greater chance of <such and such> disease...
Mark my words, it'll happen.
Quote from: Xanth on August 07, 2018, 16:07:57
Research... right up until the Insurance Industry gets their hands on it.
Then you'll be refused insurance simply because you have a genetic abnormality or a greater chance of <such and such> disease...
Mark my words, it'll happen.
It already does occur. MJ had 2 different forms of Cancer, totally independent of each other. They wanted to do genetic tests as well. We found out that the outcome of those tests would actually be accessible by the Insurance Companies and MJ's sons and their kids all the way down the line would be effected by it. We said, "no thanks"!
They always have good selling points and try to tell you that they care about you, just like Car commercials try to tug at the heart strings, but in the end, they are a business. The medical community considers people "statistics". They gave MJ 8 months to live, two years ago, even if she had Chemo, which she refused. The Cancer went away by itself, without medical intervention. She did stop smoking, stopped eating sugar and ate healthier though. She also began reading books on Spirituality. But the biggest thing was, she didn't "buy in" to their diagnosis at all. She never gave up or gave in to it.
Quote from: Xanth on August 07, 2018, 16:07:57
Research... right up until the Insurance Industry gets their hands on it.
Then you'll be refused insurance simply because you have a genetic abnormality or a greater chance of <such and such> disease...
Mark my words, it'll happen.
Yep - this
Quote from: Lumaza on August 07, 2018, 21:18:13
We found out that the outcome of those tests would actually be accessible by the Insurance Companies and MJ's sons and their kids all the way down the line would be effected by it. We said, "no thanks"!
Exactly
Thanks for your input everyone. I haven't sent the sample yet, so I will hold off and think about it. I'm just so curious to know which parts f the world my DNA originates from. I am predominantly Eastern European, but I wonder if I have middle eastern DNA since our country was under Turkish occupation for over 500 years.
Quote from: Lumaza on August 07, 2018, 21:18:13
It already does occur. MJ had 2 different forms of Cancer, totally independent of each other. They wanted to do genetic tests as well. We found out that the outcome of those tests would actually be accessible by the Insurance Companies and MJ's sons and their kids all the way down the line would be effected by it. We said, "no thanks"!
They always have good selling points and try to tell you that they care about you, just like Car commercials try to tug at the heart strings, but in the end, they are a business. The medical community considers people "statistics". They gave MJ 8 months to live, two years ago, even if she had Chemo, which she refused. The Cancer went away by itself, without medical intervention. She did stop smoking, stopped eating sugar and ate healthier though. She also began reading books on Spirituality. But the biggest thing was, she didn't "buy in" to their diagnosis at all. She never gave up or gave in to it.
I usually really like and appreciate your posts and your insights but with this one, I am really bewildered. As a future medical doctor who just went through a whole semester of oncology, I believe I really should point out the facts that you seem to be unaware of.
As you know, because I have discussed this situation with you before, I am tremendously sympathetic about this situation and I am really happy for you that it turned out the way it did.
With that being said, I think that the decision not to undergo genetic testing was really (and I am sorry to say so) reckless.
It is highly unusual to have two independent forms of cancer at the same time. I am not sure why you were suspicious of the doctors' motives trying to order the genetic test, but if such situation occurs, the warning bell "genetics" just starts screeching in the head of any decent doctor. And rightfully so. It might be just a coincidence or a somatic mutation. But chances are, there might have been a germ-line mutation at play which might or might not have been passed on to the offspring(s). If that were indeed true, then depending on the type of mutation, the offsprings could be in either moderate or grave danger of getting some sort of cancer too!
The purpose of genetic testing is to catch these cases before it is too late. What follows is not a merciless giveaway of the information to insurance companies and exclusion from the healthcare system (that is what could have happened in Nazi Germany if they had not favoured immediate murder of these people instead). What happens is that a thorough follow up is established with regular checks. And it arguably has invaluable merit! The thing is that for most cancers, the rule is that when you have methastases further than in regional lymph nodes, you are a dead man walking. It is a sad truth that contemporary medicine has no way of curing the illness at this stage, it can only prolong the life-expectancy. There are exceptions to this rule, such as seminoma (testicular cancer) or some types of cancer affecting children, but it sadly applies to most cancers. But with regular checks, you can catch it early and save a life.
And the problem is that you cannot possibly rely on spontaneous regression each time. It is true that I asked you about your case and what kind of changes were made and it definitely cannot be ruled out that they played a role in the regression. However, causality and correlation are not interchangable. There are countless cases of people who also refused conventional treatment, became more spiritual, adjusted they diet and they died anyway... and much earlier than they probably would have with the treatment. The fact is, that we just don't know what is behind this spontaneous regression phenomenon. BTW there are some plausible theories based on immunological processes and we will see in the future if they are right or wrong. Maybe there is indeed a very specific set of conditions that your wife met including some very specific spiritual excercises which are necessary for it to occur. That is why I turned to you in the first place. But we just cannot know anything for sure from one case.
I am definitely not judgmental of anyone who does this thing if the treatment doesn't offer any chance of being cured. Heck, I have been there myself with my loved ones. The hardest decision to be made! But when it comes to genetic testing which can prevent this from happening to close relatives, I don't find the choice hard at all. And as it is hopefully obvious from the paragraph above, it would be extremely hazardous, to say the very least, to expect that spontaneous regression would work for them as well.
Two more remarks:
It is true that insurance companies want to make money. On the other hand, if they were not oriented on generating profit, they would go bankrupt and there would be nobody to buy the insurance from. For instance, I live in a country where health insurance is socialized and there are no insurance companies in the true sense. They are actually controlled by the state and you cannot really choose your own health plan. You don't have the option to pay more and include let's say biological therapy in the covering of your potential cancer treatment. And you are at the mercy of the state and what they put into the universal health plan for everyone, which you are required to pay for, yet have zero say on. So to argue that the existence of profit-oriented insurance companies is immoral or unethical doesn't stand up to reality. With that being said, I seriously doubt that anywhere in the western world, you would be stripped of your health plan that you already have based on newly-discovered genetic mutation. I might be wrong. But that would also have to include the insurance company learning about it from you or your doctors. For the latter, I believe that would be a case of breaching the patient-doctor confidentiality, which is punishable by law.
As for the doctors viewing patients as mere statistics: I cannot speak for everybody, but I sure as hell don't! But the ethical code dictates that you must not lie to the patient. You might withhold some information if that might benefit the patient or if the patient doesn't want to know. But you must tell the truth. And there is no more reliable source of information than statistics. Surely, each patient is different, there is also the possibility of spontaneous regression, however unlikley that might be. But you cannot possibly say in advance how each and every individual patient will fare. So the statistics is the only thing you have. And you cannot possibly promise the patient to cure him or her if you know that every single case so far ended badly. So you have to tell the most honest estimate, based on statistics unless they really don't want to know. And it is sure as hell important, because for terminally ill, every day counts and it is a very valuable information for them, because they can organize the rest of their lives accordingly. They know how much time they have to reconcile with that relative they haven't spoken to in 20 years, to visit that country they always wanted to go to... And so on. It is much more complex than just "doctors see you just as a number in their statistics." Some of them do, but that means they are bad doctors. And just like n any other profession or social group, they are good ones and bad ones.
Quote from: Xanth on August 05, 2018, 06:21:11
Not a chance in hell I'd ever do one of these genetic tests. You couldn't pay me enough.
I completely agree, literally by giving someone your genitic information is extremely dangerous, any smart person would be able to cross refrence everyones data and easily predict 90% of what people would do in specific scenarios. any and every smart government should be using this to their own advantage, unless their just being kind and not looking and im kewl with that, but I don't think this is the case.
Not only is this kinda messed up that companys are doing this, but people don't even get highly paid for it, but they have the nerve to pawn it off as helping them figure out who they are, isn't living the process of discorvering who you are? lol.
Even simple doctor check ups, its stupid, everyone just assumes they should be paying for their own personal health, but the data all doctors obtain is way more valuble then a couple hundred bucks, for a small check up. feels grossly decietful and an abuse in trust in humanity itself.
I am sorry if my comment yesterday seemed too harsh. I really know how hard this kind of situation is. I was not trying to judge anyone, I was trying to help. Given my background, I wanted to provide context that you might not be aware of. I even considered it my duty. There are, undeniably, people's lives at stake. So I took it very seriously.
My family was also subject to genetic testing because of an uncommon cancer. It has been a lege artis procedure in these cases for quite some time. It is nothing new. I yet have to hear about anyone who came to harm as a result of this. On the other hand, lives have been saved because of this.
Speaking of 23 and me, I agree with you. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving my DNA to someone like this either. Posssible risks are probably still small, but greater than benefits.