Age of deceit

[RaYZeDP]

I don't know what to believe at 1st i believed in human ascension and astral projection and spirit world for 2 years, now i don't know what to believe after i watched this video my whole perspective changed i am so confused. If u have time please watch it and give me some feedback link-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmFm8PIz8M

[WiZe]

I watched the first 30 seconds of that video and stopped, lol. Only because he speaks of The Illuminati as if they're the creator of everything it sounded like already. Just think, if we didn't have the ability to change things then why would they try keeping the secret knowledge secret ? That must mean they fear us knowing what they know because we COULD and WILL change things, as we are doing now.

As for ascension, id read this last question on this website. It tells what ascension is, in the terms of the old days and of modern day.
http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/ds/hds-03.shtml
When he speaks of 'Monad' he means:"The divine part of the individual. The inner spark that is God and which seeks to direct the human soul so it can evolve and grow. The Monad however can not guide the individual until the individual seeks it. This seeking is a stepping process that begins with the individual first believing in itself and then touching the Soul (the mother aspect of God). Then after the Soul has been completely infused into the individual, the Monad (the father aspect of God) begins to descend and direct and guide the individual's life."

Whatever you believe, it's your choice, just know there is hope and there is something 'higher' out there guiding us on our journey. The proof is very evident, even to the biggest fools the veils fall.

[dreamingod]

Whatever you believe, it's your choice

I agree


More like "the Age Of Awareness" or to others "the Age of Confusion" depending on your perspective, and
whether or not you realise that all reality is in Consciousness. The act of thinking, observation creates your mental world.
You are really experiencing a virtual reality and imaginations of yourself as a personality construct,
and what you believe to be true (Watch Thomas Campbell youtube videos and relate this to your astral exploration experiences).

Like the movie "The Matrix" you are really experiencing a dream embedded within a dream, or
programs within programs (defintions and rule sets).
I was shown this as a child: I had a lucid dream and saw myself sleeping and was having a dream that I was dreaming.


Another copy and paste job from my reply in another forum:

Dolores Cannon new book:  "The Three Waves Of Volunteers And The New Earth" (Published September 1, 2011)

Depending on who is being hypnotically regressed, you will get differing perspectives.
This below perspective is taken from Chapter 33 - The Old Earth explains the mechanism of shifting reality:

the chaos is mostly a breaking down of the belief systems.
The chaos is caused by the belief systems being challenged and brought down to a place of a complete blank slate,
or clean slate. And that is the chaos for many.
Those who go on to the new world are comfortable with new belief systems,
and therefore, will no longer struggle the way those struggle now.

It has to do with vibrations, and once your vibrations have
reached the correct frequency you just automatically go to the next level

Everyone will be given the opportunity. Whether they can hold that vibration or not is up to them individually.
There will be no judgment made on them. They will simply be able to hold the energy, or not.
But none will be destroyed as the comments have been heard.
They will be placed in an appropriate space for the vibration they are emitting..

This perspective is complementary to Bashar's explanations.

Bashar talks about 2012 and why certain events are happening now.
He explains how you access different parallel realities billions of times per second.
As co-creators, you do this naturally by shifting your perspective; parallel realities are not places but illusionary perspectives


2012 ASCENSION Bashar Infinite Number of Parallel Earths to Choose From
2012 ASCENSION Bashar Infinite Number of Parallel Earths to Choose From


Bashar - "Shifting Through Infinity"
Bashar - "Shifting Through Infinity" - June 19, 2010



Bashar states the "Four Laws of Creation"
1: "You Exist".
2: "The One is All, the All is One".
3: "What you put out is what you get back".
4: "Change is the only constant, except the first three Laws which never change".


There is no absolute objective reality because we each experience a subjective reality based on our definitions of self,
and what we believe to be true.


CuttingEdgeConscious: Paradox Is The Point of Power   - Frequency Alchemist
Paradox Is The Point of Power: Darryl Anka, Channel for Bashar on CEC

" the present is not a result of the past....
it is more the result of the future that we are choosing for ourselves,
set against the backdrop of the conditioned stories that we tell ourselves,
throwing that out and creating these stories that then become self fulfilling prophecies, and
what we think of as moments are all the same moments viewed from different perspectives "



More insights: Spam, Spam Everywhere. De-spam & define to create your reality
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_spiritual_evolution/who_are_you_who_am_i-t37445.0.html;msg307698#msg307698

Maya & The Age Of Aquarius
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_2012_and_the_transition_of_the_ages/end_of_the_world_delayedagain-t37349.0.html;msg306847#msg306847

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[WiZe]

Very well said dreamingod, I've never read or heard of Bashar but the points you put across are all things I've read about somewhere else, those 4 laws especially. 

@ RaYZeDP, as you see the same material can be read in many different places on the internet and posted by different people. If it's your time, your HS will guide you to these websites. So there's nothing to worry about, nothing to fear

But none will be destroyed as the comments have been heard.
They will be placed in an appropriate space for the vibration they are emitting..

Everyone will have their place in the universe and when their time is right, they'll be emitting high vibes and and well on their way back to the ALL-THAT-IS

[Karas]

What worrys me is what the scriptures say on the subject. "Satan makes himself into an angel of light" first Satan isn't a name but a title: Ha Satan (the Satan) the opposer. Secondly we have angel which means "messanger" so all together we get: "the opposer will turn himself into a messanger of Light" "and will deceive many"

 now do you all understand  why I'm on the alert here? How can we trust what new agers say when they call themselves "Light workers" and channeling "Messangers of Light" it's scary stuff and I'm just on the edge of the cliff not knowing if it's safe to jump or not.         

[dreamingod]

What worrys me is what the scriptures say on the subject. "Satan makes himself into an angel of light" first Satan isn't a name but a title: Ha Satan (the Satan) the opposer. Secondly we have angel which means "messanger" so all together we get: "the opposer will turn himself into a messanger of Light" "and will deceive many"

 now do you all understand  why I'm on the alert here? How can we trust what new agers say when they call themselves "Light workers" and channeling "Messangers of Light" it's scary stuff and I'm just on the edge of the cliff not knowing if it's safe to jump or not.         

There is nothing to fear but fear itself.

Being a former Christian, I understand "The Bible" stories to be all allegory.

God Is Light  (1 John 1:5)

The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light  (Luke 11:34 Matthew 6:22)
> Meditate (by activating your third eye/pineal gland) to realise that you are consciousness-light being

the kingdom of God is within you  (Luke 17:21)
> You are God, the inner self.


Here is my post: Religion & Astrotheology
http://thecrowhouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6295&p=22310#p22310

I recommend Bill Donahue for Bible interpretations.
http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/

[Stookie_]

When all else fails, look inwards and use your intuition. With faith and correct interpretation, it will always take you the right direction.

I think Karas is right in being careful... not that I can say if it's correct or not, but that he's listening to his gut and remaining skeptical of outside information. That's taking responsibility. You don't have to decide now, keep an open mind while sticking to your guns.

[WiZe]

When all else fails, look inwards and use your intuition. With faith and correct interpretation, it will always take you the right direction.

I think Karas is right in being careful... not that I can say if it's correct or not, but that he's listening to his gut and remaining skeptical of outside information. That's taking responsibility. You don't have to decide now, keep an open mind while sticking to your guns.

^^ALWAYS the best choice, I think reading to much outside information will actually start to confuse you a little more then you'd like.

[dreamingod]

Definitely rely on your intuition question everything.

I use to believe myself to be a limited person who needed Jesus to save me.
I did not always think of God as the inner self due to conditioned beliefs of a lofty and separate God.
After my out of body and phasing experiences, one of which I became one with all and all in one,
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/what_are_your_achievements_and_discoveries-t25297.0.html;msg298472#msg298472
I understood myself to both the dreamer and the dream, another metaphor the creator of my creations driven by consciousness.
I've also experienced many other quirks of perception to realise that time is not real/ a constant.
Example of time loop phenomena: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211938

However let me point out that it is usually not the ordinary experiences that guide you to the absolute truth,
not subjective truth (there is a diffference), it is those exceptions that push you further from one's
conditioned set of beliefs, to discover that your senses can deceive you - so what is the unchanging element?

Quantum Physics and the "Double Slit Experiment" demonstrates the multiverse is made of entangled fields of energy and information;
the observer chooses. Therefore all experiments is based on subjective interpretation of results (relies on senses and the experimenter's
expectations and belief systems) some of these theories becomes consensual truth due to being supported in
the education system, by the media and becomes cultural norms.
One only need to look towards the "Placebo Effect" to realise that the power in positive belief can heal; I have and it works.
Also many accounts of Near Death experiences demonstrates that consciousness survives death.
http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2564.msg4299#msg4299



Everything is composed of ElectroMagnetic waves (Frequencies).
These are a form of energy that consist of vibrating electric and magnetic fields.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.
Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter.

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

- Albert Einstein

More information: All is consciousness-energy. Reality is organised in Phi Ratio.
http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2559.0

[RaYZeDP]

Thank you all for your answers i really appreciate it

[Karas]

@ dreamingod

I used to follow the gnostic teachings and I understand where your comming from. We used the KJV alot because of it's hidden occult messages it contains.

The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light  (Luke 11:34 Matthew 6:22)
> Meditate (by activating your third eye/pineal gland) to realise that you are consciousness-light being

"The eye is the lamp of the body. If then your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is diseased, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness! (Matthew 6:22, 23 NET)

See how everything changes?
If you watch peaceful movies and nice games your eyes will be pure. If you watch war movies and games your eyes become darkness. so this verse Is about filling your mind with good things. 

the kingdom of God is within you  (Luke 17:21)
> You are God, the inner self.

nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'There!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is in your midst." (Luke 17:21 NET)

We are already on the kingdom of God. This earth is his kingdom.

We need to keep up todate with the bibles because  the old versons are in error and they are trying to fix it now. 


   

[dreamingod]

@ dreamingod

I used to follow the gnostic teachings and I understand where your comming from. We used the KJV alot because of it's hidden occult messages it contains.

Occult means:
1. of or pertaining to magic, astrology, or any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies.
2. beyond the range of ordinary knowledge or understanding; mysterious.
3. secret; disclosed or communicated only to the initiated.
4. hidden from view.
5. (in early science)
a. not apparent on mere inspection but discoverable by experimentation.
b. of a nature not understood, as physical qualities.
c. dealing with such qualities; experimental: occult science.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/occult

In the bible King Solomon practised occultism
http://occultview.com/2010/03/08/the-occult-significance-of-the-historical-king-solomon/
Out of body experiences, channeling, remote viewing can all be viewed as occult practises because these
produce seemingly magical effects/ experiences.
In fact they are all your spiritual (non-physical) natural abilities.
To the ignorant person who is frightened by the unknown element, these abilities can be labelled as 'dark' or 'evil'.
Similarly to the Navajo Indian Tribe, not familar with photography technology,
believe that if you take their photo you capture their soul. This belief is true to them but is considered
as superstition to us (techno savy users).

Since the Universe is not made of particles or solid matter, it is composed of entangled fields of energy and information
(all is one), everthing is non-physical, another metaphor spiritual, consciousness-energy; our senses deceive us.
Matter is the electro-magnetic oscillation of Mind of God: http://thecrowhouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6667
The Holographic Multiverse - It Is All An Illusion http://thecrowhouse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9543

It's Time To Wake Up - We Are All One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pIJHJzDQcRM

Therefore as souls, spiritual beings, non-physical beings, consciousness oneness beings (whatever metaphor you want to use here),
we create our YOU ni verse
U ni verse or  
U in verse  - our own story/song through imaginations of ourself.

If I give you the world embiengot, how would you feel?
You don't feel anything because there is no definition.
What if I said the word means rejoice, now you will have a positive feeling of elation.
What if I said the word means worry, now you will have a negative feeling of depression or something similar.

Did you know that in the Indonesian Island Moken Tribe, there is no word for 'worry' and so members in this society do not worry at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ean4D3gMZWU

As thinking, feeling beings we all have the ability to define ideas, relating it to a number of concepts, in context and
attribute it emotive qualities. Depending on the society or reality you relate to, you create your mental world by your relationship
to a multitude of (organised) thought patterns you associate with self, society and the universe.
In the act of consciousness (thinking and feeling) you create your Youinverse.
Also relative to your starship or light body vehicle you define self according to body image, experiences and cultural programming.

edited post to add > This also applies to your DNA, health.
Perception & Beliefs Changes Your DNA. Embrace LOVE not FEAR to be HEALTHY!
The Emerging Science Of Epigenetics - How Our Minds Can Reprogram Our Genes.
http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2581.msg4378#msg4378


Reality = Mental World = Mind Map    (Simple Example)



There is no absolute reality.
Every person experiences their own subjective reality according to their unique perspective of self and the world,
and what s/he believes to be true.
Therefore there is no one correct interpretation, however there may be consensual interpretations
based on the individual defintions being in agreement with certain perspectives.
Reality is a perceptual illusion, making it feel real by direct experiences and engagement of the senses.


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Ultimately we each have free will to think and decide for ourself, what is believable or true.
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[Lionheart]

 So many people have risked their reputations, written books, done talk shows, etc on the date of Dec 21st 2012. If nothing of substantial notice occurs in and around that date I feel that the subject of New Age will become seriously ridiculed and all faith that people had in it shall fall. It's a shame because New Age does not mean the end of the world, but so many preachers of New Age movement have jumped on the Ascension bandwagon for may years now. A lot of them stating Dec 21st 2012 as the day of change. You can see all the back pedaling going on everywhere right now. It's too late to back pedal.

[Killa Rican]

I might be a little 'ignorant' concerning the concept of ascension, but where did this Idea originate from excactly? And how does it relate to 2012?

The way I see it, the Mayan Calendar just ends, but I dont think there was originally a purpose behind it, besides the ones people wanted there to be.

[Lionheart]

I might be a little 'ignorant' concerning the concept of ascension, but where did this Idea originate from exactly? And how does it relate to 2012?

The way I see it, the Mayan Calendar just ends, but I dont think there was originally a purpose behind it, besides the ones people wanted there to be.

It basically started when the New Age community did not wish to be on the "end of the world" bandwagon. I myself still think that something unique is going to occur, but not the end of the world. People I have talked to of all walks of life, age, race, religion etc. think that something unique is going to happen soon. Quite a few of them have been unconsciously preparing for this as well.

[Volgerle]

Sometimes, I get the impression that for some newagers "Ascencion" is nothing more than "Rapture", just clad into new-age-speak but expressing more or less the same anthropomorphised 'saviour'-concept of established, literalist (scripture-)religion.

So we then have the (fewer?) 'saved' ones that 'ascend' into 5D ... and the rest seems somehow damned to perish in 3D negativity....

I do not negate the possibility that such a 'shift' might happen. But somehow I don't like it (regardless as to which side I might be on...).

[kailaurius]

Sometimes, I get the impression that for some newagers "Ascencion" is nothing more than "Rapture", just clad into new-age-speak but expressing more or less the same anthropomorphised 'saviour'-concept of established, literalist (scripture-)religion.

So we then have the (fewer?) 'saved' ones that 'ascend' into 5D ... and the rest seems somehow damned to perish in 3D negativity....

I do not negate the possibility that such a 'shift' might happen. But somehow I don't like it (regardless as to which side I might be on...).

Actually the majority of society fall into the same category as the Christians waiting for the "Rapture".  It's a cop-out really, more of an ego thing to be sure.  It's all part of an instant gratification and self service attitude.  Waiting for a major event to relieve them of their "unpleasant life" is just another way to avoid taking personal responsibility in the present moment.  Waiting for the Rapture, waiting for the ascension, waiting for the 5th dimension, waiting for December 21st, 2012, waiting for aliens to invade, waiting for aliens to save us, waiting for the New World Order to dominate the world, waiting for the economy to collapse, waiting for the ecosystem to collapse, waiting for a major World War 3, and on and on.  It's all the same thing.  It's all waiting for an event that has absolutely no relevance to the present moment whatsoever, and it's all fear based egoism.  Continuously fearing or anxiously anticipating the future or regretting the past will continue to make the present moment unpleasant.  The only thing that matters is right here, right now.  With 7 billion people on this planet, the entire global society could very easily have absolutely any kind of world it desired in an instant, and we could potentially do it right now, but we won't because we have to work through all our issues first. 

[Lionheart]

Actually the majority of society fall into the same category as the Christians waiting for the "Rapture".  It's a cop-out really, more of an ego thing to be sure.  It's all part of an instant gratification and self service attitude.  Waiting for a major event to relieve them of their "unpleasant life" is just another way to avoid taking personal responsibility in the present moment.  Waiting for the Rapture, waiting for the ascension, waiting for the 5th dimension, waiting for December 21st, 2012, waiting for aliens to invade, waiting for aliens to save us, waiting for the New World Order to dominate the world, waiting for the economy to collapse, waiting for the ecosystem to collapse, waiting for a major World War 3, and on and on.  It's all the same thing.  It's all waiting for an event that has absolutely no relevance to the present moment whatsoever, and it's all fear based egoism.  Continuously fearing or anxiously anticipating the future or regretting the past will continue to make the present moment unpleasant.  The only thing that matters is right here, right now.  With 7 billion people on this planet, the entire global society could very easily have absolutely any kind of world it desired in an instant, and we could potentially do it right now, but we won't because we have to work through all our issues first.  

This is sooooooooo true. The only reason we can't get everybody to just stop what they are doing now and change it is because people are living for themselves, ego controls everthing. If we could get everyone all at the same time to stop for just one minute and think of others, I think that would create the change we are looking for. The only way I could see this happening is some kind of startling event such as maybe a world wide sound or brief shake up, that makes everyone notice it. But something that is too big to just ignore. Most people are too lazy to change something, they bicker and complain, but that's as far as it goes. It would have to be something that could not be ignored. Ask yourself this, how many times have you had OBE's/Lucid Dreams in your life before you finally gave in and started to find out more about them? How many times has your inner voice or intuition spoke to you before you have actually given in and listened to it?
Volgerie you are dead on with your analogy there. It's all in the perception. It's kind of like Religion in general, everyone seems to be saying basically the same thing, but in their own version.

[Xanth]

I don't know what to believe at 1st i believed in human ascension and astral projection and spirit world for 2 years, now i don't know what to believe after i watched this video my whole perspective changed i am so confused. If u have time please watch it and give me some feedback link-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmFm8PIz8M

Your first problem is that you're trying to believe in something which you have no first hand experience in.

Learn to project.  Gain a greater, PERSONAL understanding of it.  Then make a choice based upon that.

Don't make a decision based upon someone else's experiences.  That can only ever be a belief to you.