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Title: Alex jones a fake
Post by: Karas on June 19, 2011, 05:28:13
[putting this here since it's in our 2012 shadow goverment type thing]

Who else thinks he's a fake and working for the goverment? He only talks about fearful things and things to make you angry. Not once has he spoke about upcoming alien invasions or anything todo with who the "NWO" are. I know he knows about the alien invasion, he's a conspiracy type person so of cause he knows this stuff but he doesn't tell his viewers... And what bugs me is the fact his videos seems to show up in the highlights on YouTube! There's more importent things going on and its on YouTube but some how the only videos that show up on the highlights is alex jones talking crap and putting people in fear. He's useing fear tatics for some reason.

  "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - yoda 
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: Volgerle on June 19, 2011, 07:14:33
but aren't all of the conspiracy guys into fearful scenarios? that's what a conspiracy is about, it is never about anything positive.
but it's nothing which is so exceptional to him.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: Karas on June 19, 2011, 07:58:51
True but those conspiracys are hidden on YouTube and never show up on the highlights. This dude does show up on highlights once a week or 2 wich is weird for me. Alex's conspiracys are pretty scary for the kids to watch and cause it's on the top list no doubt theses kids click to see what's the video is about. That's what bugging me
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: SomeRandom on June 20, 2011, 10:19:08
So just because he believes in some conspiracies he has to believe in them all? Thats my only input considering I dont watch anything to do with him.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: CFTraveler on June 20, 2011, 13:26:11
All conspiracies are 'too scary' because they offer no solutions.  I don't know any of those conspiracists that give you any useful information-just fear, and if they have a product to sell, the product.
Sweeping statement, but true about most of them.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: personalreality on August 15, 2011, 08:21:27
If you notice, Alex Jones says that the "bad guys" believe in magic and such,  but he does not.  So he tries to distance himself from topics like that.  He may well believe in it, but he tries to keep what he says as down to earth as possible so that it can be accessible to everyone, not just extreme nutters.  He's like david icke without the aliens.  It was only just recently that the two of them even started speaking together.

But still, I often doubt the legitimacy of people like Jones and Icke.  There is definitely something wrong here, and they are speaking about it, but then that's how they get you, spread a little truth to get you interested and trusting, then drop the lies.  By that point it's too late, you're hooked.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: Stookie_ on August 15, 2011, 11:28:24
I think Alex originally believed a lot about the NWO and everything he said. He had his radio show before the internet and it's been his only job for years... if he found out he's been wrong for over 20 years, what would he do with his life after that? Work at Fox News?
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: bardips on August 15, 2011, 13:37:21
AJ did call david icke (and his theories) a "terd in the punchbowl."  basically he implied that the reptilian/alien stuff was all a wash aimed at discrediting legit. conspiracy facts.

that video is still available on youtube.

as a side note, david icke is the most requested guest on the alex jones show and does appear regularly.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: Everlasting on September 11, 2011, 17:43:47
I'd say Jones is mainstream, everyone  should know about the NWO/zionist banker controlfreak conspiracy by now.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: Ident on September 14, 2011, 09:51:05
I think that AJ has spent so much time being angry at things which scare and outrage him that it's now a part of him. He now has a knee-jerk tendency to rant and rage against the things he sees. He can no longer help himself to stop spreading fear and dissension. In that sense, if none other, the man has sacrificed a part of himself for the common good. Think of him as a war vet who has forgotten how to feel safe.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: Astr4l on September 14, 2011, 11:22:01
Quote from: Ident on September 14, 2011, 09:51:05
I think that AJ has spent so much time being angry at things which scare and outrage him that it's now a part of him. He now has a knee-jerk tendency to rant and rage against the things he sees. He can no longer help himself to stop spreading fear and dissension. In that sense, if none other, the man has sacrificed a part of himself for the common good. Think of him as a war vet who has forgotten how to feel safe.

Plus he puts his self at risk . He could be killed by a " car accident " or a " heart attack " even " Suicide "
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: personalreality on September 15, 2011, 17:30:12
I don't think he's necessarily a fake as much as he may not fully grasp the power of his consciousness and how he uses it.

He's an American, and even though people like him (and myself, I love a good conspiracy and completely believe 100% in a global conspiracy - though I will not say what specifics I believe, words like illuminati and reptilians, etc., are not a part of my paradigm) are aware of the "bigger picture" (too a degree, to be aware of the full picture would make you God), we were still raised in the Western mentality of aggression and competition.  It makes sense that his delivery method would reflect that.  So while he may be enlightening some who are ignorant to the topic, he's doing it with heavy emotion that only compounds the problem by inciting the same heavy energy in his listeners.  The question is, does he do it unknowingly simply because that's the "American Way"?  Does he do it with full knowledge of the actual effect, thereby potentially making him an asset of 'big brother'?  That's tough to say.

But that doesn't mean that the conspiracy isn't there.  I hate that the word conspiracy is associated with nonsense, tin foil hats, paranoid delusions, etc., because conspiring is something that most everyone does every single day.  If you ever make plans in secret to accomplish some task that will inflict some kind of harm (be it social stigmatization, financial loss, competitive loss [perhaps in a sports match, or for a job promotion]), you are part of a conspiracy.  Our political leaders conspire against us daily.  Why would the term TOP SECRET even exist?  That implies conspiracy.  A select few know about a plan or information that others do not and there is intent to use that plan to the benefit of the conspirators.  Our president gets a conspiratorial update every morning in his daily security briefing.  Conspiracy happens all the time, it's not a dirty word and it doesn't imply insanity.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: kailaurius on September 16, 2011, 17:16:03
Quote from: personalreality on September 15, 2011, 17:30:12
...conspiring is something that most everyone does every single day.  ....Conspiracy happens all the time, it's not a dirty word and it doesn't imply insanity.

Yes, I agree.  Like I said in another post not too long ago, the "Powers That Be" and all conspiring institutions are no different than the individuals all throughout mainstream society.  They are basically a reflection of us.  The average mainstream individual conspires against others quite a bit for the purposes of satisfying the demands of our own desires, to achieve wealth and prestige, to be ahead of everyone else, to be more important and more powerful than others.  This is no different than the conspiring institutions we hate.  They are basically just another individual who desires to serve only their own self interests.  The fact that society appears to have a growing discontent against the kind of behavior our institutions have been performing is a good indication that society itself is changing it's self-serving attitude, and that there is possibly a growing realization that there is a greater overall benefit in serving others over the self.  Although I have no interest in protesting, watching the massive protests occurring all over the planet is quite fascinating to observe.  This definitely indicates a growing massive shift in the consciousness and attitudes of the global society.

I would imagine that our institutions are not the least bit worried about the effect Alex Jones has on his listeners.  It would not surprise me if they actually encouraged this type of media inspiration, which would probably explain why AJ hasn't been completely shut down as well as other anti-establishment provocateurs.  It appears that AJ focuses primarily on the symptoms of the disease rather than the cause of the disease itself, which would be just fine and dandy with the disease, a.k.a. "the system", just as long as society doesn't realize the true cause.  The only solution I've ever heard him offer to our current situation within this system is to rise up and fight against the system - "Storm the castle" so to speak, which is not a solution to this situation at all - Again, focusing on the symptom rather than the cause.  Other than waking up the unawares, rising up in protest against our institutions does little more than validate our dependency upon the overall system.  So you see, whether we continue to serve the system or we fight against it, it makes no difference, as long as doing so keeps our attention focused away from the actual reason to it's existence.  I would imagine that what our institutions, as well as the system itself, fears the most is not our rising up in protest, but rather our non compliance, our desire to no longer feed the system.  As long as society continues to feed it's self-serving desires, it's ego, then we continue to feed the system.  As long as we continue to feed the system, it makes no difference how much we rant and rave and shake our fists against it, it doesn't matter how many signs we hold up and how many different chants we shout.  As long as the global society continues it's self-serving lifestyle then the system will just keep on going, or at least until it can no longer sustain the current lifestyle of nearly 7 billion people, at which time society will then be forced to reevaluate it's values, which is what will inevitably happen.
Title: Re: Alex jones a fake
Post by: Lionheart on September 16, 2011, 18:11:02
 To tell you the truth I think that we do need to be controlled to a point. At least there are a number of people that do. It gives people the feeling of confidence and stability. Most people don't realize how much they are being controlled and brainwashed everyday in their lives. Just turn on the TV or Radio, even the internet now. They want to tell you what to buy and how to buy it, if you don't they try to make you feel inferior. Attacking the ego is a powerful advertising technique. So is subliminal images. The local and world news organizations are the worse here. They tell you what THEY want you to know. Not necessarily what the truth is.
Kailaurius hit is dead on with the "feed the system" line. Someday I hope the masses will awaken, I think it would take a real shocker to make people actually think about the truth of reality and there are a lot of people who just like everything as it is. Plain and simple works for them, that's their confort zone. Thankfully we have a site like this where we can broaden our horizons.