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Title: Alien messages
Post by: Rusty on September 05, 2009, 11:50:33
Howdy folks has any one been here?  http://www.cosmicparadigm.com/Marks_Corner/

This guy is the real deal he is communicating with aliens
and he posts a new channeled message every month.
Be sure and read them all beginning in sept 08
They will blow your mind.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Oblivion on September 06, 2009, 12:38:08
Aliens do not channel messages. Don't let fake websites like this misdirect you from the true path to enlightenment and understanding.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: kurtykurt42 on September 06, 2009, 12:47:35
How can you be certain that they don't channel messages?

Space and time aren't obstacles for telepathic communication and channeling. Any extraterrestrial with the ability to communicate telepathically could communicate from their planet to ours.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: zareste on September 06, 2009, 13:59:42
"Aliens do not channel messages"

There's a neat little 'cosmic internet' out there that telepaths use. Lots of people from lots of planets and star systems use it.
I think some of those Earthicans feel alone in the universe because they lack the tools and know-how to connect to it, so they lack contact because most humanoids aren't going to fly 10 light-years to a little blue planet just to chat

Still, the above site is obviously there to sell books, and the guy is a wacko
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Oblivion on September 06, 2009, 17:05:10
These silly Alien channellings are just ways for certain individuals to make money out of people.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Yamabushi on September 07, 2009, 19:41:56
If you want to communicate with aliens then do it yourself. Get their attention out of body, they can "see" you. Don't rely on third party channelers; they themselves may be full of crap, and if they aren't, the ETs they are channeling may be (superior technology does not make superior entities).
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: kurtykurt42 on September 07, 2009, 23:28:53
Quote from: Yamabushi on September 07, 2009, 19:41:56
If you want to communicate with aliens then do it yourself. Get their attention out of body, they can "see" you. Don't rely on third party channelers; they themselves may be full of crap, and if they aren't, the ETs they are channeling may be (superior technology does not make superior entities).

What makes a being a superior entity? When entire worlds pray to you and worship you, are you a superior entity? When they call you God and make sacrifices to you and pray to you?

With a thorough understanding of technology you can become a superior entity, at least to more primitive worlds. With the technological knowledge they possess comes great responsibly.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: zareste on September 07, 2009, 23:32:56
I'm certainly with Yamabushi there, particularly about the lying humanoids. Sometimes I can actually tell that a channeling is real because of the brand of bovine excrement being handed to the psychic
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Yamabushi on September 08, 2009, 00:55:43
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on September 07, 2009, 23:28:53
When entire worlds pray to you and worship you, are you a superior entity? When they call you God and make sacrifices to you and pray to you?

Not necessarily, in both cases.

I was pointing out that superior technology alone does not make someone or a civilization "better or worse." Of course it should be pointed out that concepts of inferiority and superiority are relative and mostly based upon value scales which are highly subjective. To me, "superiority" is a matter of wisdom. Wisdom lies in how and for what knowledge is used, not how much of it is harvested and used. It does not take wisdom to advance technology.

Some of the spacefaring kinds in our galaxy and others do not responsibly use their relatively advanced technology. It is not beyond some of them to relay disinformation or misinformation to human sensitives for deceptive or downright malicious purposes.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: kurtykurt42 on September 08, 2009, 02:31:37
Quote from: Yamabushi on September 08, 2009, 00:55:43
I was pointing out that superior technology alone does not make someone or a civilization "better or worse."
I think technology alone does make a civilization better. Could you imagine living hundreds of years ago, where you would have to hunt wild animals to survive. You could get a cut on your arm, get an infection and die. Or you could catch smallpox or any number of deadly diseases. Not to mention the wars that went on constantly, killing and murdering villages and cities just to survive.

Quote from: Yamabushi on September 08, 2009, 00:55:43
Some of the spacefaring kinds in our galaxy and others do not responsibly use their relatively advanced technology. It is not beyond some of them to relay disinformation or misinformation to human sensitives for deceptive or downright malicious purposes.

When you say relatively advanced technology are you referring to space ships with interdimensional and time travel capabilities?
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Yamabushi on September 08, 2009, 16:38:55
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on September 08, 2009, 02:31:37
I think technology alone does make a civilization better. Could you imagine living hundreds of years ago, where you would have to hunt wild animals to survive. You could get a cut on your arm, get an infection and die. Or you could catch smallpox or any number of deadly diseases. Not to mention the wars that went on constantly, killing and murdering villages and cities just to survive.

The purpose of technology is to make living easier. That's not my point. People still hunt, get infections and die, and catch deadly diseases, and fight wars. It says something about a planetary civilization, from an ET perspective, when it still concerns itself with new technological means of killing one another. I don't have to worry (too much) about losing my arm as you suggest, but that doesn't mean I can't and necessarily won't get shot in the head by a gang banger (or even a cop, these days) or get hit by a drunk driver while walking to the store. Wisdom starts at the level of the individual. Technology does not lead to wisdom. Look at what happened with the Manhattan Project.


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When you say relatively advanced technology are you referring to space ships with interdimensional and time travel capabilities?

Yes. I'm also talking about transversal entities who, by word of mouth from a number of extraterrestrials, engineer galaxies (NGC 4736, anyone?) and universal cycles like our current one.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: kurtykurt42 on September 08, 2009, 20:24:52
So your point is, wisdom lies in how knowledge is used, and that it doesn't take wisdom to advance technologically.

I did a little research to find out more about how to "obtain" wisdom, but I thought I would post a good definition first,

Wisdom: knowledge, understanding, [experience] discipline, discretion, and intuitive understanding, along with a capacity to apply these qualities well towards finding solutions to problems. In many traditions, the terms wisdom and intelligence have somewhat overlapping meanings; in others they are arranged hierarchically, with intelligence being necessary but not sufficient for wisdom.

I guess the only thing we can really do, if any of us are lucky enough to develop all of these traits, is to decide whether or not we use what we know for good or evil.

Quote from: Yamabushi on September 08, 2009, 16:38:55
Yes. I'm also talking about transversal entities who, by word of mouth from a number of extraterrestrials, engineer galaxies (NGC 4736, anyone?) and universal cycles like our current one.

Could you elaborate on this?
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: zareste on September 08, 2009, 21:24:01
"is to decide whether or not we use what we know for good or evil"

I'm hoping no more technology falls into the hands of dualists in the first place
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: radman32 on September 09, 2009, 02:05:01
i just read that NGC 4736 was composed of no dark matter ... hmm? well do elaborate how u think our cycle is engineered as well as NGC 4736
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Yamabushi on September 09, 2009, 16:17:51
Quote from: radman32 on September 09, 2009, 02:05:01
i just read that NGC 4736 was composed of no dark matter ... hmm? well do elaborate how u think our cycle is engineered as well as NGC 4736

I'm not very knowledgeable in the area of galactic engineering. I was told by "people not from here" that 4736 was a "project" of more than one transversal kind in cooperation with more than one biological kind. I take what I'm told (especially by them) with a grain of salt until they can provide or I find further information supporting it. The dark matter findings were interesting and suggestive; a galaxy cannot host life without a dark matter halo and apparently the next order of business is moving it to a region that has some, or moving some to the galaxy. A friend at the NRAO thought Jalocha et al were using an outdated method of measuring and said she might try to use the GBT to look at the galaxy's H1 distribution - I'm still awaiting results.

How they engineered our current spacetime was the equivalent of impelling a Big Crunch of their own followed by "our" Big Bang. The Big Bang was more of a Big Rebound from negative time/space. As I understand it (and without getting too technical), they made the universe so imbalanced in subquantum energy that it naturally forced the entire thing to redress the imbalance. It shifts phase, drawing more energy from upstream (macro-quantum) by forcing the bubble (previous universe) to become insoluble - think of it as a great water bubble - therefore it sort of collapsed on itself, became a flatline of sorts, and then became sort of toroidal and began to reconstitute itself again.

George LoBuono's book about the Verdants, available online in word.doc form at http://www.alienmindbook.org/ or as a net book somewhere on the bibliotecapleyades site, talks quite a bit about transversal (or what he calls hyperversal) entities and a little bit about how they did it, albeit in a relatively non-technical way (no mention of anti de Sitter spaces, for example). Much of what George says in his book is congruent with my experiences and understanding of exological issues and exopolitical concerns.

YB
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Rusty on October 13, 2009, 23:49:08
Howdy here is another good one  http://www.wisdomofthelight.com/New_Home.html  these messages
are real check them out!
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: zareste on October 14, 2009, 10:58:34
it's bull crap. They want to control people by saying "we are the light"
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: hizuka007 on November 03, 2009, 22:11:24
whoaaaa!! do these aliens sells alien money?
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Stillwater on November 05, 2009, 01:13:01
No silly, they want alien money (so they can pay someone to fix up their site layout)

Learn to economics  :wink:
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: zareste on November 05, 2009, 14:46:16
Maybe our currency is worth more than Sirius currency
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Stillwater on November 05, 2009, 15:06:04
Maybe, but then they would just be getting the value of the exchange rate.

Are you saying Sirians are inherently dishonest?
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: zareste on November 05, 2009, 19:05:54
Well, no, but they are rather dishonest, now that you mention it
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: thirdeye26 on January 02, 2010, 11:22:47
Quote from: zareste on September 06, 2009, 13:59:42
"Aliens do not channel messages"

There's a neat little 'cosmic internet' out there that telepaths use. Lots of people from lots of planets and star systems use it.
I think some of those Earthicans feel alone in the universe because they lack the tools and know-how to connect to it, so they lack contact because most humanoids aren't going to fly 10 light-years to a little blue planet just to chat

Still, the above site is obviously there to sell books, and the guy is a wacko

But how can we be so sure that aliens exist? Is there any scientific proof that they exist? Or is it something like ghosts that only the gifted can see?
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Dragohad on January 02, 2010, 11:39:13
the scientific proof to me is that we are the only ones in a galaxy of over a billion stars. whats the ratio of life in that given equation?.....1 billion to 1?....too unlikely that we are the only ones....wheither or not we run into 1 another in the lives of our planets or systems....doesnt matter on that side note....i just refuse to think that we are just here alone. too improbable.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: vladjackguy on January 29, 2010, 14:10:00
I asked the so called "alien's" to speak to me or/and give me some proof that they are there.They are vast beings of light who want to help us.You can feel the radiant liquid light energy when you speak/channel with them.They have told me that they will appear to me in a dream.So that night i had a dream with them appearing in our town.I was with my friends an we were extremly calm.My sister got "alien" dreams too and they were peacefull and somewhat playfull and full of joy.
They are our allies and they are allied with the other light beings of God. Namaste :)
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: zareste on January 29, 2010, 22:12:42
QuoteBut how can we be so sure that aliens exist? Is there any scientific proof that they exist? Or is it something like ghosts that only the gifted can see?
You don't have to be sure of anything. You could look me in the face and say I don't exist. We could all be living in the Matrix, all the disconnected accounts of off-world visitors could be lies, the videos could be hoaxes, the historical records by disconnected tribes could all be made up. It's just that I'm not willing to bet my butt on it.

Off-world life offends us is because we have all these crazy assumptions about the universe, and the existence of humanoids destroys those assumptions. People assumed things like, God made the Earth in 6 days, Earth life ascended from bacteria, humans came only from apes, the sky-beings of ancient history are fake, telepathic messages are made up by your mind, humans are the smartest things ever, and nothing can move faster than light. So when sky-beings flew in from 39 lightyears away, walked through our walls and telepathically told us they're our technologically advanced genetic cousins and we were engineered, that upset a few people.

So while we have no dogmas saying off-world life cannot exist, it has been... deduced from an array of crazy ideas.

About this galactic internet thing - I'm still trying to figure out how it works, but it's possible for anyone to get into it. I'm only a minor telepath and I've seen some neat things. kurtykurt42 seems to have it down to quite a science
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Stillwater on January 29, 2010, 22:34:46
QuoteAbout this galactic internet thing  - I'm still trying to figure out how it works, but it's possible for anyone to get into it. I'm only a minor telepath and I've seen some neat things.

Haha, Zareste... I actually said something remarkably similar a couple days ago, half joking / half serious; I am pretty sure I never read a reference to the idea before it occurred to me, although I admit, it is a farily simple and direct concept multiple people would come up with:


QuoteWe are basically in the dark, since there is no real way that this story can develop, no new way for information to come. I would say it is like the Greek who discovered Jupiter- amazing find, but impossible to know what it was or meant at the time, and no way to find out anything more. If there is an intergalactic "internet"  through which other entities are connected, we haven't even learned to read yet.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: kurtykurt42 on January 30, 2010, 19:15:55
Quote from: zareste on January 29, 2010, 22:12:42
About this galactic internet thing - I'm still trying to figure out how it works, but it's possible for anyone to get into it. I'm only a minor telepath and I've seen some neat things. kurtykurt42 seems to have it down to quite a science

Dont' worry, I'll be sure to ask for a username and password for you guys.  :-D
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: lonecrow66 on March 08, 2010, 16:23:04
Channeling is BS sorry. 

There is meditating and astral travel and communicating with others.  But channeling is pretty much BS and is mainly people's own inner monologue.  I heard all sorts of conversations and sounds in different languages all day long and its a mish mash of thought patterns emerging around the planet.  Most of it is not directed at ME or two way.  People can pick up thoughts but channeling alien beings is BS.   That whole loving angelic we are here to help you bovine excrement is just that.  bovine excrement. 
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Stookie on March 09, 2010, 11:55:28
Remember that "Blossom Goodchild" lady who was convinced the aliens were coming on Oct 14, 2008? She kept giving updates that she channeled, and when they didn't come, she seemed seriously hurt that not only she was lied to, but that she passed the information on to tons of other believers. There was even a member here who was so sure it was going to happen, he said that if it didn't he wouldn't post anymore.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Xanth on March 09, 2010, 12:19:39
Quote from: Stookie on March 09, 2010, 11:55:28
Remember that "Blossom Goodchild" lady who was convinced the aliens were coming on Oct 14, 2008? She kept giving updates that she channeled, and when they didn't come, she seemed seriously hurt that not only she was lied to, but that she passed the information on to tons of other believers. There was even a member here who was so sure it was going to happen, he said that if it didn't he wouldn't post anymore.
I remember all that... she seriously felt let down.
I felt sorry for her really.  But meh... no aliens yet.  Quel surprise.  :)
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: kurtykurt42 on March 09, 2010, 12:25:25
I'm not 100% sure what channeling is but what I do is project to the RTZ/4th density and communicate with other beings. Then when I see them I start talking with them and then will slowly project back into my body and they usually follow me back to where I'm meditating. I can hear them perfectly and see them as well.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: lonecrow66 on March 10, 2010, 12:16:04
Quote from: Stookie on March 09, 2010, 11:55:28
Remember that "Blossom Goodchild" lady who was convinced the aliens were coming on Oct 14, 2008? She kept giving updates that she channeled, and when they didn't come, she seemed seriously hurt that not only she was lied to, but that she passed the information on to tons of other believers. There was even a member here who was so sure it was going to happen, he said that if it didn't he wouldn't post anymore.


This is why any sane person should NEVER EVER accept "channeled" information from anyone.  Do your own meditation and only believe what you think.  Don't take what others have to say when it comes to that.  They could have negative forces inside.  The best thing for you and your own purpose in life  - all the answers YOU NEED are inside yourself.

I'm not saying not to take advice from others or wisdom.  I am saying not to trust ANY channeled information.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Xanth on March 10, 2010, 13:00:28
Quote from: lonecrow66 on March 10, 2010, 12:16:04

This is why any sane person should NEVER EVER accept "channeled" information from anyone.  Do your own meditation and only believe what you think.  Don't take what others have to say when it comes to that.  They could have negative forces inside.  The best thing for you and your own purpose in life  - all the answers YOU NEED are inside yourself.

I'm not saying not to take advice from others or wisdom.  I am saying not to trust ANY channeled information.
All of that "channeled" information also has to go through your own perceptions and realizations before they make any sense to you.
This is, no doubt, going to bias and colour it in whatever flavour you want.
Your wants, desires and expected experiences are going to be imprinted upon everything.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Stookie on March 11, 2010, 12:07:35
My instinct tells me that there are a lot of beings out there who LOVE to fool with our heads and emotions. Like it's their job. The higher ones tend not to impose in the same way.

There's some good anthropsophy literature that goes into the nature of channeling/spiritualism, seances, automatic writing, ouiji boards, etc., and the beings they tend to attract.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Tiny on March 11, 2010, 14:27:40
Quote from: lonecrow66 on March 10, 2010, 12:16:04
only believe what you think. 

Dear lonecrow66,

*sigh the problem is that what one's thoughts aren't necessarily from him/herself and probably more often they are not.



peace
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Xanth on March 11, 2010, 16:24:00
Quote from: Tiny on March 11, 2010, 14:27:40
Dear lonecrow66,

*sigh the problem is that what one's thoughts aren't necessarily from him/herself and probably more often they are not.

peace
"more often they are not"?
I find that very hard to believe...
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Stookie on March 12, 2010, 11:19:56
Our thoughts aren't always our intention, but not necessarily an invasion. Though meditation you can hone your thinking/concentration skills to where you choose what you want to think about.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: NoY on March 12, 2010, 12:14:38
Some of these sites have been received very badly because they sell books lol
so does the pulse

i have read many of the articles from both sites and they seem to me quite enlightened really
its not all nonsense

don't be to quick to judge i guess is what I'm saying

:NoY:
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: kurtykurt42 on March 20, 2010, 09:51:41
I don't like websites that sell books either but I guess people have to make a living.

Quote from: Tiny on March 11, 2010, 14:27:40
*sigh the problem is that what one's thoughts aren't necessarily from him/herself and probably more often they are not.

I don't think that 51% of your thoughts come from external influences but for some people it may be pretty close to that.  :-D
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Tiny on March 20, 2010, 10:14:37
Quote from: Xanth on March 11, 2010, 16:24:00
"more often they are not"?
I find that very hard to believe...

Dear Xanth,

I'm sure you do.

I believe it is actually closer to count around the 90% mark. Of course a lot of it relates to the human desire-body, which for example commercials and markets exploit and use to program people.
But If people knew just how much they are programmed by unseen beings such as aliens and astral beings, they would truely shudder. There's a "grid" that blankets the earth and it is very, very tight. The sensitive one can feel it.
True desires from the heart whisper only so gently, but pressing desires and urges are all external ones.



peace
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Xanth on March 21, 2010, 13:43:01
Quote from: Tiny on March 20, 2010, 10:14:37
Dear Xanth,

I'm sure you do.

I believe it is actually closer to count around the 90% mark. Of course a lot of it relates to the human desire-body, which for example commercials and markets exploit and use to program people.
But If people knew just how much they are programmed by unseen beings such as aliens and astral beings, they would truely shudder. There's a "grid" that blankets the earth and it is very, very tight. The sensitive one can feel it.
True desires from the heart whisper only so gently, but pressing desires and urges are all external ones.

peace
And I don't believe in God... but according to Christians, he believes in me.  Right?
Is that how it works?

Yeah, sorry... no.
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: Tiny on March 21, 2010, 14:29:41
Quote from: Xanth on March 21, 2010, 13:43:01
And I don't believe in God... but according to Christians, he believes in me.  Right?
Is that how it works?

Yeah, sorry... no.

I really don't get what you're trying to say.


But it really doesn't matter what earth people believe  :lol:. At the end of the day things simply are the way they are  :roll:  :wink: and those earth people who are aware of the mental pirates have called them different names throughout history, Anunnaki, demons and such, i like to call them agents of darkness.



peace
Title: Re: Alien messages
Post by: cpt. picard on April 14, 2010, 15:36:00
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on September 08, 2009, 02:31:37
I think technology alone does make a civilization better. Could you imagine living hundreds of years ago, where you would have to hunt wild animals to survive. You could get a cut on your arm, get an infection and die. Or you could catch smallpox or any number of deadly diseases. Not to mention the wars that went on constantly, killing and murdering villages and cities just to survive.

When you say relatively advanced technology are you referring to space ships with interdimensional and time travel capabilities?


Culturally, technology has not always had a great impact. Call me a romantic, but it seems to me humans have been culturally and morally superior a few times in history as compared to now, the easiest way to do things (technology) does not make anything superior. Culturally right now for example, we are at one of the most ignorant periods in earth history, some people know much more then people in the past, true, but overall amongst younger generations especially, there seems to be a cultural inclination towards ignorance, and being proud of that ignorance. Facebook and cell phones and alot of technology have not helped this growing trend. I think culture and technology can influence each other but overall evolve independantly.