Today has been been the most challenging day of my life. A group of evil 4th density grays spent this weekend twisting my mind convincing me that I was ready to 'ascend' to their plane of existence. They somehow took control of my mind and I believed more than ever that it was my time to go.
I had little control and could feel my life slipping away. The past 48 hours are pretty much a blur. The only time I had a moment of clarity was when I took a shower about an hour before I went to the park. The thought of my Lemurian seed crystals popped into my mind and I quickly took them and placed them in my jacket pocket.
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9264/dsc03976c.jpg)
When I arrived to the park to try and fight the grays and their 'Ascension process' I held my Lemurian crystals tightly and called out to the Ancients of Lemuria. A women then appeared to me along with a large man with a glowing blue sword. She helped me to balance my energy from my overflowing heart center into all 6 of my other chakras and then flow the access energy out through my crown. When this happened I began to think clearly again.
(http://aura0.gaia.com/photos/31/305419/large/ERIAL-LEMURIAN_ANGEL.jpg)
There were over 30 grays at the park in the 4th density where I was meditating and they had the intention of destroying my physical body. I could see cords of dark energy coming from them all and they were attached all over my body. When I realized this, I was filled with rage and with the help of the large man with the sword we destroyed them all... The male entity was near the Lemurian above me and took out several of them with a single stroke of his sword, he then took on the 'Dance of Death', the Zen of Sword play and severed the heads of all the grays that were attaching themselves to me. All I could here were popping sounds and swear words coming from the grays.
(http://images.epilogue.net/users/sevencrows/angel.jpg)
I then told them that we are at war now and that if I die I will spend the next 1,000 years hunting every single one of them down and destroying them one by one if they do anything to my physical body. The entity told the gray not to return and I could hear the grays talking with him and they told me that it was in their best interest not to return.
(http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/images/Crab12.jpg)
Several hours after this event occured, a hooded elder of the grays payed me a visit. He described that the 'others' gave me what they call the 'test of deception'. Many from this world have not survived this test and he described to me that my training has showed tremendous ability to shift my own energy from the heart center. 'You nearly split the 4th from the 3rd connection', he said.
While under there control the grays explained to me that they have been secretly ascending individuals to the 4th density. The media describes these strange deaths as the 'Smiley Face Killers' and bodies of young, college educated white males from the midwest have been found floating in rivers with this strange smiley face nearby. It just so happens that I live in Wisconsin, went to the University of Wisconsin and the park I meditate at daily is called Riverside.
(http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/smileyface.jpg)
Kinda looks like a gray if you ask me... :|
The young men that have been killed are known as the 'Indago Children'. The elder explained to me that our race is rising to a level beyond that of the grays and reptillians. Over the next decade there are going to be many changes on this planet and the grays / reptilians, I guess don't want to see us become more powerful then them. They have ruled this galaxy for thousands of years and now there reign of terror is almost at and end.
To move outside, you must learn to move through the Grays space. You must not only respect it, but know how to avoid their entrapment. They are not letting anyone cross who is using deception, or following that path of power over others. No amount of words will convince them either, only direct responses to the testing. The fact that I have now faced them, and learned first hand, shows that we have penetrated this layer. There is no doubt in my mind at this point, it's they who fear us.
I know now that there is a hideous program taking place as we speak to locate and kill the indigo and crystal children here on earth. Why? They help to anchor in the new era, it's that simple. Those in control of this world know they are a threat.
(http://www.childseeknetwork.com/oldsite/collegeboys2.jpg)
If you believe that you are an 'Indago/Crystal Child' and have met these grays before, then you might want to begin energy body development training. It is the only way that will be able to fight these beings. The love energy from your heart chakra and higher primary energy centers is enough to take these guys down for good. I have been using large crystal spheres to raise my energy to a higher level along with the help of assistive technology. But don't let what happened to me frighten you. We are all capable of standing up to these bullies and with the help of a couple powerful friends they CAN be defeated!
* I would just like to say that this experiences is only MY perception of what happened. There where three members from my group that where there (in 4th density) to aid me and 'witnessed' the same things as I. This is a rather historic occasion when 4 astral projectors can all recount the event with perfect clarity.
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Kurt can i say something without causing you any offence
this stuff is totally dilusional that you are experiencing and am sure am not the only one to think that.
i know everone on this site more or less belives in ap ect and we all have a slightly diffrent outlook than most people in society.
but we dont damage our mental sanity ect because obe is healthy i think
but your either making all of these posts up which is annoying and in that case yu should channel your creative writting and make creative storys rather than posts
on the other hand if you are experiencing this 100 percent then you should stop or mabye talk to someone
i really dont mean any offence just worried is all and i know your dedicated with all the gadgets and techs you use to ap and time you spend ap'ing but none the less i think that you created some sorta fantasy and your either dillusinally living in it or lying about it
am sorry if i hurt your feelings
They took control of my mind, this is not a joke. I wrote letters to all of my loved ones and left notes in my house for all of my belongins to go to the ones I love.
My mind was altered by these grays and I became a different person (turned to the dark side). I don't know how but they were able to control my emotions and then control my actions. This has been the most difficult weekend of my entire life.
The emotional pain was unbelievable, I have never felt anything like it before. I'm sorry if you believe that I'm making this up... But I guess I wouldn't believe me either.
I think what he is experiencing may be very real. I have been there. And everyone thought that I was BONKERS. He may seem paranoid but I trust that he has his reasons. Reasons we may not be able to understand with our perception at this point.
All I can say is that I hope that none of you ever have to experience what I experience this weekend.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 21, 2010, 22:23:04
They took control of my mind, this is not a joke. I wrote letters to all of my loved ones and left notes in my house for all of my belongins to go to the ones I love.
My mind was altered by these grays and I became a different person (turned to the dark side). I don't know how but they were able to control my emotions and then control my actions. This has been the most difficult weekend of my entire life.
The emotional pain was unbelievable, I have never felt anything like it before. I'm sorry if you believe that I'm making this up... But I guess I wouldn't believe me either.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 19, 2010, 01:39:52
I usually explore as either a Jedi [Star Wars] or a Saiyan [DBZ], depending on my surroundings. But I guess those are both human more or less.
You seem quite fond of Star Wars.
Ironic isn't it...
The grays also explained to me that they have been secretly ascending individuals to the 4th density. The media calls them the 'Smiley Face Killers' and bodies of young, college educated white males from the midwest have been found floating in rivers. It just so happens that I live in Wisconsin, went to the University of Wisconsin and the park I meditate at daily is called Riverside.
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/367187/9_63_042808_smiley_face1.jpg)
Kinda looks like a gray if you ask me...
So wouldn't the information given to you by the "grays" have to be brought into question since this attempt at "ascension"?
Also, nice work going super saiyan in that video man, really convinced me.
QuoteThe grays also explained to me that they have been secretly ascending individuals to the 4th density. The media calls them the 'Smiley Face Killers' and bodies of young, college educated white males from the midwest have been found floating in rivers.
Sorry, I'm quite lost by now, what media? theirs or ours? If they told you all this, how could you have fallen for that?
I'm not asking this in any offensive way, is just sort of confusing.
Quote from: Jerry_Teps on February 21, 2010, 23:11:56
So wouldn't the information given to you by the "grays" have to be brought into question since this attempt at "ascension"?
Also, nice work going super saiyan in that video man, really convinced me.
I don't believe that all of them are bad but some of them sure are.
Haha... Watch the video again and tell me if you can feel any tingling sensations in your chest or hands?
Quote from: lee46 on February 21, 2010, 23:18:46
Sorry, I'm quite lost by now, what media? theirs or ours? If they told you all this, how could you have fallen for that?
I'm not asking this in any offensive way, is just sort of confusing.
Our media, don't you watch the news (lol neither do I)! google it you'll see what I mean.
I fell for it because they attached themselves to my mind. I could see / feel cords of energy sticking to my energy centers and visual / emotional uploads were coming from a group of over 30 grays. I am powerful... but not powerful enough it would seem.
Without the help of the others, I believe I would not have survived.
Lee, what he meant was that our media was naming the murders the Smiley Faced Killers, however, they have not said that grays are responsible for it.
No, I watched it again and nothing happened, this time with sound on.
Also, the same technique you used is done better in this video here, except this one is real.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cixsk3nbII
lol, you're a funny guy. So, you think what I'm doing is fake?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL3utSXvDZ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL3utSXvDZ0)
Would love to hear other peoples opinions.
I think that what your doing is misguided and evil and the true path is to Allah.
Praise be to Allah!
Why are aliens trying to kill you?
Oh,and i saw the video,was i missing something.
didn't have sound on.
Haha, naa, I don't believe in Allah, it's an incredibly archaic belief system and is keeping humanity from advancing.
Also, I though there may be some truth to what you had previously said (in earlier topics) however that video and this topic have completely overridden this.
Either that, or the world is really retarded.
EDIT: Also, I don't mean that I though what you said was true or not, I meant there was a small possibility that things may be that way, however, I did not believe it was so.
Quote from: Questioner on February 21, 2010, 23:37:59
Why are aliens trying to kill you?
Oh,and i saw the video,was i missing something.
didn't have sound on.
Who knows why they wanna kill me... There evil bastards I guess.
The video is just me raising my energy to my limit. If you can't feel energy then you probably won't feel anything by watching it.
So, to raise ones power to the limits, they must perform a kamehameha attack? Oh, ok.
It's just the technique I use... Whatever floats your boat.
Ka = Red chraka
Ma = Orange chakra
Ha = Yellow Chakra
Me = Green Chakra
HA = hold the energy in your heart center and generate as much power as possible from the lower three. Then move the energy out through your arms into your hands. Then you can blast the energy out as a beam of light energy.
Don't know why I'm explaining this to you though... Why are you even on this forum?
I do not deny the existence of "energy", however, your "technique" is not the most compelling piece of evidence I have seen. So I apologise if I offended you in anyway, however, I reserve my opinions and I remain skeptical, however, I do not dismiss the existence of the subjects discussed on these forums.
Haha, negative karma, good attitude towards those who challenge your testimonies.
Also, again, I state that I am not against anything here, i'm just pointing out that the video of you "powering up" was not very convincing (however, you have no obligation to convince me, i'm just stating that the technique you used does not seem very serious).
Also, back to my first question. If there are good and bad grays, how did the bad ones find you? How can you believe those other ones since it is apparent that they are very manipulative if they managed to make you believe you were to ascend then how can you be sure they haven't been manipulating you this whole time?
(Unless you are talking about the different species of Grays)
EDIT: Also, in the post at the top of this page I may have offended you, I apologise and I was merely trying to contrast the extremes, not to represent my beliefs.
You're really starting to p*ss me off. Today was the most difficult day of my entire life and you sit here giggling and making fun of me. You have no idea what I went through and how close I came to leaving this planet for good.
Giggling and making fun of you? I was merely asking questions about your encounter and I pointed out how silly your video was, then you became hostile towards me, stop turning this on me.
I'm sorry you can't handle someone criticizing your testimony, however, if you cannot take this, I suggest you do not leave events like this out for public scrutiny.
I even apologized numerous times however it's clear that you are unable to accept any point of view other than your own. I'm not saying that your closed minded, i'm merely pointing out that you are intolerant of others.
I'm intolerant of you, now please stop posting.
Okay Kurt, you're right... I'll stop posting now! :-D
I can't stop posting!!! :lol:
Maybe i'll go and check out some other posts in the forum now instead of only reading one and posting 15 times in it...
The fact is, I have read many topics, and I am currently partaking in a discussion in one of those. However, a discussion cannot take place where only one party has the ability to express oneself. You clearly are opposed to my partaking in that discussion. That is fine, however, editing my posts is not the smart, mature thing to do. Any reasonable adult would merely ignore the post, or at least debate it. You have chosen to erase what I have previously posted, perhaps because you are intimidated by someone who does not blindly believe everything you say and do. I do not get why you are behaving in such a childish manner, what have I done other than question your experiences? Is that so bad?
I would presume you are going to edit this post too, but before you do, do you mind expressing your opinions? Being childish and fiercely opposing others for no apparent reason is not the most intelligent course of action.
Let's see how childish you act after a group of over 30 gray entities abduct do, take control of your mind and make you write letters to all your loved ones telling them that you are ready to 'ascend' to the the 4th density level and leave this planet for good.
These beings controlled my emotions for almost two days straight and then controlled my body and I was nearly killed... Sorry, but I guess that's why I may not be acting like myself. I will need some time to get over this experience.
I know for a fact now that there is a hideous program taking place as we speak to locate and kill the indigo and crystal children here on earth. Why?
They help to anchor in the new era, it’s that simple. Those in control of this world know they are a threat.
This really reminds me of a story...
I had a friend back in highschool, she was from Malaysia originally. She recounted a story to me about her life and why her family originally left Malaysia.
Anyways, she was convinced that she was the reincarnated Buddha... and her family had to leave Malaysia otherwise they would kill her and her family.
The reality of the situation was that she was the oldest in a family of about 6 children and felt pretty under-appreciated and pretty lonely too... not to mention that Asian parents are SUPER HARD on their children to succeed, so she created this story to make herself feel more important, more special... successful. She truly, 100% believed it. I went along with it at the time because who was I to pop the only thing in her life that was worth something to her?
In any case, she's doing awesome now... last I heard she was married and well on her way to her own happy family.
Don't let go of those things that make you feel special, but just realize where it all comes from and don't let yourself get carried away with it.
I wish this was a delusion that I made up to make myself feel special...
I belong to a group of experienced astral projectors. EVERY single one of them described seeing the exact same thing at noon on saturday. A large group of small gray beings attaching themselves to me, feeding on me, and somehow cloaking me from the 3rd density. I was completely gone from this place, not in control of anything.
Without there help and the help from the Lemurian's I am certain I would not be here now.
These posts actually remind me of the whole '2012, end of the world, doomsday approaching, the start of a new Era' theory..
I'm just trying to figure out how to fly to the stars in a ship, not end the world! :-D
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 22, 2010, 12:56:21
I wish this was a delusion that I made up to make myself feel special...
I imagine she felt the same way.
But meh...
Go have your fun. :)
Kurt, mind all the skeptics as this is only an astral projection forum so must dont have much knowledge. I believe all your stories and I'm very grateful of you sharing them. I'm happy that were able to break away from the darkside and the control they had you under.. Them targeting you shows that your of great importance to us all! :)
dont go away anytime soon!!
Perhaps there will come a time when you will see what I can see and then understand what is going on. This is the beginning of a war. Beings with tremendous power are very upset with what has been going on here and they are about to step in. I am prepared to join them in the fight against these beings (grays), who believe that they have the right to take us from this place.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 22, 2010, 13:21:24
Perhaps there will come a time when you will see what I can see and then understand what is going on. This is the beginning of a war. Beings with tremendous power are very upset with what has been going on here and they are about to step in. I am prepared to join them in the fight against these beings (grays), who believe that they have the right to take us from this place.
hmm i think ive read of this war. This was something from 2007 but it said that we as humans have to fight them off because the higher beings couldnt interfere or something like that. But this is very good news that we're going to get assistance because we wouldn't of been able to fight them off with 99% of our population spiritually retarded.
2008 is when the 'Smiley Faced Murders' started happening. They have been targeting all of the Indago / Crystal children but many didn't know who was doing it because they did not survive.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 22, 2010, 13:31:53
2008 is when the 'Smiley Faced Murders' started happening. They have been targeting all of the Indago / Crystal children but many didn't know who was doing it because they did not survive.
http://www.collegenews.com/index.php?/article/theories_on_smiley_face_murders_resurface_again_0323099393/
it seems it started in 1997?
I guess you're right but I wonder if they leave smiley faces every time?
This sounds to me more like a person, cult or a group of sick-minded people killing all these people..?
The comment up there /\ (sorry, I'm new to this) mentioned that this is an Astral Projection forum, and that's why we have little knowledge about this kind of stuff, and I agree. Why not post this info somewhere more relevant? :-)
I'm not insulting anybody here, IMO this whole thing seems a little far-fetched, but there are many things beyond our understanding, however if you were to introduce this stuff to the people who are interested in this, you may recieve more info and responses that you are looking for.
I apologize for my criticism, but we are all entitled to our own opinions, yes? :-) All the best!
Not too many people will believe what I have to say regarding this experience and I understand that. To be honest I would like nothing more than to forget this ever happened and move on. All of my experiences with these grays are on my website and I suppose in time people will find it if they're interested.
Eff that other guy Kurt, I believe you. Once I had an experience where a demon stood around in my room tapping on stuff and trying to scare me, ultimately raising the levels of bad energy in my room and I woke up to turn on the light and I felt a physical hand on my face push me into my bed and I heard a sucking kind of sound, almost like a grabage disposal I suppose but at the same time I could hear, whether phsically or telepathically I'm not sure, this demon telling me that I wasn't going anywhere. I started to pray and commanded him to leave and he did. But, it took me about four months to sleep with the light/tv off again. I am almost positive that nobody believed me, even my own stepfather made fun of me. These things are crazy, unbelievable and not of this world and people have been trained to not believe. So I feel you're pain, I thought I was going to die, and everybody thought it was video games and bad tv making me delusional. I'm glad you're OK, still with us.
Yea, those video games and TV can be pretty dangerous! :-D
I wish it would have only been one demon because then I would have kicked the crap out of him! But these guys are drones that are controlled by the hive mind and have no choice but to follow his commands. This guy probably just sits back far away and watches as these little gray guys team up on me. I have heard of several of them paralyzing individuals but never as many as 30... Guess I must be pretty strong! :-D
See? There are always positives to take in lol you would have kicked the crap out of a demon? That's craziness, how do you do that? That's been one of my fears since I started. I know it resides in my house to some extent and I wouldn't want to run into him on the way back to my body :-(
But if I could kick the crap out of him, I'd WANT him to be there haha
I have been practicing martial arts and energy body development for several years. I use powerful energy attacks to obliterate them into nothingness! :-D
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5971/dsc03910.jpg
Mista Kurty, check your inbox.
Quote from: joel1212 on February 22, 2010, 13:27:27
hmm i think ive read of this war. This was something from 2007 but it said that we as humans have to fight them off because the higher beings couldnt interfere or something like that. But this is very good news that we're going to get assistance because we wouldn't of been able to fight them off with 99% of our population spiritually retarded.
Of course you've "read of this war".
People have been coming to forums like these for YEARS spouting this kind of thing.
I've never once seen a single claim come to fruition though.
All these claims always come from people trying to make their lives seem/feel more grandiose than they actually are.
What kind of evidence are you looking for Xanth?
Bodies of dead grays to start piling up in the middle of downtown Manhattan? It's not my fault you can't see into the 4th density. Maybe if you spent more time training instead of criticizing others you would have the proof you wanted.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 14, 2010, 19:30:05
If you'll notice above there is a little 'o' in the second paragraph. The gray told me that this a point where the 3rd and 4th density levels meet. I thought it was a typo at first and tried fixing it for about 5 minutes while he sat there laughing! grin Try highlighting it with your mouse and see if anything happens.
"Come now, Kurt, it's an effect of how the forum formats bracketed code. You should know this!"
"Of course
Yamabushi
What was I thinking!"
You get caught out with BS and then have the audacity to keep posting more?
Although some people "swallow it without question!", so i see why you carry on. Kinda reminds me of this
--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lvU-DislkI
I have the audacity because it's the truth. And to me it doesn't matter how crazy or unbelievable something is, as long as it is the TRUTH.
And oh yea luu... You kinda remind me of this: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2393/2073960013_85c5bab32f.jpg
I guess I'm still baffled that people refuse to believe that the grays are here. There have been over a million reported cases of encounters and abductions and I guess these people are just making all these stories up for attention... That must mean that everyone here is also making up all these stories about encountering beings in the Astral plane. The grays are of the 4th density (RTZ) a realm VERY closely related to the Astral Plane but much more 'real'.
Soon many of you will be venturing out into this part of the galaxy and you will encounter beings similar to the ones I have been meeting. I want you all to be prepared for when that day comes. I try hard not to let idiots like luu and Jerry_Teps get me down but if you could feel the pain and horrible emotion that I have felt over the past couple of days perhaps you would understand. From here on in I believe it's going to get weirder and weirder, so I've decided to stop posting my encounters with the grays on this forum. If you are interested you can follow along on my website.
My only advice for you guys is to be careful when you get out in the area of space where the grays reside (The 4th density). Never trust them for a second and always question there actions.
I believe in kurtykurt and i've read his website. there is also a group of people who believe that the ET's are with us already and some claim that soon they will make contact with us. here is the link which you could join for free to better understand them. http://innercoredaystarcommand.ning.com/
There's people who disbelieve and there are people who have the experience to know otherwise. I never believed in astral projection until the first time I watched my girlfriend wake me up and saw myself, it scared the living hell out of me seeing myself on a bed, it was very quick and very vague but I know that I was above my body and watching my girlfriend shake me awake.
Kurt, grays f*cked with you and YOU saw it, enough said. This is a spiritual forum, we are all supposed to do our best to get along and support each other, I'm new here and I know that. So, let's not fight anymore. I don't quite understand the whole war/fighting with grays and entities and humans but you know what? I know there is more out there than the physical world we live in. As a matter of fact, the majority of, if not all of the people on here, know that. Otherwise, Astral Pulse would have no purpose.
I am mad at the grays but they have made me stronger. I am sad that they have been killing the 'indago children' and other people that may pose a threat to there plans. This 'war' is to prevent them from killing any more of the young people on this planet that will be able to make a BIG difference in the future. The grays are afraid of the power we have and how much more powerful we will become. They are eliminating the threat now to prevent there species from being wiped out later.
If the Greys are killing people that are a threat to them then wouldn't the people be an even bigger threat because if they die then they'll be in the astral permanently (or until they're reincarnated) where they can practice battling so they'll be even stronger when they do battle the Greys?
The grays can erase your memory and make you believe as if they helped you 'ascend'. You will wake up in the 4th density on a white table with a bunch of nice little grays around you helping you through the ordeal. They will then guide you into the astral or mental planes where you can wonder around for the next decade. Some of the grays might actually believe that they are helping these humans but the ones at the top know that they are murdering our young people one by one.
It's too bad your going to stop posting here but I'll check up on the website for updates on your experiences. I have a feeling that tells me your a speical person and your information is very valueable.
I'm an indigo child (24-25 on the test, lol) and I'm 17 years old so I could very well be target. I was also thinking maybe they go for the ones that arn't "awake" to this all and will follow them easily.
Several light workers have told me that I'm a 'crystal child'. Now I know why I have so many crystals! :lol:
You very well could be a target... Hope you don't live in the midwest like me. That is where they have been targeting most of the individuals they have taken away from this planet.
kurtykurt have you know anyone they have murdered? what are we suppose to do then in order to stop them?
I have been following along on the news at all the 'smiley faced murders'. I don't know any of them personally but take a look at this image of the victims:
(http://www.childseeknetwork.com/oldsite/collegeboys2.jpg)
Every single one of them was found dead in a river in the midwest / East coast with this smiley face near them.
(http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/smileyface.jpg)
A map of the locations where all the bodies where found:
(http://surfdete.ipower.com/smileyface/newusmap3.jpg)
wow! you really should be careful. Why are they doing this? why do the ET's think that they're going to be wiped out if humans become knowledgeable?
I don't think they're worried about getting 'wiped up' but they may be worried about becoming 'lower' than the humans of this world. Over the next decade there are going to be many changes on this planet and the grays / reptilians, I guess don't want to see us become more powerful then them. They have ruled this galaxy for thousands of years and now there reign of terror is almost at and end.
Quote from: mon9999 on February 23, 2010, 01:19:26
what are we suppose to do then in order to stop them?
There were about 30 of them trying to take me and I was saved by a very large man with a sword that chopped them to bits. I never heard so many grays all cursing at once! I could here popping sounds and fibers and heads being severed. With the help of my Lemurian seed crystals I felt the presence of a powerful women helping me to re-balance my chakras. I held my largest crystal to my heart and called out to the Ancients of Lemuria to please bring back up and help save me.
(http://images.epilogue.net/users/sevencrows/angel.jpg)
perhaps you should teach everyone how to summon that being who saved you. lol are all indigo and rainbow people this cute? lmao! :-D
A member from my group spent 30 minutes summoning him, his name is Archangel Michael. Without his help I surely believe I would not be here typing.
I think humans are food for reptilians. Specifically children. That accounts for the millions that go missing. They live inside underground, right under us. Once we become more evolved they will die off and they are fighting now very hard to keep us from evolving.. I also think grey's and reptilians exist in our dimension and they use technology to travel into the astral. instead of their primary density being the 4th. Their vibrations are too low.
oh so you have ET friends too? that oppose to the plans of other ET's to kill humans?
My group is here on this planet and they are all unbelievably gifted light workers. And the Lemurians are 6th density interdimensional beings that I have been communicating with for over a year now.
Quote from: joel1212 on February 23, 2010, 01:48:29
I think humans are food for reptilians. Specifically children. That accounts for the millions that go missing. They live inside underground, right under us. Once we become more evolved they will die off and they are fighting now very hard to keep us from evolving.. I also think grey's and reptilians exist in our dimension and they use technology to travel into the astral. instead of their primary density being the 4th. Their vibrations are too low.
They do exist in our dimension but the vast majority of them are 4th density I believe. The grays have very physically weak bodies and could easily get killed if they were to get in a fight with humans. The reptilians on the other hand... You should probably run for your life if you see one of those guys! :lol:
so reptillians is our enemies and the grays are our friends?
I would have to say that neither of them are our 'friends'. But if I had to pick a side I would probably go with the grays.
what are we suppose to do to stop them?
If you haven't already begun, start energy body development training. The love energy from your heart chakra and higher chakras is enough to take these guys down for good. I have been using large crystal spheres to raise my energy to the next level. The elder of the grays has been training me and teaching me the techniques I need to survive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cixsk3nbII
can you teach us how you do it? whats that dragonball stance?
It's called shaolin kung fu and is a form of martial arts used in china for over 1,500 years. The Shaolin monks are regarded as being the most powerful martial artists in the world. I practice my martial arts training every morning for about an hour and watch different instructional DVD's on Kung Fu / Karate / Tae Kwon do / Tae Chi.
Raising your energy to the level that I am at now can't just be taught to some one... You must train every day for years before you can reach this level.
* let me know if you can feel a tingling / heat in your chest & hands when you watch the video. My group told me that they can 'feel' and sense the enormous amount of power that I am generating.
The pretty lady can probably explain it to you better than I can! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt4ftvHq8wY&feature=related
what is your level? :?
LOL! It's just a figure of speech... In martial arts they use belts to indicate the individuals 'level' of progress.
There are levels far beyond mine that masters have achieved throughout history.
if its not too much to ask can you post those instructions on youtube? :-)
You mean the instructions to perform the technique I am using in the video?
greys actually complain about being killed by humans. Heh
I'm interested in reptiles, though. Everyone in our galaxy has nasty thoughts and intentions. Reptiloids are the only ones who can say it out loud while everyone else hides it
I think I might invest in a good Samurai sword to protect myself against any reptilians that might be coming after me for what we did to all the grays this weekend. :-D
yes exactly kurt :-D
Are there any other questions you have mon9999? Or have I pretty much covered everything! :-D
oh well thanx! lol :-D please keep us updated for your new discoveries :-)
Kurt, I've come across people like you ever since I started posting on forums such as these.
They all have one thing in common: They're all attention-deprived.
I hate to say this to ya because you must feel the need for it and I don't like bursting people's bubbles... but you're nobody special.
You're no "chosen one"... I've seen hundreds of people who felt that they were a "chosen one".
I highly suggest you talk to someone... go outside, get some friends.
You need help.
Your smiley face murders are nothing more than drunks who fell in water and drowned.
Don't you think that's a lot more plausible than aliens kidnapping them and killing them?
Occam's Razor, dude.
The worst part is that you have an audience here, some of which, want to believe you so badly that they're willing to believe just about anything you type out. This isn't healthy folks.
i dont mean to sound mean or nasty but i do agree wit xanth
you helped me understand something tho...you see my cosuin is a psychoologist and everytime me and her went for dinner we would always come on to topics about her work.... she said one time a man believed he was jesus and so was sectioned.
i said to her "nicola i think thats unfair because what a man believes has nothing to do with his sanity. i dont see you locking people up because there christian or muslim and yet thats a belief"
she replied that there is nothing wrong wit beliving as long as your not a risk to others or yourself.
i never understood this for a long time until i eventually seen these posts.
no offence meant mate.
its just firstly your totally dillusional about this...period.
that in itself is bad for you but now you got other people beliving this stuff which makes it worse
sorry mate but xanths right
Yeah I have to agree with the two guys above me... this story doesn't add up. Mind control? Conspiracy murders? Kicking alien butt on the weekend? I think we've crossed the line from astral projection into dogmatic fantasy.
do some research guys :-(
The deeper the stories go, the more hardcore the believers become, and the more upset disbelievers get. Just like a real organized religion!
Seriously though, this is similar to Scientology. The AP machine being the e-meter. It even has controlling aliens and stories worth being sci-fi novels, just like Hubbard did.
I think we're close to the point where you either believe it or not, slight skepticism won't do.
Seriously, this isn't the place to talk about this stuff, this is an Astral Projection forum.. All of that stuff sounds ridiculous. Read it from our perspectives.. Please move this before things get crazier!
A person's process is a person's process . .
Because the title of this thread is "Ascension" I take it that Ascension energies are being felt and experienced by the participants here ( ? ). Each of us is going to integrate these energies through our being, through who we are -meaning uniquely -they are going to look a little different through everyone. Through Kurt the process looks the way it does, through me it looks the way it does, through you it looks the way it does.. One thing I have learned thus far, is noone's process is any more or less delusional than anyone's. We are all trying to integrate these energies, and we are all doing the best we can, forums like this where we can all come together and actually experience the kaleidoscope first hand is priceless. Xanth is right, though, let's all help each other stay grounded. Getting outdoors, in the sun, in nature, and being in company with other people is important. Lots of water.....
sometimes I start to regain faith in this forum. Then the mods show up
Quote from: zareste on February 23, 2010, 13:18:46
sometimes I start to regain faith in this forum. Then the mods show up
i lol'd in class
This thread is a bit disheartening for new members. I for one feel a bit reluctant to AP now I have heard about these 'killer gray aliens'
I hope for my own safety that your making this up.
Quote from: avenged7x on February 23, 2010, 14:38:15
This thread is a bit disheartening for new members. I for one feel a bit reluctant to AP now I have heard about these 'killer gray aliens'
I hope for my own safety that your making this up.
My advice is ignore what you're reading in this thread and venture forth into the universe with love. :)
Quote from: avenged7x on February 23, 2010, 14:38:15
This thread is a bit disheartening for new members. I for one feel a bit reluctant to AP now I have heard about these 'killer gray aliens'
I hope for my own safety that your making this up.
I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Plenty of people project without being harmed by greys or reptilians or anything else you can think of.
Quote from: Xanth on February 23, 2010, 14:59:10
My advice is ignore what you're reading in this thread and venture forth into the universe with love. :)
Seconded.
Quote from: Xanth on February 23, 2010, 14:59:10My advice is ignore what you're reading in this thread and venture forth into the universe with love. :)
I'd advise that too. It'll help get you out of the way
It's really too bad that you can't find it in your heart to believe me.
My contact with these gray ones is very real and soon I hope will you will understand the truth.
Quote from: zareste on February 23, 2010, 13:18:46
sometimes I start to regain faith in this forum. Then the mods show up
lol... the "mods"...
yep, that's what we call them around here
Quote from: zareste on February 23, 2010, 15:52:29
yep, that's what we call them around here
Stookie is probably a Grey, anyways. ;)
Xanth and the others here believe that I need I am 'attention deprived' and want others to follow me. This couldn't be further from the truth. To be honest I wouldn't have cared if a single person didn't respond to this thread.
I am here to try and help you people, don't you understand. I don't want what has happened to me to happen to you. But if you are going to criticize me and belittle me then when the time comes, and you need help from entities such as these... I will be no where to be found.
look kurt we were not trying to belittle you.
you say your trying to help us but we dont understand you said. well we are trying to help you to by telling you it might just be all in your head and its worth talking to someone but just as we dont understand you also dont understand
but all in all like i said we were not trying to belittle you and in saying that i think we shoould just conclude the argument in this post that
on oneside we think you need to talk to someone
on they other side you and followers belive it all really
and since its concluded no one has the need to continue this debate about wwether its real or in your head and so we should all just stop the arguing and debating on that subject to save each others feelings
cause after all we are all part of this forum and all have common belives and so to continue this debate and build tension and bad feelings between each other would just be stupid.
so kurt am not gonna say anything more on this topic and am sorry if it hurt your feelings i just wanted to bring to your attention what i thought was right
kurt who is that in your picture on members pics 2006
see you all later
Did it occur to you that people believe what I am saying because it is the truth?
I am a part of a group of like minded individuals that have been helping me to recover from this terrible ordeal. This experience has made me stronger and I have learned a lot from it.
I'm just wondering as I read this post, why do they only take americans? What I mean (and no offense) is wouldn't they take people from all around the world instead of just one section of one country? They can have access to any place...
What makes you think that they don't take others from around the world?
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 23, 2010, 01:24:34
I have been following along on the news at all the 'smiley faced murders'. I don't know any of them personally but take a look at this image of the victims:
(http://www.childseeknetwork.com/oldsite/collegeboys2.jpg)
Every single one of them was found dead in a river in the midwest / East coast with this smiley face near them.
(http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/smileyface.jpg)
A map of the locations where all the bodies where found:
(http://surfdete.ipower.com/smileyface/newusmap3.jpg)
There aren't any other "Smiley Face Killers" cases in other countries
They are probably smart enough not to leave smiley faces...
Xanth said that these individuals drowned 'accidently '. All of these young men were college educated and very intelligent. Do you REALLY believe that while walking back to their dorm room from the bars they somehow accidently winded up in rivers miles away? If we don't open our eyes to the truth, and understand what is really going on here many more individuals will continue to die, of that I am certain.
- - -
A response on the incident from the leader of my group:
" After discussing the incident with several people on the forum I belong to, I'm curious to know how 'real' you think the entities where that attacked me? Many people feel that I'm delusional, need help and that the entire event happened in my head. They feel that I am making these stories up to get attention. "
You are in good company Kurt. Even Tesla had contact with the Gray ones. I can not produce the reference for that but I do remember it clearly.
My wife tells me not to speak of it openly. If you do, get used to ignoring others doubts. Like with most meditation experience, no one would believe this stuff if it didn't happen to them. Best to avoid heated arguements over it.
Having Tony , I, and Ron to to confirm this stuff is a plus for you. When all of us say the same, that is a historic event for conscious sliders. I always offer my "perceptions" and never claim they are fact for everyone. Three of us doing that, and have it match your story, for me is enough proof it's real. This is a rare event.
You are way ahead of your age group on this.
Bottom line for me, the direct experience leaves little doubt. To those who want to believe without such experience, there is no proof for them....yet.
kurt you say
"Do you REALLY believe that while walking back to their dorm room from the bars they somehow accidently winded up in rivers miles away? If we don't open our eyes to the truth, and understand what is really going on here many more individuals will continue to die, of that I am certain.
"
ok so if a man was a new graduate from university and walked out into a middle of the road drunk with an intent on getting across the road and a car going over the speed limit hit him.
oh wait a second! damn that man could nt of been hit by a car he was too smart! he was a UNI GRADUATE!!!!
that sounds exactly the same like you put the other one.
you said how could they drown if there smart lol
so now are you also concluding that all smart people can swim? mabye then your answer will be more correct as you could say. all smart people can swim so how can they drowned lmao
but no not all smart people can swim kurt lol
ok so in your "investigation " how have you come to conclude that the smiley face killers were "aliens" or w/e
also how have you had good enough evidence to take away other case scenarios
for example " a group of kids went camping and had a boating trip and drowned"
"haha a college guy hired a "prostitute and went for a quicky in the woods and died"
" a college guy and girl fancied a walk in the woods"
ok so now on one side i have the more rational conclusions and kurt you have the dillusional one
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm at the minute i dont believe you but at the weekend i ll see if i can get any acid or tips so i ll be dillusional and hulcinate like you
kurt d the walls also move in your world?
kurt are you neo from the matrix lmao?
its just getting boring now
Did it occur to you that people believe what I am saying because it is the truth?
This is an open forum and if you post topics such as these, you are opening yoursf up to criticism. Why does everybody have to believe you? People are not belittling you by showing a differ in opinion. Who cares? What you believe should not be pushed onto others, and if somebody just doesn't believe the same things as you, there is nothing you can say to change their minds. All in all, you seem like an enchanting person who is very polite and nothing but nice, but it seems like your pushing beliefs onto others, trying to force people that you are the only one who can help them fight these 'grays'.. :|
Boy, my faith in the forum is taking a dive.
I've learned that people like to call themselves skeptics because otherwise nobody would believe them. See, it's easy to doubt someone who is in a frenzy defending themselves, but hard to doubt a witless doofus who says "I'm skeptical of whatever this stuff is"
Yea mine too... I guess some people just are not ready for what's out there. They would rather live in their nice little fantasy world where they know everything and believe that astral projection is a fun way to explore the magical astral realms. The sad truth is that the lower astral realms and 4th density layers are not nice places to be. They are filled with MANY terrible beings with extraordinary power. And if you people don't pull you're heads out of the sand soon, this race just might end up going the way of the dinosaur.
Whatever you guys say i do believe in kurt! why? because i have consulted a lot of psychics and almost all of them agreed that greys and reptilians are here with us and alien abductions do occur, one of them is a famous psychic from Brooklyn NY, her name is Ellie Crystal from www.crystalinks.com and she saw the same spiral symbol that kurt has made in his website. I don't think that kurt is trying to catch some attention! if you read his website and you have done some extensive researching about greys and reptilians too then you will realize that kurt is trying to put all the pieces together! :x LOVE AND LIGHT :x
jUST LOOK AT THE CROP CIRCLE MESSAGES AND THE INCREASING UFO SIGHTINGS EACH YEAR
#1. So these 'grays' put smiley faces near all of their victims in ONE country, and don't bother doing it in other countries because they're so smart? ooookkk....
#2. Next to nobody has had an experience with them but you? mmmmkk...
#3. You edited the posts of people who are questioning you, asking serious questions about what you're telling everybody?...uuhh, k..
#4. WE would rather live in a fantasy world? .. lol
#5. You obviously have been studying these topics for a long time, before they 'tried to control your mind', is it possible that you perhaps did so much studying on this subject that at the rough point in your life you started believing all of this stuff was happening to you?
#6. You are acting like you're 'the saviour' or something and.. I know you won't like to hear this, but I'm sure some people are thinking too - reminds me of how cults are created and what the leaders make everybody believe.
#7. The higher power cannot help us? And why on Earth would they not be able to help us? Our higher selves are all that is, it is Source, always was and forever will be. The most powerful thing in the Universe.
I do not doubt the existance of other beings in our solar system and Universe, or the crop circles or UFO sightings, but a group of 4th density grays trying to take over the minds of people, and the higher power not being able to help? Basically nobody being able to help except YOU? If you're going to start telling people stuff like this you better have some damn good evidence to back it up. When people disagree with you, you act like we are all foolish and bullying you. This reminds me of the time that woman interviewed that' lizard woman' who wouldn't allow her to take pictures..
Again, I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying what are the chances, really? Kind of ironic isn't it.
Yea mine too... I guess some people just are not ready for what's out there. They would rather live in their nice little fantasy world where they know everything and believe that astral projection is a fun way to explore the magical astral realms.
You have nearly ruined Astral Projection for some of the newer members. Now not only are you feeding people information that sounds completely insane, you are insulting the people who disagree with you.
That is beyond rude. You have no right to say 'my way or the highway', some people don't agree with you, DEAL WITH IT.
It doesn't mean that we are 'living in our little fantasy world', it means we DON'T BELIEVE THE SAME THINGS.
Ok this is the last time I'll be posting on this thread just to point some things out that don't make any sense to me.
QuoteThey are probably smart enough not to leave smiley faces...
but yet, they do?
QuoteI wrote letters to all of my loved ones and left notes in my house for all of my belongins to go to the ones I love.
My mind was altered by these grays and I became a different person (turned to the dark side). I don't know how but they were able to control my emotions and then control my actions.
Why would they do that if they could just banish you like the rest? why weren't the others warned and why would they leave you go with SUCH information? What I mean here is, they "have" the power of doing it even faster and more efficient than the government (and government acts pretty fast)
QuoteWhat makes you think that they don't take others from around the world?
Haven't seen such a pattern anywhere else and also because you said it yourself:
QuoteThe grays also explained to me that they have been secretly ascending individuals to the 4th density. The media calls them the 'Smiley Face Killers' and bodies of young, college educated white males from the midwest have been found floating in rivers.
And then again, I don't think they would waste time "explaining", what for???
Seriously, no offense, it just doesn't make sense, it's not that I deny the existance of other beings, I've seen a ufo myself, but this doesn't match up for obvious reasons I've pointed above.
Dude, it's not that I don't believe you, I completely believe that YOU believe that what's happening to you is real. Also, I never once called you "Delusional"... nor would I ever call anyone that. YOU chose to use the word "delusional", not me, I just want to make that point crystal clear.
Now, you obviously like shows and ideas like DBZ and Star Wars... you've made that perfectly clear throughout the many months you've been posting here, also I've seen your youtube videos. Trust me... we've noticed, kinda hard not to really. All of your experiences are clearly clouded by this desire you seem to have for power and a strong desire to be accepted. This probably stems from some kind of lack of parenting or not being accepted among your peers (school or whatever)... or both.
I actually do like you, Kurt, regardless what you may think. You make some great contributions here on Astral Pulse and I've seen you personally help dozens of new posters.
In the end, I think you and I are probably pretty similar people and would most likely get along very well in real life. I think I've read most of the same stuff on these topics that you have and I also enjoy a good DBZ season as much as the next guy (that Frieza saga was a little drawn out, eh? ;))... where we differ is that I don't let it colour my perception of the world around me, physically or metaphysically. While you have let it and the desire behind it absolutely control you, figuratively AND literally.
So, as I said, I do fully believe everything you've said... I believe that YOU believe that what's happening to you is real. That's the power of our mind and mix that with astral projection... and you've got some trouble here.
I would just like to point out one thing about your 2nd youtube video...
All that "gotta take a crap really badly" "powering up" you're doing? It's actually holding you back by blocking your energy more than anything... I'll explain.
While you *can* raise energy that way (you can raise energy in a myrad of ways, as you well know), it's slow because you're all tense. Also, when your tense you're actually blocking yourself from FEELING the energy. If you really did train in the martial arts, you'd know this. You can raise a hell of a lot more energy (and faster) by staying calm, centered and relaxed.
For a martial artist, it's much easier to move the energy of an attacker who is full of anger and is really tensed... a small movement on my part will literally send a person flying. On the flip side, being tense yourself, you can't feel the subtle changes in their weight as they attack you that require you to make the small changes needed to defend yourself. One must stay fully relaxed and centered at all times.
Sorry if this was a tad long... I'll try to leave this thread alone. No promises though, I hate lying. LoL ;)
Eh... I think I'm done with this post!
>_<
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on February 23, 2010, 16:03:57
Xanth and the others here believe that I need I am 'attention deprived' and want others to follow me. This couldn't be further from the truth. To be honest I wouldn't have cared if a single person didn't respond to this thread.
I am here to try and help you people, don't you understand. I don't want what has happened to me to happen to you. But if you are going to criticize me and belittle me then when the time comes, and you need help from entities such as these... I will be no where to be found.
I believe you man, im going to be following your website so keep the progress posted! :)
Quote from: missym on February 24, 2010, 11:49:30
#2. Next to nobody has had an experience with them but you? mmmmkk...
i strongly suggest doing some research
Missy has come up with quite a wild story there. She could write a book
me too I believe in KURT and I'll be following your website
I guess it wasn't a bad idea moving this post to the 2012 board. Many people believe that we may 'ascend' in the next decade (around 2012) and this experience (or something similar) is one that many others may some day have.