Anyone ever see the film, "The Fountain"?

[Stillwater]

It was made in 2006 by this Darren Aronofsky fellow- he also made "Requiem for a Dream" (which I felt was just sorta' disturbed, lol).

It does not directly deal with the 2012 event, but it does largely involve the Mayans, and the "Tree of life"; I am sure he was probably inspired by the hype that has surrounded the Mayans and the 2012 idea since the 70s, and has come to a peak in the 90s, and to a fever pitch today.

In this film, the Tree of life is depicted as both the astronomical phenomenon, and also as a physical tree that grants anti-aging benefits, that is meant to be both the embodiment of the Mayan concept and the Judeo-Christian one. The main character, sustained by the tree until the far future, crafts a spacecraft that takes only him and the patch of land the tree is planted on to a nebula.

I found it to be an artistic rendition of concepts such as death and loss. It is a shame it was not more widely shown. While it is not directly pertaining to 2012, it is interesting to see that fascination with the Mayans has really permeated our culture today.

[Xanth]

I can say I 'saw' the movie...
Now, 'understand' it is another issue entirely.   LoL
I had to read the wiki entry to get some opinions on how to decipher it.  hehe

[zareste]

I wonder what the title 'the fountain' refers to. Just curious because I once did a sort of remote viewing back to ancient Maya and saw a fountain in front of a building that seemed to be significant (something to do with off-planet contact)

[CFTraveler]

I can say I 'saw' the movie...
Now, 'understand' it is another issue entirely.   LoL
I had to read the wiki entry to get some opinions on how to decipher it.  hehe

Ditto on that. 
My main problem with it was that it represented a  view of  Queen Isabella as completely opposite as what she did in history.  Way too romanticized, even if the visuals were interesting.

[Stillwater]

I wonder what the title 'the fountain' refers to. Just curious because I once did a sort of remote viewing back to ancient Maya and saw a fountain in front of a building that seemed to be significant (something to do with off-planet contact)

Hmm... my take is this:

When the Protagonist, as the Spanish Conquistador finally found the tree, it was at the head of a spring. The Conquistadors are said, at least in our fanciful reveries of them, to have been after, among other things, the fountain of youth; the tree in this particular spring was the the tree of life, granting anti-aging properties, so it fits.

I think the search for fountain of youth in the framed story was meant to be a metaphor for the protagonist's real-life issues with death and loss. He could not accept the fact that he was going to lose his wife, so instead of making his remaining precious time with her meaningful, he squandered it trying to find ways to circumvent the natural order of death- he was also looking for a fountain of youth.

My main problem with it was that it represented a  view of  Queen Isabella as completely opposite as what she did in history.  Way too romanticized, even if the visuals were interesting.

Indeed, historical figures are almost always romaticized to the point of absurdity. I think it is worth mentioning, though, that the depiction of her was within the framed story, which contained other fantastic elements, to tell the viewer that it was not reality per se, but his wife's fantasy drama. I thought it was funny how she was enthroned in the Cordoban Mosque- I doubt such a thing could have happened in real life, although most people probably wouldn't recognize that space.

[zareste]

Ah okay, so the fountain I saw probably wasn't related unless it was the fountain of youth or something

An odd thing happened just now as I looked up the movie. I was reading a synopsis of it while listening to the song Genesis of Aquarion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG07Bj7MWcw (which I discovered an hour ago) and when I saw a picture of the 'tree of life' from the movie, the words 'tree of life' came up in the song.

I don't pay attention to synchronized events very often, but that's a rather profound one. I wonder why this happened.

My theory on synchronized events is that they're thoughts from a wider consciousness being portrayed to an individual. My reasons for this are pretty solid (and I could explain them). if I'm right, this means this collective mind is focusing on 'the tree of life', which springs the question: Why?

The song also has the phrase 'all this time these 12,000 years' a few times and I - just for fun - looked up 'maya 12000 years'. A link said the Mayan crystal skeletons were supposedly buried 12,000 years ago

[Stillwater]

An odd thing happened just now as I looked up the movie. I was reading a synopsis of it while listening to the song Genesis of Aquarion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG07Bj7MWcw (which I discovered an hour ago) and when I saw a picture of the 'tree of life' from the movie, the words 'tree of life' came up in the song.

I don't pay attention to synchronized events very often, but that's a rather profound one. I wonder why this happened.

My theory on synchronized events is that they're thoughts from a wider consciousness being portrayed to an individual. My reasons for this are pretty solid (and I could explain them). if I'm right, this means this collective mind is focusing on 'the tree of life', which springs the question: Why?

The song also has the phrase 'all this time these 12,000 years' a few times and I - just for fun - looked up 'maya 12000 years'. A link said the Mayan crystal skeletons were supposedly buried 12,000 years ago

Izmane komese konesu, KALA aheshi NO MAI! lol.... gotta love Jpop.

I can't find the phrase "tree of life" in the song ("there is came into my life") ,and the 12,000 years thing could be a coincidence (there could be many such dates associated with the Maya).

Even so, I do know the feeling when a song that you are listening to for utterly unrelated reasons, or even surely at random, spits out a lyrics that contains the same phase, or a paraphrase of something you are reading in an article or something. It has happened maybe three or four times to me too, and I remember thinking that the chances were astronomical against such an occurence, because these phrases weren't everyday ideas. They are indeed the sort of radically-against-chance events that would suggest alternative explantions. What you suggested does not sound entirely implausible.

[zareste]

ah, the 'tree of life' thing was in the original version (which is quite a bit less pop-like). And yeah the 12000 years thing doesn't have to have meaning

[Stillwater]

I still agree though, that such events are quite significant.

Little things, if they are persistent and repeatable, are among the most relevant aspects a world view must explain.

For instance, Princeton University had a long-lasting program which just ended, called project PEAR (Princeton engineering anomolies research).

The results of this program was the finding that human intention alone could affect random events in nature on average about 3 times out of 10,000. Now this number seems pretty insignificant, but there were literally millions of trials over decades, with and without people, and the same results just about always held. Analyists concluded that such results had a several billion to one probability of occuring by chance.

So this is such a modest result, but it persists and is repeatable, and as such, requires an answer.