i dont know what it is. but it happened yesterday, where a wave of darkness has clouded my timeline and everyone elses. its prolly not related to maya, so feel free to move it. but last time i got a sense of foreboding half as strong as this, 2 weeks later i went to a psych ward, was arrested, betrayed by my family, and thrown out of school. this one is so much stronger, and has blocked my ability to see into the future. i cant see what will happen to me, or anyone else. and i cant remember where my memories come from. i remember things, and on the outside, i act normal, but inside, i feel cold and alone. like a cosmic loneliness. and alien feeling. like being out in space by yourself. i dont know how long its going to last, but i can see it clearly. the last one i got was a black mist. this one is a floating sludge, black/purple, and inpenetrable. i dont know what it means, if its just for my life, or everyone elses, but it seems to cover all the timelines.
you can see into the future?
what will happen in 2012?
Yes it is a protective seal. Do not be afraid. You should have found it lifted this morning?
Love,
N
Check out erynys or is it synyre's sig...? I read this post yesterday and all that kept running through my mind was how some people seem to go through life embracing the negative. Not just embracing but searching for it, living for it, and keeping it alive within their reality.
Why?
Ya know, the older I get the more my body shows me little signs that I'm not the young chicken I used to be. Take walking down the stairs first thing this morning.. LOL. Now... ask yourself, would you blame those little kinks in your body to be normal, then shake your head, laugh and continue down the stairs, or would you immediately search for the salt to go bathe in because you think you are being attacked by something or there is some new wave of darkness issue happening? And have you noticed you call it a new wave? What? the old one not valid anymore??
Do you ever stop for a second and consider seeing the glass half full instead of always half empty? Do you ever stop for a second and consider NOT thinking about the feeling of depressions when you think they are covering you? If you can't control it, then I think a visit back to the local doctor is in order. There is nothing shamful or harmful about GETTING BETTER.
I don't know... this fad of thinking if you've had mental issue means you are psychic and makes you closer to all things paranormal (real or not) is one step closer to having a lot more shootings at schools and colleges.
My opinions of course.
Quote from: NaomiChan on April 21, 2007, 09:03:19
Yes it is a protective seal. Do not be afraid. You should have found it lifted this morning?
Love,
N
Welcome to the AP forums. Care to elaborate on your comment?
i think it has been lifted. my abilties are still cloudy though. and 2012 isnt going to be a huge battle. i dont think. im basing this on what i remember. what i see is a timeline. i look at people, or within myself, and i see a timeline, like railroad tracks. they're grey on a bluish black background. i see the events on the time line as swirls of energy, much like a spider's nest. now i look at my timeline and its black. but i think the black is lifting. and im trying to use this time to reconstruct my timeline as i see fit. and btw, im not looking to the negative, im just very alarmed when i black mass covers my future. the last time anything like that happened, my life fell apart.
It sounds like what one would see doing certain drugs.. no offense. If you aren't doing any, then I would yet again suggest a visit to your doctor. This doesn't sound like something you should be seeing.
You need to put on some fun dance music and dance around some. And I'm sorry, but you are negative. Have a look at some of your past posts.
im not negative, i just only post here when i have problems. and my vision things of timelines arent like a physical sight thing, its an astral thing, like when you scry.
Then I would say that what you are seeing when in the astral is fear based and created by yourself.
wait, how? why do you think its fear based? and what exactly. there's nothing scary about a timeline. if ur talking about the darkness, its not my creation. i just took a peak at my timeline and holeh crap, it faded to black sludge.
erynys
Needless to say, I'm interested in what it is you are claiming. Were I to talk to other people about my experiences they would probably ask if I was taking any medication. So, I'll ask you the same thing : ) I do not mean to offend you.
People who see colours / interpret concepts as colours fascinate me.
How do you think/feel that you are able to define/recognize a timeline?
As an experiment, if you were to look at my timeline what would you see from my 'past'?
Have you tried to manipulate what it is you see/feel?
Many people are fearful of their future(s). This manifestation might have something to do with it. Have you ever seen something positive in a timeline?
I'm just trying to understand you better as I believe that your interpretation of these events is interesting to say the least.
i dont see the past. only the present and the future. i wont deny it. im not very strong, and my answers are vague and sometimes wrong. i see what i see. no im not on medication. i dont do drugs, and i dont drink alcohol very much. if youd like to know more about color cods, monday is blue, tuesday is green, wednesday is orange, thursday is purple, friday is yellow, saturday is red, and sunday is grey. :) and bt, the timeline only shows an event im looking for. so if i was to ask myself, when will my mother own a home, and a spider nest appears on her lifeline at 63 years old, then i say around 63 and tell my mother not to worry about it, because its a long way off. then she gets sad and curses at me, and tells me im going to hell for dabbling in the occult. another example is that i asked when a person i know will die, and it said 24. thats how it works. if i saw all the events, how would i know it looked like a railroad track? however, out of curiosity, i once tore a timeline open and looked under it. i saw red/orange flesh and ribs lined up in a row. it was odd.
erynys, you are a person who fascinates me, if you have Aol Instant messenger, please contact me on it, or hit up my myspace www.myspace.com/hippiegrungeboy and my AIM sn is hippiegrungeboy
erynys,
One thing I'm still curious about. Do you feel as though you are able to distinguish between physical and mental aspects or are they all the same to you?
For instance, if you wanted to know whether or not someone is going to get ill at some point in the future, would it look different from a potential bout of depression they might face as a result of it?
Would it always appear as a spider web marker?
Why do you think this kind of imagery appears as often as it does?
How clear are these images, are they so clear that there is no question about them?
I've woken up to see symbols, very clearly, rotating on a 2D axis. These things are as clear as day and there is no doubt as to what they are. Are you sure that you're not over interpreting anything?
You don't need to answer the last one as I know it might seem insulting. It's just something worth considering.
the spider thing isnt related to spider. it just looks like a spider EGG SACK because its a ball of web like energy and strings of energy holding it down to the timeline. and im not sure. ive never tried to look at things like that. i dont practice it much because i like the element of surprise in my life. but every once in a while ill take a peek.
I apologize, I am not able to expand comments...
All the best,
Naomi Chan
Quote from: erynys on April 21, 2007, 15:45:38
i think it has been lifted. my abilties are still cloudy though. and 2012 isnt going to be a huge battle. i dont think. im basing this on what i remember. what i see is a timeline. i look at people, or within myself, and i see a timeline, like railroad tracks. they're grey on a bluish black background. i see the events on the time line as swirls of energy, much like a spider's nest. now i look at my timeline and its black. but i think the black is lifting. and im trying to use this time to reconstruct my timeline as i see fit. and btw, im not looking to the negative, im just very alarmed when i black mass covers my future. the last time anything like that happened, my life fell apart.
i'm not an active member, a former jonas ridgeway forum member, i read alot of this forum and dont write, but i kinda feel i have to say this...
first i do not mean to be offensive, and sorry if i'm wrong, but this and very much most of your posts (erynys) sound...well...fake
(this one keeping millimeters away form exactly replicating the way seeing a timeline was pictured in Donnie Darko)
And one thing that confuses me alot is that you claim to have a vast expirience and abilities in magick, astral travel etc. but somehow still sound as a troubled, and depressed teenager. That kinda doesn't fit together, at least in my opinion and expirience, cause the expiriences i gained in the view of oobeing, lucid dreaming, and even some drug induced states, and the feeling of inner growth that fills you when you start to "open up" spiritually, has for sure made me a better and a very very much happier person, and made me realise some of the mistakes i've made and had been making with keeping myself depressed, heavy heavy drinking, and drug abuse.
And the funny thing is i got into OOBEs a few years before i started drinking, but about the time i was 17 i kinda kept it in my mind, but somehow i just cracked, and for the next few years just kept getting deeper into it, especially alcohol. And the sad truth is the more you drink, the more depressed you get, and the you drink even more..and it basically turns to crap, and you start to show more and more compulsive and addictive behaviour in every aspect of your life, finding every day more reasons to feel bad about yourself.
Sorry that this has got a bit long, but my point is, if you have the spiritual knowledge you claim to have, or even if you don't (wich IMHO is the case, sorry) you still are informed about it more than 70% of the worlds population, just use that knowledge to make a better life for yourself, you're the only one responsible for the way it will all turn out to be...so just reach and feel the true love inside and outside of you, it will make everything better and easier.
most of my experiences happened when i was a child, before my depression. i claim no abilties, i simply tell you what i experience. if you choose not to believe, thats fine. its not a sideshow affair where people are paying me to perform some trick. im just trying to learn as much as i can and get feedback on what i see. i loved donnie darko, but i dont recall him seeing a timeline. i remember a watery ether protruding from the chests of people, which is what i see connecting people when they are in love, except its not water, but a slightly invisible substance accompanied by a soft orange glow, or a dark red glow. but thats not the point. i am a little tired of people calling me fake, instead of giving me feedback. its very hard to learn that way, and i spend a lot of my energy responding to those accusations. i do have a tendency to learn things extremely quickly, and i am very intelligent. all of my teachers can tell you i am extremely bright. i think that because of my aptitude and intelligence, i may learn certain things a lot faster. this is only a theory of mine. i am not saying i am sure about any of it. in the future, if anyone has anything to say to me, please send me a private message instead of accusing me in the same place that i try to learn.
i'm not accusing you, sorry if it came out that way i wish you all the best, and just wish you see that there is nothing to be depressed about
and btw, you should watch donnie darko again it's almost the same to what you are describing
i prolly will. i love donnie darko. and i love jake gyllenhaal. so yeah. lol. i seriously dont remember a timeline. all i remember is the thing coming out of peeps' chests.
hi erynys :-) i don't really see how your post seem fake, but seems like you have a very active imagination. I'm not saying you making up your experiences. i just thought that because i used to have similar experiences when i was young and my imagination was in over drive :-)
i can tell the difference between imagination and reality. im not insane. ive been through that whole ordeal.
I think in some cases people think they know the difference but they are still fooling themselves.
I believe pretty much anything can happen in the astral but when it comes to the physical.. I'm not so sure. As a child I couldn't tell the difference of being in the physical or the astral, it felt so real..solid. I thought everyone played with colorful bugs and sparkling lights at night, in bed before falling asleep. And here I am years later with a light-bulb over my head saying, "Ohhhh, I wasn't in the physical plane while playing with all those insects..." :-)
hmmmm. thats NEVER happened to me. nothing like it has happened to me either.
I thought people always talked to them before they fell asleep, but I never played with stuff like that... thats pretty neat...
yeah. none of the reasons are solid, and rely on other, non-related explanations. its not cool, guys. if you dont have a clue what im talking about, you werent meant to. :)
Perhaps thats how its meant to be, humanity is the one who made the divide between astral and physical, and some can break through that divide. Perhaps that schism is what original sin is all about...
i agree. its the humans!!! ugh. who know the worst disease was homo sapien.
Interesting. How can one tell the difference between imagination and reality? What is imagination? What is reality? The older I get the more these boundaries seem to dissolve. Recently I've realized that I can experience situations in my "imagination", and therefore I don't have the need of experiencing them in the physical reality. I'm thrilled! What a time saver. Is it a "worse" experience since I lived it on a different level?
So one can say...yeah but how do you know that what you have experienced is the same as the "real" experience. I say: WHO CARES?? An experience is an experience whether it's a fantasy, a dream or an OBE. Personally I really don't see the difference and maybe I'm just really naive since I believe that all people on OBE forums are aware that we are multidimentional at ALL times...oh well (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-003.gif)
No Hanna, I think your very right, an experince is an experince no matter how it is viewed. Our imagination affects our perception profoundly and it is near impossible to seperate the two... but conversly their are certain trademarks of various experinces that set them apart for others... We are alwas multidimensional, its all about changing our limites minds into perciving other dimensional levels rather than just this one... its all incredibly awe inspiriing though, isn't it?
yes. very true. i agree with hannah. al experiences are real. it doesnt matter if they were experienced on the physical realm or not.
You may be interested in reading this...
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=7493
... and some other of my posts there, and on GoM forum. Maybe you'll find something that will explain a thing or two.
Even though I said there I wouldn't post anywhere from now on, this is a too important matter to miss. Ever since I posted that, I've been under full astral (or whatever you want to call it) assault. Head on, no holding back anymore type of assault. Your vision of a wave of darkness reminded me of a dream I had after that post. During the assault I captured one of the beings (lesser servant, so to speak), and while waiting for the sun to come up (I was interested to see how "dream sun" would affect it), the scene suddenly completely changed, and there was this giant black fog coming our way. I started running away and shouting to the people that it's coming, and that they should be ready for it.
The dream scene changed again, and I found myself in my bed (still in a dream), with some kind of full body contraption around my body. It was designed to hold me grounded, incapable of moving freely. I destroyed a part of it, and it completely disassembled and fell to the ground. There were some other things in the dream, and immediately before I fell asleep, but I won't describe them here.
I have no intention to start a discussion of my experiences. I have nothing against other people's opinions, though, and everyone may feel free to say whatever they like. I am simply not going to reply. Not because I don't wish to defend myself, but because I'm trying to keep my profile as low as possible right now.
Regarding seeing the future, I cannot really see it, but I can sort of "feel" it. More precisely, I can feel intentions affecting possibilities.
Seeing the future is really nothing much of a business. Some beings are able not only to see it, but to manipulate it as well. And not just the future. They can manipulate the past as well. So, from my point of view, seeing the future is really nothing special. No more special, for example, than seeing the past.
Though, these beings do like to think of themselves as "gods" for their "god-like" abilities... which is too bad for them, I must say, because the "time" is coming for them to sober up from their faulty feeling of power, and their complete disregard for life of other beings. What goes around comes around, as they say...
i think its safe to say that this topic is like....i dunno, not only dead, but decomposing. on a lighter note, i slept 0 hours last night. i did take small naps though. to see if i could OBE in a state of intense exhaustion. stupid homework....anyway. i kinda started to see a bright light grow i felt disconnected from my body, then i opened my eyes, and it was back to normal.
Quote from: erynys on May 03, 2007, 17:24:37
yes. very true. i agree with hannah. al experiences are real. it doesnt matter if they were experienced on the physical realm or not.
I have to disagree with that. There is a difference of realness between them. There is phsyical reality and there are other realities. You cannot say that something that you imagined is as real as something that acctually happened to you.
Whatever you do spiritually you have to stay grounded in the physical reality and accept that as your current "home" so to say. That should be rule number 1.
Quote from: Mydral on May 08, 2007, 09:37:44
There is a difference of realness between them. There is phsyical reality and there are other realities. You cannot say that something that you imagined is as real as something that acctually happened to you.
Whatever you do spiritually you have to stay grounded in the physical reality and accept that as your current "home" so to say. That should be rule number 1.
Hey Mydral,
Staying grounded is an obvious rule no 1.
Rule no 2 is that the physical reality is just one of the realities we experience.
Apart from that, I'd love to hear your definition of what is imagination and what is reality... :wink:
lol. silly. the merging of the two is how we influence the physical reality. :) im laughing as a teen, but really, im giggling as a child. :)
Quote from: erynys on May 10, 2007, 01:49:44
lol. silly. the merging of the two is how we influence the physical reality. :) im laughing as a teen, but really, im giggling as a child. :)
Not exactly... physical reality stays unchanged with respects to laws, appearance, etc. The thing changeable are situations in which you are involved since we have the power of choice. You can imagine yourself acting to certain things in a certain way and then do that or you can give yourself positive thoughts which might acctually change the outcome of an event but thats it.
You cannot imagine an object appearing and it will appear for example. Secondly if you merge imagination with reality you might develope emotions because of what your imagening, which is a really bad thing. For example if you imagine doing a crime and feel guilt about it....
You have to keep imagination and reality seperated, they are different. Imagination tries to mimick physical reality until you make a concious decision against this. In both cases you have to accept that what you imagined isn't the real thing. In the first case only the experience which you will receive from external stimuli in the physical reality will count and the second case doens't exist in physical reality.
Don't think this is true? Please imagine doing your favourite activity, it will not be as satisfying as the real thing. To acctually feel it completly you have to do it in the physical reality.
Now imagine flying, feel the rush of the wind etc. have fun with this imagination. Now stop and realise that you can't do it and feel the frustration. If you would accept the imagination as reality you might jump from a building thinking you can fly..... some children acctually did that.
Quote from: Mydral on May 14, 2007, 16:07:43
Not exactly... physical reality stays unchanged with respects to laws, appearance, etc. The thing changeable are situations in which you are involved since we have the power of choice.You can imagine yourself acting to certain things in a certain way and then do that or you can give yourself positive thoughts which might actually change the outcome of an event but thats it. You cannot imagine an object appearing and it will appear for example.
I have experienced myself, and know people who first put a lot of intention into their "imagination" and managing to manifest their "imagination" in physical reality. The power of intention. Attracting people you want to attract, situations, events, job, money...etc.Yes, objects - visualization is a very powerful tool in terms of accomplishing your goals.
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Secondly if you merge imagination with reality you might developer emotions because of what your imagining, which is a really bad thing. For example if you imagine doing a crime and feel guilt about it....
Oh! That is really really bad :-o yikes!!! I better not imagine galloping on horses through green fields or being happily in love because I might experience some severe positive emotions, which will make me feel really good...and oh jee...I better not do that and stick to this wonderful physical reality we have here on earth...it's just so positive I can't get enough of it :lol:
QuoteYou have to keep imagination and reality separated, they are different. Imagination tries to mimic physical reality until you make a conscious decision against this. In both cases you have to accept that what you imagined isn't the real thing. In the first case only the experience which you will receive from external stimuli in the physical reality will count and the second case doesn't exist in physical reality.
First of all - I don't HAVE to do anything.
Second - I don't see any reason to keep them separated as long as I'm sane,happy, have a job, pay taxes and good friends and people to talk to.
Third - Actually...it's the physical reality mimicking the etherical, as for 3rd dimension is a lot more dense than lets say 4th (where most dreams/ imagination come from) a good example is Kirlian photography (http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/fringe_science/kirilia.html "If portions of the physical body are cut away, the energy matrix or "phantom" of the missing part is still clearly visible in the photograph, although there is no tangible, physical substance there." Also, any healer, aura reader, will tell you that an illness can appear in the energy field weeks and even months before it appears in the physical body ( great book, Vibrational Medicine, Dr. Richard Gerber, "The etheric body is a holographic energy template that guides the growth and development of the physical body." )
Quoteonly the experience which you will receive from external stimuli in the physical reality will count .
I simply cannot agree with that because it means that all dreams, visions, obe's through which I gather very useful and practical information to use in my physical reality are worthless. And hey, I'm not the only one! Ask any artist or genius where he gets his information from...surely not from a book - everything appears first in the higher realms and then is manifested in the dense 3D reality.
QuoteDon't think this is true? Please imagine doing your favorite activity, it will not be as satisfying as the real thing.
No, I don't think it's true - I often receive a lot more satisfaction imagining the action than actually doing it in the physical :wink: Really!
QuoteTo actually feel it completely you have to do it in the physical reality.
Wow!!!!??????
QuoteNow imagine flying, feel the rush of the wind etc. have fun with this imagination. Now stop and realize that you can't do it and feel the frustration. If you would accept the imagination as reality you might jump from a building thinking you can fly..... some children actually did that.
I don't get frustrated because I know I can fly in other realities than the physical...actually it's simpler than walking! :lol:
I won't jump from a building because I understand the laws and limits of this reality.
Oh well, I'll start giggling too....
No point in battling with rationality... :roll:
Good luck with everything...
To finish I have a quote by Robert Monroe which I'd like to dedicate to you Mydral from the very bottom of my heart ... honestly :lol:
" For those who die, there is life.
For those who dream, there is a reality.
For those who have hope, there is knowledge.
For those who explore, there is eternity."
Well as long as you can handle it....
Once you cross a certain line you will understand what I ment, but then its to late for you. Just think of everything overlapping and you beeing unable to tell what was a dream and what really happened. Now thats going to be lots of fun... :wink:
And btw I never said your dreams etc. are worthless, as long as you accept that they didn't happen in the physical reality. You basically misunderstood my point since its hard to describe, it came from personal experience.
Kirlian photography is something in our reality... I can see phantom images if I want to. But thats beside the point.
I can't explain what I wanted to say properly to you since you just mock me.
I think it's healthy to keep reality and fantasy separate. Hannah, I thought I was the smart butt around here..lol you looking for a new title? I'm willing to give it to ya. :lol:
Hey Mydral,
Quote from: Mydral on May 17, 2007, 13:44:26
Well as long as you can handle it....
Once you cross a certain line you will understand what I meant, but then its to late for you. Just think of everything overlapping and you being unable to tell what was a dream and what really happened. Now thats going to be lots of fun... :wink:
I'm handling it quite well so far thanks, and am far from not seeing the difference between a dream and physical reality. I don't see the difference in the FEELINGS of these experiences and the importance of them.
QuoteAnd btw I never said your dreams etc. are worthless, as long as you accept that they didn't happen in the physical reality.
well, this is a quote from your previous post:
Quoteonly the experience which you will receive from external stimuli in the physical reality will count
I know you are referring to all strange experiences, but dreams don't come from external stimuli in the physical reality, so following your path of think they're quite worthless. I also understand from the quote, that if I refuse to accept that they are "just dreams" they will have no meaning. What about mental projections? - they can be easily put in the category of "just imagination", yet the method works for many and is quite easily validatable in the physical reality as a "true -real" experience...so what is the difference between this and me fantasizing about riding a horse?
QuoteKirlian photography is something in our reality... I can see phantom images if I want to. But thats beside the point.
It's not beside the point...Kirlian photography is a proof that the other dimencions are coexisting with physical reality-just like imagination is. And none of these dimencions is more important than the other. Phantom images are not physical reality, yet you seem to count them in as "ok"...hmm....
QuoteI can't explain what I wanted to say properly to you since you just mock me.
You have all the space and time to say properly what you want.
I'm not mocking you - at least it's not my intention, sorry if you perceive it like that. I quoted you Monroe with honest intentions, but I guess I was misunderstood.I understand that you're very rational, although I'm scanning through your posts, and agree with many of your opinions and can't really manage to put together the fact that you believe(and practice) aura seeing, OBE...etc. and say that experiences during "imagining" are worthless...
Maybe it's the difference in understanding the word "physical reality" - I understand it as solid, material reality on planet earth - 3rd dimencion...how do you? :wink:
All the best
ps.Thanks Nay...I'll pass.. 8-)