Heres the link
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/551/861/ ... iding.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/story/551/861/%20...%20iding.html)
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nibiru is behind the sun so we cant see it but it will appear in the sky either this year or next. The aliens want to take as many people off world as they can before we ascend. If you want more info about whats really going on go to http://georgekavassilas.org/ (http://georgekavassilas.org/) and watch Our journey and the grand deception.
is that your website? cause you seem to be pushing it pretty hard.
No its not its george kavassilas website but I am a member of the forums there, sorry for pushing the website but the info there just blew me away when i came across it. I had been searching for answers a long time and when i found georges message it all made sense. :-) Just thought Id share the message amongst the people here.
it's ok, i'm just poking fun at you. i'm sure i've done the same over the years.
All I can suggest is to stay away from the Kool-aid. ;)
so you are saying there are aliens coming to get us Some time.. this year or next. y are they going to collect us? and dint we want to ascend. your confusing. we need more information. ha ha and why would they want to get us off the planet we suck as a species. so only thing i can think of if it did happen is who all go would be enslaved by weirdos. hahaha only time will tell.
Quotehahaha only time will tell.
Or reason.
If he wants to make such a bold claim, he needs to back it up.
Tell us why you think this is going to happen. Don't refer us to a book or a website; if you are certain it will happen yourself, you should be able to tell us in your own words.
Quote from: Stillwater on April 15, 2011, 21:49:53
Or reason.
If he wants to make such a bold claim, he needs to back it up.
Tell us why you think this is going to happen. Don't refer us to a book or a website; if you are certain it will happen yourself, you should be able to tell us in your own words.
that's what i was going to say but I'm not good at writing. and y would it be so impossible to see something behind the sun. cant we just look behind the sun. or is it not a planet. this makes no seance and really is there anything wrong with ascending. sounds like they are scared of us if that's whats up. I don't know y i am even going to keep talking about this! or ya is truly humoring me right now. and if it does happen ha ha cant believe i just said that but yes if it does happen see you guys later, I'm not going on that ride.. hahaha
but some proof would be nice. but eather way fun to talk about, it is makeing me laugh. thanx for the laugh
See, the problem with something being on the "other side of the sun" is that we circle the sun... so this "something" would have to be on the *EXACT* orbit on the exact opposite side of the Sun, otherwise, there would come a time each year where it was plainly visible. Plainly visible to the naked eye, that is, because it would most likely be brighter than Mars in the sky. I won't say it's an impossibility... it's just highly improbable.
Quote from: Stillwater on April 15, 2011, 21:49:53
Or reason.
If he wants to make such a bold claim, he needs to back it up.
Tell us why you think this is going to happen. Don't refer us to a book or a website; if you are certain it will happen yourself, you should be able to tell us in your own words.
I cant prove anything I say, you dont have to believe anything I say, Im putting the information out there to make people more aware so if the aliens do show up you know they dont have your best interest at heart. Then its up to you to make the choice stay with mother earth or go with them.
Quote from: the8reader on April 15, 2011, 21:31:51
so you are saying there are aliens coming to get us Some time.. this year or next. y are they going to collect us? and dint we want to ascend. your confusing. we need more information. ha ha and why would they want to get us off the planet we suck as a species. so only thing i can think of if it did happen is who all go would be enslaved by weirdos. hahaha only time will tell.
I didn't mean it to sound as if they are coming to get us, you see ascension means to become a being of light. The aliens know that earth is going to ascend and that human beings are going to ascend with the earth. The aliens dont want us to ascend as we will no longer be there human herd and they can no longer feed of our energy. They will come and sell us there version of ascension which will mean going on ships or through stargates to off world planets were they can enslave us, they will sell love like its a US election campaign. This all sounds great but no one has to do anything to ascend apart from be yourself, the true path of ascension is to stay on mother earth :-) All this sounds crazy I know, only time will tell :-)
Even though I'm not a believer of anything when it comes to eschatological mythology (and I know Kurt doesn't like it when I use the word, but a myth is any story with teaching potential, and its possible actuality is besides the point- therefore I'm going to keep using it) but I have to say that this
QuoteThis all sounds great but no one has to do anything to ascend apart from be yourself, the true path of ascension is to stay on mother earth All this sounds crazy I know only time will tell
makes complete sense, and I applaud and support it.
Quote from: the8reader on April 15, 2011, 21:31:51
so you are saying there are aliens coming to get us Some time.. this year or next. y are they going to collect us? and dint we want to ascend. your confusing. we need more information. ha ha and why would they want to get us off the planet we suck as a species. so only thing i can think of if it did happen is who all go would be enslaved by weirdos. hahaha only time will tell.
The aliens are already here, they are your government and they have been enslaving humans since thousands of years ago when they first arrived. They are on another plane of existance, the 4th, which is close enough to the 3rd to interfere with human life. They interbreeded aeons ago with humans to create hybrids, the Nephilim, which ranges from Royalty to politicians. And the only reason man "sucks as a species" is because their influence and vibrational mind control has caused them to do so. They want you to know very little of anything. They don't want you believing in things that were once taken for granted by man, things that would be considered supernatural now. The more mankind thinks of itself as a spiritless piece of meat, the more control they have. And they feed on fear, they are vampires. They suck low vibrational energy from man to survive which is why they organise terrorism and disasters worldwide. This, along with actual blood that they drink during Satanic rituals in private amongst famous world leaders.
Quote from: CFTraveler on April 16, 2011, 13:02:47
Even though I'm not a believer of anything when it comes to eschatological mythology (and I know Kurt doesn't like it when I use the word, but a myth is any story with teaching potential, and its possible actuality is besides the point- therefore I'm going to keep using it)
I don't believe in much eschatological mythology either. And obviously I can't know for sure if Nibiru is really orbiting our sun. From reading and listening to zecharia sitchin and looking at the evidence he gathered over his lifetime , I feel it's possible that Nibiru exists.
Quote from: FuneralSetsYouFree on April 19, 2011, 22:31:55
The aliens are already here, they are your government and they have been enslaving humans since thousands of years ago when they first arrived. They are on another plane of existance, the 4th, which is close enough to the 3rd to interfere with human life. They interbreeded aeons ago with humans to create hybrids, the Nephilim, which ranges from Royalty to politicians. And the only reason man "sucks as a species" is because their influence and vibrational mind control has caused them to do so. They want you to know very little of anything. They don't want you believing in things that were once taken for granted by man, things that would be considered supernatural now. The more mankind thinks of itself as a spiritless piece of meat, the more control they have. And they feed on fear, they are vampires. They suck low vibrational energy from man to survive which is why they organise terrorism and disasters worldwide. This, along with actual blood that they drink during Satanic rituals in private amongst famous world leaders.
If this is something the human race does not wish to experience, then maybe humanity should raise it's vibrational energy by reconnecting with each other and loving one another selflessly. Then we wouldn't have to be concerned about the "aliens" being dependent upon our low vibrational energy to survive. It's really just a simple matter of choice.
Quote from: kailaurius on April 20, 2011, 09:12:08
If this is something the human race does not wish to experience, then maybe humanity should raise it's vibrational energy by reconnecting with each other and loving one another selflessly. Then we wouldn't have to be concerned about the "aliens" being dependent upon our low vibrational energy to survive. It's really just a simple matter of choice.
This is very true. But sadly the human race are so blind and skeptic that whenever they are told these things, they just laugh and call us insane, claiming that we live in a dream world. Although the fact is it is THEY who live in the dreamworld, and they need to seriously wake up NOW or they will continue to feed their foes. It is sad and frustrating at the same time. Which is why I don't have any time for skeptics. I mean I try to explain stuff to them, but the moment they just laugh and make fun of it without even considering it as a possibility is when I get mad and just leave them to rot under their rule.
Explain it to me. I promise if it is reasonable, I will entertain it. I am open to alot of things, but I also don't believe in faith... at all; don't you have to agree though? it is risky and dangerous to really believe anything that cannot be either experienced yourself or at least supported by strong evidence. If you guys believe this yourself, clearly you must have reasons you can share, no?
Quote from: FuneralSetsYouFree on April 20, 2011, 19:17:03
This is very true. But sadly the human race are so blind and skeptic that whenever they are told these things, they just laugh and call us insane, claiming that we live in a dream world. Although the fact is it is THEY who live in the dreamworld, and they need to seriously wake up NOW or they will continue to feed their foes. It is sad and frustrating at the same time. Which is why I don't have any time for skeptics. I mean I try to explain stuff to them, but the moment they just laugh and make fun of it without even considering it as a possibility is when I get mad and just leave them to rot under their rule.
But that's just it, there's no reason to tell them anything, unless you feel compelled to. You should do what you feel is "right" of course. However, people are always growing, always learning. Consciousness is always expanding, always evolving. Each and everyone of us have our own individual unique journey to experience. There's no reason to feel sad or frustrated at other's seemingly inability to open their eyes to your truth for everyone has their own truth. One person's truth does not have to be another's truth, or even all of society's truth, even at the expense or the seemingly demise of humanity. This isn't about being apathetic or indifferent. This is about just being, just being in the moment, for that is all that truly matters. We are all here for the same purpose, all on different paths, but all moving toward the same destination. No matter what society chooses to experience we will continue to experience in order to learn, grow and evolve. This is without exception. There is no end to our life in Universe. It is of pure Unconditional Love to selflessly share what you know to be true, when the opportunity presents itself and without force, for the benefit of ALL without the expectation for reward and without the disappointment of rejection, and to love, honor, and respect ALL regardless of their choices.
I don't see what any of this has to do with Nibiru? The posts in this forum never seem to stay on topic...
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on April 19, 2011, 22:39:42
I don't believe in much eschatological mythology either. And obviously I can't know for sure if Nibiru is really orbiting our sun. From reading and listening to zecharia sitchin and looking at the evidence he gathered over his lifetime , I feel it's possible that Nibiru exists.
sitchin died last october
Quote from: coolcol1 on April 16, 2011, 12:53:27
I didn't mean it to sound as if they are coming to get us, you see ascension means to become a being of light. The aliens know that earth is going to ascend and that human beings are going to ascend with the earth. The aliens dont want us to ascend as we will no longer be there human herd and they can no longer feed of our energy. They will come and sell us there version of ascension which will mean going on ships or through stargates to off world planets were they can enslave us, they will sell love like its a US election campaign. This all sounds great but no one has to do anything to ascend apart from be yourself, the true path of ascension is to stay on mother earth :-) All this sounds crazy I know, only time will tell :-)
I dont mean to mock, but this really sounds like something out of a Sci Fi.
Take a step back dude and believe what you experience, not what you're told.
Yeah if there really is aliens coming to take us away. How do you actually know its to enslave us?
What if something is going to kill us all on the earth soon and they want to save us?
There is lots of possibilities, I'm just wondering why you strongly believe they want to enslave us.
Quote from: SomeRandom on May 27, 2011, 02:48:18
Yeah if there really is aliens coming to take us away. How do you actually know its to enslave us?
What if something is going to kill us all on the earth soon and they want to save us?
There is lots of possibilities, I'm just wondering why you strongly believe they want to enslave us.
I agreee. I don't necessarily believe that Nibiru is real or not, but I can't wait till the day it is discovered to be real lol. I think that if aliens had superior technology, they would have had to start from scratch, much like humans did. We humans have almost abolished slavery from the entire planet with i'm sure a few exceptions that are unknown to me, so if the aliens were much more advanced than us, I'm sure slavery wouldn't be apart of their agenda.
I'm reading a book right now that goes in line with all this.
"Genes, Giants, Monsters & Men" by Joseph P. Farrell (http://www.amazon.com/Genes-Giants-Monsters-Men-Surviving/dp/1936239086)
Probably one of the best books I've read on Ancient Aliens in a while. I got really lazy and read a lot of Von Daniken lately, which isn't bad, but Daniken spits out these books like humping rabbits make babies. So there is a lot of redundant information.
While I was familiar with most of the concepts in Genes, Giants, Monsters & Men, it was a very refreshing read and introduced new elements that you just don't see in Ancient Astronaut/High Ancient Civilization too often (except for maybe Childress). A very good read indeed. It's even got elements of conspiracy! YAY! lol.
Quote from: SomeRandom on May 27, 2011, 02:48:18
Yeah if there really is aliens coming to take us away. How do you actually know its to enslave us?
What if something is going to kill us all on the earth soon and they want to save us?
There is lots of possibilities, I'm just wondering why you strongly believe they want to enslave us.
I know this one pick me pick me!
It's all to do with the religions we have that always ends up with a hero saving the day and taking it's people to "heaven". Bearers of false gifts (religus texts) and broken promises (heaven) plus the oldest creation text I know of is the sumarians and that story is about us being gold miners, hence we are being enslaved right now so to me there's proof. Also before I got into all this I kept seeing docomentrys and talks about the earth being distroyed in 2012 and this was in the open media which doesn't make sence why they would put stuff like that on our tv. They want us to think that the earth will be distroyed and this is a good opportunity to take advanaged of the humans. And of cause the earth is causing alot of chaos so they have the advanaged to put on a show for us ^^
humans fear death and would do anything to stay alive which is another advanaged they have.
The implication of the Sumerian "creation myth tablets" (which you are referring too), is that we were genetically engineered hybrids, created by the gods (Annunaki - "Those who from heaven to earth came") as a labor force. This may have actually happened multiple times over the course of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years, with different "hybrid species" being created (thus the different ages of humanities, common to the indigenous tribes of the Americas and a host of other "indigenous religions" around the world).
There are all kinds of stories about the work force(s) rebelling, about mutiny among the "gods" (ets), war among the gods, global catastrophes, etc., which resulted in the ets leaving, yet promising to return at some point. There is also the implication that perhaps some of these "gods" remained here on earth and taught the most recent group of humanity (post-deluge) the tools that were required for sophisticated civilization. The Sumerian King's List implies an antediluvian high ancient civilization (with the reign of the kings going back some 250,000 years prior to the flood) that may indeed have spanned the globe.
Then there are the more recent discoveries attributed to the likes of people like Richard C. Hoagland (whose methods sometimes seem to stretch the facts to fit theories - nevertheless, there are valid points made) that speaks to the artificiality of certain celestial bodies in our solar system (Saturn's moon Iapetus and Mars' moon Phobos) as well as artificial structures on both the moon and mars. So if this high civilization did exist (which I believe they did), then they may have been natives who achieved mastery of space flight far beyond our capabilities, or they may have been non-earth-natives who came here for a reason.
Whatever the case may be, there is a great deal of strong evidence (including hard archaeological facts like engineered artifacts found in strata that dates to hundreds of thousands to millions of years old - check out authors Cremo and Thompson) suggesting that advanced civilizations existed on earth long before our present age. Whether they are from here or not remains to be shown conclusively, yet when the ancient "religious texts/myths" are considered, this high civilization does seem to have "come from the stars".
If we were indeed engineered by them, then they may still have a significant interest in us, either as a "pet project" (coming to see how we've progressed) or as a property created by them that they want to reclaim. There may still be an element of these ancients present among us right now, subtly moving the course of human history to their own ends (be they for better or worse). You've also got the other end of this game, which is people like Icke and claims of an et/interdimensional elite that is very much here and very much interested in controlling us for their own gain. Who knows. But if you look, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that they were here, we did have interaction with them and they do have reason to be interested in us still.
Quote from: FuneralSetsYouFree on April 19, 2011, 22:31:55
The aliens are already here, they are your government and they have been enslaving humans since thousands of years ago when they first arrived. They are on another plane of existance, the 4th, which is close enough to the 3rd to interfere with human life. They interbreeded aeons ago with humans to create hybrids, the Nephilim, which ranges from Royalty to politicians. And the only reason man "sucks as a species" is because their influence and vibrational mind control has caused them to do so. They want you to know very little of anything. They don't want you believing in things that were once taken for granted by man, things that would be considered supernatural now. The more mankind thinks of itself as a spiritless piece of meat, the more control they have. And they feed on fear, they are vampires. They suck low vibrational energy from man to survive which is why they organise terrorism and disasters worldwide. This, along with actual blood that they drink during Satanic rituals in private amongst famous world leaders.
Don't you think you are being a little paranoid? There is no such thing taking place out there. These are all baseless conspiracy theories. You are also mixing alien visitors with religion, which is very much a human fabrication. People also believe that the universe works in mysterious ways...it's called superstition! Do you know where that comes from? It comes from a time when people knew less about reality and the exaltation of certain gurus who dealt in the occult was common. There is nothing out there planning to enslave us. Let 2012 come. You'll see. The most significant thing that might happen is a terrorist attack at the Olympics as a retaliation for the killing of Bin Laden and his family.
I'm not saying anything is happening or that the aliens are coming back in 2012 or whatever, but you have to separate out the BS from the legitimate research. there is good research regarding anomalies in archaeology. and humans turned what was most likely world history into religion (whether we were guided to do so by someone else or not is ultimately irrelevant). that put a filter on the way modern scientists perceive the past (especially the christian world and ideas about prehistory). that filter teaches us that we are the most advanced thing that has existed on this earth, and so the stories of our ancestors can't be anything more than prehistoric science fiction. i believe that to be very presumptive of us, conceited even. i know we're pretty cool and all, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of advanced ancient civilizations.
as for their extraterrestrial origins? who knows? i don't. i've never met one of these guys and the beings i've met OOB have never claimed to be of extraterrestrial/interdimensional origin (then again, then enemy wouldn't out himself to me would he?! lol...).
anyway, i do think that there is a "conspiracy" of sorts, but that doesn't have to mean aliens and lizard people and whatnot. it simply means that certain groups that have the capability to do so, are conspiring against the masses for their own purposes. much of that is done through religion and politics. part of it may be keeping knowledge of "other/ancient worlds" and "advanced technologies" hidden by any means necessary (even so far as one report that the US government took a bunch of anomalous artifacts and sunk them in a ship so no one could find them and the status quo -i.e. theory of evolution - wouldn't be disrupted).
it would do one good to avoid the extremes in these situations. the complete deniers and the total accepters. you're both shutting yourself off from possibility and personal development.
Quotei believe that to be very presumptive of us, conceited even. i know we're pretty cool and all, but that doesn't preclude the possibility of advanced ancient civilizations.
Conceited??? Not at all!! I think the
possibility that a lot of our technology today may have evolved from crashed UFO retrievals is feasible, but...a conspiracy by aliens to enslave mankind...hmmm... :roll:
We can't deny the possibility of other more advanced civilisations having existed on Earth. If there were, they must've left this world because, if they were so advanced, it makes no sense that they were naturally wiped out. It's ridiculous.
As for us, I think we, as a race, deserve a lot of credit for our technological development! Look at how much things changed in the last couple of centuries.
Quote from: Summerlander on July 15, 2011, 15:05:05
Conceited??? Not at all!! I think the possibility that a lot of our technology today may have evolved from crashed UFO retrievals is feasible, but...a conspiracy by aliens to enslave mankind...hmmm... :roll:
We can't deny the possibility of other more advanced civilisations having existed on Earth. If there were, they must've left this world because, if they were so advanced, it makes no sense that they were naturally wiped out. It's ridiculous.
As for us, I think we, as a race, deserve a lot of credit for our technological development! Look at how much things changed in the last couple of centuries.
no no, i'm saying it's conceited to think that we're the best thing on the planet and allow that to keep us from considering the possibility that another advanced civilization may have existed on this planet in the distant past. not that we get all of our tech from aliens or something like that. i'm also no opposed to the idea of reverse engineered tech, but it seems like once we reached a certain point in development (especially with electronics), our knowledge and it's resulting technology advanced exponentially and just keeps going. maybe there is some threshold that we hit and whatnot.
i think an ancient civilization could have been wiped out. nature is a powerful creature. but they may well have left. or maybe they're in agartha, lol!
Agartha...hmmm...it's as true as the urban legend that claims a duck's quack doesn't echo. :-D
lol.
How does an object the size of a planet (we don't know it's size... clearly not going to replace the sun) stay stationary as we observe it, then suddenly in 2012 come to life an start moving towards Earth? An orbiting planet cannot stay on one side of the sun at all times. It could be something ON the sun itself. Jupiter revolves and is made up of moving gases. But the great red spot hasn't moved in 300 years. So we know that gas giants can sustain whether phenomenon in one area of the sphere for many centuries. Maybe its a giant sun spot that could wreak havoc in 2012 if for some reason it moved to the other side of the sun. But, whatever the unknown object, if it stays stationary, then it won't suddenly move in one year, and it probably isn't a planet.
It could have been in such an orbit that would keep it perpetually on the other side of the sun from us - always out of view.
or, the more fun explanation...
it's always been there and evidence of it has been suppressed until the "right time".
also, our solar system is a big place. we like to think we know all of what's out there because of the fancy little animations they play on science programs and such. but in reality, there is A LOT about our solar system that we know nothing about. We really can't see that far unless something is really bright. A great deal of stuff in our solar system isn't that bright and we can't see it. Quite a lot of knowledge about our solar system is theory at best. Even the physics of the macro can't explain it all, there are many anomalies in the calculations about how everything in our solar system interacts. either we don't have the full equation, or we don't have all the pieces. whatever the case, there are a great deal of unknowns in the near-by 'out-there'.