Many of you have probably heard the recent theories that on October 14 of this year Earth will make contact with ET's in a manner which will be undeniable to the world of their existence. For those who haven't, apparently contactees (abductees?) have told us that their contact with aliens has revealed that on this date an incredibly large and unmistakable UFO will appear, and for the next 3 days it will traverse across the world for everyone to see. Our government, and perhaps others, will do everything they can to make contact or try to break the security of the ship to infiltrate it, but it will be to no avail. Our technology is too weak to interfere with them at this point. The aliens have said that they will not make contact with anyone at this time. They will simply show their ship in a manner that the world will recognize aliens do exist and are indeed here with us, then leave after 3 days and let the process sink it. Our government will also try to cover this event up, saying that it is something of their own making, or, as they often do, claim the object doesn't exist at all. But the aliens tell us this will be an undeniable event. I do know that this date has some relevence to the Maya, such as a soltice or something, not positive. Other than that I am unaware of why this date was chosen. But it's likely that now is the time, and something could occur on this date. Just wondering if anyone has any deeper information on the cause of this event, or its purposes on that date? Less than one month to go. How will you all react if something of this magnitude does indeed occur? :-o
The following is the elleged transcript from the aliens to Goodchild...
TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH...
We wish it to be understood that on the 14th day of your month of October in the year 2008 a craft of great size shall be visible within your skies. It shall be in the south of your hemisphere and it shall scan over many of your states. We give to you the name of Alabama.
It has been decided that we shall remain within your atmosphere for the minimum of three of your twenty four hour periods. During this time there will be much commotion upon your earth plane. Your highest authorities will be intruding into 'our' atmospherics that surround our ship. This 'security field' is necessary for us, as there shall take place a 'farce' from those in your world who shall try to deny that we come in LOVE.
KNOW OF THIS ...WE COME TO ASSIST YOUR WORLD. WE DO NOT COME TO TAKE OVER. WE DO NOT COME TO DESTRUCT. WE COME TO GIVE YOU HOPE.
We are beings from other planets, who for many eons of your time have been preparing for these days ahead. We ask each soul that reads of these words to accept in their heart the Truth that lies within. For in that place there is the knowing that this is to take place. There shall be many who deny. There shall be many who dismiss. There shall be those who KNOW of this TRUTH. Which ever you may be ... let this be understood. IT SHALL TAKE PLACE.
We give you the opportunity to capture on screen this particular ship. There shall be no contact in the form that those of your planet would like. For this initial presentation, we shall simply be presenting our ship to you. We say to you ... That shall certainly be enough to comprehend initially.
All kinds of methods shall be carried out in order to try and penetrate through our security barrier, but they shall be to no avail. Until we can PROVE to you that we come in LOVE, we will not allow the fullness of our visits to be uncovered.
KNOW OF THIS ... THIS IS THE BEGINNING ... NOT THE END.
Your governments and your media will try to disguise us. This will fail. All avenues have been covered by us. Your media will have no choice but to portray the TRUTH for it shall be there for all to see. Friends of earth. Do not be afraid. We beseech you to TRUST that we come to bring the downfall of those who have misintentions for the well being of your planet. If we do not intervene now ... as has been planned for eons of your earth time ... then we fear it would be too late.
WE ASK YOU TO ACCEPT US IN LOVE. FOR THAT IS WHY WE COME.
The sayings that your world have been aware of via your movie screens etc were not merely make believe. We have been planting and watering seeds of Truth on your planet in preparation for these days. FOR INDEED WE COME IN PEACE.
Fill your souls with TRUST in that knowledge. We are your brothers and sisters from other places. Our technology is far advanced. There are those in high places of ruling that KNOW full well of this. Therefore they know that there would be little point trying to 'pretend' that they need weapons to destroy us.
On this day that we appear, we ask you to listen only to your hearts and NOT to the words of those who shall be in great fear of losing their power. For too long your world has lived under a cloud that most of you have been unaware of. If you were to KNOW the Truths of what has been hidden from you, you would be appalled and in great disbelief. It is time for your souls to be allowed to be who they are. The veil is to be removed.
BE OF JOY. IT IS A TIME FOR THAT. YOU SHALL KNOW OF THIS AS YOUR HEART ACCEPTS THE TRUE REASON FOR OUR VISIT. TO BRING YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF LOVE. KNOW THIS.
We choose to leave it at that. Be vigilant. Keep your eyes to the skies. Keep LOVE in your heart. WE ... THE FEDERATION OF LIGHT ... SIGN OFF, GIVING YOU ENCOURAGEMENT AND HOPE AS WE BEGIN THE ASCENSION INTO THE NEW WORLD.
Each one of you has chosen to be here for this ascension. Choose now whether your human form will ... Accept it through LOVE Or Reject it through FEAR. May the Highest aspect of your soul fill you with Light as you move bravely forward. Gratitude to each one as they assist us in the cause.
A note from Blossom- I am aware that Alabama is NOT in the Southern Hemisphere. I queried this to the Federation and was told ... 'In days of old, it used to be'. If anyone can find information on this, I would be most grateful if you could contact me via my website. It has also been suggested that 'Alabama' maybe the name of a craft. On researching it appears that Alabama has a NASA space centre. I thank each one of you for taking the time to read this and to pass it on. It required great courage to send this out. I hope this allows you the courage within yourselves to continue on your own personal search for YOUR TRUTH.
Awesome. Can't wait. October 14. Don't forget.
I really can't wait... to see what excuses the new agers are going to come up with when nothing happens.
By the way, the note at the end is very funny. x)
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Just thought about this, you know what's gonna be really funny? After the date, a lot of people will claim having seen UFO's, others being abducted, etc. Books will be written and money will be made.
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Very interesting. I just finished watching the youtube videos on Project Blue Beam, and I have a few thoughts about it.
First of all I see nothing wrong with Project Blue Beam. Actually some of the methods described in the video could be quite beneficial. For instance there is nothing wrong with destroying the christian, muslim, or any belief system. Strongly held belief systems do nothing but enslave people, prevents enlightenment, and hinders spiritual development and progress. A major step to enlightenment is dropping all beliefs.
As far as these telepathic machines that might be capable of mind control, they would have no effect on anyone who has control of their mind, their reality, and because of the Law of Free Will could not possibly effect anyone unless that person, through the creation of their own reality by the Law of Cause and Effect and the Law of Attraction, has given permission on a conscious or sub-conscious level.
The number of claims and speculations about government, corporate, and religious conspiracies have been increasing quite a lot lately across the Internet. While I believe that a lot of them are true there is absolutely nothing to fear from any conspiring organization whatsoever. Anything and everything that happens to society is a result of the collective consciousness, and as long as a lot of people continue to believe and focus on these conspiracies they will most likely come true, which of course there is nothing wrong with that - it's just something else to experience. As long as there continues to be a lot of energy focused on these organizations they will continue to exist. If everyone focused on world peace instead of conspiracies the conspiracies would cease to exist. The reason I seen nothing wrong with Project Blue Team or any conspiring organization is that it is our creation and again created at the level of the collective consciousness. For one thing right and wrong are nothing more than human concepts anyway. The people that work and participate in these conspiring organizations are here for the same reasons as everyone else on this planet, and that is to gain experience to learn, grow, and progress along the wonderful journey back to Source.
A lot of these conspiracy videos are beneficial in that they seem to increase awareness, but I also notice a bit of fear mongering propaganda in a lot of them as well. Again there is nothing to fear from any conspiracy as we create and have the ability to control our own reality.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. If this October 14th event does actually take place, then I look forward to it whether it be real or a holographic image. It makes no difference either way. I think it will make for good entertainment and another notch on my belt of experience. I always enjoy a good light show. And who knows, maybe an event like this could actually change the perception of the majority of society, preferably in a positive way.
Oh and back to the topic of the telepathic machines. I noticed in the video that it said they could use the telepathic machines to enter the brain making you think you are hearing the voice of God. There is a nice little guideline I got from Kryon's Website (http://www.kryon.com/k_25.html) about determining the validity and credibility of channelers. I believe the same guideline could be used in this situation as well:
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1. There will always be useful information for everyone. Beware of the channel that gives you useful information for only a few, or tells you that it's only for a special group or a sequestered number. It must be useful for ALL humanity, every single Human. This is an area of discernment allowing you to know you are hearing the truth.
2. The message should be uplifting. Watch for an empowering message - NOT ONE OF FEAR, not one that drags you down - not one that makes you want to take fearful action or hide - but an enabling message! This is a staple of God energy. It must be there. It should inspire the listener and reader. Every recorded angel appearance before a Human Being has begun with "Fear not!"
3. Spirit (God) will never, ever channel a message that asks you to give up your free will. Never! For your free will is what your experience on Earth is all about as you sit in your "chairs of gold" (a metaphor created in Kryon Book Six). Free will! FREE CHOICE is what drives your future.
4. Spirit will never give you a message - ever - that asks you to violate the integrity of what you believe. You are honored in your thought processes. Spirit will never trick you or "talk you" into anything. The message must never violate your integrity. You must feel comfortable with it, and it must ring true to your heart.
5. Spirit will never represent a channeller as being the only source. Watch for this, for there are many channels of Spirit and they all coordinate their information to create a bigger picture, especially in this New Age. They will NEVER represent themselves as the ONLY source of information.
6. Watch for the fact that the information is normally new information. Beware of the channel that simply re-hashes the old, for they are not channelling anything but the ego of the Human Being. New information is necessary, combined with "core information," it is the entire reason for the channel. Think about it.
7. Watch for the fact that channelled information should have spiritual solutions presented. Solutions to life challenges on Earth, via new information, is the purpose of channelling.
Of all the places in the world to be seen, why Alabama? That would probably be on my list right over Antarctica.
I have channeled with some members of the Galactic Federation. I was told that this event will happen, unless it's absolutely necessary to delay it, but all signs point to a go ahead. I do believe they will arrive to HELP humanity, since one channeling suggested the sharing of technologies including the introduction of 'free energy' so that Earth's resources may be untapped. They were also in touch with the light and wish to spread love. War and famine were obsolete to them.
Quote from: Stookie on September 19, 2008, 11:42:15
Of all the places in the world to be seen, why Alabama? That would probably be on my list right over Antarctica.
She had to include some place from the US, but she should have first checked what the southern hemisphere is. :-P
Just a couple of related video links from YouTube, one of an alien that was killed by a man walking his dog in the woods. The alien attacked and killed the dog and the man struck it on the head with an object killing it.
The second is of what is being called the Flordia phenomonon, which happened last month and has yet to be explained.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Fid0BouFY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOAqNyRuaE&feature=related
That's all very interesting, but (about the second video, the 'snow cone' thing)- How is a painting of a prediction made two days later undeniable proof? I live in Florida, and funnel clouds are fairly common. So I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove?
the wording goes"It shall be in the south of your hemisphere and it shall scan over many of your states." So, south of YOUR hemisphere(asuming here the channeler is in the USA)would mean in the southern part of the northern hemisphere-thus the alabama reference... :-D
when i saw this i was overwhealmed :-D or something I have always known but people called me and my brother crazy, lol, I would say, so whos crazy now huh? lol this is such an undescribable feeling. i just hope they are coming to help humanity. if so then live long and prosper, peace and long life.
I won't deny that something like this will be very exciting if it does indeed happen, assuming they are really benevolent aliens and not something else entirely.
Also, these beings would have to do more than just show up and prance their ships around our skies. I for one would love to see them introduce free-energy tech, but without everything going to hell in a hand-basket - which it so easily can when you disrupt a world's economy so drastically in such a short space of time.
Many have predicted this kind of thing before, so I won't be holding my breath this time.
I could be misinterpreting the message but the impression I got is that the ship would be centered in the southern hemisphere and stretch as far as Alabama. That would make for a very large ship. Probably several thousand miles wide if I'm assuming that statement correctly.
Well, regardless of it's veracity, it's only approx. 3 weeks away. Not that long now.
Dear friends,
I have been reading about this 14-10-2008 prediction on the net, checking different sources to collect different points of view.
Now, personally I see myself as an open-minded person, but at the same time aware enough to not be easily fooled or taken advantage of.
I have never been really interested in UFO's or the like, but I prefer to give things the benefit of the doubt and draw personal conclusions later.
Therefor I urge people to not simply take for granted what they find on the net. Why do I say this?
If you start digging a little deeper in subjects connected to this one, you will come out on conspiracy theories.
Personally I'm not sure what I should or should not believe about such theories, that's for each individual to decide for themselves. Anyway, when you dig deeper you will find info concerning "Project Blue Beam". Now this conspiracy theory seems to link this event somewhere as a staged holographic scene by our own leaders. When I noticed this I couldn't believe my eyes that there's even theories out on the net like that. They seem so far-fetched that they boggle the mind, nevertheless...
At this moment I have no idea what to believe. Let's even wait to see if this 14-10-2008 thing is gonna happen in the 1st place.
I may sound pessimistic, but I'm just trying to protect myself from taking things for granted too easily also. As many people do, I also long for a world of Love & Equality, but that does not mean that everything that has a label with 'Love' on it, is what it portays it to be.
My point being: keep open-minded, but keep rational thinking also in the picture and do not be fooled with exterior appearances or seemingly beautiful explanations from others (incl. myself). Foremost listen to yourself & the truth inside you!
Apologies if people are offended by this, but I felt it necessary to put this out there, do with it what you want.
Wishing you Love & Light
Here we go:
"A note from Blossom- I am aware that Alabama is NOT in the Southern Hemisphere. I queried this to the Federation and was told ... 'In days of old, it used to be'. If anyone can find information on this, I would be most grateful if you could contact me via my website. It has also been suggested that 'Alabama' maybe the name of a craft. On researching it appears that Alabama has a NASA space centre. I thank each one of you for taking the time to read this and to pass it on. It required great courage to send this out. I hope this allows you the courage within yourselves to continue on your own personal search for YOUR TRUTH."
(found here: http://www.isnare.com/?aid=286841&ca=Society )
See, there's a perfectly logical explanation. And if it's not on Oct. 14, it's possible that Oct. 14 is really the name of the craft. It's not her fault she doesn't properly understand what they mean by "Alabama".
Lol @ Stookie. All I can say about this is that some things have to change on our planet, regardless of whether this prophecy comes true or not.
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2008/guy-communicates-with-aliens-p1.php
:? :lol: What can one say to that?
Quote from: Seeking ET on September 18, 2008, 14:44:08
We are beings from other planets, who for many eons of your time have been preparing for these days ahead. We ask each soul that reads of these words to accept in their heart the Truth that lies within. For in that place there is the knowing that this is to take place. There shall be many who deny. There shall be many who dismiss. There shall be those who KNOW of this TRUTH. Which ever you may be ... let this be understood. IT SHALL TAKE PLACE.
There's a growing interest in these things, agencies are feeling pressed, they have people spread rumours, and they create big expectations. Then the day comes, nothing happens, off course, everything turns into a joke, people lose interest. Situation is under control again.
If I'm wrong then you can mock me afterwards.
Quote from: AndrewTheSinger on September 25, 2008, 04:25:49
There's a growing interest in these things, agencies are feeling pressed, they have people spread rumours, and they create big expectations. Then the day comes, nothing happens, off course, everything turns into a joke, people lose interest. Situation is under control again.
If I'm wrong then you can mock me afterwards.
Assuming these aliens just show up without doing anything else, will the revelation that aliens exist really shake the foundations of the various control systems?
Won't things just stay more or less the same? Goverments might own up on some of the UFO stuff, but will keep lying about other stuff. People will now know for sure aliens exist, but unless these aliens interfere in some way (by dropping ZPE machines for example :)), won't Monday morning just be another Monday morning for most people?
They don't seem to be really concerned about what people believe, what bothers them the most is when official institutions start losing credibility. The power they have is they are given, a starship or a big deception is just a distraction.
By the way, cool video lol
If you look at how it coincides with our economic problems, it makes sense that the idea of "saviors from space" would arise out of our collective unconscious. Not that it's real, but the idea is comforting. In a way, it's no different from many religions.
Just because I don't believe it right now, how I react when I see it would be the same in any case:
"Holy Schamollians, there's a spaceship over Alabama!".
But right now I'm more focused on making McCain lose the election with my psychic powers. Can't get off track.
Quote from: interception on September 25, 2008, 05:58:38
Assuming these aliens just show up without doing anything else, will the revelation that aliens exist really shake the foundations of the various control systems?
Won't things just stay more or less the same? Goverments might own up on some of the UFO stuff, but will keep lying about other stuff. People will now know for sure aliens exist, but unless these aliens interfere in some way (by dropping ZPE machines for example :)), won't Monday morning just be another Monday morning for most people?
The aliens need to make their presence known first before they can simply walk among men and share technology and ideas. A dramatic change in the way we function as a society and knowing that other civilizations exist can be overwhelming for some. Many may resort to violence or suicide in fear of enslavement or war. These aliens know which is best to help humanity and have practiced this event many times.
Quote from: Vice on September 25, 2008, 16:33:50
The aliens need to make their presence known first before they can simply walk among men and share technology and ideas. A dramatic change in the way we function as a society and knowing that other civilizations exist can be overwhelming for some. Many may resort to violence or suicide in fear of enslavement or war.
I agree with you on those points.
Quote from: Vice on September 25, 2008, 16:33:50
These aliens know which is best to help humanity and have practiced this event many times.
Are you sure? How do you know this? Or is this something you want to belief?
cave paintings of extraterestrial alien craft, hieroglyphics of extraterestrial alien craft, pictures of extraterestrial alien craft in Leonardo divinci's art, i wouldn't be surprised if the Mona Lisa was a picture of an extraterestrial alien, even the crystal skull has an extraterestrial alien face on it in the evolutionary scale. it would also explain how the crystal skull radiates energy and is shaped perfectly as a humanoid skull. I've been researching this stuff for along time. I forgot the name of Leonardo Divinci's painting with the Extraterestrial Alien craft.
It's so interesting that there are still many things discovered till today, which brings us new perspectives and creates new theories.
My personal take on things suchs as NDE's, OBE's, Meditation, UFO's and other paranormal experiences and discoveries is that until it's proven that it's unmistakingly true or false I keep either options open. Science cannot explain everything yet what we witness sometimes and is mostly focused on the world outside us, rather than the world inside us.
For me dreams & OBE's are real, for they are my reality at the moment I experience them.
1. I cannot deny that to myself, especially when lucid enough during the experience. Even it gets proven later that is just brain chemistry and nothing more, the experiences were valuable and made me who I am today.
2. Science is a framework on which we test the validity of our reality, but should it not rather be the reality on which we base our science. I'm convinced that's what we all try to achieve in one way or another, depending on how you look at it.
My point being; this 14 Oct 2008 prediction, I welcome it. This world and it's inhabitants need hope and most long for an awakening of some kind. So we can correct where we're really going wrong now (global warming, war, poverty, discrimination, racism, genocide, lazyness, depleting of resources, population growth, crazy weather patterns since the last 2 decades, dependency on oil, money (the biggest reason for the problem we face in my eyes), etc.).
Many people still do not want to see or hear about this problem, because we all know that really doing something about it and making a difference will mean a change in attitude and way of living. Personally I think it's for the better of all, including the individual. But I also presume that many people are afraid of such change, for it would tip over their world.
Nonetheless, we either do something about it now or we can wait till it hits us in the face. I also don't have all the solutions for these problems were facing, but I am prepared to do my take in it. So the prediction of UFO's coming to visit us and helping us out is a nice and comforting idea, and therefore I long they come. But if they don't, let us not waste time and wait for another prediction but start living your life in harmony with others, without sacrificing the values that make you "YOU". One person can only do as much as she/he can, giving it your best. If all of us do that than the awakening has already begun...and I think it is.
Love & Light,
Quote from: kurai kokoro on September 21, 2008, 01:21:24
when i saw this i was overwhealmed :-D or something I have always known but people called me and my brother crazy, lol, I would say, so whos crazy now huh?
Apparently you. You can't decide to believe wild and baseless predictions just because they're comfortable.
Even if said predictions turned out to be true, you would still be crazy for having believed in them before without a logical reason.
Beliefs aren't a choice, they're a reflection of your ability to reason.
Quote from: Stookie on September 22, 2008, 11:27:43See, there's a perfectly logical explanation. And if it's not on Oct. 14, it's possible that Oct. 14 is really the name of the craft. It's not her fault she doesn't properly understand what they mean by "Alabama".
Well, duh. New age folk always has a way out from a prediction full of fail.
I predict every year people will predict it will be the year when aliens will appear on October 14th. Then one year when aliens actually do visit us it will mean the prophecy was true. It doesn't matter the day they come either, if they don't appear on a October 14th it just means that was actually the ship captain's birthday. :roll:
The prophecy is true! :roll:
QuoteApparently you. You can't decide to believe wild and baseless predictions just because they're comfortable.
Even if said predictions turned out to be true, you would still be crazy for having believed in them before without a logical reason.
Beliefs aren't a choice, they're a reflection of your ability to reason.
well according to my G.Q.E. from highschool and other tests my ability to reason is quite well, in fact I have been told it was better then everyone Else's both online and in highschool.
and I'll admit that was a bad post however the proof of extraterestrial alien crafts are in paintings and such, even the galactic rift in Mayan prophecies if thats apart of it, could actually have been an artificial worm hole that is just assuming that it was indeed apart of the prophecy.
Though I suppose that "It is best to keep ones mouth shut and be thought a fool, then to open it and to prove to be a fool." ~Samuel Clemens~
If I were "them", I wouldn't just take one ship if I wanted to show a message of love, that'd be way too ambiguous. I'd take fleets of ships and make a giant heart shape and move that over each major city. That'd be much clearer, but no, that strategy would be too easy... I mean seriously, they obviously have enough ships to do that, why not put them to good use?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OjcCIa_0YA
But the real big extractions are not ships, I know because I saw it and didn't believe it, I never thought it was so bizarre.
There's a whole damn zoo out there, I mean, in the universe above, and they come down, they appear huge, because our modelled forms are small. In your true spiritual form you wouldn't even be able to enter the Earth, because it is not larger than a soccer ball, I'm sure some astral projectors have experienced this, going into space and being unable to enter the small planets.
"But their powers, which are the angels, are in the form of beasts and animals. Some among them are polymorphous, and, contrary to nature, they have for their names which [...]. They are divided and [...] according to the [...] and [...] in form [...]. But these that are aspects of sound according to the third originate from being. And concerning these, all of these (remarks) are sufficient, since we have (already) spoken about them." - Marsanes
It's all true.
I have always wondered what it would look like to us if a higher dimensional being interacted with our 3 dimensional universe in a way so that we can see it.
If you think of pushing a complex 3D object through a 2D sheet: To the 2D beings living in their little 2D world, this odd interaction seems to appear out of thin air and grow and morph and then disappear into thin air again. It will also appear to move in ways which defies the laws of physics of the 2D world, including "teleportation".
Very much like certain UFO cases.
Exactly. Regarding the dimensions, they exist in the same way that we do, only the substance they are made of is not as heavy as the substance that our bodies are made of, since we are in the lowest part of the matter, and because of this they are more free.
Also, when they come down they don't perceive the material world the same way that we do, and when we look at them we don't perceive them the same way that they perceive themselves, and this is due to an energetic discrepancy, for they come from a more energetic nature, since they dwell above.
But there are more heavens above them, their existence is an error that happened during the process of creation. These material universes were created by a lesser god, he calls himself a god but he is a liar and an arrogant envier. They refer to our universe as the 'universe of poverty', and also 'the world of the dead', and they keep the souls returning to slavery, because most of the souls don't know about the pre-existent Father.
Edit: in the writings it is spelled 'Pre-existent Father'
Quote from: AndrewTheSinger on September 29, 2008, 03:48:38
... their existence is an error that happened during the process of creation. These material universes were created by a lesser god, he calls himself a god but he is a liar and an arrogant envier. They refer to our universe as the 'universe of poverty', and also 'the world of the dead', and they keep the souls returning to slavery, because most of the souls don't know about the pre-existent Father.
Error of creation? Lesser god? Universe of poverty?
Maybe I don't get you, but is this some form of quote or you really believe what you've written??
:?
Quote from: galaxy_storm on September 29, 2008, 16:32:43
Error of creation? Lesser god? Universe of poverty?
Maybe I don't get you, but is this some form of quote or you really believe what you've written??
:?
Yeah, I'm not feeling that. :? Sorry, Andrew but I'm not getting what you wrote about "lesser gods" and "errors in creation" and stuff either.
To me creation is as it should be, there are no "errors" in it in that sense. Nothing exists because of some error. I mean that's insane. The system as seen from a multidimensional level is perfect.
My opinion off course!
Lessee, here . . . To Serve Man, To Serve Man . . . *gulp* - it's a COOKBOOK! :-o
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone)
Vitruvian
Hehehehe. :-D
Let me try to put it in a different way. Imagine perfect immortal spirits existing in a perfect realm. Then someone said:
-This is so good and so easy, why don't we have some adventure?
-Yeah, let's create some challenges, like monsters and demons so that we can test our powers!
Then she went forth and did it, Sophia, she created a god who was imperfect, and she put him outside the eternal realm. It's not that he's evil, he's just ignorant, he didn't even know his mother. He thought that he existed alone, so when he discovered the creative power inside him he started creating universes and worlds, using the image that he knew in his subconscious mind. And these universes resembled the eternal realms, but they were imperfect, for he created them out of his ignorance of the real good things.
Then he created other powers to assist him, and he put each one over each heaven. When he was done he said "I am the only God, I am your father, there is no other!", because he doesn't know how he came into existence.
The powers created other authorities, and lords, and angels, and they started producing mortal bodies to inhabit their creation. Then the chief ruler blew them from the immortal spirit that he possessed from his mother, and also from his counterfeit spirit of ignorance.
The humanities grew, they reproduced and filled the worlds, and the immortals had the adventure that they wanted, because they learned that material life is not easy.
Many of them were able to overcome the ruler and return to the place where they were in the beginning, but some of the immortals were taken captive, they started thinking that they belong to the gods, and that they must submit to their power, they forgot it completely.
And so they sent groups of illuminators from the eternal realms to summon the spirit that belongs to them, so that they may remember, awake, and return. These groups were attacked by the powers of the gods, because they envied their light and their freedom.
Demons came from the land and the sea. Sea peoples united themselves to destroy the immortals, but they could not do it, they were chased away and scattered. This is a very long story, but to make it short, there are immortals who are still asleep and fettered by worldly cares, and illuminators are still being sent from the eternal realms to awaken them.
Try to solve this: There is a veil that separates the universes below from the universes above. How could you hide something in a public place by using a veil?
By hiding it in plain sight. No one will question something if its common place. Only someone with outside knowledge will be able to illuminate that darkened mind and tear away the veil across reality.
Sounds like gnostic cosmogony to me.
In the sense that the veil is not placed over what is hidden, the thinking is right, but the veil is somewhere else, and it is active. When you remove a veil from your mind you are able to understand it, but you're still not able to reach it immeadiatly. Where is the veil, and most importantly, what is the veil?
I think the veil is the separation of mind from identification with the source.
I have been reading a paradigm-shifting book by physicist William A. Tiller, and he proposes the physical and "etheric" worlds are separated by the speed of light. Everything below the speed of light is dense physical substance, and everything above the speed of light is "etheric" substance. Approaching the speed of light theoretically requires an infinite amount of physical energy, and so is supposedly impossible and there is a sort of forbidden energy zone (without the right "vehicle" for transportation across it :) ) just as the shells of electron orbits have gaps around the nucleus of an atom. He ties this in to quantum physics and even solves where magnetic fields arise from without an electrical current being pre-existant: a particle dubbed the "magnon" that exists on the other side of the speed of light that corresponds to the electron as per Maxwell's Equations that relate the two forces of electricity and magnetism. He also demonstrates a lot of human capability to generate small electrical currents and even more subtle energies that defy conventional classification but influence the electrical level, supposedly from a quantum level.
13 days and i'm not sure i'm perpared. i guess i just need to step up my meditation and start meditating 3-6 hours a day. :-(
I bet nothing will happen. Dont wast ur time.
Quote from: no_leaf_clover on October 01, 2008, 01:53:27
I have been reading a paradigm-shifting book by physicist William A. Tiller, and he proposes the physical and "etheric" worlds are separated by the speed of light. Everything below the speed of light is dense physical substance, and everything above the speed of light is "etheric" substance. Approaching the speed of light theoretically requires an infinite amount of physical energy, and so is supposedly impossible and there is a sort of forbidden energy zone (without the right "vehicle" for transportation across it :) )
That's really interesting :-)
Here's a depiction of the gnostic veil that someone else posted here a while back:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/agochar/GnosticSoul.jpg
The original gnostics believed the veil is the physical world and the physical body, created by Satan to deceive man and keep him from knowing his true self and God. Some believe the veil is created by ego, and our goal is to alchemically transform ego into spirit, or something of that nature.
And I bet that CFTraveler knows much more about this stuff than me and my armchair mysticism :)
"Armchair mysticism". Lol. :lol:
The gods have been disturbed, can you feel it? 8-)
Quote from: Stookie on October 01, 2008, 11:55:24
Here's a depiction of the gnostic veil that someone else posted here a while back:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/agochar/GnosticSoul.jpg
The original gnostics believed the veil is the physical world and the physical body, created by Satan to deceive man and keep him from knowing his true self and God. Some believe the veil is created by ego, and our goal is to alchemically transform ego into spirit, or something of that nature.
And I bet that CFTraveler knows much more about this stuff than me and my armchair mysticism :)
I know nuthin'.
But I will say that in premedieval times the early christians believed that the sky was made of copper and was shaped like a dome- hence the word 'firmament'. (Which means 'firm'). However, my very little knowledge of ancient gnosticism revolves around a system of thought that involved a pseudo-god who created the world out of his own belief, not knowing he was the offspring of Sophia (knowledge). This stemmed from the idea that a god that creates situations that are not so good can't be so good. Hence the veil in which reality is dual, separating it from nondualism, which this pseudo god doesn't even know about, being limited in understanding.
As you can imagine, I don't subscribe to gnostic dualism but see why they thought what they thought...... :-D
There is a book called Alien Interview with information from Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy. It could just be some dang good made up story or truth. *shrug*
I have a PDF of the book which you can find in book stores in print as well. Pretty much it boils down to we are in a "prison" developed by the Old Empire which has been ran out of this part of the galaxy by The Domain. We are all spirits which were caught in "traps" or sentenced to this prison by the Old Empire. A younger government, as you may call it, now rules this area and is named "The Domain" and it's their ship that was downed in Roswell. Matilda O'Donnell MacElroy is the female nurse who was the one who received the mental communication between the "alien." Supposedly the spiritual being (aka: alien) would only speak with her and no one else. She had a pure and concerned spirit which it sensed. The spiritual being told her that 3000 of their own spiritual beings were trapped here. Yada-yada-yada. Point being, we are trapped here and reincarnated back with our mind wiped each time. In a short while (thousands of years our time) The Domain will remove the "traps" keeping us bound to this planet. They say maybe we can free ourselves by being more spiritual and unlocking our memory to escape.
Here is an interview with the author of the book.
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AfYoTsA_Cw
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=invQERQqgbo&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U_t4Lt1UXo&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmCsa2XmhA8
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXpYY5Nwswo
Ok, now I am NOT trying to offend anyone here with my next comment so please don't flame me. The spiritual being explains how religion was first created by the Old Empire to keep us in line, fearful, and to look to the Prison Guards as Gods. The Domain changed some things in the religion later when they ran the Old Empire out of this area. I personally keep an open mind because what's told in this book could be real. Then again it could have been a LOT of information on history made to look fake.
I hope my first post isn't going to start a fight =\
But anyways if the Federation of Light is here to open us up this goes along with what The Domain's future goals.
Quote from: CFTraveler on October 02, 2008, 15:07:28
I know nuthin'.
But I will say that in premedieval times the early christians believed that the sky was made of copper and was shaped like a dome- hence the word 'firmament'. (Which means 'firm'). However, my very little knowledge of ancient gnosticism revolves around a system of thought that involved a pseudo-god who created the world out of his own belief, not knowing he was the offspring of Sophia (knowledge). This stemmed from the idea that a god that creates situations that are not so good can't be so good. Hence the veil in which reality is dual, separating it from nondualism, which this pseudo god doesn't even know about, being limited in understanding.
As you can imagine, I don't subscribe to gnostic dualism but see why they thought what they thought...... :-D
Oops... I didn't mean to imply you subscribe to gnostic beliefs, I just assumed you're more knowledgeable on the subject than me. :)
I mean, come on, satan creating the world as an illusion - that sounds like a crazy science fiction movie involving people in leather and sunglasses doing kung-fu.
Quote from: Stookie on October 03, 2008, 11:19:52
Oops... I didn't mean to imply you subscribe to gnostic beliefs, I just assumed you're more knowledgeable on the subject than me. :)
I mean, come on, satan creating the world as an illusion - that sounds like a crazy science fiction movie involving people in leather and sunglasses doing kung-fu.
If Lucifer is a symbol for the mind then it makes sense.
I thought the gnostics called the creator either Yahweh or Yaldabaoth, not satan or lucifer-
Thanks for the vote of confidence Stookie- I have some gnostic friends and like some gnostic gospels (like the Gospel of Thomas) but not others. I didn't think you thought anything in particular, I just wanted to clarify that little detail.
I'm sure there have to be some gnostics around here that can explain their cosmology better, 'cause I really don't know nuthin'.
Quote from: Kazbadan on October 01, 2008, 08:14:50
I bet nothing will happen. Dont wast ur time.
Ha! Look who's still around.
Tomorrow is the big day! Cant wait... :roll:
The brain trust here at the Vitruvian Institute has confirmed that there will indeed be a large circular object appearing overhead the night of 14 October 2008 - the full moon. The inescapable conclusion: the Lunarites (i.e. 'loonies') are coming.
For the Institute,
Vitruvian
Somehow I feel that they indeed could be from farther away, say the orion constilation at the center star of orion's belt. (by the way my crystal was taken.)
Somethings definitely going on today... cuz I can't think of anything smart-@ssed to say about it.
So where is it? Where is the UFO we were promised? Come on!
:-P
The day has not ended, and already you have lost faith.
It's a media blackout, they already came I am on the mothership now.
LOL. Yeah, things aren't looking too promising for the fervent believers. To be fair though, one of the channelings stated:
QuoteWe WILL do as we say and before the 15th Oct has come to pass in all corners of your globe this event shall have come to fruition for all to glory in. We shall surprise many in how this all comes about. We say this to you people of earth who are in anticipation of the greatest vibration ...
So I'm willing to give it until the 16th but chances are looking slim. Plus who knows what they mean by "We shall surprise many in how this all comes about." Maybe the surprise is they DON'T show up on the 14th and pop in on 15th instead? Either way you want to spin it, if nothing shows up by the 16th there's no amount of theorizing that would excuse the message of "We will definitely show up and everyone will definitely know it." Already there are posts and videos saying.. "well, this was a test by the aliens and look at how we've all united as one.." NOPE. They promised a ship and I want that ship! But apparently Steel Hawk is there already! How is it? Do they have space nachos?
You know who I feel most sorry for? The guy that runs this site:
http://www.10-14-08.blogspot.com/
(Yeah, I got it back!)
according to http://www.matthewbooks.com/mattsmessage.htm , it can arrive anytime between now and february because of the nature and progression of linear time. Not quite sure what that means but it may make sense.
Oh sure, now it's FEBRUARY! Heck, I just sold everything but my sleeping bag (in case the Mothership doesn't have bunks) . . . what am I supposed to do until February??
Vitruvian
I thought they was supposed to broadcast on all channels and through our minds, well i wouldn't have seen it anyway i fell asleep.
Quote from: Vitruvian on October 14, 2008, 20:30:36
Oh sure, now it's FEBRUARY! Heck, I just sold everything but my sleeping bag (in case the Mothership doesn't have bunks) . . . what am I supposed to do until February??
Vitruvian
Serious or Sarcasam?
"If safety cannot be assured for people on the planet and souls in the star nations themselves for their announced appearance October 14, the delay in that occurrence would not be lengthy--simply, the time for this has come. And when it happens, it will be extremely disruptive especially within the US government..." From Matthew's message
Blossom's blog isn't accessible..
http://blossomgoodchild.blogspot.com/
Yeah, she locked it down to only "subscribers" or users she allows. Which absolutely makes sense if you had a chance to catch all the hateful, spiteful comments that were being left there. I do expect her to come out and say something about this though.
QuoteSerious or Sarcasam?
See my previous posts in this thread - my idea of humor.
Vitruvian
PS - just to put a fine edge on it, I'd go with 'facetious':
1 : joking or jesting often inappropriately : waggish <just being facetious>
2 : meant to be humorous or funny : not serious <a facetious remark>
then explain why my mom and I's geoed crystals just vanished, I left it there for a couple weeks and it disapeared just a week ago, and my mom says her crystals also disapeared from her secreat hiding space which only I know where it is and i'm like 2-3 hundread miles away. and no one here has even known that I left my crystal outside. so explain that.
I doubt Blossom Goodchild will show her face again. In all likeliness, she used this as a ploy to sell her books and profit, and my bet is she took the money and ran. It wasn't here real name, who knows what she'll go by now, and she's probably retiring on the beach in Tahiti with gullible people's cash. She knew her "Galactic Federation" crap wouldn't work much longer and figured it was time to cash in or get out.
I suppose it's possible that it was really channeled, and she really believed it, but it was some just some frat ghosts playing a prank on her. If that's the case, I bet they're doubled over laughing right now. Another reason not to believe anything channeled.
It's both irresponsible and cruel to play off of peoples' hope for a better world. It's also a warning: Don't believe any channeled message, no matter how much "Love and Light" it's full of. Channeled messages are always either wrong or unprovable, and the new age movement is more full of it than Christianity. Find your own reality, stop believing in someone else's.
It seemed like bs from the start, but I must admit, I'm still a little dissapointed. I mean, seriously, I'm like freakin waiting for a miracle to pull me out of this mundane rut, just like just about everybody else. A little strangeness and exitement couldn't hurt, c'mon. :-(
fail...
:D
oh well...now i still have 4 more years until the next fail >.<
QuoteIt seemed like bs from the start, but I must admit, I'm still a little dissapointed. I mean, seriously, I'm like freakin waiting for a miracle to pull me out of this mundane rut, just like just about everybody else. A little strangeness and exitement couldn't hurt, c'mon.
I agree - I would love for things to get a little more exiting in my life too. But if past experience has proven anything, it's don't expect the change to come to you - you have to make the change. Waiting for aliens to do it for you is, well, kinda silly if you think about it.
If there's anything we all could get out of this is that it's important to take responsibility for things and vote and become involved in change because it's OUR responsibility, not aliens', or mayans', or Gods'. So many people have been relying on some kind of return or revelation that will fix everything and get rid of all the evil doers and spread light and love. In all honesty, I'm not sure we deserve that yet. And if it does happen, I hope it gets me by surprise and I don't have to learn about it from new-age channeler. Expectations bring disappointment.
So I leave you all with this: For only $199.95, I'm holding a weekend seminar where I can teach you the basics of responsibility and how to drop your old belief system for this new, improved one. Sign up within the next 10 days and you'll receive a free t-shirt that says "I attended the Stookie Pookertine seminar of responsibility and all I got was this t-shirt... and a fat dose of reality".
LOL. :-D
Quote from: Stookie on October 15, 2008, 13:11:12
Sign up within the next 10 days and you'll receive a free t-shirt that says "I attended the Stookie Pookertine seminar of responsibility and all I got was this t-shirt... and a fat dose of reality".
I'm up for that!
So, any news on what 'special date' is going to replace the October 14th craze?
I want to buy books about it and and start making dramatic youtube videos as soon as possible.
the new date is ambiguous; cited several days to weeks of waiting. The reason for the no show was because it would've caused more harm than good, ie people in fear
sigh i could have told you that...
Well, you can assign value to any date you pick. I'm sure any time in January would be good, or February. That way people won't be thinking of the holidays (and election day in the US will be over.) Oh-wait, I've got it! Election day is as good a doomsday as any, don't you think? Oh, I'm getting some gnarly ideas myself.
Maybe we can start our own doomsday prediction. :evil:
I think one of the canidates for the election is the beast, I can't tell which one though.
i've already seen the so called dooms day, and it isn't pretty, it's quite horrible.
When you do this PLEASE make sure your domain isn't registered by her friend, Alexandra Marler (NOT BLOSSOM!!) Please please use false info of someone you have a huge dislike for ok? That when the death threats come, as I have seen on other forums, you won't loose a drear friend.
WHOIS can be evil...
Quote from: kurai kokoro on October 15, 2008, 22:46:38
I think one of the canidates for the election is the beast, I can't tell which one though.
i've already seen the so called dooms day, and it isn't pretty, it's quite horrible.
Ha! Has to be McCain!
He doesn't fool me with that homo-erotic blinking. Watch out for the beast and his army of republican bigots! :-P
This is just like political campaigning... all talk and no action.
War, money, power and the "american dream".
It never changes....
yeah you got that right, and so much for the so called "freedom" when the government subjegates people over seas they should realise that many of us start thinking about what true freedom is. being able to do what you want without harming others, they said it was about harmony and peace but the subjegated become the masters eventually. some people say we are blind, but now the government is becoming the ones who are blind.
I was wrong about Blossom Goodchild in that she didn't take off with cash to Tahiti. In fact, she posted a youtube video explaining herself, which she basically says she can't explain what happened. She said the reason she hasn't channeled them and ask what happened is because now she realized they lied to her, so she doesn't trust them anymore. And she finished it with "We don't need help from aliens, we can do this ourselves." At least she's taking a little, eh hm, responsibility for the mess.
She must have read my earlier post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm4v8ylAxTc
(Yeah, I watched the whole thing :( )
Once again, channeled information isn't reliable. It can be comforting, positive, loving, but not reliable.
Quote from: CFTraveler on October 15, 2008, 20:12:26
Well, you can assign value to any date you pick. I'm sure any time in January would be good, or February. That way people won't be thinking of the holidays (and election day in the US will be over.) Oh-wait, I've got it! Election day is as good a doomsday as any, don't you think? Oh, I'm getting some gnarly ideas myself.
Maybe we can start our own doomsday prediction. :evil:
I've got a good one: 11-11-11
With all those elevens people with HAVE to believe it. And they'll believe it even more after donating money to the cause of spreading the word of the triple eleven. And it gives us 3 years to keep it going, rather than Blossoms crummy 6 weeks.
There you go! :lol:
scams cause allot more harm then good dude. but if your just joking then okay.
Yes, I should note, that was sarcasm. After all, I'm still trying to pay back the money to all the senior citizens I ripped off in my driveway-paving scheme.
lol sorry dude I'm mostly seriuse when I speak sometimes you'll get that shine of sarcasm or a little joke, though I hardly have a sence of humor, go figure eh, I guess I just Don't have one yet. (shrugs) all well In my oppinion humor just gets one in trouble most of the time but thats just me.
Yeah, I've been bad at making all my posts a joke lately (with some seriousness too). But if I took all of these topics 100% serious I'd probably be another new-age nut. And who knows, maybe I am...
Me too, just in case... just kidding! I guess we better go back to Sarcastics Anonymous.
well don't stop on my account course it's not my decision.