Michio Kaku talked about the solar cycle on Fox News on Thursday. “We made a mistake,” he said, speaking about industry calculations about solar flares. Kaku believes the cycle will peak around 2012. The Internet, Fox, television, cable, satellite TV could all get “wiped out around 2012″. NASA agrees, predicting the next solar maximum should be a “doozy.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hujQg2E_fDw
A lot of people for many years have witnessed a phenomena (myself included) where we always see the number 11:11.
Nobody ever really new the meaning of this, why were people noticing the time 11:11? some people would just get some urge for no reason to view the clock and it would be 11:11.
Well i've got news for you, on the 21st December 2012 (the date the mayan calendar ends) the Winter Solstice begins at exactly 11:11am Universal Timezone.
Not only this but for the first time for thousands of years the Sun will line up precisely with the exact centre of the Milky Way galaxy. The Sun lines up with the central "band" of the Milky Way twice every year but only once every several thousand years does it line up precisely with the exact centre and this will occur at 11:11am on 21st December 2012.
The Sun goes through 11 year cycles of intensity. The sun come December 2012 will be at it's peak activity meaning it's going to be extremely rough shooting off intense sun flares and having a high number of sun spots.
Just look at the date 21st December 2012. (21/12/2012). Add them up and what do you get?
2+1+1+2+2+0+1+2=11 so even there we get the very important number of 11. It's almost like a last ditch effort to get people to wake up and realise something is happening.
I can tell you what is happening. Our planet is evolving and ascending to the 4th density but it does so in the same way a cell splits in 2 and multiplies. Those who are ready to ascend along with the Earth will ascend to the 4th density as well and once there they will have the most fantastic spiritual awakening.
Those not ready for ascension though will be left behind on the 3rd density Earth, and they will be the ones who suffer the long foretold and prophesied cataclysms. The ones foretold by the Bible and the ones foretold by Nostradamus.
What about all my electronics do they get to come with me into the 4th density?
Ill tell you what something is definitely coming, be it small or big. So many things are so far out of "normality" its mind blowing. Ive been studying legitimate natural science studies lately (solar activity, Schuman resonance, weakening magnetic north, crazy weather patterns, rapidly accelerating number of and intensity of earthquakes, increasing sporadic volcanic activity, galactic gravitational pulls, galactic alignment etc etc etc etc) and corralating natural phenomena together with human actions and attitudes. Something is not right, Something is going on.
Whether something is going to happen or not you have to admit, we as a collective consciousness are going through some interesting times. Open you mind and eyes, forget all you think you know, and pay attention, meditate you will see what I mean.
I would like to share with you all 10 videos, please watch them all as they explain sooooooo much of what things are, how things work, what is going to happen etc etc.
These 10 videos are all of the same lecture and lecturer, the entire link I give you take you to a playlist so you don't have to do anything, when the first video stops the second one starts automatically so just sit back, relax and enjoy these 10 vids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEf7Iv_6QDk&feature=PlayList&p=45D076DB88A007B6&index=0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEf7Iv_6QDk&feature=PlayList&p=45D076DB88A007B6&index=0)
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on August 01, 2009, 13:35:48
What about all my electronics do they get to come with me into the 4th density?
An interesting thought, no way of knowing until the transfer/ascension to 4th density actually occurs and then we will find out. I think more than likely yes they will, the entire planet and everything on it will be effected by the change of vibration. Those who are "evil" or closed minded and service to self will have too low a vibrational frequency to ascend.
Technically speaking the 4th density is already there, we are just unable to actually see it, same as our eyes are unable to "see" microwaves for example. When we ascend our consciousness and physicality will evolve and will allow us to perceive the higher density.
Thanks for the link Oblivion, I just gone done watching it.
I watched an interview of him back in 2004 where he talked about all the same topics but without the fancy power point presentation. I love how he related everything to TV shows and movies.
A few years back on his website i sent him a couple of emails about his experiences and to my surprise he responded immediately. He is definitely the real deal and a very nice guy as well.
According to the Mayan Calendar all the planets (including the sun) - redacted -. This doesn't mean the end of the world but it does mean a new beginning.
Based on the resources listed on my site, what will happen is not exactly known but there's no doubt there's going to be a great struggle of some kind.
2012 is the new Y2K. Alot of predictions, information, and conspiracy about the topic but not enough education in the mainstream to encourage people to do real research about the subject them selves. Instead you have youtube videos and cult followings of the end all fantasy.
In my honest opinion, if your really scared of 2012 you shouldn't be. If your prepared in the etheric world, what happens to you in the physical won't effect your life after your body dies. The world only exist because your aware of your self.
Quote from: slavefree on August 03, 2009, 16:53:31
According to the Mayan Calendar all the planets (including the sun) will be aligned exactly. This doesn't mean the end of the world but it does mean a new beginning.
I hate to be the barer of bad news but no, the planets do not align in 2012. The Sun does however line up with the centre of the Galaxy from the perspective of the Earth.
I fixed the post.
I know so much and yet I still talk out of my butt :roll:
Quote from: Oblivion on August 02, 2009, 14:41:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEf7Iv_6QDk&feature=PlayList&p=45D076DB88A007B6&index=0[/url]
The pituitary gland/acorn thing was interesting... I was open to these vids, but he made himself out to be an incarnation of Edgar Cayce simply because he resembles him? Come on!
When he started using American movies in an attempt to illustrate his points he lost all credibility to me. If you want to be taken seriously, don't go and quote movies
I think it's a good idea to use tv shows and movies to illustrate his points. For example he used Stargate SG1 a couple times, which i think is a perfect example of how a top secret facility is run in real life. I also found that chair he was talking about very interesting. I would definitely like to know how that works.
OK, so that whole video was mind blowing, in that it made a lot of connections and possibilities real. I can't wait for the sh** to hit the fan when crazy events happen so suddenly, but the true test is at 11:11 12/21/2012, and he was saying that to proceed correctly is to be what?? Did he say to be spiritually sound and right; like practice OBE, active chakra; be forgiving, loving, etc. ??? And if ur a choosen to ascend then u evolve beyond means!??? I don't really know his exact interpretation, so i'd like to hear ur's ...
Let the levitation begin.
I think what he's saying is that we will shift our consciousness to the etheric plane (4th density) while others will remain on the physical plane(3rd density). Also, the astral planes (5th density) will be easier to access. There are many similarities between the etheric plane and astral plane. Such as healing, levitating, instant teleportation, and telepathy.
ok, that's what i came to conclude too. So we'll be ever incorporated into these planes? Or we'll just leave the physical plane and not return. OR, the planes will be meshed together and tricky things happen, and we'll be all in one planes, but not moving through time ever again, just playing w/ conscience and creation of thought. We'll ultimately shed our needs for lower planes and eventually transcend to the toppest tier planes. I'm not sure in what time frame this elapses in because space-time and time space are meshed ... yeah, the craziest possibilities.
What would be really cool to live through is the events in this sequence, all proceeding eachother progressivly
1) Chaos period
-world destruction, chaos, ect.
2) The big switch
-people start ascending slowly, starting at their own paces
-conscience is taking over
-creations of whatever start
3) War periods
-superhero wars
-(later on) godly wars
4) Complete ascension
-those who belong in the wholy grace of eternity are enveloped
-and life is started over again
i don't really care if it does, but that'd be epic!!
ps- why i thought this could be possible is because Wilcock said, it's up to your input.
Now if he meant, like Nostrodamus meant, that there's an option to proceed or fail, then that'd be aight too. If i heard right too, then those who proceed will evolve, like our dna will change like the crop circles depicted, because at which plane we achieve, it'll resonate w/ our dna and mutate us to become super human, godly, what ever.
I'm interested to see what percentage of people will ascend to the 4th density. My guess is 50%, which means about 3.38 billion will remain here and have to face earthquakes, volcanoes, pole shifts, solar flares and whatever else might happen.
What grounds do people have for thinking that there will be an ascension at all?
I always hear this ascension to the 4th/5th/6th denisity/plane/dimension/vibrational level stuff whenever someone brings up a new special date, and people also talk about the service to other-service to self thing, sometimes in close conjunction with the lizard people stuff. In 1997-1999 it was the "photon belt" ascension. 2001-2003 was planet X. Granted, the 2012 thing has been in popular culture since the 70s, and is the first of these dates that I know of to be discussed openly by the public at large, I still don't see any basis for the ascension logic other than, "If it is gonna happen at all, it is gonna happen then", sorta arguments.
I wonder who came out with the Planet X / ascension idea.... the whole thing has to be bigger than just Zachariah Sitchin and David Icke.
I am not at all saying that any of the aforementioned is necessarily untrue or not going to happen, but rather that these claims have been made before, and that if they are to be believed now, it would require some powerful evidence and arguments, and I have not encountered either yet, aside from the Mayan standby (they were really good at astronomy and date-keeping, and arguably predicted some hard-to know stuff, but didn't to my knowledge mention any ascension).
I would love to ascend and spend some time in the 5th density, and use my cool new soul powers as much as the next cat :wink:, but no one to my recollection has given a good reason yet why that would happen, other than that they really want it to. :roll:
Stillwater
The grounds i am basing my assumptions on are the thousands of hours of research i have done on the subject. Reading hundreds of government documents, interviews and books.
Here are just a couple of people I would reccomend looking into:
In 1964 Bob Dean, a Command Master Sergeant, was given access to a copy of a document called "An Assessment". Dean stated that there were only 15 copies, one of which was kept in the safe. He said he read it every chance he had, being able to access the document because he had Cosmic Top Secret Clearance, As would be expected in the case of such a high-security classified document. "The Assessment" concluded, in 1964, that there were four different extraterrestial civilizations visiting Earth, but by Dean's retirement from the military in 1976, he claims, the report stated that there were at least twelve different extraterrestrial civilizations visiting Earth. He did an interview with Project Camelot in 2007 which he said would be his final interview. Where he talks about extraterrestials, Ufos and 2012.
Duncan O'Finioan was brainwashed, conditioned and controlled as part of a highly classified MK-ULTRA program called PROJECT TALENT. From a thousand others trained as a child in 1966, he is now, he believes, only one of 20 left alive to tell the story.
Twenty years later, Duncan (who is of mixed Cherokee and Irish blood) comes forward to tell the truth about the Ultimate Warrior project: how he was chosen, groomed and tortured into becoming the perfect fighting machine, combining physical superiority with the extraordinary mental abilities of a psychic spy.Fearless, principled, and determined to regain control over his life, Duncan O'Finioan tells his story in detail.
David Wilcock is a professional intuitive consultant who, since reading Richard C. Hoagland's "The Monuments of Mars" in 1993, has intensively researched ufology, ancient civilizations, consciousness science, and new paradigms of matter and energy. He is the author of a critically acclaimed trilogy of scientific research works, known as the Convergence series, which gives definitive support to the idea that a change in matter, energy and consciousness is now occurring on the Earth and throughout the solar system.
All you can do is gather the evidence and make conclusions. It is my personal opinion that these men are not lying and have had contact with spiritual and extraterrestial entities. These three, as well as many others have been contacted and told what will happen in 2012. They are good people and want to help prepare us for whats coming. So like i said before, watch all of their interviews with Project Camelot and also any seminars they might have done. They are all free to watch on the internet.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on August 03, 2009, 23:49:50
I'm interested to see what percentage of people will ascend to the 4th density. My guess is 50%, which means about 3.38 billion will remain here and have to face earthquakes, volcanoes, pole shifts, solar flares and whatever else might happen.
Another theory to that is that you've gotta die before you can ascend too. ;)
I've read and watched many things regarding it and *ALL* of them are sketchy at best regarding HOW the ascension process will happen.
In any event if something DOES happen, what percentage of people will live and what percentage will die?
Has anyone ever heard of the pope prophecies of St Malachy?
I'm not a biblical person myself, i'm not Christian or anything like that but I do believe the Bible has some basis in truth especially when it comes to the "end times".
St Malachy was a member of the Catholic church on the 12th century if my memory serves me. He wrote down the names of 112 popes that would come to power in the Vatican from his lifetime to the "end time".
The current pope, Pope Benedict XVI is the 111th pope since St Malachy meaning there's only 1 left to take power in the Vatican before the "end time".
If Pope Benedict XVI dies within the next 3 years and another takes over then that's just one more thumbs up to the whole 2012 subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8kCYk1LgSA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8kCYk1LgSA)
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QuoteHas anyone ever heard of the pope prophecies of St Malachy?
I'm not a biblical person myself, i'm not Christian or anything like that but I do believe the Bible has some basis in truth especially when it comes to the "end times".
St Malachy was a member of the Catholic church on the 12th century if my memory serves me. He wrote down the names of 112 popes that would come to power in the Vatican from his lifetime to the "end time".
The current pope, Pope Benedict XVI is the 111th pope since St Malachy meaning there's only 1 left to take power in the Vatican before the "end time".
If Pope Benedict XVI dies within the next 3 years and another takes over then that's just one more thumbs up to the whole 2012 subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8kCYk1LgSA
That is interesting, I should reasearch that
QuoteDavid Wilcock is a professional intuitive consultant who, since reading Richard C. Hoagland's "The Monuments of Mars" in 1993, has intensively researched ufology, ancient civilizations, consciousness science, and new paradigms of matter and energy. He is the author of a critically acclaimed trilogy of scientific research works, known as the Convergence series, which gives definitive support to the idea that a change in matter, energy and consciousness is now occurring on the Earth and throughout the solar system.
I don't know- he says a lot of intriguing things, but he doesn't really bother trying to prove it in those videos. As I said before, if someone makes a grand claim, but doesn't bother to support it with substantial credible evidence, then this person is essentially asking others to make a leap of blind faith, and the kind that would do that are not the kind you want to have as your followers, and conversely, if he would ask others to do that, that undermines his own credibility.
He appears to be a decent person, but he strikes me as someone who has spent his life researching conspiracy theories, and has tried to knit them all together into one satifying master theory- he is definitely not the first to try that.
He claims that there are some 50 such "looking glass" devices the size of football stadiums hidden underground around the world, and while I don't doubt the U.S. government does much that the public never becomes aware of, the idea that the resources and personnel could be diverted to a project that collosal without anyone noticing or speaking up until now is staggering. I have honestly never encountered this looking glass idea until now, and I am familiar with a great deal of this conspiracy theory stuff. Something that big would not have gone undetected that long. It would be like trying to hide 10 NASAs all operating at once.
The problem that I have with sources such as these videos is that they
state that, and don't even address
why it is that, or how exactly
how we can know that.
I can't inductively disqualify all such sources, only having seen a few, but I am afraid you must provide something stronger to make a tenable argument.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on August 04, 2009, 12:11:11
In any event if something DOES happen, what percentage of people will live and what percentage will die?
Pick a random number between 1 and 6,000,000,000... ;)
Ok, we'll use that number. lol
Quote from: Stillwater on August 05, 2009, 09:49:09
He appears to be a decent person, but he strikes me as someone who has spent his life researching conspiracy theories, and has tried to knit them all together into one satifying master theory- he is definitely not the first to try that.
If you read his website you'll find he didn't believe in any of the conspiracy theories before 1993. He is only helping other people to understand the truth. I don't think these guy's sit around making up stories saying, "look how dumb these people are that will beleive us". Becuase the fact of the matter is most people don't believe them.
Quote from: Stillwater on August 05, 2009, 09:49:09
He claims that there are some 50 such "looking glass" devices the size of football stadiums hidden underground around the world, and while I don't doubt the U.S. government does much that the public never becomes aware of, the idea that the resources and personnel could be diverted to a project that collosal without anyone noticing or speaking up until now is staggering. I have honestly never encountered this looking glass idea until now, and I am familiar with a great deal of this conspiracy theory stuff. Something that big would not have gone undetected that long. It would be like trying to hide 10 NASAs all operating at once.
Bob Dean talked about the looking glass devices and said they were placed in capsules from humans 43,000 years in the future. They are the size of a football he said, not a football field.
Quote from: Stillwater on August 05, 2009, 09:49:09
The problem that I have with sources such as these videos is that they state that, and don't even address why it is that, or how exactly how we can know that.
I can't inductively disqualify all such sources, only having seen a few, but I am afraid you must provide something stronger to make a tenable argument.
I guess i don't understand why these people would all be lying. What do they have to gain? Most of what guys like David Wilcock talk about information they receive from retired black ops personnel. The guys that have retired from the Air Force, Army, Nave, CIA signed 20 year non disclosure documents that are punishable by prison. As well as losing there pension. But after those 20 years are up some of them are coming out with there stories to let others know what is going on.
Quote from: Stillwater on August 05, 2009, 09:49:09
I can't inductively disqualify all such sources, only having seen a few, but I am afraid you must provide something stronger to make a tenable argument.
I have heard this from a thousand skeptics before. I don't understand why you would want to inductively disqualify these sources? Arguments have been made to go to war with far less. There are declassified government documents, testimony from men who have worked at these facilities. What else do you want?
QuoteBob Dean talked about the looking glass devices and said they were placed in capsules from humans 43,000 years in the future. They are the size of a football he said, not a football field.
Unless I misunderstand something fundamental about what Wilcock was saying here, he states that the device used in project looking glass was this leviathon aparatus, with massive rotating rings, and he showed a human scale figure beside it, who might have been 1/30th as tall as the device at best. His direct quote: "
It is built in underground bases, it is Collosal in size."
Now unless I have made some error, and what you have said is true, one of these two, Dean and Wilcock, must then be either lying or confused.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIzzBkxgL14&feature=PlayList&p=45D076DB88A007B6&index=4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIzzBkxgL14&feature=PlayList&p=45D076DB88A007B6&index=4) (about 6:30 onward)
QuoteI guess i don't understand why these people would all be lying. What do they have to gain?
You have to remember that the rules of logic don't apply like that in this situation- any number of things could be true-
1)they could be lying
2)they could be telling the truth
3)they could be telling what appears to them to be the truth, but is actually a delusion
4)they could be severely deluded in everything they think at all
I can confidently say that I have encountered many such people making extraordinary claims, and I must admit that I could see no motive for them to be deceptive, and they even appeared credible to me, but nonetheless, they were later proven to be lying or painfully mistaken.
QuoteI don't understand why you would want to inductively disqualify these sources?
I think you might have mistaken me here- I do not have any desire to prove them wrong. I want instead to steer people away from believing people who make outrageous claims they can't support, that is all. The question is not whether they are right or wrong, again, it is a matter of whether or not they can defend their claims. The world is not a more magical place if stories like this prove true, and it is no less magical if they aren't.
I didn't know he had a website- I will read through it, and give you my thoughts on that later :wink:
Quote from: Stillwater on August 05, 2009, 13:36:44
I think you might have mistaken me here- I do not have any desire to prove them wrong. I want instead to steer people away from believing people who make outrageous claims they can't support, that is all. The question is not whether they are right or wrong, again, it is a matter of whether or not they can defend their claims. The world is not a more magical place if stories like this prove true, and it is no less magical if they aren't.
So what about all of the people in this forum who make outrageous claims? I'm pretty sure there is no proof for OBEs and Astral projection and anyone that claims they can do it has no evidence.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on August 05, 2009, 13:49:45
So what about all of the people in this forum who make outrageous claims? I'm pretty sure there is no proof for OBEs and Astral projection and anyone that claims they can do it has no evidence.
Forgive for interfering but I see a real basic misunderstanding here.
People in an OBE forum share their experiences and some teach others to do it, because it enriches their life for some reason, and if others want to learn the information is available. It's why I do it- because it has enriched my life. I don't come into a forum to impress anyone (in fact, I don't discuss it unless it's personal friends I can trust) with my stories. Now, I don't care if anyone believes it's possible or not- for all I care they can believe it's a delusion (heck, sometimes I believe it is, but it's fun and nontoxic, so why not) or just a mind game. So the reason most of us post here is to help those who want to learn, to make the process easier, so they can enjoy it too. Then, if and when it works for them, maybe they'll share their discoveries.
Now, the 2012 conspiracy thing is wholly different.
You have a group of people, who have an eschatological belief. In other words, a belief about the 'end times'. This belief (that the end is coming near) is based in fear. It enriches no one, and it helps no one to make their lives better. Why do I say this? Because most of the people who believe in 'doomsday' theories also believe in conspiracy theory- that we are powerless, that we have nothing to say about what is going to happen.
If you look behind conspiracy theory, all varieties consist of the idea that 'those' who are in power are either
-part of a larger conspiracy to achieve total power. In control of all media, sometimes including theirs, and no matter what happens in the news, good or bad, is being manipulated by someone that has this power.
Or,
-Part of some sort of 'alien' (extraplanetary, extradimensional, or some other variation) conspiracy to either keep us slaves or regain our slavery (depending on which conspiracy you're looking at). Now the thing is, no matter what conspiracy you are attracted to, both are basically the same in that:
'They' are technologically superior to 'us', in the sense that they hold all the cards and control. You have mind control, invisibility, and possibly paranormal powers. So if someone else can be in control of your thoughts, what can you do about it? Nothing. You are powerless.
Now, if you believe in a prophecy that combines the lack of understanding of an ancient culture, and latch on to prophecies made by someone who is not of that culture, and then establish a cult around that, you have 'believers'; that is, people who will believe what is preached without questioning the source or motivation of those who have embraced it.
What is the motivation? Simple- there is no motivation. For some reason, some of these people have attached their belief to these ideas, regardless of whether they are real or not- and like any good theory, there will be some truth in it, and some fantasy. But it doesn't matter, because once enough people 'believe' in something it becomes it's own reality.
Others of course, stand to gain something from promulgating this type of thing. Control is a good one. Some people just love telling others how to think and what to believe, others really think their truth is the truth and it must be believed. So control is a biggie, both for the manipulators and for the believers.
What you have to ask yourself, is what is the inevitable result of someone telling you that 'life as you know it' is about to end, and there is nothing you can do about it, because it's not in your hands'- what do you think is the natural outcome of this thinking?
And, given the natural outcome of this thinking- possible mass suicide, possible mass homicide (provided they absolutely believe this is inevitable) or some sort of 'mass uprising' against the 'controllers' or their 'puppets'?
I can tell you that if I were a religious fanatic intent on destroying the world to accelerate what I thought was the 'return' of a messiah, this would be one of the lines of thinking I would disseminate around.
I'm just after the truth.
It doesn't matter to me what conspiracy anyone believes in.
The truth is the only thing that matters to me.
QuoteSo what about all of the people in this forum who make outrageous claims? I'm pretty sure there is no proof for OBEs and Astral projection and anyone that claims they can do it has no evidence.
I feel there are fundamental differences between the material we are a discussing and OBE.
For one, it has been actively researched, and there are reports availible documenting this research. Charles Tart has dedicated the latter part of his life to studying OBE, and has written reports of cases in which he believes individuals he was studying obtained information about the world around them, such as physically inaccessible numbers. Robert Monroe founded a research institute that performed similar tests, and still functions today.
A large number of individuals here post validations that they claim they made to themselves, and although these cannot be accepted on an individual basis for lack of evidence (which doesn't detract or reflect on the people themselves, just the nature of our exchanges on the internet), they do appear to correlate to a large degree.
In short, OBE is a widely known concept that can and has been scientifically tested. It is accepted, at least as a psychological phemonenon, by most if the neurological field.
I as an individual can never hope to encounter a "looking glass" device in my lifetime, and must essentially take other people's word for it that it exists, without ever seeing a photograph, or building plan, or getting to meet and question for myself a person who claimed to have worked there, but I can easily go to my bed, and with a little practice, investigate OBE for myself- that is a supreme difference, for like an elementary physic's concept, ordinary people in their everyday lives can test it on their own terms, and perform their own validations.
I am not saying that there aren't possible means to test the validity of Wilcock's claims, but I have searched fairly hard without encountering them. I did encounter this:
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=241&Itemid=30 (http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=241&Itemid=30)
QuoteFOODS YOU SHOULD NEVER EAT
Most of us know that food itself cannot be considered poisonous. Very few of us know that pleomorphic bacteria, yeast, and fungus and their toxins, which are characteristically present in stored and fermented food, are using our food chain as a Trojan Horse.
The following list of foods are high in pleomorphic bacteria, yeast, fungus and mold and produce mycotoxins that have been documented to cause specific diseases and very specific organ lesions in both animals and in humans and should never be ingested.
Pig meat including sausage, bacon, salami, and ham are fully fungal colonized and contain the fungi Aspergillus ochraceus which produces the mycotoxin Ochratoxin A, associated with many different documented cancers.
Tobacco contains yeasts and sugars which ferment the tobacco into the form which reaches the human blood and tissues causing disbiosis of the blood and tissues leading to every degenerative disease known including cancer, diabetes, arthritis, etc.
Mushrooms are not a vegetable but rather the fruiting body of a fungus whose major form of existence, the root-like mycelium, is hidden in the soil. This fruiting body is but the means to disperse the seed-like spores of the fungus throughout the blood and tissues. For example edible mushrooms induce bladder cancer.
Corn and all associated products over 25 different strains of fungus...all disease causing and several cancer causing.
Peanuts & Cashews contain over 27 different strains of fungus...(high levels of cancer causing fungus) Note Jimmy Carter family with high incidence of cancer.
Barley contains the fungi Aspergillus ochraceus which produces the mycotoxin Ochratoxin A associated with many different documented cancers.
Animal meat and poultry including beef, lamb, chicken, and turkey contain the fungi Aspergillus ochraceus which produces the mycotoxin Ochratoxin A associated with many different documented cancers.
Alcohol, including wine and especially beer, contain the fungus Aspergillus ochraceus which produces the mycotoxin Ochratoxin A.
Dairy products including milk, cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese, ice-cream, butter, etc. are fully colonized with fungi and contain the fungus Aspergillus ochraceus which produces the mycotoxin Ochratoxin A. These foods are also high in sugar which promotes the production of pleomorphic bacteria, yeast, and fungus.
Eggs are fully colonized with fungus and contaminated with mycotoxins.
STORED GRAINS AND CEREALS ARE FULLY COLONIZED WITH FUNGUS AND CONTAIMINATED WITH MYCOTOXINS.
Stored potatoes are fully colonized with fungus and contaminated with mycotoxins.
Sugar including honey, maple syrup, corn syrup, sucrose, rice syrup, barley malt etc. promote the growth of pleomorphic bacteria, yeast, fungus, and mold and suppress the immune system response up to five hours.
Vinegar or apple cider vinegar acidifies the blood and tissues which promotes the production of bacteria, yeast, fungus, and mold.
Yeast in any form including Brewers Yeast. (Remember that most breads contain yeast.)
Caffeine in any form acidifies the blood and tissues which promotes the production of pleomorphic bacteria, yeast, fungus and mold.
High fructose fruits acidify the blood and tissues and feed the production of pleomorphic bacteria, yeast, fungus, and mold. For example, APPLE JUICE IS CONTAIMINATED WITH THE CARCINOGENIC MYCOTOXIN PATULIN WHICH IS DERIVED FROM THE FUNGUS AND IS ASSOCIATED WITH STOMACH CANCER.
Dried fish contains the Aspergillus fungus and the extracts from the dried fish contain large amounts of aflatoxin.
Devitalized salt changes the negative charge on the blood cells causing them to stack or combine into symplasts which can lead to oxygen deprivation, congestion, poor circulation, stroke, and/or heart attack.
Hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils like margarine, shortenings and vegetable oils are altered fat substances which are known to be detrimental to health because they interfere with normal biochemical processes. These oils have been shown to increase cholesterol, decrease beneficial high-density lipoprotein (HDL) interfere with our liver's detoxification system, and interfere with essential fatty acid function.
So, in essence, one shouldn't eat sweets, meat, eggs, any kind of dairy, pretty much all bread and grain, about half of fruits, staple vegetables like corn and potatoes, etc.
So one should live soley on soy, and a few select vegetables, but definitely not bread, rice or grain.
I think you can legitimately eliminate over 95% of all food eaten on earth in that list.
now i wouldn't mind having a raw, organic, non-gmo, superfood diet ... and all those listed foods to not eat are ok with me ... but unless someone tries a lifestyle like that and publishes it, no one will know how beneficial it is
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on August 03, 2009, 22:31:27
Let the levitation begin.
I think what he's saying is that we will shift our consciousness to the etheric plane (4th density) while others will remain on the physical plane(3rd density). Also, the astral planes (5th density) will be easier to access. There are many similarities between the etheric plane and astral plane. Such as healing, levitating, instant teleportation, and telepathy.
Does that mean - in this context - that we are all going to die but some are going to the astral planes to reside, without having to return to a physical body while the guys who will stay in third density will have to?
Or is the 4th density, still a physical plane and you can take your body with you?
But what about those professional astrologers, you know: the guys who chart birth charts, the predictions of "you are going to live up to 50 years will marry with guy blabla", and the guys and gals who work, as tarot card dealers? Does this 2012 thing invalidate everything they say?
Quote from: Sadd-e Eskandar on September 05, 2009, 09:43:10
Does that mean - in this context - that we are all going to die but some are going to the astral planes to reside, without having to return to a physical body while the guys who will stay in third density will have to?
Or is the 4th density, still a physical plane and you can take your body with you?
But what about those professional astrologers, you know: the guys who chart birth charts, the predictions of "you are going to live up to 50 years will marry with guy blabla", and the guys and gals who work, as tarot card dealers? Does this 2012 thing invalidate everything they say?
"I'm interested to see what percentage of people will ascend to the 4th density. My guess is 50%, which means about 3.38 billion will remain here and have to face earthquakes, volcanoes, pole shifts, solar flares and whatever else might happen."
My, we'd return to the stone age, wouldn't we? The strong only would survive, no more morals and ethics; most would die. Could that create a stronger, more powerful race or would that spell the end of our species.
I too, see 11:11 everywhere.
Many times I'm doing whatever, I get the urge to look at the clock: 11:11
Another strange thing is that I was born on the 11th of november..
11/11..
My ex girlfriend was born on the 22th
11+ 11= 22
22 -11 = 11
She's a very spiritually oriented lady.
I think, if a disaster happens in 2012, it will be worth the trouble just to watch the guys who run around shouting "I'm the special 4th density love and light multiverse spirit god oneness who will ascend to my higher self!" get fried by solar rays.
I think a lot of people need to stop confusing the 4th density and the other higher densities with the Astral and Etheric planes.
The Astral and the Etheric are a part of the 3rd density where we currently reside, they are levels of this density which we are able to access via our pineal glands.
When we ascend to the 4th density we leave the 3rd density behind and that also means leaving behind the Astral and Etheric planes.
Quote from: Oblivion on September 06, 2009, 12:32:38
I think a lot of people need to stop confusing the 4th density and the other higher densities with the Astral and Etheric planes.
The Astral and the Etheric are a part of the 3rd density where we currently reside, they are levels of this density which we are able to access via our pineal glands.
When we ascend to the 4th density we leave the 3rd density behind and that also means leaving behind the Astral and Etheric planes.
I think your the one that's confused. The Etheric Plane is a term introduced by Charles Webster Leadbeater and Annie Besant to represent one of the planes of existence in neo-Theosophical and Rosicrucian cosmology. It represents the fourth[higher] subplane of the physical plane (a hyperplane), the lower three being the states of solid, liquid, and gaseous matter.
There are six major planes existing between the physical earth plane and the "Source". These are not separate areas of existence, but frequencies or states of being interpenetrating each other. The heavier the matter the lower its frequency. Earth and similar planets being the heaviest, with the Source the finest and lightest.
Inside each of these planes there are many dimensions and grid systems as well. Connections between planes are by way of portals of dimensionality. It is through experiencing various planes of expression that the soul is able to obtain information and utilize it and then send it through portals into dimensions.
You're the one confused, we have absolutely no way to get into the 4th density because it's too far above us right now until 2012 when evolution takes a massive leap forward and we have the ability to change our physical vibrational frequency, the very matter we are made of and our DNA mutates.
The Astral and Etheric planes are simply places in the 3rd density our consciousness can explore. We never actually leave our bodies it is our consciousness exploring the 3rd density by use of the pineal gland which allows us access to time space, a level of reality where time and space are flipped inside out which allows our consciousness to explore and access anywhere in 3rd density. The greater the access and working condition of the pineal gland the deeper you can explore in time space.
If you've not explored and researched information beyond that of Astral or Etheric travel then you really need start as quickly as possible.
If you really are confusing the Astral/Etheric planes with densities of existence then you're really doing yourself a disservice.
Quote from: Oblivion on September 06, 2009, 15:26:43
You're the one confused, we have absolutely no way to get into the 4th density because it's too far above us right now until 2012 when evolution takes a massive leap forward and we have the ability to change our physical vibrational frequency, the very matter we are made of and our DNA mutates.
The Astral and Etheric planes are simply places in the 3rd density our consciousness can explore. We never actually leave our bodies it is our consciousness exploring the 3rd density by use of the pineal gland which allows us access to time space, a level of reality where time and space are flipped inside out which allows our consciousness to explore and access anywhere in 3rd density. The greater the access and working condition of the pineal gland the deeper you can explore in time space.
The pineal gland or third eye is only one chakra of many that allows our consciousness to explore and access all densities, not just the third.
Quote from: Oblivion on September 06, 2009, 15:26:43
If you've not explored and researched information beyond that of Astral or Etheric travel then you really need start as quickly as possible.
Yes, astral and etheric travel is the only thing i have researched... But as you said I am even confused about that.
Quote from: Oblivion on September 06, 2009, 15:26:43
If you really are confusing the Astral/Etheric planes with densities of existence then you're really doing yourself a disservice.
It all depends on your sources of information. I might be wrong but this is what i believe the following terms mean:
Density: Density denotes a vibrational frequency and not a location, which the term "dimension" implies. The density structure of this reality is primarily expressed in seven levels, though each level has sub-levels within it. The density scale is a model used to communicate one's perception of orientation in relation to other realities.
Dimension: Dimension refers to one's location in space/time rather then a person's vibrational frequency (density). Webster defines "dimension" as "Magnitude measured in a particular direction, specifically length, breadth, thickness or time." There are an infinite number of dimensions existing with a given density or vibrational frequency.
Frequency: Matter is vibrating energy. Different vibrationary rates denote the properties. Frequency is the rate at which molecules or consciousness vibrate.
As for the various planes, there are hundreds if not thousands of books and articles on those. Understanding all of these concepts is not easy and takes a considerable amount of time and effort. You might want to expand your search beyond 2012 prophecies if you really want to understand how everything is connected.
Astral and Etheric travel is just the tip of the iceberg, my research took me well beyond that tiny area long ago. You need to stop thinking in levels and start thinking in awareness. The Astral doesn't have levels, when you sleep the pineal gland switches on, now the problem too many people have is they assume the pineal gland is merely the location of a chakra and they don't understand the pineal gland actually has a physical purpose when it comes to out of body experience. The pineal gland is a machine that evolved over time for a purpose, it's a tool that when accessed can be used to see beyond the body and explore the 3rd density at a greater awareness (go research what a pineal gland is actually made of, it has properties of an actual eyeball and it's got those properties for a reason). In the physical we exist in space time, the pineal gland is a tool that accesses time space (it's a place where time and space turns inside out) and our awareness is no longer bound by the physicality of space.
The pineal gland is like a TV, it switches on during our sleep and if you gain access you can change the channels, you can remote view, you can explore. The pineal gland can see anything within the 3rd density and turns it into information which is processed by the brain.
The 4th density, the density above the 3rd density which we are currently in is a whole different ball game. It's all well and good and very spiritually awakening to be able to use your pineal gland to see the 3rd density in a different perspective but that's nothing compared to when we eventually ascend to higher densities of existence.
The higher densities actually exist at different vibrational levels whereas Astral travel is actually nothing more than travel within the 3rd density being seen from the perspective of the pineal gland. The vibrational changes you experience in Astral travel is actually the change in the level of electromagnetic radiation in the gland.
Fluoridation of the water supply and the introduction of aspartame to the populace has been done in an attempt to shut down the greater workings of the pineal gland. Did you know the pineal gland has the greatest amount of blood running through it than any other organ of the body? The very same rods and cones found within the eyes, can also be found within the composition of the pineal gland. With this similar type of physiology, the pineal gland allows us to visualize or imagine scenarios, fantasies, memories, dreams or any other visual constructs. Have you ever heard the expressions, "in the mind's eye," or "the third eye" or "the sixth sense?" These phrases are all referring directly to the function of the pineal gland.
These rods and cones found within the eyes that are also in the pineal gland are what takes in information and processes it into an out of body experience. The Pineal gland has water in it which when effected with a slight electromagnetic field causes a flip from space time to time space and the rods and cones process the information.
Our current level of existence, these bodies we are in are very limiting. When we advance to the 4th density not only will our vibrational level change but we will also evolve, our DNA will change and our bodies will change and we will gain a greater awareness.
Eventually we will evolve and ascend beyond physicality, we will no longer be trapped within the universe we currently perceive and we will exist as simply consciousness.
Oblivion...
You're a David Wilcock fan! :)
I've listened to just about every interview that guy has given, he's smart... I'll give him that.
But he's also a very scary person.
His theories are... intriguing, to say the least.
I think that someone should retitle this thread
there we go
Quote from: Xanth on September 08, 2009, 09:46:10
Oblivion...
You're a David Wilcock fan! :)
I've listened to just about every interview that guy has given, he's smart... I'll give him that.
But he's also a very scary person.
His theories are... intriguing, to say the least.
He is just one of hundreds of people who's books I've read or who's videos I've watched. What he has to say is just one piece of a much larger puzzle but even people like Wilcock isn't right on everything. It takes a lot of reading and research from many different sources before you can come to an accurate conclusion and that includes actual scientific data and analysis from scientists who have nothing to do with "new age" thinking.
rofl
... or we can just accept that if something happens then something happens.
If not, I'll see ya'll in 2013. ;)
Well numerous sources including the Mayans of our current time would indicate that the changes began in 2007 and will go on as far as 2016. But then the singularity we are approaching (or the 'wave') is set to hit its epitome in October 2011. A lot of information out there seems to say that the 2012 end date was actually 2011 but was moved to coincide with the Galactic alignment.
See you in 2012? or see you in 2017? :wink:
There's definitely something going to happen, there's far too much information out there which is too impossible to just shrug off.
Channelled information however? doesn't sit right with me. :wink:
I have one piece of the puzzle: My studies of consciousness lead me to believe star alignments and equinoxes have a significant impact on the way people think, (a lot of people here know that) but they also impact the way the world around you behaves - even inanimate material. The fields given off by celestial bodies contain data, and that data influences everything physical and mental.
So if something significant happened to Earth's fields (as predicted, crossing the galactic equator), the data could change everything, even without a disaster. New minds could have access to the planet, new species could appear, new incarnation systems, things like that.
Or it may just be small changes, I wouldn't know.
Quote from: zareste on September 08, 2009, 13:46:08
(as predicted, crossing the galactic equator),
We won't be crossing the equator unfortunately for another few million years, we've already crossed it and are on our way north.
I was thinking of something but the wrong term sprang to mind
I don't think the energies we are moving into alignment with are understood by science (yet).
But I can't deny we are moving into something different. It may be energy that is totally unrelated to space or time. That is why the 2012 date seems to be pre-ordained, so to speak, by the Mayans, as well as by the dramatically accelerated rate of change in a number of senses as the midnight hour approaches. When you can view time as a line, or a circle, in which all points in time are simultaneously visible to you, then I'm sure you would see these peaks of conscious evolution. It is happening now to an unknown extent; it happened also during the Renaissance, during the "Enlightenment Age." It has happened many times in the past and will continue to happen in the future as we will eventually lose consciousness in order to gain it back again.
I can't give you facts, out of a peer-reviewed study, but the obviousness of all of this is demonstrated to me in a number of different (independent) ways, such that I can't deny it even if I didn't want to believe it. To deny it is to try to kill it with your being. Why anyone would want to kill such a beautiful thing, is beyond me. But it is also why these times are always so challenging, because the majority of people in our Western societies are NOT going to understand or be very prepared for these things.
Just ask yourself, are you excited about the future, or does it concern you?
Does the collapsing economy excite you, or does it concern you?
Does increasing civil unrest excite you, or worry you?
Does the thought of your city being decimated and desolated excite you, or scare you?
The people who were left over after the "French Revolution" were the ones that decided "France's" fate, that MADE it a "revolution" as opposed to just a "civil war" or even "massacre," "tragedy," etc., even though it was truly ALL of those things! Think about it: ideas really do shape the world you live in. And things really do change. Just consider where you are right now, in this country, at this point in time.
Why does something "bad" have to happen now?
Nothing bad is happening at all; that is my whole point!
exactly man, maybe if people were more used to change, then they'd understand it's good to shed the old, live in the new. When people get ticked off about their horrible fate of no-action, then it will start. Zero-point energy from within.
I don't understand why people say they want to be open with people yet they won't be open to philosophy or politics. I really am eager to put my effort towards a revolution, and i think it pretty much is already happening.
But what do you mean nothing bad is happening now? Of course not YET, but look at all the setups towards it ... and then you'll see why we must act now right? If corruption wishes to fight behind peoples backs, then it's best to find the snitch through numbers and trust.
Quote from: no_leaf_clover on September 08, 2009, 14:58:42
Why does something "bad" have to happen now?
Nothing bad is happening at all; that is my whole point!
Sure it depends on your personal "take" on things as to whether something is "bad", "good" or just
is..
But tell that to some of the people living in 3rd world countries.. especially those where global warming is affecting their everyday lives...
in some of these countries like Bhutan... ice/snow is melting and running down mountains and into their town causing flooding (which is new)... & this is occurring at no fault of their own but because countries like yours & mine have a "need" for coal fueled electricity.. and our governments spend, spend, spend but
will not help us move more quickly to a sustainable source of electricity.. in this regard they move about as fast as my Avatar :cry:
In any case...
One thing is abundantly clear... the Earth needs to shed a few billion people, and will in one fashion or another eventually.
Humanity can't sustain this pace forever.
Everything will be fine... we'll just have to make a few small changes, like having to wear this all the time:
(http://libarynth.org/_media/fire-suit.jpg)
Quote from: Stookie on September 11, 2009, 11:29:40
Everything will be fine... we'll just have to make a few small changes, like having to wear this all the time:
(http://libarynth.org/_media/fire-suit.jpg)
ROFL
Well at least the MEGA EARTH SURVIVING SUIT industry will be thriving! :)
They do actually make reasonable thermal radiation suits that look like regular clothes. Although, i'm not exactly sure if it's the sun's radiation from solar flares that we should be worried about.
Anyone read the book 'Mass Dreams of the Future' by Dr. Chet Snow?
I looked for it in eBook format online but I couldn't find it. The only books I read these days are eBooks. The great thing about them is that they are free and don't take up any space. I've got about 20,000 total, most of which I still haven't read. Nevertheless, never before in history could you own 20,000 books. :-)
I've not read it myself but considering buying it. Apparently this Chet fellow does hypnotic progression where instead of taking people into the past or past lives he takes them into their supposed future. What he noticed was many people gave the same kinds of details of Earth changes and cataclysms.
i wonder if that's the higher being in all of us that is speaking when it's being questioned about the future. that is our destiny, his plan for us, and it's based on weather we take the guidance or not which decides the future.
Quote from: Oblivion on August 01, 2009, 13:07:59
A lot of people for many years have witnessed a phenomena (myself included) where we always see the number 11:11.
Nobody ever really new the meaning of this, why were people noticing the time 11:11? some people would just get some urge for no reason to view the clock and it would be 11:11.
Well i've got news for you, on the 21st December 2012 (the date the mayan calendar ends) the Winter Solstice begins at exactly 11:11am Universal Timezone.
Not only this but for the first time for thousands of years the Sun will line up precisely with the exact centre of the Milky Way galaxy. The Sun lines up with the central "band" of the Milky Way twice every year but only once every several thousand years does it line up precisely with the exact centre and this will occur at 11:11am on 21st December 2012.
The Sun goes through 11 year cycles of intensity. The sun come December 2012 will be at it's peak activity meaning it's going to be extremely rough shooting off intense sun flares and having a high number of sun spots.
Just look at the date 21st December 2012. (21/12/2012). Add them up and what do you get?
2+1+1+2+2+0+1+2=11 so even there we get the very important number of 11. It's almost like a last ditch effort to get people to wake up and realise something is happening.
I can tell you what is happening. Our planet is evolving and ascending to the 4th density but it does so in the same way a cell splits in 2 and multiplies. Those who are ready to ascend along with the Earth will ascend to the 4th density as well and once there they will have the most fantastic spiritual awakening.
Those not ready for ascension though will be left behind on the 3rd density Earth, and they will be the ones who suffer the long foretold and prophesied cataclysms. The ones foretold by the Bible and the ones foretold by Nostradamus.
the bold bit adds up to 12 not 11.
Quote from: Realisation on September 20, 2009, 11:17:56
the bold bit adds up to 12 not 11.
Please explain it looks like 11 to me
2+1+1+2+2+0+1+2=11
2+1+1+2+2+0+1+2 = 11
and
((21*(1*2) - 20)(1)/(2)) = 11
21 + 12 + -sqrt(2012) = 11
So, the fact that I was born on the 11th of the 11th month of the year means something? :-P
Can't say I'm not looking forward to the event. If I ascend(which I doubt)that will be cool.
But I think I will be here when the cataclysm happen and that will be an even greater Adventure(for me).
Actually, I have it from an inside source that Dec 21st, 2012 will be the day the world economic system collapses!!!
True story. :)
Quote from: Xanth on September 21, 2009, 11:35:39
Actually, I have it from an inside source that Dec 21st, 2012 will be the day the world economic system collapses!!!
True story. :)
You mean that hasn't happened yet?
If you take "True story." and add up the number of letters with the space and the period, you get... 11!!!!
Quote from: Stookie on September 21, 2009, 11:56:12
If you take "True story." and add up the number of letters with the space and the period, you get... 11!!!!
Also if you add 1 + 1 you get 11, and if you add 2 + 3 you get 11, a ham sandwich and a refrigerator to go with it. You may not believe me now but..... :wink: :lol:
Quote from: no_leaf_clover on September 21, 2009, 23:30:43
Also if you add 1 + 1 you get 11, and if you add 2 + 3 you get 11, a ham sandwich and a refrigerator to go with it. You may not believe me now but..... :wink: :lol:
I shall never be hungry again!
Cause all I have to do is add 2 + 3! Thank you!! :D
NOM NOM NOM
Xanth, don't you mean economic apocalypse?? That's what I heard too, from gerald celente. but i only heard ...
Quote from: radman32 on September 23, 2009, 00:40:29
Xanth, don't you mean economic apocalypse?? That's what I heard too, from gerald celente. but i only heard ...
... you say tomato, I say tomoto! :)
Either way... WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! ... kinda. :D
Yeah, but it's a lot more fun to die with a bang(apocalyptic disasters) than it is, to die from old age :lol:.
Quote from: Sadd-e Eskandar on September 23, 2009, 16:48:24
Yeah, but it's a lot more fun to die with a bang(apocalyptic disasters) than it is, to die from old age :lol:.
Hell, I don't know about the rest of you but I'd live through an apocalypse any lifetime.
That's like prime pickings on the life-experience market.
Quote from: no_leaf_clover on September 24, 2009, 22:11:05
Hell, I don't know about the rest of you but I'd live through an apocalypse any lifetime.
That's like prime pickings on the life-experience market.
I dunno...
I'd like to think I came here at this time to relax in a nice quiet time. >_< LoL
Quote from: Oblivion on August 01, 2009, 13:07:59just get some urge for no reason to view the clock and it would be 11:11
I had an urge to view this forum and then an urge to view this thread. By the time I had finished reading your message and turned to the clock, it was 11.11 (am) here in the Uk. That is the first time I have looked at the clock since setting out of bed around 3 hours ago.
Thats some freaky excrement right there.
Last night I looked at the clock and it was 12:22.
The other day I logged into my ISP e-mail account at 10:35 PM. It said the last time my Inbox had been refreshed was at 11:11 PM.
Right now it's 5:05 pm in my computer.
I have 6:20
6 * 2 is.... 12!!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaAAaaAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
This month I celebrate the 11th anniversary of my 11th birthday!!!!!
Wrap your minds around that synapse-melting tautology.
I don't think that you can..... it has some terrible implications for the stability of space-time, and perhaps some 4th dimensional, nay, 11th dimensional consequences to be sure. :-D
Well, it's 3:43 right now. Hee hee.
For all you David Wilcock fans, he will be on Coast to Coast tomorrow night talking about 2012, major social realignment, galactic energy fields and potential for an ET disclosure even from the U.S. government.
So just to stir up more discussion... Assuming that the whole "ascend to 4th dimension" theory is correct, what do you think are the "ascendancy" requirements?
I personally think that we'll stay on earth but the effects that the "4th dimension" has will be open to those who are consciously aware that they're possible, which will result in a few at first and then more and more as we go.
If our solar system passes through an area of space with a higher vibrational frequency or higher dimension, it should allow for everyone to enter into this dimension. Although, it might take some kind of mental awareness to enter the higher dimension which some people won't have a problem doing, while for others it may take a couple years.
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Quote from: kurtykurt42 on October 18, 2009, 02:32:35
If our solar system passes through an area of space with a higher vibrational frequency or higher dimension, it should allow for everyone to enter into this dimension. Although, it might take some kind of mental awareness to enter the higher dimension which some people won't have a problem doing, while for others it may take a couple years.
What does the 4th dimension means in the sense of physicality?
Will sex still be possible and if it is, will it be like it's nowadays? It won't be possible to do it with people you don't love, right?
I'm just a little bit worried 'cause it might just get a little too boring.
I'm far too in deep with the beauty of the Physical to give it all away, just to become a mass of energy.
What can I say? Oh yeah, indeed. I am a Scorpio :evil:.
Quote from: Leannain on October 18, 2009, 12:42:21
What does the 4th dimension means in the sense of physicality?
Will sex still be possible and if it is, will it be like it's nowadays? It won't be possible to do it with people you don't love, right?
I'm just a little bit worried 'cause it might just get a little too boring.
I'm far too in deep with the beauty of the Physical to give it all away, just to become a mass of energy.
What can I say? Oh yeah, indeed. I am a Scorpio :evil:.
Personally, I think that if anything happens it will be more of a thought shift that will allow these "4th dimensional" things to be possible in this physical world, so I don't think there will be any more limitations put on us, I think that we'll discover some hidden abilities that we have.
Basically, I think (hope) sex will still be the same :-D
Quote from: Dusty2010 on October 18, 2009, 18:26:23
Personally, I think that if anything happens it will be more of a thought shift that will allow these "4th dimensional" things to be possible in this physical world, so I don't think there will be any more limitations put on us, I think that we'll discover some hidden abilities that we have.
Basically, I think (hope) sex will still be the same :-D
Ah. More "esoteric" abilities like: Astral projection, telepathy etc, would become possible for everyone, easily. I see. Well, yeah; Astral projection sure sounds nice(and must be very nice) but Leannain would choose to stay in 3rd dimension if 4th dimension means no more casual sex, sigh.
Quote from: Leannain on October 18, 2009, 20:49:05
Ah. More "esoteric" abilities like: Astral projection, telepathy etc, would become possible for everyone, easily. I see. Well, yeah; Astral projection sure sounds nice(and must be very nice) but Leannain would choose to stay in 3rd dimension if 4th dimension means no more casual sex, sigh.
Haha well I have to say I've done no really searching to find answers, this is just my hypothesis. I personally don't think that we'll ever not be allowed to have sex with anyone we don't love, but then again that idea seems to promote someone/thing watching over us, and I'm not a believer in that. I personally have never seen sex as anything that's bad at all unless you're using it for a means like in order to get something physical. If it's love, pleasure, or any other reason, then I think it's okay :wink:
I also don't really think it will be much of an option if there is a dimension shift, I think people will just be able to use abilities we've had forever without near as much training.
Either way, no one knows until it happens, so there is no fact of the matter. I'm just riding on through whatever happens 8-)
I'm curious about something. If our solar system does enter a part of space that alters the vibrational constant of matter and energy on earth, what is the difference between this and what happens to us when we die? If we shed our physical bodies and exist as our energy body how is this different from death? Perhaps, the entire planet will undergo the transformation similar to death that we all experience. Shedding it's physical form and allowing all matter in our solar system to be transformed into energy. I guess I'm just curious to know if we will exist as energy, matter or both.
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on October 31, 2009, 23:49:05
I'm curious about something. If our solar system does enter a part of space that alters the vibrational constant of matter and energy on earth, what is the difference between this and what happens to us when we die? If we shed our physical bodies and exist as our energy body how is this different from death? Perhaps, the entire planet will undergo the transformation similar to death that we all experience. Shedding it's physical form and allowing all matter in our solar system to be transformed into energy. I guess I'm just curious to know if we will exist as energy, matter or both.
That means that whoever is alive during that passage, will become energy? Can energy create physical matter at will? A body for itself, for example? Or am I cursed to be forever a mass of energy? Lets imagine that a crew of astronauts is in a mission. When they return, are they the only creatures of flesh?
Funny thought. I wasn't scared of the "end - of - the- world" scenario. It would be a great adventure. But, the thought of being forever(?) a being of pure energy... that is scary! I'm too much in love with the physical to become a being of energy :cry:
My guess is that, after spending some 'time' as pure energy, someone would get bored and coalesce into matter, and we'd start all over again. Provided that we, as consciousness, already exist as 'something other than matter', and energy then would be our vehicle. Since energy and matter are states, I don't see why we couldn't do it all over again.
Well, it's the Human "model"(body) that I am most in love with. Any one here has contact with a species that looks just like human beings?
Other humans. :lol:
Quote from: Leannain on November 01, 2009, 15:36:13
Well, it's the Human "model"(body) that I am most in love with. Any one here has contact with a species that looks just like human beings?
My dear,
there are things more beautiful than humans like...
CATS
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/0/01/Raaiding.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/a/a2/Jakenowavatar.png
Quote from: Tiny on November 03, 2009, 06:47:35
My dear,
there are things more beautiful than humans like...
CATS
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/0/01/Raaiding.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/a/a2/Jakenowavatar.png
I would go celibate :evil:
Quote from: Tiny on November 03, 2009, 06:47:35
My dear,
there are things more beautiful than humans like...
CATS
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/0/01/Raaiding.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/jamescameronsavatar/images/a/a2/Jakenowavatar.png
Yay for cats! I knew someday we'd see eye to eye.
I read somewhere that 'The inability of the public to think critically about scientific issues is just an unappreciated source of our educational and social woes'. If indeed the end of the world as we know it ( which does not mean the end of the world itself ) is coming then just wait and see for yourself but be objective meanwhile.
when you say 'objective', I don't think you mean 'objective' - you seem to mean 'passive', as in, everyone should let a potential disaster destroy everything
I just do not believe everything that I hear or read as a great deal of that information is often just begging for your dollar. Rather, I try to check for myself, as I believe 'seeing is believing'. And by the way, I don't know how you can be anything else but passive if the 2012 theory is to be taken as true.
I think the world has gone through quite a few of the 'end of the world' moments ( e.g. 2006/06/06 ). I try to be somewhere in the middle of things, much like a vibrating guitar string. Not falling into extremes, or at least trying not to.
Even if you find your own way to explore it - be it by OBE or whatnot, you're still going to remain just a passive observer. In my opinion, of course. The world will end but, in my opinion, unexpectedly.
I try to only focus on the truth. To me it doesn't matter how extreme it is. If another planet twice the size of earth starts approaching and alien ships start appearing everywhere, that's fine. If nothing at all happens, that's also fine with me. I don't believe this world will end anytime soon, although it may undergo some serious changes. Those that are ready to change will change along with it, and those that aren't ready won't.