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Title: The Matrix
Post by: Taoistguy on December 04, 2010, 19:40:19
Has anyone seen all the vids on youtube about 'The Matrix'? It's hard to fathom if they are talking about it as a form that is close to the film, or if they are being metaphorical?

Title: Re: The Matrix
Post by: Volgerle on December 05, 2010, 10:05:28
I think the main difference (and mistake!) of the Matrix movies is that they lay the "hardware" (and human consciousness trapped by it and 'wired' to it) as the fundamental basis.
Reality is the other way round. Consciousness is the computer and forms or even "IS" the 'divine' (as called so by G. Braden) matrix itself. Many progressive quantum physicists also talked about "the matrix" (long before any movies of this kind). I think that for example David Bohm did.
Title: Re: The Matrix
Post by: Taoistguy on December 05, 2010, 10:36:53
I just think it's misleading to people and makes you suppose/imagine we are all somehow prisoners and victims in some conspiacy. I tend to think we are like children who haven't yet gone 'outside'.

Title: Re: The Matrix
Post by: Xanth on December 05, 2010, 11:13:31
Quote from: Taoistguy on December 05, 2010, 10:36:53
I just think it's misleading to people and makes you suppose/imagine we are all somehow prisoners and victims in some conspiacy. I tend to think we are like children who haven't yet gone 'outside'.
You actually could consider that the truth.
We are the prisoners who DECIDED to be imprisoned... and the jailers and creators of the jail is US, we just forgot that fact.
Title: Re: The Matrix
Post by: personalreality on December 05, 2010, 11:20:05
the details are in the movie to make it a movie.

the theme is recognized as what Xanth described, prisoners guarding themselves.
Title: Re: The Matrix
Post by: horaciocs on December 05, 2010, 14:19:42
The goal of being here, I guess, is to have a narrower experience in terms that it can be more easily planned, executed and analysed, making for an easier way to learn whatever it is we intended to before "arriving" here.

However, many understand being in this "limited" state of conscience as a bad thing. As if someone put them there to cause them harm. I think it was all planned ahead by ourselves and everything goes on accordingly to the plan. We're subject to the influence of others, and it's up to us to follow our own paths and do what we feel are our true intents.

As mentioned by Volgerle on the "focus 1 success" thread, we're meant to reside inside the "limited" focus 1. We can, though, through methods yet to be made official, have access to other focuses of conscience, enriching our experience even more.