they are comming

[CFTraveler]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096071/

I remember that movie!  The music was good.  But srsly, this is historical, and I have been to Haiti.  It's a really interesting place.

[Stookie]

But at the beginning of the movie it says "based on a true story"!

I always figured it was just the part about the pharmaceutical company doing research on the drug in haiti, the rest being made up. Not my favorite Wes Craven movie.

[kurai kokoro]

disclaimer: I niether wrote nor do I accept resonsabilaty for any dangerouse stunts that may follow. and ask that no one Attempts anything they niether know nor understand.

http://neurophilosophy.wordpress.com/2006/05/24/voodoo-zombies-the-puffer-fish/

this is what I was talking about I saw a documentary from national geographic or something and it talked about the pufferfish which is poisionus to human consumption but yeah this is what I was talking about.

[Slix]

disclaimer: I niether wrote nor do I accept resonsabilaty for any dangerouse stunts that may follow.

(off topic, sorry) i'm sorry but i keep reading your spelling of dangerous (dangerouse) as 'dangermouse' and that one just cracked me up, i had to say something.


anyways, back to the original original topic, i used to swear i heared UFO-ish noises and saw lights through my bedroom curtains as a young child during the middle of some nights (back of the house so definately not cars passing by). i also used to have a recurring nightmare quite frequently (for around 5/6 years straight infact) where i was convinced this thing coming up the stairs was some sort of alien hell bent on doing something to me. that was until of course i got to around the age of 11, defended myself and blew it's torso-head thingy apart with my invisible rocket firing pump action baseball bat (no joke). never had it again after that. dont know if it was supposed to mean anything or what, just thought i'd mention it.

recently though i have been somewhat been very drawn back to aliens for some inexplicable reason, almost as if something is telling me to think about it. kinda feel that there's something important about it... i know it sounds sad but i keep checking BBC news for stuff on space or aliens for no other reason but "OMG I HAS TO LOLOL!", which makes me feel like an idiot... -.-

if there really are aliens out there on the way, or even already here then i'd highly doubt they'd be violent. if they were so violent a race they'd kill or enslave billions then chances are they'd have either killed themselves through nuclear war (or worse). even if they were, why come billions of miles to take over a planet? if they've travelled that far they would surely have made some sufficient technological advances in terraforming well before having the technology to travel so far, and probably would have no need for slaves as their robotics would be outstanding enough to do everything they required.

[kurai kokoro]

robots are typicaly pointless to possess, because for one where would the robot be that would pat you on your back, as said in the fith element, great movie btw because of the good points it made, anyway you would also have to consider this, even though there is good in the universe, there is also evil to balance things out without evil we couldn't possibly choose between the two we wouldn't have free will because of it, weather they are "aliens" or not I personaly beleive that they indeed aren't "aliens" but more like our kin.
       weather to destroy us or not we will only know when it happins and that is where we must hope that they are the good ones.
        ultimetly (it is choice which determines destiny, and not chance.) ~unknown source.~

[logan]

       my biggest concern is mearly this however, what caused it's trejectory and why?
the only conclusion i can come up with is this something forced it from it's orbit, weather it was another asteroid or something bigger something that could possibly be so much greater that we as humens are too proud to admit, but a ship readying for it time to come and reavile it's self.

Meteors come out of orbit every day, every minute, and most likely, every second. Hundreds of meteors hit the Earth every day. It isn't uncommon for one to come close, or even hit, the Earth. The only uncommon thing is for one of that magnitude to come at the Earth, but my main point is that it isn't weird for meteorite to hit the Earth or come close to hitting it.

[kurtykurt42]

robots are typicaly pointless to possess, because for one where would the robot be that would pat you on your back...

Why would robots be pointless?

As kokoro said, they are very good for performing simple tasks such as mining, building and hard labor.

You could work them 24 hours a day without them getting tired or over-worked and never have to worry about there emotional state.

You could also program them to pat you on the back. 

[Tayesin]

Kurai and Kurty,
Did you know our sun pulls all the comets and Asteroids into it?

It begins way out in the Oort cloud, where the Sun's gravitational pull reaches. So everything from there on in, including the Asteroid Belt, is being pulled into the Sun. As they come closer different gravitational effects cause movements and break-ups. At times planets or moons get in the way before these objects hit the Sun. At other times incoming objects from further out in space do disrupt the two major debris belts and hurl a bombardment into the inner planets. All of them have been hit many times over including our blue world.

It seems that a very long time ago, Mars had a massive impact from a large Asteroid or Comet. When the object ripped into Mars it created the deepest trench known to us so far, it caused a bulge with two of the largest volcanic growths and eruptions on the oppsite side, and it caused  a couple of miles in thickness of crust from the opposite side to be blown off into space. Big Imact that one, much larger than the one thought to have killed the Dinosaurs.. so we shouldn't be surprised to see Mars once had oceans and possibly life in some forms.

Little fact: It's currently estimated that each year the Earth gets around 15 million tons of incoming debris onto the surface. Cool isn't it? I always wondered why if you want to see history you have to dig for it. I did understand that erosion and natural movement accounts for a fair portion of the dirt over history, so I was really surprised to find so much actually makes it to the ground from space and helps to cover history as well.

[kurai kokoro]

well yeah but you would also have to take into account that alot of the time when volcanos erupt the ash and moltan rock cover alot of it as well I have had a theory once while i was still in school that when volcanos erupt more of the under surface becomes lava and that the planet recycles itself same with life all things go through a circular path in life and possably in death. but there is no way for me to confirme it. but what I was meaning is that a rock that big almost hit us can you imagine if that dwarf planet in the astroid belt was to hit us? it would be catastrophic unless say you was looking at it from a different angle.

[iNNERvOYAGER]

There have always been various humanoids on Earth, but these zombie types are coming up more often in dreams. Were its eyes yellow?

There was an account I read, where a person was taken by some grey-types and flown to a base on the back of the Moon. The grey-types were apparently workers, while the operation was run by a different humanoid type. He said they were like ordinary humans, but rather deformed. He didn't even want to look at them. These deformed people intend to kill all life on Earth and use it for their own purposes.

On another forum, I read another person's dream that he was one of the 'zombies' and he was running around shooting people. He noted that - despite being a 'zombie' - he considered himself more civilized than humans.

In any case there's a number of organizations out there (human and otherwise) who have their own intentions for the planet. Some want to wipe out all humans, some want to lower humanity's numbers, some just want to wipe out certain countries or races, some just want people to continue spreading. Most just stop by the planet on occasion to see what's going on here.

Eh, you're talking about politicians, right?

[Slix]

Oh geeze...
I saw that trailer during the previews for a movie recently, I forget exactly which one it was.
But, yeah... *sigh*

That movie is gonna cause so much mass panic... *rolls eyes*

You're thinking of District 9. Looked ok to be honest. After looking into it, it looks like the plot is like, they came for help, but we treated them bad, so they start retaliating. Also anyone who would panic over it is an idiot (although i suppose the world is full of them), most of the adverts have something in it to give away that it's a sci-fi movie trailer, and not some sort of documentary trailer.

Tbh if we do make contact with aliens i hope we're not as xenophobic as the humanity shown in this movie.

[CFTraveler]

One would hope not, but I think we are.  IMO Xenophobia is responsible for 99% of all conspiracy theory nowadays.

[zareste]

I figure, the masses know there are creatures stronger and smarter than humans - everyone does - they can't claim ignorance anymore. But will they admit it? Nope. It's always been fun to be the center of the universe, top of the world, and this society puts a lot of effort into keeping it that way. When people struggle for decades developing rockets for space flight - bragging about which country has 'conquered space' and how smart humans are for sending a clunky old rocket to the Moon - just to find someone else was wizzing around the galaxy with ease for the past 10,000 years, it's a little hard on the ego. Forget the conspiracy theories. The masses WANTED the government to cover that up.

So of course they'll react badly when a foreigner shows up and sets foot on the planet. That's just offensive.

I don't demand that these people change, though. I think it's fun being the odd one out - I like being that guy who can have a simple telepathic exchange with another humanoid while the other guys cower in fear.

[Slix]

i know what you mean, however nice and productive it may be for everyone to not be xenophobic, in some senses i love that they are because i can laugh at how utterly foolish they are. like yourself, i wont ever demand that they change their attitudes, because it's so amusing, however i would certainly encourage people change this attitude.

[Everlasting]

IMO Xenophobia is responsible for 99% of all conspiracy theory nowadays.

Yeah you better not mention the jews, it leads to cencorships on this forum and elsewhere.

[CFTraveler]

Yeah you better not mention the jews, it leads to cencorships on this forum and elsewhere.

[Stillwater]

Yeah you better not mention the jews, it leads to cencorships on this forum and elsewhere

As does mention of their past oppressors, in any context, lol.

In another forum, my post was censored because it contained the word "homogenous", and I shan't say why 

Respect for various groups is essential, but so is un-inhibited speech.

[kurai kokoro]

anyway back to the topic, most of you are concerned weather or not mankind is capable of accepting the fact that mankind is not alone, the only thing that determins the differance between you and them is that you as an individual is willing to accept that fact, however more then one person is more unwilling to accept it.
          to fear what we humans do not understand is human nature or perhaps it is because those individuals seek something to fear just for the adrinaline rush, the thing is the future is scary to some people because the only certain thing about the future is uncertainty.

[zareste]

What worries me is not simply the way humans think, but the fact that a lot of creatures out there think the way humans think, but have a lot more firepower

[kurai kokoro]

you don't know that. trust me if they wanted conquest we would have been gone for hundereads of years due to our radio broadcasting through artificail satilites.

[zareste]

Actually I do and you don't

[Slix]

we havent been broadcasting for "hundreds" of years, only for a max of around 140 years. however the point still stands... if aliens were intersted in conquest they'd have done it long ago. although there may be some beings out there who may seem to think like we humans think, you also must remember that we humans can show a lot of love and compassion as well as our destructive side, you just wont see the nicer stuff on the news often because, well, controversy always sells more papers.  

[zareste]

I can side with that

Generally, the smarter guys don't do 'conquest' the way we think of it. If they want something from you and you're not willing to give it to them, they decide how far they'll go to get it, and find the simplest, safest way to take it. Zetans for example wanted to study human genes but most humans disliked the intrusion, so they used diplomatic and psychological tricks, letting them step in and exploit people without any trouble. No sci-fi style ships shooting lazers or anything.

Secondly, the more organized humanoids can continue a mission for millions of years. Rather than tearing a planet apart, upsetting all life and getting the galaxy into an uproar over your actions, you would do better to mentally and genetically enslave your target over time.

Usually there is no conquest, but subtle exploitation.

Third, there is no 'us' or 'them'. Humans are not unified and neither are outsiders, so we really should cut out the race talk. Pft

[Slix]

you talk about knowing this stuff, and i assume you know through astral projection and the like, so others should be able to confirm if what you're saying is real and not something you may have inadvertently created in your projection as a result of thinking there are aliens out to enslave us.

i hope you dont take this the wrong way, but i'm not going to start to accept the idea that the universe is full of power hungry civilisations that act as you have described until someone other than yourself can confirm what you're saying via their own projections e.t.c. although i'll certaily listen and consider everything that is said otherwise and if i happen to confirm any of this myself i'll certainly post about it.

[Stillwater]

Well, there are multiple people here posting about similar occurrences here, but I think that does not get us any closer to the truth. Most of the same pitfalls associated with one person posting a statement apply to mutiple people posting it, since it is unclear whether or not they are getting the information from an outside source, or projecting the subconscious onto their experiences, as you say. It is nearly impossible to work out the truth as far as I can tell- the best I can suggest is to merely use "reason" when evaluating individual assertions.