This has happend before

[+Explorer+]

But they said the world would end in the year 2000 and in 6/6/06 but it never did. I wonder if something will actually happen. This world does need to change though.

[Clockwork]

End? no. change? Possibly, if the average joe can figure out what happened.


I blame the bible for everyone thinking the world will end at every turn

[Vibra]

There is way too much evidence to say nothing will happen. World end maybee, maybee not. I choose maybee not. Something extraordinary is going to happen. 2000 the information transfer system was to have a meltdown 6/6/06 was drummed up by the 666 Antichrist scare. I am not a doomsday guy or looking at this through any of my 3 fearful eyes. I am seasoned enough and intuitive enough to know BS when I see it. This is different. I can feel it in every aspect of my life. Open up your mind meditate on it (with absolutely no fear involved). Study as much as you can on 100% unbiased terms. Again OPEN YOUR MIND AND ALL EYES. Believe me I cannot wait for the day to come. You are correct this has happened before several times in Mother Earths/celestrial history. Its been a long time coming and we are blessed to all be chosen to be a part of this spiritual awakening.
Take care
Vibra

[CFTraveler]

But they said the world would end in the year 2000 and in 6/6/06 but it never did. I wonder if something will actually happen. This world does need to change though.

What has happened before?  I'm not understanding this whole thread.

[Starvingpercussionist]

I think he's inferring that 2012 is a false prophecy, and that false prophecies like that have occured before.

[Principle]

I think he's inferring that 2012 is a false prophecy, and that false prophecies like that have occured before.

2012 is not a prophecy about the end though, It's about change. A new cycle begins.

[Clockwork]

There is way too much evidence to say nothing will happen. World end maybee, maybee not. I choose maybee not. Something extraordinary is going to happen. 2000 the information transfer system was to have a meltdown 6/6/06 was drummed up by the 666 Antichrist scare. I am not a doomsday guy or looking at this through any of my 3 fearful eyes. I am seasoned enough and intuitive enough to know BS when I see it. This is different. I can feel it in every aspect of my life. Open up your mind meditate on it (with absolutely no fear involved). Study as much as you can on 100% unbiased terms. Again OPEN YOUR MIND AND ALL EYES. Believe me I cannot wait for the day to come. You are correct this has happened before several times in Mother Earths/celestrial history. Its been a long time coming and we are blessed to all be chosen to be a part of this spiritual awakening.
Take care
Vibra

Personally I don't see how that is possible. Check my thread for the reason why.

[Vibra]

Clockwork
Id enjoy checking out your thread. Please repost it. I am very interested in all info about this subject. History has not ever seen what is going to happen in a few years. I did not mean to infer that it has. Small bits and pieces have been thrown in throughout time to prepare us for the upcoming awakening. I will enjoy your thread
We will all be going through an interesting transformation Just like clockwork
Vibra

[Clockwork]

Its actually right under this one. Essentially what is going to happen is going to reverse an event done a long time ago.

[Celest]

it should be fun guys..whether we are out of here or changing on earth..there is definitely going to be a party..with good sounds (House music if possible)

[volcomstone]

How many times has it happened before?

        What would a glacier do to New york city? A million years would probally erase all traces of human civilization. A million years is nothing. 

                    Just how many times have we been this "advanced?"  Excavations of ancient cities (middle-eastern Baghdad, jerusalem, turkish cities, egypt) are turning up more and more ruins, extending the known time of inhabitation further and further into the past.
   

I've heard references to Hopi legends claiming this is the third time.  How many Pangea (gondwana land) cycles has there been? How can we really ever know?     

When the rocks containing the fossils of our past gets recycled in the earths mantle, our memory is erased. 

We can say that we're the "most advanced" civilization, how will ever really know?  Everything turns to dust.  Those who know try very hard to keep the truth from us, just like the dark ages.

       

[CFTraveler]

I understand why the dark ages happened, but

Those who know try very hard to keep the truth from us, just like the dark ages.

What would be the purpose of this?  Who benefits, and what is the benefit?

[PissedOff24]

I understand why the dark ages happened, but What would be the purpose of this?  Who benefits, and what is the benefit?

Because then, they can keep controlling the mindless sheep, they will continue to have vast amounts of power and wealth, and they will not be threatened by anyone. Get it? If EVERYONE were to awaken to their true spiritual reality, they would be totally screwed.

[zareste]

Even if you're correct (and you are), the people you call sheep are hierarchists all the same. They dream of dominance, they want others to suffer for them, and they can only be considered victims in that they have to live in the world they created. If anything, the people at the top are the ones being manipulated. If one of them falls, they'll be replaced by someone just like them. They were brought up in societies that expect them to live and die for an agenda without question - they just happen to be better at it than most people. They are caught in a situation where everyone expects them to call the shots and take all the blame, their parents and friends thrust them into these positions, they don't have a moment of peace, everyone is out to get them, and yet everyone uses them as the yardstick by which all evil is measured. They are simply going through the motions given to them by the collective.

People cannot stop the guys at the top any more than they can stop breathing. They are your puppets - your scapegoats - the instrument of your guilty conscience. As long as they are 'in control of us', we don't have to give a crap about what we do.

If anyone out there really wants to save the world from destruction, then QUIT DESTROYING IT

[CFTraveler]

Because then, they can keep controlling the mindless sheep, they will continue to have vast amounts of power and wealth, and they will not be threatened by anyone. Get it? If EVERYONE were to awaken to their true spiritual reality, they would be totally screwed.

Perhaps I wasn't clear-
The modern perspective of history, like when civilization started, etc....
If scientists publicly announced that say, civilization started 20 or 30 thousand years ago, give or take a few thousand,  instead of six thousand years ago or so.... if scientists discovered and announced Atlantis and Lemuria existed and announced it to the world- if the governments that haven't done so yet publicly admitted they know that extraterrestrial life is possible, and possibly here- how would that change anything at all regarding today's power structures?

[PissedOff24]

Even if you're correct (and you are), the people you call sheep are hierarchists all the same. They dream of dominance, they want others to suffer for them, and they can only be considered victims in that they have to live in the world they created. If anything, the people at the top are the ones being manipulated. If one of them falls, they'll be replaced by someone just like them. They were brought up in societies that expect them to live and die for an agenda without question - they just happen to be better at it than most people. They are caught in a situation where everyone expects them to call the shots and take all the blame, their parents and friends thrust them into these positions, they don't have a moment of peace, everyone is out to get them, and yet everyone uses them as the yardstick by which all evil is measured. They are simply going through the motions given to them by the collective.

People cannot stop the guys at the top any more than they can stop breathing. They are your puppets - your scapegoats - the instrument of your guilty conscience. As long as they are 'in control of us', we don't have to give a crap about what we do.

If anyone out there really wants to save the world from destruction, then QUIT DESTROYING IT

Are you KIDDING ME?? Everything you said was things I already knew - unlike the sheep, I actually question my reality and know that there is more to the world than what is presented to us by them. They, unfortunately, think that they care about them. What a joke.

[PissedOff24]

CFTraveler, if they ever said that aliens existed, then the entire system that we live by today would be considered void, and shut down. Absolute chaos would ensue, because you have all these religious nuts and people who "just can't take it" (ie the people who pretend to be happy and wear masks, yet pop pills such as antidepressants when nobody is looking). Mental hospital admissions would go through the roof. I'm sure people would not even want to work or follow anything in society anymore.

[CFTraveler]

But the thing is, that a lot of governments have admitted it- even the UK did recently.  The only gov. that I know of which continues to deny this is the US, and I don't know anyone who doesn't think it's at least possible.  Most people I know either think that 'they're here' or think they 'could be'.  Maybe they wouldn't admit it publicly, but they still think so.  So no, the 'fear of chaos', etc. theory just doesn't really convince me.

[zareste]

I can't account for every alien cover-up (different cases can have different reasons to be classified), but there's a group of humanoids that has a tight grip on the US and UK governments, and they try to stay hidden. Most cover-up orders are - without much doubt - coming from them.

[volcomstone]

They are caught in a situation where everyone expects them to call the shots and take all the blame, their parents and friends thrust them into these positions, they don't have a moment of peace, everyone is out to get them, and yet everyone uses them as the yardstick by which all evil is measured.

   Too true, everyone is a cog in the proverbial machine.  People at the top keep the "system" running, for personal gains or for altruistic gains (keep people working).  Can you compare a head-manager of wal-mart to a head-manager of a defence contractor?   

If scientists publicly announced that say, civilization started 20 or 30 thousand years ago, give or take a few thousand,  instead of six thousand years ago or so.... if scientists discovered and announced Atlantis and Lemuria existed and announced it to the world- if the governments that haven't done so yet publicly admitted they know that extraterrestrial life is possible, and possibly here- how would that change anything at all regarding today's power structures?

    First off it would nullify the bible. (isn't that the goal of science?)  It would mean that we aren't unique (in gods eyes).  Or worse off, It would show that humans are middle-management (at-best).  We'll be stuck wearing sears-tailored suits, polyester ties and mingleing at terrible christmas parties with boors you can't stand.  While the upper-management sit smugly, burdeoned with stresses we couldn't begin to contemplate (where is  the next planet we should terra-form? what "miracles" shall we bestow upon the profane?)

[PissedOff24]

Alright then. Fine. I have a feeling, no offense, that you saying that shows they still have their grip very firmly on you. So, CFTraveler, can you at least give me a link to a valid, credible source about the UK government admitting that extraterrestrial life can exist?

[CFTraveler]

 p.o. : I'll have to dig the link up- it was fairly recent.

and volcomestone:

first off it would nullify the bible. (isn't that the goal of science?) 

Why?  Those who cling to religious belief (as opposed to faith) still deny the reality of fossil and dna evidence that shows that creation didn't happen literally the way it's portrayed in scripture.  So how would it deny the bible?  I would say with no qualms that the 'alternative' creation stories (atlantis, lemuria, etc.) are more supported by the bible than current scientific understanding of evolution and/or history.

[CFTraveler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGjeldptkIs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBSo-yB-P74&feature=related

http://www.realufos.net/2008/10/ufo-disclose-going-full-steam-now-uk.html

This is not the original BBC report on 'official' disclosure but here's a few clips about it.  Eventually I'll find the 'official' announcement.

[volcomstone]

Those who cling to religious belief (as opposed to faith)

   Many people study theology for this one argument.  Belief vs. faith. 

would say with no qualms that the 'alternative' creation stories (atlantis, lemuria, etc.) are more supported by the bible than current scientific understanding of evolution and/or history.

   There are many different verbal traditions and creation myths that are heavily ignored. Polynesian and native american traditions.  Central and south americans. The maori and coastal Haida (antigen HLA Bw48 ). The Colonizing christian sects put out considerable effort and energy to all but rape and destroy all other peoples whom they deemed "pagan". 

  ***tangent*** Western world still ignores China. Just WTF have they been doing this whole time? They live on a different time-scale. I still cannot understand why they haven't taken over. But that's a whole other story.

[zareste]

Atlantis and Lumeria are creation stories? Let's not group everything you're unfamiliar with into one category

I think it's great that the US public is ditching the geocentric-life model against the will of the government. It shows independence. People may still whine that their government/media overlords won't talk about the outside universe (as though the opinions of rich liars is more important than facts) but society is at least leaning in the right direction.

I have the same habit of hating new things. Like P.O demonstrated, it's the fear that everything you believe will come crashing down. The presence of off-world life means people have to re-think their understanding of the universe; re-think their history, their evolution, their understanding of physics and biology. Everyone seems to have a belief that's disturbed by outsiders.

But as CFT mentioned, these fears are often exaggerated. Much of our history is still correct, the religious texts still have some truth, evolution is still there, and not every off-world life form is out to kill us. I was searching Youtube for alien videos the other day, and it's nothing but doomsday theories and invasions and conspiracies. No mention of the ordinary outsiders who stop by the planet to chat once in a while. It's always "oh no here come the outsiders to destroy our way of life"