To any competent healer able to banish negative entity
They deleted my post. :?
I will repost it here then:
I have had this neg attached to me for 23 years now and i am aware of it for more than 3 years. In that time i tried getting help from 3 spiritual healers and spent more than a 1000 dollars on them but none of them came even close to banishing the entity.
Therefore i decided not to engage anymore in any small, unprofessional healings and waste any more money coming from my limited funds. No more "try and pay" healings where you pay even if the result is not achieved.
Instead i will offer a reward of 30,000 dollars to anyone who can heal me and banish negative entity.
I got a detailed post going here about the neg.
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4468
As you can see from that post my life is in a stall at the moment, i need a job and money to get rid of the neg myself but my career prospects dont look to good while im under the influence, so its a catch 22, so i have to find another way to get rid of the neg.
I wonder if you know anyone who is capable of person to person healing? What about your friend Romero from Portugal? I think you mentioned he is well versed in demonology and able to do healings? I might be able to fly to Portugal and see him there. (I remember i did email him several years ago but it looked like he was a busy man back then he never replied as far as i remember...)
Alternatively I am planning a journey to Australia in the next few months, maybe we could think of something to see and do there?
Once the healing is complete I intend to pay reward in 3 settlements:
1.
First is on the spot, i will pay 2 - 3 thousand dollars as soon as neg is gone. That’s the money i have on me now.
2.
In some time (few weeks) when i can see that the entity is gone for good i will have additional monetary support from my parents and they will cash out another 3 - 4 thousand dollars for my healing.
Thats 5,000 - 7,000 dollars guaranteed.
3.
The next 20,000+ I can not guarantee yet but it will come at a later stage depending on circumstances: this sum i intend to earn if everything goes according to the plan after the neg is gone. I have skills. I have talents. And i will have no problems earning money when i'm neg free.
I will also pay to anyone who will lead me / direct me to the right person, i.e. someone capable of healing my psyche. If the neg is gone by the work of that man or woman i will also send a fat cash bonus your way.
Please pm me or email me with any offers/suggestions/ideas at kisskissbangbang420@hotmail.com
Wow man, I hope you get that thing out of you. Best of luck.
Oh, I would have jumped in for the chance of $30,000 but it sounds as though Romero from Portugal would do everything that I would do.
You see, Portugal and the Portugeese are under a special Spiritual Dispensation because they are the only country in the World to have turned away from Socialist Free Masonry and BACK to Marian Catholicism. many people mistakenly assume that the Latin Countries of Europe are Catholic, but they are nearly all under the control of the Free Masons-- all of the politicians wear those little Free Mason "666"'s on their lapel. Anyway, in 1917 the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared at Fatima, and from the 75,000 Witnesses who observed, in awe, the Miracle of the Sun, their transpired an almost complete Re-conversion of the Country, not only to Catholicism (not such a good thing, as all the Bishops and Priests are Pedophiliac Perverts) but Marian Catholics (with none of the taint of Paulism and Corruption). The Country has been under a special dispensation ever since. Note that Portugal, of every country in the World has been without Civil Conflict or war since 1917, and what other country can say the same?
So, Romero from Portugal will CERTAINLY be able to exorcise your Demon... your Negativity.
But you should prepare yourself in any case. Buy a "Miraculous Medal" so that you are already in the good graces of Our Lady of Grace. Don't worry, you DO NOT need Faith. The spcial Dispensation of the Miraculous Medal is that you only need to wear it. FAITH is specifically NOT required. Indeed, the first Great Miracle of the Miraculous Medal was that it touched off a very great Miracle for an Atheist who wore it on a bet. Here, take a look at this: http://www.amm.org/medal.htmo
Errr, huh???!! (on many different levels :-o :-D).
OOooOOoooh where to start lets seeee...
OK last first - Romero de Cunha - forget the guy, OK? There have been other threads about him recently and he is not all he claims to be. But he is not, and nor has to to be my knowledge, ever claimed to come from any Christian point of view!
As for the miraculous medal, I say again, HUH?! I do hope that was a joke....or some sort of clever psychology (oops did I blow it?!)
Now, to the meat of the first post:
Your offer of $30K makes me more than uneasy. Oooh I am so temped to delete your post but since there is a tiny tiny fraction of me which thinks a part of you may actually be looking for help (even given that I doubt you have any intention of paying), think I will reply instead (please dont argue it, OK? I guess you could be some tycoon with more money than sense, but otherwise, do please be so kind as to get real!).
Let me just say this first - you will not get a decent exorcist simply by offering $30K, quite quite the opposite. Second - if you really have spent all the $ and had no success, there are two possibilities:
a) They were not really exorcists (given that you had to pay them at all, this is likely).
b) You have made little effort to change yourself for the better. My understanding of the attachment process is that if you are not ready for such a disconnect, ie you have no even attempted to purify yourself in mind body and spirit, even a small - no wait, not even an enormous 5 million man strong army of the worlds most powerful shamans/practitioners/exorcists/etc aint going to be able to do squat, cos even if they remove it, you are still wide open with all the flaws, energetic holes, or "attachment points" that allowed attachment to continue in the first place. So it'd just come back, or something else would, and the only result would be a big hole in your bank balance.
Regular meditation, practicing magick, (eg LBRP), exercising, good healthy food, positive introspection and searching, keeping a clean house and out of the company of bad people, etc etc is where you need to start, not just going to "healer" and expecting them to wave a magickkkal wand and for all your problems to simply poof! and dissapear.
Once you've done all the above, then you might want to tentatively search for a practitioner. Just be careful when you do ok? I've heard the difficult ones are hard to find, and are not always what you expect. I know the most holy man I have even met was in the last place I would have looked, but thats life. Remember the good ones tend to be more modest...
And please dont ever try and offer 30K again!! Hehehe the real ones will run from you and the fakes will grab you by the throat and start sucking..
Sorry to be so blunt but hey, tough love :-). I think you understand.
Quote from: Inguma on October 21, 2006, 12:16:52
Errr, huh???!! (on many different levels :-o :-D).
OOooOOoooh where to start lets seeee...
OK last first - Romero de Cunha - forget the guy, OK? There have been other threads about him recently and he is not all he claims to be. But he is not, and nor has to to be my knowledge, ever claimed to come from any Christian point of view!
As for the miraculous medal, I say again, HUH?! I do hope that was a joke....or some sort of clever psychology (oops did I blow it?!)
Now, to the meat of the first post:
Your offer of $30K makes me more than uneasy. Oooh I am so temped to delete your post but since there is a tiny tiny fraction of me which thinks a part of you may actually be looking for help (even given that I doubt you have any intention of paying), think I will reply instead (please dont argue it, OK? I guess you could be some tycoon with more money than sense, but otherwise, do please be so kind as to get real!).
Let me just say this first - you will not get a decent exorcist simply by offering $30K, quite quite the opposite.
Bob Larson.
Quote from: Inguma on October 21, 2006, 12:16:52
As for the miraculous medal, I say again, HUH?! I do hope that was a joke....or some sort of clever psychology (oops did I blow it?!)
No. Jokes are jokes. Talismans are talismans. The way language works is that there are separate words for separate things and concepts.
Now, human beings are not computers. Human beings are spiritual/psychological Beings.
The appropriate Talisman may be all it takes to render a catalytic transformative Event in their psychological underpinning.
And then I get the $check.
QuoteNo. Jokes are jokes. Talismans are talismans. The way language works is that there are separate words for separate things and concepts
Thanks Holmes, cleared a lot up for me that did :-D
QuoteNow, human beings are not computers. Human beings are spiritual/psychological Beings.
If you observe your mind for long enough, you will notice that subconscious to conscious prompting is nothing more than a learned response from decisions taken over time and external pressures absorbed through internal processes (imagination etc). And given that the majority of human decisions rely on this prompting combined with personal/animal/spiritual desires, as well as a good proportion of other mechanisms (insecurity etc), well it kinda strips the decision making process down to basics. Try it.
IMO the Human Being is a combined creature of flesh and spirit.
QuoteThe appropriate Talisman may be all it takes to render a catalytic transformative Event in their psychological underpinning.
Yeah well, a catalytic transformation triggered by something simple eh? The person who is being changed needs to be right on the cusp of changing for that to work. It could be triggered by anything - a sunset, birds wheeling across the sky, the tear on a childs face. In other words, not necessarily by some Christian trinklet, and if by that, then also quite easily by a thousand other things.
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Let me just say this first - you will not get a decent exorcist simply by offering $30K, quite quite the opposite."
Thats the beauty of this method, I dont pay ANYTHING untill i see fixed coherent reuslt i.e. the entity gone = 30,000
Entity still here after a healing = NO MONEY!!!
"You have made little effort to change yourself for the better."
Come again?
Take a look at this:
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4468
Now i really dont know why i made it on that forum. I only had one tiny reply there. Do you think i should maybe migrate to this board instead?
"...energetic holes..."
Listen, i know how these things work, once the entity is gone i need to stay Neg free for some time, maybe months or two, then these holes heal naturally without negs presence. Thats why i need it exorsised.
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Regular meditation, practicing magick, (eg LBRP), exercising, good healthy food, positive introspection and searching, keeping a clean house
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You really should read my METHAPHYSICAL BLOG, link posted above :) I really need to move it to this site, which im gonna do now :)
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And please dont ever try and offer 30K again!! Hehehe the real ones will run from you and the fakes will grab you by the throat and start sucking.."
I offered 30 grand with a simple hope of attarcting Robert Bruces attention, hes a busy man, and i think he would love a chance to "cash in". :P
First, I have to completely agree with everything Rob said...and said very well indeed.
Second :
QuoteI offered 30 grand with a simple hope of attarcting Robert Bruces attention, hes a busy man, and i think he would love a chance to "cash in".
Sorry -- but Robert stopped participating in this website about a year or so ago.
And just to reiterate previous comments, anyone that offered to help me in a spiritual capacity 'for a price' would have me running the complete opposite direction. So "Buyer beware"
Hi.
I'd say go to a sertified SRT practicioner, pay 40$ and find out in what degree you really want to get rid of that thing.And to what degree you are able to admit to yourself that having him around has it's plusses. The answer might surprise you. If there is a tiny reason why you benefit from that relation (like having a more "interesting" life, being "different"than others,"more interesting"..or just lonely) then no matter what you will do (but certainly not how much money you will pay) the neg will come back. Please remember that in some degree you must have agreed for the neg to be with you, (again,conciously or not). The cosmic law says that nothing can be done to you without your will (again, and again concious or not). I think it would also be interesting for you to check to what degree you have a need of suffering (always surprising) and what are the promisses and rituals that you have signed under throughout all your incarnations on earth, and further on.
I sympathize with you, but also I believe that if you really,really want something, you can acomplish it.
I'm saying this because for years I've had negs making hell out of my life. It lasted years simply because they never heard a real, honest, clear "NO!".hey ho.
the best of luck!
http://www.spiritualresponse.com/index.html
(only work with certified practicioners...this job is a huge responsibility)
Quote from: Ewok on October 23, 2006, 06:42:21
I offered 30 grand with a simple hope of attarcting Robert Bruces attention, hes a busy man, and i think he would love a chance to "cash in". :P
I'm sure he would love a chance to cash in :evil:
auch! I'd better bite my tongue...
It's not the money that counts honey...it's the intention 8-)
Thank you for your help people.
So far i have attempted to contact 3 people:
Nita from astralhealer.com
Rober Bruce
And his friend Romero
I think its time i take it out in the open and get in touch with a wider range of healers.
There was a great organisation here in th UK, based in london and they had a huge ammount of healers at their hands. Anyone knows their website?
Alternatively is there such a website in the USA?
You might want to add Spectral Dragon from AD... he claims to be a depossesser..whatever the hell that is. :-o
Quote from: Ewok on October 27, 2006, 11:36:00
I think its time i take it out in the open and get in touch with a wider range of healers.
There was a great organisation here in th UK, based in london and they had a huge ammount of healers at their hands. Anyone knows their website?
Alternatively is there such a website in the USA?
did I mention that you might be kind of enjoying the whole whole attention??Yeah...call all those healers, organizations...I don't really think you want to let go of it. just my 2 cents. Good luck :wink:
Quote from: Ewok on October 20, 2006, 13:57:57
To any competent healer able to banish negative entity:
http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?t=4847
Actually, RB sent you a pm or email to let you know that he doesn't charge for readings, and to set it up, please contact PHG for when he's going to be in your neck of the woods. The original message was moved to send to Robert since it was directed at him, not at the whole board.
Do it yourself. After all its just a neg. Heck they cannot even stand to be around prayer and positive thoughts of god. White light makes them crazy too. Ummm but the best thing you can do is find what its grasping too. Speak to this little beasty in your dream and find out why its here. Than send that bad boy away. They really are quite whimpy as long as whatever you are doing wrong you take care of. So anything you feel guilty about? thats probably it. When did it first show up? Any habits you need to change? sex? smoking? materialism? Just asking im not saying its one of these but its usually a very related problem that the neg grasps on to your energy with. Find out why its there and get rid of it you can do this.
:lol:
Quote from: CFTraveler on November 01, 2006, 17:11:47
Actually, RB sent you a pm or email to let you know that he doesn't charge for readings, and to set it up, please contact PHG for when he's going to be in your neck of the woods. The original message was moved to send to Robert since it was directed at him, not at the whole board.
What is PHG?
As for do it yourself i donno, its tricky, the wounds are deep, the neg is evil and i doubt it wants to leave, maybe maybe...
Thanks to mods for letting me keep this post, i will put a link to it on my website.
Painterhypnogirl. She is a moderator at Astral Dynamics. Perhaps you should take this problem over there? They cater to people's fantasies, in fact they feed them. For the most part you will not find anyone here that believes negs are a problem...or even real. Enoch and CF are both from AD, CF being a mod as well. I really think you should take it there.
Just in case anyone is interested, Robert Bruce does not take money for healings or depossession. While there are many who don't believe in negative entities, which I can understand, we all have our own little demons we are fighting with. (i.e. - anger, lying, drinking, and sometimes the hardest one of all to conquer - rudeness). So, even if you (that being the universal "you", not aimed at anyone in particular) don't believe in negs, at least try to recognize when someone is in pain. The pain shows up in many ways, and may not fall in line with your particular beliefs. A plea for help is a plea for help, whether "you" give credence to it or not. And, try to understand just how little making fun of them is helping. If you were in pain, would you appreciate that kind of response?
The high moral tone of telling them what to do and what's really wrong with them doesn't quite do the trick. I should know, I've tried it myself. All it does is heap more hurt on them, isolates them, and makes them feel even worse. Is this how Oneness reacts to someone else in pain? Is this how "you" want people to react when you're in pain? I don't think any of us really wants that.
If Robert has taught me anything, it's that loving those we don't completely agree with is the highest calling we can attain. You may not agree with Robert or Ewok's beliefs, but the least you can do is afford them the respect that you would ask for yourself. Robert is a healer, that's what he does. He changes people's lives for the better. And, no, I haven't drunk the Koolaid. I've just witnessed in person what a loving, generous, and kind man he is.
Now, back to your regularly programmed station.... :wink:
Hi Nay! *waves* Loves ya!
OK Patty.. No fair. I've been banned from your site because of my views and am not allowed to express them there. Do you find it fair that you come over here and start giving your views? Of course I would never ban you because you haven't broken any forum rules. It's a shame that all sites don't hold true to that form.
I'm sorry, but I don't trust Robert as far as I can throw is slightly over weight body. (how's that for rude? :wink:) Robert has put stars in your eyes because of him giving you this feeling of being superior due to your "work" with him. It's the oldest trick in the book. Said "guru" gives those around them the feeling of being in some elite group thus causing them to believe they have all the answers. What the heck is a depossessor? I believe Robert created this title because it gave him even more "power" over the evil of the world.. the evil of the world that HE is creating. Where the heck would he be if he told people that they create their own demons? Bored sitting around his house I say...
QuoteThe high moral tone of telling them what to do and what's really wrong with them doesn't quite do the trick.
Isn't that exactly what you are doing here? Why would you even bother unless you felt defensive? Anyone can go over to AD and read Nik's posts and form their own opinion of him. MY opinion of him is he needs to see a doctor and you guys are doing no good by telling every thing from cold to anorexia is caused by a neg... :roll: When do you tell people to stop blaming outside influences and start reaching within?
This world has become so full of people that don't mind reaching their goals by standing on others. I don't like it and yes I express my opinion on that every chance I get. I'm not ashamed, embarrassed, lying, anger or drunk..LOL!
You say people gave a plea for help... I agree, to an extent. I think people might be confused. You can blame us or me..which ever, I'll take that heat, I'm quite used to it when it comes to people from AD. I still can't understand why said possessed and neg attack victims continue to get angry when someone believes different than them. Why the hostility? Please don't tell me a neg is using me or them to cause this conversation blow out..lol. That stuff doesn't fly here.. it flies on your site.
When are you going to see that you might just be causing these people harm by catering and feeding their inner fears and sometimes true mental illnesses? What is so wrong telling someone that they hold the power not some outside influence? Actually don't answer that.. we've been down that road..alot. That is why I told him to go over to your site. I don't think many people here will cater to his "demons" and thus causing us or me..lol. to seem uncaring, unfeeling, or ignorant. I think perhaps that is why some theads about neg influences do not get comments at all, because there is nothing nice or constructive to say. IMO.
I see that some people have asked for a "fluffy bunny" section to be able to post in without being verbally attacked by the heavy neg victims on the site. Why can't the queen of fluffy bunnies be unbanned and welcomed with open arms? I was the inspiration for that phrase after all... :-D I think they fear what I have to say (maybe it's the neg that gets ticked, kinda like holy water..LOL) and then that fear turns into vicious verbal personal attacks. but like I told you, I wouldn't post there ever again if ya paid me some of those royalties Robert gets from those $1200.00 seminars of his. Robert and company give the demons and then take them away for a price. It is nauseating to me. I know you said he doesn't get paid for THAt.. but come on.. he gets paid and the fear ties it all up quite nicely. IMO.
You know I love ya too girl. :-) We've had some fun conversations and laughs.. but I just can't agree on this neg business... it just feels so wrong to me.
Perhaps I need a new title.. Judge Judy of the astral planes.. :lol: :lol: I just don't coddle and I'm sorry if that causes some to think I'm an ogre. Believe it or not, I have their best interest in mind. And come on! You know I'm nice. :wink: And I know that you always get the last word.. I just ask that you be kind. :-D
Jeez, Nay, where do I start? First off, I just hosted a workshop for Robert and the cost per person is $200. I don't know where you got the idea that he charges so much. He even allows the person hosting the workshop to set the price, and is insistent that people with money problems receive a "scholarship" to attend...either at a discounted rate or free. One thing I can say for sure, Robert is not in it for the money.
Secondly, my post wasn't directed at you. It was a general post trying to create a little understanding. I'm really sorry if it came off that it was directed at you. That wasn't my intention. Even with our disagreements, I love you to death. I didn't ban you, and fought hard for you. And, you know you weren't banned for your beliefs. The reason I posted was because Ewok contacted me with a link here. After reading the entire thread, I thought it was a little unfair to Robert and to Ewok.
Ok, about my "stars". I don't feel superior to anyone. On the contrary, I feel humbled that I've hurt people in the past because of my beliefs and the way I expressed it. Robert has not pumped any sunshine up my arse, and I've personally never met a spiritual teacher more kind, caring, sincere, and dedicated to helping people. He actually
has and does tell people that they can create their own demons through fear and thought forms. Because he also believes there are negative entities hardly makes him a bad person. His healings are free. That should speak for itself. He's a lot more reasonable person than you're giving him credit for. I've seen him several times tell someone who was convinced they had a neg that that wasn't what was going on. He teaches people to clean up their life, and is a big proponent of the law of attraction. But, he also believes there are forces that can affect people negatively that they may not have attracted into their life. Nay, it's a belief, not a reason to become greedy. He insists that people who host a workshop take a percentage for their trouble and work. I didn't want to, and practically had to shove the money in his pocket. I think you've built an image of Robert in your head that doesn't resemble the real man.
Ok, enough about Robert. He always tells me not to defend him, that he can take care of himself. But, since I know him and how he operates, I wanted to set the record straight.
QuoteI still can't understand why said possessed and neg attack victims continue to get angry when someone believes different than them. Why the hostility? Please don't tell me a neg is using me.
You know me pretty well to know that I would not say a neg is using you. I think it's offensive when people say that to someone. I don't pretend to know what motivates someone else. I can barely keep up with myself. :-D About the hostility...we all get upset and defensive when we interpret something someone says as a personal attack. Can't say what anyone else's motivation is, but I'm still working on fixing that in myself...and usually failing miserably. And, I don't take your post as an attack on me, 'cause I know how much you love me, you little sh.t. :evil:
Hey, I didn't know you'd gone back to moderating! And, I see you are still speaking your mind. :-D :-D :-D I miss you terribly, and still think you're one of the funniest people I've ever known, you dumb f..k. :lol: :-P
QuoteGeez, Nay, where do I start? First off, I just hosted a workshop for Robert and the cost per person is $200. I don't know where you got the idea that he charges so much. He even allows the person hosting the workshop to set the price, and is insistent that people with money problems receive a "scholarship" to attend...either at a discounted rate or free. One thing I can say for sure, Robert is not in it for the money.
I got that idea because when he was first starting out with these workshops that is how much they cost. What does this $200.00 include? I'm sorry I don't believe that he isn't but that is ok, no sense in us beating a dead horse.
QuoteSecondly, my post wasn't directed at you. It was a general post trying to create a little understanding. I'm really sorry if it came off that it was directed at you. That wasn't my intention. Even with our disagreements, I love you to death. I didn't ban you, and fought hard for you. And, you know you weren't banned for your beliefs. The reason I posted was because Ewok contacted me with a link here. After reading the entire thread, I thought it was a little unfair to Robert and to Ewok.
Ok...now come on, I got banned because I kept asking question and the chronic neg victims got upset at my questions. You ended up creating a whole forum just for these people to talk about really unbelieveable stories without being questioned..was I banned because I commented in that thread? I think that was before you had all those other sub-forums. I guess I was breaking the law. (http://clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-035.gif) Catering..... I was sure it was Nik that contacted you..LOL. so much for me starting my own 1-800 psychic hotline. :lol:
QuoteOk, about my "stars". I don't feel superior to anyone. On the contrary, I feel humbled that I've hurt people in the past because of my beliefs and the way I expressed it. Robert has not pumped any sunshine up my arse, and I've personally never met a spiritual teacher more kind, caring, sincere, and dedicated to helping people. He actually has and does tell people that they can create their own demons through fear and thought forms. Because he also believes there are negative entities hardly makes him a bad person. His healings are free. That should speak for itself. He's a lot more reasonable person than you're giving him credit for. I've seen him several times tell someone who was convinced they had a neg that that wasn't what was going on. He teaches people to clean up their life, and is a big proponent of the law of attraction. But, he also believes there are forces that can affect people negatively that they may not have attracted into their life. Nay, it's a belief, not a reason to become greedy. He insists that people who host a workshop take a percentage for their trouble and work. I didn't want to, and practically had to shove the money in his pocket. I think you've built an image of Robert in your head that doesn't resemble the real man.
I'll concede that he hasn't offered up to bring me to one of his workshops to show me what a wonderful man he is.. so, ok.. he is. :) Hmmmmm.... I could use some christmas money....perhaps I'll see about doing a workshop....nah, never mind. I'm glad to hear about the laws of attraction. Maybe I'm getting the wrong idea by what I see on his site. I see that he doesn't really bother much with it, just like he wasn't too prominent here after a good base was set and Adrian was here to handle it all.
QuoteOk, enough about Robert. He always tells me not to defend him, that he can take care of himself. But, since I know him and how he operates, I wanted to set the record straight.
I just wanted to say that we are both setting the record straight...as we both
think we know it.
Quote from: talanay
I still can't understand why said possessed and neg attack victims continue to get angry when someone believes different than them. Why the hostility? Please don't tell me a neg is using me.
QuoteYou know me pretty well to know that I would not say a neg is using you. I think it's offensive when people say that to someone. I don't pretend to know what motivates someone else. I can barely keep up with myself. grin About the hostility...we all get upset and defensive when we interpret something someone says as a personal attack. Can't say what anyone else's motivation is, but I'm still working on fixing that in myself...and usually failing miserably. And, I don't take your post as an attack on me, 'cause I know how much you love me, you little sh.t. :evil:
LOL. I don't even know what to say, I can't get past the little sh*t comment... enough with the sweet talk. :-D It's one thing not agree with someone, another thing to personally verbally attack them. You know what I mean...big sh*t. :-D
QuoteHey, I didn't know you'd gone back to moderating! And, I see you are still speaking your mind. grin grin grin I miss you terribly, and still think you're one of the funniest people I've ever known, you dumb f..k. cheesy tongue
Will mircles ever cease? hehehe.. yeah, I'm glad I took my break, I really needed it. You have got to stop using my pet names on the forums, we don't allow that kind of talk...plus your flattery won't work this time... Phhhhffffttt.. (http://clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-042.gif)
Quotewe don't allow that kind of talk
So, ban me! :-P Then we can go back to just talking in pm's, and spare these poor people the witty banter. This is almost scandalous!!! Two women from different camps secretly friends?? Well, hush my mouth! *southern women talk* And, lest you forget, I was crowned Queen of the Fluffy Bunnies after you left. I stole your title! :-D So, let us agree to disagree about Robert. I'm tired of arguing anyway. *goes away to polish up bunny crown*
I love your arguments nay :-D they always make me laugh
Gawd, Ganamoha, don't encourage her!!! :-o Besides, I was pretty funny, too. :evil:
*tackles phg from behind and steals the crown* :lol: Yeah, we're both gonna be strung up for being spies or something. I'm all for agreeing to disagree. :-D *gives the crown back* Made me feel all prissy anyways.. you are the girly-girl after all. (http://clicksmilies.com/s0105/spezial/Fool/leb.gif) I'm good with being the (http://clicksmilies.com/s0105/spezial/Fool/kar.gif) LOL!
Hey Gan! wow, I totally appreciate that! :-D
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Do it yourself. After all its just a neg. Heck they cannot even stand to be around prayer and positive thoughts of god.
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This one can... dudes and dudetes you should see my website, there i was say how i was able to see into astral and i saw negs HAND in place : that is instead of my astral hands i saw negs hands: demonic and gross... then i atempted to write Jesus on my hand with a pen and the bloody thing was diving away all the time, finally when i made a go at it, the hand started withering and drying and dying infront of my eyes, clearly the neg was in some pain....
BUT, it is NOT enough to remove that thing, aparently. Its got a hold of my like its holding for its life...
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Speak to this little beasty in your dream and find out why its here.
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I really want to do that, but im still learning to become lucid, couple of times that i did just that i remember i got no reply from the neg, instead my body started sinking deep into coma / paraleeses and my intuition told me it was time to wake the hell up...
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Just in case anyone is interested, Robert Bruce does not take money for healings or depossession. While there are many who don't believe in negative entities, which I can understand, we all have our own little demons we are fighting with. (i.e. - anger, lying, drinking, and sometimes the hardest one of all to conquer - rudeness). So, even if you (that being the universal "you", not aimed at anyone in particular) don't believe in negs, at least try to recognize when someone is in pain. The pain shows up in many ways, and may not fall in line with your particular beliefs. A plea for help is a plea for help, whether "you" give credence to it or not. And, try to understand just how little making fun of them is helping. If you were in pain, would you appreciate that kind of response?
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Waw thats awesome stuff!
And ehhhhmmmmm, painterhypnogirl have you asked Robert yet about all this, can he help?
Years ago i used to email him and we seeme to get on well, where is he now, he hasnt been answering many posts in his "contact" forum either :|
"Where the heck would he be if he told people that they create their own demons?"
And what the heck do you mean we "created" them?
Trust me there is devilry out there, just because YOU havent come across it, you should be thankful...
You really should read my reply to the same statment from another forum, where a guy tried to tell me it was all my own problems :
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Lets imagine for a minute baby Konnrade, when he was around 2 years old, safely napping in his bed. Crispy sheet, teddy bears, night lights. Mammy says goodnight. Then around 2 am baby Konnrade dreams about visiting a cookie factory with his daddy... only half way thro the dream something else starts to happen, at first its just a cold graveyard atmosphere that floods his room ( and only can be sensed by a sensetive adult if he was there to witness it ). Then baby Konnrade starts feeling cold shivvers and before he knows something cold stabs him in his feet, never mind he is still dreaming of chasing that double chokolate cookie in his dream... but the cold pricking continues and grows in intensity, before he knows it became really painfull and baby Konnrade is about to start crying .... only he cant... whatever it was that came thro his energy points in feet, has now worked thro his autonomous nerve system and paralaised poor baby Konnrade! He is now dissasociated from his body and can not feel or move it. He is then dropped into a dark foul smelling void, he starts sensing that something really foul and dark is building up around him. He is powerless to do anything about it and in terror he exposes his all natural defences and lays them down exposing his psyche. What happens next, his psyche gets raped with virtual reality / drug induced full blown hallucination like quality in ways that would make cases of child molestation and domestic violence on earth look like walk in the park.
Shortly after he is released from paralyses, his whole body is as tense as vitnams war vets during psychich release sessions, hes whole body is covered in sweat, he throws into wild uncontrollable crying and even when his mother finds him running into his room he is anable to speak and breath properly and move for the next few hours and needs to be sat with comforting.
The same treatement continues from age 1 - 4.
And then stops. Whatever was doing it has finished breaking down energy body defences and now successfully attached itself to the persons psyche.
Its all influence stop. It waits until baby Knnordae gorws into adult while integrating and changing things such as his personality and sexuality. Althought no more night terrors are felt, there is no need for them, Konnrades problems have only just begun..."
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Ok i read (most) of the fun....But i will say im not from any forum that was mentioned. I have my own beliefs and my own knowledge. In part it may come from people like bruce and many others. But in the end its done by me.
The belief of outside forces is very real. If you spent any time astrally you know theres a balance in all things. And if you believe in god you believe in demons. So a neg is just a very "whimpy" demon. Or even a human spirit that bothers the heck out of someone that has not learned to protect themself. How you ever become a moderator in a forum that is steaped in the occult and not know for sure there are demons i have no idea. I must ask have you ever spent time it the underworld? If not you are only seeing half the picture and i forgive any ignorance.
Do you think this world became the lost, fallen place it is without the influence of the spirit takeing place? Anyways im not trying to argue here just pointing out things ive seen without any DOUBT. Outside influence not being an issue for anyone that projects is just lying to ones self. If you project around family and friends with no form of protection i pray for them and you.
Enoch wrote:
Quoteif you believe in god you believe in demons
. Not necessarily. Only if you believe in a limited and dualistic god then demons are necessary for balance. But if you believe in an all-encompassing God then demons, whether internal or external, become part of the all. I'm not participating in the debate about the objectivity (or lack of) of demons, just in the mistaken assumption that belief in god necessitates the belief in negative entities as polar opposites to it.
Yes but have you not encountered them? The evil of man in this world is that of our on devices? Partly yes it is. But what was the spark? what continues to decieve and show man the false paths? Even if it is just part of our own makeing is it not possible to manifest these? I do see your view well but does god have to be limited than to be the spark of life or everything as we know it? It was he who created satan if you believe but satan made his own choices after existing.
Quote from: Enoch on December 19, 2006, 22:22:05
Yes but have you not encountered them?
Indeed I have.
QuoteThe evil of man in this world is that of our on devices? Partly yes it is. But what was the spark? what continues to decieve and show man the false paths?
The spark is the belief that everything that is material is the only reality. It is this belief that makes us do things that are considered evil. Fear of death, fear of not having enough, fear of losing. It is this fear that is behind every evil deed in this world.
QuoteEven if it is just part of our own makeing is it not possible to manifest these? I do see your view well but does god have to be limited than to be the spark of life or everything as we know it? It was he who created satan if you believe but satan made his own choices after existing.
Absolutely. I wasn't saying that evil beings (material or astral) don't exist, I was trying to stay out of that part of the discussion. I was saying that using the argument of belief in God as an argument for the existence of evil is wrong, since that would make the existence of God dependent on it's supposed antithesis, which I completely disagree with.
And satan, in it's modern incarnation made his choices built on error- so from the point of view of God they don't even exist.