a question you might not like

[The AlphaOmega]

Actually I've got nothing more to say other then I agree.  People talking about the matrix and or God does or doesn't exist.  It can get mundane.

[jilola]

That's the nature of people. Sometimes they have great things to say sometimes it's all trite BS.
What's important is what you're learning on your path. All comments and tales of others are just anecdotal, you're work should be what you need to the focus on. When something of importance shines through in your consciousness post it if it's somethig you feel you should share.
The forums have changed, that is true. They will change again for certain.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

[Euphoric Sunrise]

What you have to remember is there are us people new to the metaphysical who haven't seen these topics over and over again like people who have been here for ages have. It's new to us like, as you say, it once was to you.
If you keep reading the same stuff over and over again of course it's going to get a tad boring and seem useless. People are still learning though, and as long as people keep getting interested in metaphysics the same basic questions will be asked again and again.
I know what you mean, i'm starting to see the same thing, but it's just something that happens and you have to forget about the over-done subjects and focus on the jems like the ones you said you come here for.

[coral1]

Frankly, I miss Frank.I think I learned as much from him as from R.B. and Monroe.I read the forum almost everyday.Sometimes it`s very informative and other times it`s like a bad soap opera;ya just gotta tune in to see what happens next.I don`t miss the Dragonballers and maybe the Pleadians have all finally beamed up to the mothership.

Happy Trails

[Blaze]

This is still the best AP discussion forum that I know of. The only two other AP boards I know of are..

http://www.astralsociety.com/Forums/index.php

http://www.astralforum.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=e78783d2f13efbf1cebd021616a228d7
(the popups on this board are unbearable)

Are there any other AP forums?

I'd like to have a listing of all such boards so I can always find something new to read. I have learned a lot on these boards.

David

[Aries]

I am new to the forums and it is pretty hard to find some of the things I am looking for. So I will ask, and Im sure its been asked befor but I still need to know. Just because you have been here long enough to see most of the questions already doesnt mean that all the new people signing up everyday will see those old post as well.
-Aries

[kakkarot]

isn't the purpose of the Astral Chat to house topics which don't have to have "meat" to them, for topics which don't have to do with metaphysics, and for topics which can be fun and funny rather than having to be about some serious issue or debate?

i like the astral chat to be not-so-serious as the other forums because it provides a place for people to come to and remember that life isn't JUST about the serious issues and ALWAYS growing spiritually, that life is sometimes just about socializing and having spontaneous/uncommited/unadulterated fun [)].

so smile and be happy [] cause life isn't fun without any fun [].

~kakkarot

(or did you mean ALL the forums? ie, you are saying this about the psychic self-defense forums, the spirituality forums, the religious forums, etc as well? cause after i read your initial post the first time i was thinking you JUST meant the astral chat forum, but reading your post through a second time makes me wonder if you meant just this one or all of them)

[goku22]

Cool, I got some replies! Thanks everybody. I really like what you said jilola. And Blaze, I agree, this is the best of what's out there. Many others don't even have those rare gems. I used to be on the astral society forum, but it declined pretty fast a year or two ago, I don't know if it's any good now. I guess these forums are really good for beginners to get a thorough grounding on metaphysical subjects, then the only thing left is to experience what everybody is talking about. Kakkarot, I agree, the only reason I posted this thread on the astral chat is that it didn't fit anywhere else. And I think a chat forum is necesary, being serious all the time sucks butt. I'd just like to find more meaningful topics elsewhere in the forum. By the way, I'm enjoying this conversation because addressing the issue seems to alleviate it a bit. Muchos gracias (Ahh, high school spanish) Ben

[kakkarot]

quote:Originally posted by goku22

I'd just like to find more meaningful topics elsewhere in the forum.

ah, well i definatly agree with that, but unfortunately, as jilola alluded to, people have a tendancy to hype trivial problems/issues and think they are more important than they really are [V].

fortunately though, really good posts ARE still made, it's just that there are a more not-so-great posts being made which tend to hide the better ones [|)].

~kakkarot

[Huwie]

I'll tell you what I think is weird about this board - unless I've just missed it all.  If this board is where a lot of projectors hang around, where are all the stories?

I realise a lot must have been posted in the past, but I would imagine if it were me I would be posting all the damn time about my experiences!

[Euphoric Sunrise]

I agree with you, Huwie, that it would be really cool and motivating to read some cool stories from people who have had some great experiences, but i think it has to do with the fact that people don't think of writing out heaps and heaps of stuff all the time is much fun, and i would agree with them. If they keep a journal they could paste stuff onto the boards, but then that might be too private in some cases.

If you haven't already, you should search for some posts Ginny made a while ago. Her retrieval stories were always inspiring! I wonder where she went.

[clandestino]

yep, Ginny's posts are great accounts, and I think sweet_celestial_sounds (can't remember if that was his / her user name?) posted in great detail too....

The forums have changed, but at the end of the day, they are still full of information, insights & accounts that you simply will not be able to find anywhere else.

Also - Its all very well looking for inspiration within forums, but the best place to find it is by experience....which means practice & dedication.

Mark

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by Huwie

I'll tell you what I think is weird about this board - unless I've just missed it all.  If this board is where a lot of projectors hang around, where are all the stories?

I realise a lot must have been posted in the past, but I would imagine if it were me I would be posting all the damn time about my experiences!

Huwie....I for one don't post ALL my experiences, simply because some would be boring to the general public.  

I usually only post my OBE experiences if I had an exceptionally good one, or if I learned something new which needs to be shared.

[Nay]

I am the same way as Jeff, they would bore others..hehehehe, plus some of them are just too plain short!..grrrrr..

Nay.[]

[Huwie]

I see.  I suppose I'll better understand when I'm projecting myself.  When I'm projecting, not if. []

[beavis]

I agree most threads dont have much "real meat". Why dont you post some? I try to.

I've been ignoring a lot more newbie threads than I did when I only had 500 posts.

[goku22]

What does this look like? This an attempt at what you say, intelligent conversation is the "meat". Also, my bent is more towards adding my own thoughts to existing conversations, I have no reason for it, it's just what I like.[]  Ben

[beavis]

This thead is almost vegetarian. It has no meat. It is complaining that there is no meat (crazy vegetarian?).

[goku22]

I agree that to an outside observer this may be true, but for me it has alot of substance, because it's something I'm interested in at the moment. And as I'm sure you'll say as soon as you read this, yes some of the threads that I think suck may be very interesting to the people involved in them, and my opinion of what is and isn't interesting isn't any better than their's. It's all subjective and you can't argue with what someone feels about something, so I think alot of the threads suck, and I like this one, though I may like this one more just because I started it. I'm not above a little a selfish delight. And maybe some of this thread is a little bland, no big deal, I'm satisifed with some of the better thoughts expressed, such as jilola's. I have to laugh at your last post because I myself am a vegetarian, and a crazy one at that, so it's all working out nicely[^] Ben

[beavis]

I meant that it didnt contain or speculate on any new astral-related information. Thats why it has no meat.

[Ybom]

This thread has enough meat if you look at it properly. Being satisfied is one thing, and being bored is another. goku, I think it's important to note that if you want more than this forum has to offer at the time, you either need to create it yourself or go out and look at other forums, or even PM someone who has had an interesting experience and see if they've had more since then. On the other hand, beavis is having trouble with something he likes and seems to be using impulse emotion to  create a blank, hurtful post. It's not about meat in the thread, it's about meat in the posts to create a hearty thread, in which this thread actually does have a few gems:

Euphoric Sunrise - "...it would be really cool and motivating to read some cool stories...", "If they keep a journal they could paste stuff onto the boards...", and "...you should search for some posts Ginny made..."

goku22 - "...it's alot harder to find the diamonds in the rough."

However, this is an Astral Chat forum and not a speculation one. Meat in this forum would be anything interesting really. The problem is you both are expecting much of the same thing and not getting it, which means maybe you both need to readdress why you posted what you did. By no means am I complaining about what's going on here, since it is reading material nontheless and I'm not here to take those words away, I just think that some of the problems you two have can be solved with a little insight and possibly searching elsewhere, or maybe writing a short story or poem if you can. Nothing is going to be exciting all the time, until you show it how to be fun again. Now I go see my girlfriend and tell her that!

[goku22]

Thanks Ybom, that's all very good advice. Some of it is stuff I've thought of since I wrote it and as I wrote it. While what I said in my original posts was all genuine thoughts of mine, a big reason for posting it instead of just going off and looking elsewhere was to create an interesting conversation. I feel a bit of loyalty to this webpage because I've been involved in it for years, and even during the times where I was kind of bored with it, I did always find something of interest. I guess I just wanted to up the level of conversation within the whole forum by getting people to think a bit more about what they write. You know what's funny, you said something about PMing someone to find out more of someone's interesting experience, which is something I hadn't thought of, and just yesterday Lighthouse sent me a PM about some of her works, and I had a very interesting couple of hours going through her stuff. So I guess you're reiterating what the universe was trying to tell me. I admit that I wasn't putting as much effort into the search and production of interesting materials, I was sort of relishing my unenjoyment in a way. But now I see that's just silly, so I have to put in what I expect back. Ben

[Mustardseed]

Some of mine are not for the public[:I]

[cube]

Does that make you proud, Mustardseed?

[atalanta]

Welcome to knowledge.[]

The getting of knowledge is scary but oh so exciting.  The knowledge that is got is oh so mundane but freeing.

Why do you think God created this universe, imagine how bored S/He was![)]

The only thing I can suggest is maybe if its boring for you because other people are not writing about their experiences, then maybe write about your own.