A rise to action

[GothicDragonX]

This is what most of you have been waiting for,i'm going to tell you the information you want to know.Ever since i was young i have always had an urge to protect people,(i know it sounds like basic super hero b.s.,but its the truth)Everyone I tried has come easy to me,i have an ability where i can adapt to any situation fast,you can ask my friends and family if you do not believe.Any ways in 1998-200- i became very interested in ancient prophets and prophecies and the strange occurences in this world.I was also a big fan of dbz and many other anime.In the summer of 2000,me and 3 of my friends started a very long game of d&d(dungeons & dragons)bUt we added a dbz twist to it,we built characters based on things like energy adn techniques.The game evolved in many ways,we would to hard physical adn mental training to give our characters a power level increase.After a while i brought up the subject of how it would be if it were real,i had known of ki and jing for a long time.I just never really sat down and thought about it so i started to train as it were real,then many strange occurences of our own begin to happen,there were an increased number of deaths in the family,my cousin's that were in it began to see many wierd things,then i sat down and thought and i noticed the irony of how life is,this i guess you could say was the true beginning of knowing the path i have chosen.In the last 6 months i really got serious in ki training,and i have increased so much.Then as i trained i began to have strange dreams and sometimes i would pass out and see many things,i kept away from my parents my secret life of training,then i studied astral projection adn lucid dreams,i had many occurences with those adn seeing a war between humans and demons,i also studied the culture of the navajo indians,they tell of story of a generation of humans who were advanced at there time,took the earth for granite and they were condemned by by the earth,there own tools came to life as if possessed and began to kill them,then it has a warning of of another occurence like this,except it had a date of when it would happen,it stated that if by,the winter solstice of 2012 that if the current generation did not give back and thank the planet that it would be cleansed again.Also if you study the mayan calender and the heiroglyphics in some ancient egyptian texts they tell of the end of the world sometime between 2012 adn 2014.ALso Nostradamus spoke of the same years,and if you have ever seen bible prophecies on tlc you would have heard that the bible can be used as a book to tell the future,it would have to be in the context of metaphors however,translated it stated that something would big would happen in 2012,sometime in between 2016 and 2024 and again in 2050,they also discovered that the bible only wnet as far as 2053.These are some of my sources of info the others come from what i have read by other teens adn what they sense i also have my owen notions.i know is you were to train fo the next 8 years yould be a waist of time if nothing happened,but just imagine if it did happen,i'm  not saying to drop everything for the next 8 years and go live in a cave and train,just live out a normal life and train,but don't stop training all together.You can choose what you want to do,it your choice to train or not.if you are ineterested in preparing i suggest you contact me,i will answer any question you wish to ask,the current number of members is 12,we need more.If i had my original group we would already be up to about thirty,but people change,sometimes for the worst.I don't appreciate ridicule or sarcasm,if you don't believe in this and don't care for it,don't contact or leave a post,we have no time for jokes,this war may happen it may not,it could happen a long time from now but i don't think it would hurt to be prepared,it could be like terminator,sarah connor stayed alive long enough to htink she stopped judgement day,but in the end she only postponed it,lets prepare to meet it head on,BECAUSE I WILL NOT FALL AGAIN,I WILL NOT STAND BY AS AND LET THE SHADOW OF DEATH CREEP UP ON US SO EASILY,I'M NOT GOING DOWN WITH OUT A FIGHT,NOW'S WHO'S WITH ME IF YOU ARE,CONTACT ME ASAP.ALSO I FOUNDED THIS TEAM OR FORCE FOUR YEARS AGO BUT ONLY AS A GAME NOW ITS A REALITY,A WEBSITE WILL BE MADE TO TELL MORE ABOUT IT SOON.JUST KEEP IT IN MIND.

[Clow]

Sad thing is that you will get sarcasm. I've been through this twice. You have to cut through it and look for the believers. The rest are lost.

I want to state publicly that I am part of Gothic's team.

Also I want to add that the prophecies are quite a bit off. This war will happen sooner than the prophecies state. So don't put training off.

[mustard]

Abdi here, to tell you the truth I see others as helpless human beings, I feel like I know their problems and how to solve them better than they do, like
a psychiatrist. I can see consequences of my friends actions
or issues that they would have just by observing their personalities.
I feel like am living outside the box and I can see through people,  for what they really are. Like an animal expert, I can study, predict their actons an reactions, and know how to help them better than others. Anyways, if anything is going to happend in 2012 ,natural
disaster(floods), world war 3(rise of a dictator or antichrist), big,
big holes open in the ozone layer, outburst of a new deadly diseae, plague, epidemic, or virus,(AIDS,mad cow) that cannot be stopped,it
will have an enormous effect on us because we deserve it,(almost all of us except few on this planet)seeing grown adults acting inhumane
on Jerry Springer, Maury, Cops, you name it, they have failed to
live in peace and prosperity because of sins they commit every day. I came from Europe to USA in fourth grade, same story there. When my grandma(very religious) saw Jerry Springer for the first time she couldn't believe what she was seeing. The point is, it's only going to get worse untill they destroy themselves for money from alcohol,drugs,
selling their bodies, but I don't blame them, they grew up in a world
where other generations have made it a worse place. Remeber seeing clips from some old
tv shows from the 50's 60's or 70's the people in them looked so civilized.

[volcomstone]

the mayans where just any other civilization on the planet, why would they be any different from the egyptians, the sumerians, or the ancient chinese? What about the greek?

the mayans where flawed. they became extinct, they got conquered, they couldn't even survive to 2012.

what about those who do not believe in demons? will they be harmed?

you people have a great imagination, and no dougt anime movies are cool,  but they are cartoons, great exagerations on reality

BUT FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THATS SANE AND RATIONAL< STOP WITH THE 2012 BULL it is annoying and no one cares, you guys should private email the little propaganda your feeding yourselves and stop posting stupid topics that have no actual info in them

if you where able to say, create a bibliography, or at least ONE SINGLE INTERNET LINK TO A REPUTED MAYAN RESEARCHER, or anything,

you might have someothers believing you

[James S]

Ok, GothicDragonX,

1st point -
Please, please, PLEASE learn to use proper punctuation, capitalisation, sentences and paragraphs! Do you have any idea how hard it is to read a post that long when it's one big lump of text and has no proper structure???

2nd point -
You lost any credibility with me when you started saying that the Bible has had bits translated to support this. Take some time to read some of Beth's posts in the World Religion forums and you'll see why I say this.

So far all I'm seeing is VERY LOOSE translations of a few bits of a few ancient texts and prophesies that have so far proven to be so obscure in their translations that they can AND HAVE been interpreted to mean just about anything you want them to.

Do you all think you are the first generation to claim to have truly "accurate" knowledge of when the world is going to end? Are you aware that the newly formed Christian church were believing that the world was going to end nearly 2000 years ago based on the way they were interpreting the Old Testament?

People grab interpretations and a few scattered events, add them all together and take a flying leap to a conclusion that the world will end in "nnnn" year. Nothing new here!

James.

[GothicDragonX]

Here are a few sites to give you info and possibly turn non-believers into believers,these sites tell of what may happen in 2012:
http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/eden/myths/myths_06.html
http://www.velocity.net/~edju/
http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
http://www.apocalypsesoon.org/english.html
http://67.120.246.148/traditions/book_excerpts/religion/history/lifton/destroy_world1.asp

[jc84corvette]

quote:Originally posted by GothicDragonX

Here are a few sites to give you info and possibly turn non-believers into believers,these sites tell of what may happen in 2012:
http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/eden/myths/myths_06.html
http://www.velocity.net/~edju/
http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
http://www.apocalypsesoon.org/english.html
http://67.120.246.148/traditions/book_excerpts/religion/history/lifton/destroy_world1.asp

None of these convince me at all. Have any more spuff evidence?

[Arc]

Nice post james, How much earlier would it be clow? some speculation and rumors speak of 2004, right now

I have also heard that not a war, but an ascention will occur, as a whole people, not a few. Like jesus or buddha supposedly did(examples)

Have you any info on what might also happen?

[Clow]

I was to thinking around the 2004 for area.

This may help quite a few people here. ok caps lock and...WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HELL DEMONS DAMN IT. JUST LIKE IN ANY RACE YOU CAN HAVE A EVIL RULER AND THERE IS ONE IN THE ASTRAL PLANE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ASTRAL DEMONS. I mean omg If I drop a boulder on your head and you don't believe I did does that prevent your head bieng pulverized.

[James S]

Clow,
Firstly, STOP SHOUTING!
Secondly, Where is this 'proof' of a Demonic Ruler of the Astral? Would any of our more experienced Astral Projectors care to comment on this?

James.

[1Zenryoku]

Blah Blah Blah thats all I here Nay-sayers, get a grip everybody
heres the deal some people take this prophicey from a religious stand point others from the astral,  Even I myself I take it from the theory of the multiverse that 2 of the diminsions are going to collapse on one another to form a combination or they will simply break through... Its not a matter on where they come from it a matter of what will you do to stop them!!!  I myself am dedicated to make sure I am prepared mentally physically and spiritually Ohh and to the guy who said I would be "trapped in a cave out numbered"  well hey I would rather die a honorable death in combat than any other way, All of my friends say if it happens that they will use my house as a fallout shelter if we live through it. I will make DAMN sure I can take care of the people I truly care about and and demon that tries to touch them will have to kill me first I would rather die and let them escape than hide in a cave like a cowered waiting to die.  Remember the anticipation of death is far worse than death itself... I am in training the only question left is what are yall gonna do!!!!!!!!! so there!!!!

[Aries]

I would agree with 1zen about trying to fight would be better then letting them slaughter us. But do we really know if there will be demons at all? What if they are friendly but just look like nasty creatures?
-Aries

[1Zenryoku]

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[1Zenryoku]

well then I will be very healthy from the trainin and not kill them unless they look like the easter bunny!!!!!!!!!!

yeah what are the odds of something with claws and fangs and a bad reputation of being friendly

I can here the song now somthing like "Death Claw the friendly demon!!!"
(casper rip off)

[volcomstone]

I think your interpretation of the mayan calender and other prophecies is much different than most "educated" and "experts" in the fields of myth and prophecy, thats not a bad thing per se,

I have some questions:

1. Is the entire universe going to be combined with this demon dimension? or is it only earth?

2. If the entire universe is involved does where does it start?

3. are the demons simply going to materialize out of thin air? or will there be a portal?

3.how many dimensions does this demon dimension consist of? in the demon dimension is there an UP DOWN LEFT AND RIGHT?> does time exist in the demon dimension?

4. where do the demons live? will their world exist in our dimension? will their "space" take up Our space? or will only individual demons appear?

5. what specifically about the cosmic allignment causes this dimensional convergence?

6. why would any demon show its true form to you anyway? it would be at a disadvantage to look obvious and peculiar

7. what about the other astral dimensions? will they converge too? or will it only be the demon one specifically?

[Jeff_Mash]

Hi 1Zenryoku,

First of all, I don't know you from Adam, so don't take offense to this.

The problem (?) I have with what you said is that you're doing exactly what GothicDragonX and others have done.  You take what YOU BELIEVE and speak it as truth to others.  

I may be misunderstanding you, and for that I apologize, but I'm basing my argument on your statement below:

quote:Originally posted by 1Zenryoku
Even I myself I take it from the theory of the multiverse that 2 of the diminsions are going to collapse on one another to form a combination or they will simply break through... Its not a matter on where they come from it a matter of what will you do to stop them!!!

In just that short sentence, you have revealed the following:

1) You are believing in a THEORY, not something that can be backed up.

2) Assuming that this theory is true, what is the basis for this theory?  In other words, how did they theorize that two dimensions (out of many, many dimensions out there) will somehow collapse on top of each other?

3) By saying "it's not a matter of where but what you will do to stop them," you're unconsciously making the statement, "Look, this is true whether you believe in it or not....I'm just the messenger."  Well, I need to know WHY people believe in something before I can learn to believe in it myself.  So perhaps you can tell us WHY you believe in what you say.

Looking forward to your reply.

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by James S
Secondly, Where is this 'proof' of a Demonic Ruler of the Astral? Would any of our more experienced Astral Projectors care to comment on this?

I have yet to see this infamous Demonic Ruler of the Astral.  But hey, I've only been doing this for over 5 years.  Perhaps he is avoiding me or something.

[Aries]

Volcomstone I think those questions are unanswerable by anyone at this time.
And 1zen the easter bunny would be more powerfull then you could imagine.
Ever see search for the holy grail?? That wasent even the easter bunny, just one of his lackeys..
-Aries

[Anonymous]

From what I can see no one really knows anything about what they are talking about.  The believers and the non-believers both.  The believers really can't prove anything aside from conviction and tossed together texts.  The nob-believers can't prove the believers wrong aside from saying that they are just flat out insane.  How about we talk about this when there is actually more proof or it actually happens.

[neo]

GothicDragonX, i was once like u, trained alot and became strong. but if there is a war, there is no way me, you or anyone else will b able to stop it. IF beings do come to earth, they will be so strong u wouldent beleive it. i doubt all of us combined could hurt one of these beings, let alone a whole army.

but hey, i HOPE im wrong or we r in deep s**t[xx(]

[Aries]

I would have to agree with Neo that we wouldnt have a Prare of defeating them. But also I think that it is no reason to give up, if these Demons do come, better to go down kicking and screaming in my oppinion.
-Aries

[neo]

dont get me wrong,i will fight untill the last man. but who knows we may all turn into super saiyans and destroy all the beings with a kamehameha[] or more likly we will all stand in a big line and die one by one, but i would rather die the hounerble way than hidding[]

[Aries]

Well there is always a chance we would wipe the floor with them, but no matter what happens they will not "take our world" without resistance.
to quote south park..  VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!!
-Aries

[neo]

and also i think we should go by what Follower of the Khuli said "How about we talk about this when there is actually more proof or it actually happens" (thats some good advice)

[Aries]

It never hurts to be prepared. Better safe then sorry right?
-Aries