Can you give more info pal, or is this just trust me type of thing.
perchance the demon war is the war within yourself as you battle your own inner darkness. WHY wait till 2012! Start now, seek out your darkness and deal with it. Demons are just heavily abused gods[:D]
Xander
PM me about what you are trying to do in a detailed format, please. It will give me something to read during my morning coffee. Perhaps it will spark an interest or maybe not. Wow, this is kind of like telemarketing, lol.
Yea can you post alittle more info? I am intrested in this but I would like to hear more on it from you. What kind of training etc etc...
-Aries
good luck gothic dragon I hope the winds of fortune blow you in the direction of truth and valour,
beware the seven headed serpent and the smokey barbeque potato chips, take heed in the wisdom that is passed down by downy static guard
the demons will be tough to conquer but once the pinapple has been cut semi-circularly the stars will align to cause the fourth density level to materialize into the plane of the ancients
of course don't forget about the illuminati they will be supporting the vile demons of N'biru, HOARD YOUR GOLD AND COPPER, they will provide a means of destroying the physical demons
once victory is ours the spoils of war will be available to us, the ACE or active coronal elements will no longer be passed through a sieve placed by the pleidians
and ultimate power shall be MINE!!! bwahahahahaahh JEllo jello jello
I sense your envy of my neck! bow before me and the kleenex, CROUTONS are the evil older than mankind! scourge the plaque that is encrusted onto the proverbial enamel of earth!, relinquish your feelings of hate and bladder fullness, understand the knowledge an infinite order higher than that of the common pimple, invest in chocolate!
----this insane rant has been brought to you by far-fetched illogical correctness ---
What the hell are you talking about volcom?
-Aries
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Originally posted by Aries
What the hell are you talking about volcom?
I assume the same thing that GothicDragonX is talking about...Nonsense.
Dang, now I'm just hungry after reading this thread. [:P]
Nay.
I think in many instances the intentions of the dbz demon warriors are in the right, its just the way they go about it,
they want to change and affect the world for the good, but they're going in the wrong direction.
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Originally posted by volcomstone
I think in many instances the intentions of the dbz demon warriors are in the right, its just the way they go about it,
they want to change and affect the world for the good, but they're going in the wrong direction.
*sigh*...isn't DBZ a CARTOON????? they go the way the artist draw them to go.
Nay.
If anyone has read what i wrote and is interested in the offer im me or email,i will answer any questions you want to ask.You ask me info then i will ask you info.
m4tt sayz: if you learned your "techniques" from some geocities site or theteachingsofki i pity u
GothicDragonX: i already know of the energy
m4tt sayz: how
GothicDragonX: u have no idea of what i can do
m4tt sayz: then tell me
GothicDragonX: just wait and see
m4tt sayz: dont just say that
m4tt sayz: tell me
GothicDragonX signed off at 6:40:09 PM.
though this is only the end of your conversation, it is easy to see that he doesnt know what he is talking about and has no proof of it.
Umm how many people are in this forcE? Give some more info about that.
To all of those out there that seem to be prepairing for this war, could any of you please tell me what your source of information is?
What is this great indisputable oracle of unquestionable future knowledge that have you all absolutely convinced without question that 2012 is going to be the time of some global demonic upheval?
James.
Yeah, I'm with him.... *points at James* I am totally curious as well.
Nay
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Originally posted by Nay
Yeah, I'm with him.... *points at James* I am totally curious as well.
Nay
yeah me too.
I know about the 2012 war and all but I do not think it will happen.
It's people like mattrox that have no faith,he knows nothing.He is to blind by modern science and what the conformist government has put into his mind by the use of propaganda.For that I pity him.
Shush you.
This "war" is just pretty much a game of chinese whispers, it evolves to how each person wants to see it.
Nostradamus predicted a demonic war around the time of 2012 or 2007 and the mayan calander ends in 2012... those stories along with a couple more that i cant recall at this point in time lead to this war with demons in 2012.
There was actually a good topic about this in the Energy sub forum before it got closed... the only topic in that forum that had some substance to it.
but Nostradamus' "demonic war" could really mean any type of war with demonic or devistating factors about it.... and could be at any time from now to like 2050. not necessarily a war with demons.
I think people such as GothicDragon, ssjFive and shenron should all go and write a story or something, put their imagination and facination with demons to paper and stop trying to make other people believe it they way they see it.
-Syke
"2012 The Rise of The Antichrist" The dragon's last head is prpearing to surface and start what hister(a name that Nostradamus used from one of his visions to tell about Adolf Hitler)had failed to do.
Or maybe the pollution we created to this planet might finally backfire at us.
This is so funny!!!!!!!
GothicDragon we all would like more info on this please. How many people are in your group? Where do you get your info from? How long have you been training?
-Aries
I FIX!!!!!!!!!! here goes
Many people believe that the end of the world will come with the ending of 2012 december 21st, the final date in the mayan calendar. what the mayans calculated was that the earth would return to a point in space where it started off about 5000+ years ago, the beggining of a new cycle. The alignment of the earth at that point is supposed to enhance its magnetic (and vibrational?) frequencies due to celestial objects in relation to earth (celestial bodies, stars, planets, galaxies, etc..)to a point which it has not seen for 5 millenia. This is when two dimensions are supposed to merge. A demon relm and our relm. These demons can not be hurt with technology thet can only be harmed with ki (spirit energy) A warriors punch will have more effect than a bullet. some say that the spiritually weak will be killed in the merger. I know I won't but it makes you think doesn't it. I know we have all heard of the end of the world but this is the coolest one I have heard yet. Imagine it it would be like after judgement day in TERMINANTOR........ It would be so cool. I mean kinda bad but it would be a battle to end all battles. I like a good fight and at this time I would have a divine right to kill my enemies the demons. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: (Gods permission)
so I will train harder for the next eight years in wait for the war. what will you do???
I think that to spend the next 8 years in training would not be a good use of time.
And I also dont think that the end of the world would be cool.. or something to look forward to.
There is alot of changes that need to be done to the world, but first we must learn to unite as a whole. Most people are to concerened with money, and where they are gonna get there next high, or when they will next get some butt..
In my oppinion the world isnt ready for this type of thing, and if it were to happen any time soon we would all be f*cked.
-Aries
So what if we are not ready for it. That's what always happens anyways. Big deal if we are all f*cked. That's how it works. You could not train and it could happen and you would die. You could train and it could happen and you will be all alone in some cave because you are seriously outnumbered. You could not train and it could not happen and you could keep on going on getting a piece of the cash, a piece of *ss, and a piece to smoke from. You could train and it doesn't happen and then you are just really healthy and going to live along time. Pretty much there are going to be the people who train and the people who don't. Might as well quit talking about it because that is how it is.
Ryoku you have it right on the dot and I don't think I could have put it better.
This is what most of you have been waiting for,i'm going to tell you the information you want to know.Ever since i was young i have always had an urge to protect people,(i know it sounds like basic super hero b.s.,but its the truth)Everyone I tried has come easy to me,i have an ability where i can adapt to any situation fast,you can ask my friends and family if you do not believe.Any ways in 1998-200- i became very interested in ancient prophets and prophecies and the strange occurences in this world.I was also a big fan of dbz and many other anime.In the summer of 2000,me and 3 of my friends started a very long game of d&d(dungeons & dragons)bUt we added a dbz twist to it,we built characters based on things like energy adn techniques.The game evolved in many ways,we would to hard physical adn mental training to give our characters a power level increase.After a while i brought up the subject of how it would be if it were real,i had known of ki and jing for a long time.I just never really sat down and thought about it so i started to train as it were real,then many strange occurences of our own begin to happen,there were an increased number of deaths in the family,my cousin's that were in it began to see many wierd things,then i sat down and thought and i noticed the irony of how life is,this i guess you could say was the true beginning of knowing the path i have chosen.In the last 6 months i really got serious in ki training,and i have increased so much.Then as i trained i began to have strange dreams and sometimes i would pass out and see many things,i kept away from my parents my secret life of training,then i studied astral projection adn lucid dreams,i had many occurences with those adn seeing a war between humans and demons,i also studied the culture of the navajo indians,they tell of story of a generation of humans who were advanced at there time,took the earth for granite and they were condemned by by the earth,there own tools came to life as if possessed and began to kill them,then it has a warning of of another occurence like this,except it had a date of when it would happen,it stated that if by,the winter solstice of 2012 that if the current generation did not give back and thank the planet that it would be cleansed again.Also if you study the mayan calender and the heiroglyphics in some ancient egyptian texts they tell of the end of the world sometime between 2012 adn 2014.ALso Nostradamus spoke of the same years,and if you have ever seen bible prophecies on tlc you would have heard that the bible can be used as a book to tell the future,it would have to be in the context of metaphors however,translated it stated that something would big would happen in 2012,sometime in between 2016 and 2024 and again in 2050,they also discovered that the bible only wnet as far as 2053.These are some of my sources of info the others come from what i have read by other teens adn what they sense i also have my owen notions.i know is you were to train fo the next 8 years yould be a waist of time if nothing happened,but just imagine if it did happen,i'm not saying to drop everything for the next 8 years and go live in a cave and train,just live out a normal life and train,but don't stop training all together.You can choose what you want to do,it your choice to train or not.if you are ineterested in preparing i suggest you contact me,i will answer any question you wish to ask,the current number of members is 12,we need more.If i had my original group we would already be up to about thirty,but people change,sometimes for the worst.I don't appreciate ridicule or sarcasm,if you don't believe in this and don't care for it,don't contact or leave a post,we have no time for jokes,this war may happen it may not,it could happen a long time from now but i don't think it would hurt to be prepared,it could be like terminator,sarah connor stayed alive long enough to htink she stopped judgement day,but in the end she only postponed it,lets prepare to meet it head on,BECAUSE I WILL NOT FALL AGAIN,I WILL NOT STAND BY AS AND LET THE SHADOW OF DEATH CREEP UP ON US SO EASILY,I'M NOT GOING DOWN WITH OUT A FIGHT,NOW'S WHO'S WITH ME IF YOU ARE,CONTACT ME ASAP.ALSO I FOUNDED THIS TEAM OR FORCE FOUR YEARS AGO BUT ONLY AS A GAME NOW ITS A REALITY,A WEBSITE WILL BE MADE TO TELL MORE ABOUT IT SOON.JUST KEEP IT IN MIND.
Sad thing is that you will get sarcasm. I've been through this twice. You have to cut through it and look for the believers. The rest are lost.
I want to state publicly that I am part of Gothic's team.
Also I want to add that the prophecies are quite a bit off. This war will happen sooner than the prophecies state. So don't put training off.
Abdi here, to tell you the truth I see others as helpless human beings, I feel like I know their problems and how to solve them better than they do, like
a psychiatrist. I can see consequences of my friends actions
or issues that they would have just by observing their personalities.
I feel like am living outside the box and I can see through people, for what they really are. Like an animal expert, I can study, predict their actons an reactions, and know how to help them better than others. Anyways, if anything is going to happend in 2012 ,natural
disaster(floods), world war 3(rise of a dictator or antichrist), big,
big holes open in the ozone layer, outburst of a new deadly diseae, plague, epidemic, or virus,(AIDS,mad cow) that cannot be stopped,it
will have an enormous effect on us because we deserve it,(almost all of us except few on this planet)seeing grown adults acting inhumane
on Jerry Springer, Maury, Cops, you name it, they have failed to
live in peace and prosperity because of sins they commit every day. I came from Europe to USA in fourth grade, same story there. When my grandma(very religious) saw Jerry Springer for the first time she couldn't believe what she was seeing. The point is, it's only going to get worse untill they destroy themselves for money from alcohol,drugs,
selling their bodies, but I don't blame them, they grew up in a world
where other generations have made it a worse place. Remeber seeing clips from some old
tv shows from the 50's 60's or 70's the people in them looked so civilized.
the mayans where just any other civilization on the planet, why would they be any different from the egyptians, the sumerians, or the ancient chinese? What about the greek?
the mayans where flawed. they became extinct, they got conquered, they couldn't even survive to 2012.
what about those who do not believe in demons? will they be harmed?
you people have a great imagination, and no dougt anime movies are cool, but they are cartoons, great exagerations on reality
BUT FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THATS SANE AND RATIONAL< STOP WITH THE 2012 BULL it is annoying and no one cares, you guys should private email the little propaganda your feeding yourselves and stop posting stupid topics that have no actual info in them
if you where able to say, create a bibliography, or at least ONE SINGLE INTERNET LINK TO A REPUTED MAYAN RESEARCHER, or anything,
you might have someothers believing you
Ok, GothicDragonX,
1st point -
Please, please, PLEASE learn to use proper punctuation, capitalisation, sentences and paragraphs! Do you have any idea how hard it is to read a post that long when it's one big lump of text and has no proper structure???
2nd point -
You lost any credibility with me when you started saying that the Bible has had bits translated to support this. Take some time to read some of Beth's posts in the World Religion forums and you'll see why I say this.
So far all I'm seeing is VERY LOOSE translations of a few bits of a few ancient texts and prophesies that have so far proven to be so obscure in their translations that they can AND HAVE been interpreted to mean just about anything you want them to.
Do you all think you are the first generation to claim to have truly "accurate" knowledge of when the world is going to end? Are you aware that the newly formed Christian church were believing that the world was going to end nearly 2000 years ago based on the way they were interpreting the Old Testament?
People grab interpretations and a few scattered events, add them all together and take a flying leap to a conclusion that the world will end in "nnnn" year. Nothing new here!
James.
Here are a few sites to give you info and possibly turn non-believers into believers,these sites tell of what may happen in 2012:
http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/eden/myths/myths_06.html
http://www.velocity.net/~edju/
http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
http://www.apocalypsesoon.org/english.html
http://67.120.246.148/traditions/book_excerpts/religion/history/lifton/destroy_world1.asp
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Originally posted by GothicDragonX
Here are a few sites to give you info and possibly turn non-believers into believers,these sites tell of what may happen in 2012:
http://tlc.discovery.com/convergence/eden/myths/myths_06.html
http://www.velocity.net/~edju/
http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
http://www.apocalypsesoon.org/english.html
http://67.120.246.148/traditions/book_excerpts/religion/history/lifton/destroy_world1.asp
None of these convince me at all. Have any more spuff evidence?
Nice post james, How much earlier would it be clow? some speculation and rumors speak of 2004, right now
I have also heard that not a war, but an ascention will occur, as a whole people, not a few. Like jesus or buddha supposedly did(examples)
Have you any info on what might also happen?
I was to thinking around the 2004 for area.
This may help quite a few people here. ok caps lock and...WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HELL DEMONS DAMN IT. JUST LIKE IN ANY RACE YOU CAN HAVE A EVIL RULER AND THERE IS ONE IN THE ASTRAL PLANE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ASTRAL DEMONS. I mean omg If I drop a boulder on your head and you don't believe I did does that prevent your head bieng pulverized.
Clow,
Firstly, STOP SHOUTING!
Secondly, Where is this 'proof' of a Demonic Ruler of the Astral? Would any of our more experienced Astral Projectors care to comment on this?
James.
Blah Blah Blah thats all I here Nay-sayers, get a grip everybody
heres the deal some people take this prophicey from a religious stand point others from the astral, Even I myself I take it from the theory of the multiverse that 2 of the diminsions are going to collapse on one another to form a combination or they will simply break through... Its not a matter on where they come from it a matter of what will you do to stop them!!! I myself am dedicated to make sure I am prepared mentally physically and spiritually Ohh and to the guy who said I would be "trapped in a cave out numbered" well hey I would rather die a honorable death in combat than any other way, All of my friends say if it happens that they will use my house as a fallout shelter if we live through it. I will make DAMN sure I can take care of the people I truly care about and and demon that tries to touch them will have to kill me first I would rather die and let them escape than hide in a cave like a cowered waiting to die. Remember the anticipation of death is far worse than death itself... I am in training the only question left is what are yall gonna do!!!!!!!!! so there!!!!
I would agree with 1zen about trying to fight would be better then letting them slaughter us. But do we really know if there will be demons at all? What if they are friendly but just look like nasty creatures?
-Aries
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well then I will be very healthy from the trainin and not kill them unless they look like the easter bunny!!!!!!!!!!
yeah what are the odds of something with claws and fangs and a bad reputation of being friendly
I can here the song now somthing like "Death Claw the friendly demon!!!"
(casper rip off)
I think your interpretation of the mayan calender and other prophecies is much different than most "educated" and "experts" in the fields of myth and prophecy, thats not a bad thing per se,
I have some questions:
1. Is the entire universe going to be combined with this demon dimension? or is it only earth?
2. If the entire universe is involved does where does it start?
3. are the demons simply going to materialize out of thin air? or will there be a portal?
3.how many dimensions does this demon dimension consist of? in the demon dimension is there an UP DOWN LEFT AND RIGHT?> does time exist in the demon dimension?
4. where do the demons live? will their world exist in our dimension? will their "space" take up Our space? or will only individual demons appear?
5. what specifically about the cosmic allignment causes this dimensional convergence?
6. why would any demon show its true form to you anyway? it would be at a disadvantage to look obvious and peculiar
7. what about the other astral dimensions? will they converge too? or will it only be the demon one specifically?
Hi 1Zenryoku,
First of all, I don't know you from Adam, so don't take offense to this.
The problem (?) I have with what you said is that you're doing exactly what GothicDragonX and others have done. You take what YOU BELIEVE and speak it as truth to others.
I may be misunderstanding you, and for that I apologize, but I'm basing my argument on your statement below:
quote:
Originally posted by 1Zenryoku
Even I myself I take it from the theory of the multiverse that 2 of the diminsions are going to collapse on one another to form a combination or they will simply break through... Its not a matter on where they come from it a matter of what will you do to stop them!!!
In just that short sentence, you have revealed the following:
1) You are believing in a THEORY, not something that can be backed up.
2) Assuming that this theory is true, what is the basis for this theory? In other words, how did they theorize that two dimensions (out of many, many dimensions out there) will somehow collapse on top of each other?
3) By saying "it's not a matter of where but what you will do to stop them," you're unconsciously making the statement, "Look, this is true whether you believe in it or not....I'm just the messenger." Well, I need to know WHY people believe in something before I can learn to believe in it myself. So perhaps you can tell us WHY you believe in what you say.
Looking forward to your reply.
quote:
Originally posted by James S
Secondly, Where is this 'proof' of a Demonic Ruler of the Astral? Would any of our more experienced Astral Projectors care to comment on this?
I have yet to see this infamous Demonic Ruler of the Astral. But hey, I've only been doing this for over 5 years. Perhaps he is avoiding me or something.
Volcomstone I think those questions are unanswerable by anyone at this time.
And 1zen the easter bunny would be more powerfull then you could imagine.
Ever see search for the holy grail?? That wasent even the easter bunny, just one of his lackeys..
-Aries
From what I can see no one really knows anything about what they are talking about. The believers and the non-believers both. The believers really can't prove anything aside from conviction and tossed together texts. The nob-believers can't prove the believers wrong aside from saying that they are just flat out insane. How about we talk about this when there is actually more proof or it actually happens.
GothicDragonX, i was once like u, trained alot and became strong. but if there is a war, there is no way me, you or anyone else will b able to stop it. IF beings do come to earth, they will be so strong u wouldent beleive it. i doubt all of us combined could hurt one of these beings, let alone a whole army.
but hey, i HOPE im wrong or we r in deep s**t[xx(]
I would have to agree with Neo that we wouldnt have a Prare of defeating them. But also I think that it is no reason to give up, if these Demons do come, better to go down kicking and screaming in my oppinion.
-Aries
dont get me wrong,i will fight untill the last man. but who knows we may all turn into super saiyans and destroy all the beings with a kamehameha[:P] or more likly we will all stand in a big line and die one by one, but i would rather die the hounerble way than hidding[:D]
Well there is always a chance we would wipe the floor with them, but no matter what happens they will not "take our world" without resistance.
to quote south park.. VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!!
-Aries
and also i think we should go by what Follower of the Khuli said "How about we talk about this when there is actually more proof or it actually happens" (thats some good advice)
It never hurts to be prepared. Better safe then sorry right?
-Aries
yup, we should b prepared. i know u say we should still try(we should) but dont keep ur hopes up because we r not even the strongest animals on this planet, take a look at a gorilla! they would destoy us, also there is the bear, or the lion, shark!!!! if these beings are some of the strongest in thE astral(universe werever they come from)i dont think we will b able to land a shot, do u ?
We have an advantage here on Earth over the other Earth animals.
While we may not be physicly the strongest. We are the most devious, intuitive and ingenious species on the planet.
Sure a gorilla could snap my neck like a pencil but he would have to get past my .50 caliber slugs being fired out of my Deagle to do that... of course my deagle probly wouldnt work in the astral... so thats another story!
-Aries
I appreciate those who support me,those who don't believe what you want.I don't want to spend my time trying to convince everyone that it will happen,it may not who knows.I will tell you one thing I am going to keep training in preperation for it.It could be astral or hell i don't it could be both,but i'm in strong belief that it is astral.We must prepare for it either way,some of you say that we won't stand a chance,WE WILL!!!!!!!!!!!,I WILL NOT FALL AGAIN!!,help i beg those who believe,we must come together,we must unite,we can take them you just have to belief.All of those who are with me post this statement,I WILL PREPARE FOR WHAT MAY COME!!!
lol, very true
The only reason I could see us failing is because most of the world wont even be prepared. I think I pm'd u gothicdragon but you didnt reply.
I would like to know more on your training...
-Aries
Ah damn all kinds of crap I'm gonna have to sort out. Yes the demons will be horribly strong but you are forgetting one thing neo I once Also over looked it. We to have a astral body. So we will also become very strong maybe not as strong as A demon unless your Jet Li or something.
That will still give us a chance.
O.k. Volcome I forget most all your questions but here are the answers to the ones I remeber.
Our plane is our entire universe so no it will not be just Earth. My guess is that Both worlds will fuse. So there will be parts of both in this demension. Also almost are all of your questions werent able to be answered because we havnt really been there to find out.
James S Chances are you are not going to meet him. There are so many parts of the Astral Demensions places that a soul has never been too.
It's not like Zi is going to come up and ask you what you think of the weather.
Can anyone explain more on the Demon ruler of the Astral please?
-Aries
depends, were we fight the war,in the astral which many cant get to our on earth were our astral bodies wont work, either way we r doomed
(simple realy)[:(]
Yea but when they come to Earth they have to follow the same rules and laws we do... so theoreticly couldnt we just "pop a cap in there grump asses" ??
-Aries
Even though the earth may not be prepared we can still prepare,we can try to get as many people as we can to help us,if you are with me tell me on a post,i need to know if your going to take action or just sit there and talk about it.
I will take action! I will not let any other beings take over our planet while I am around... I am not sure as to what exactly I would do, but it wouldnt be sitting in a corner playing with myself I can tell you that much!
And as I said befor gothicdragon, I have PM'd you asking you questions and you didnt respond..
-Aries
Alot of you fear the fact that if the war is on the astral plane not many will get and on earth we won't be able to use our astral body.Maybe there is a type of fusion of our astral and physical,like in sleep paralysis.Nothing is impossible there could be a way.Maybe it could be the ultimate transcendence.Think about it,it has to be possible,if the demons from an astral plane can come to a physical plane maybe its possible for us to fuse with our astral body.If anyone has any opinions on this or info,contact me.Also if you support my offer to fight with me post it!
I think it would be possible to "fuse" like that but only after mastering it (of course), which may take along time... I myself have only had sleep paralysis after having a Neg attached to me..
-Aries
To all you war junkies -
Ok, I think this has gone far enough!
This topic seems to be going the same way as all the DBZ / ki ball topics. If you bunch of war recruits want to keep chatting about your plan of attack take it off the forum into a chat room!
We've now got three threads going with the same people talking about the same thing!
So far all the people that I've seen posting about this 'demonic war' thing are the same people who I've seen posting about DBZ type ki ball's or talking about 'ki training'
Does anyone else see this pattern ?
The thing that annoys most of the members here who actually posess somthing resembling common sense is the fact that most of you can't seem to tell the difference between what is real and what is fantasy!
You've learned about ki and fighting demons from CARTOONS and MOVIES, and now you're trying to apply it to the real world?
If any of you are offended by this, TOUGH!GET OVER IT!
From now on if you wish to talk about these wars and preparing for them, DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!
Unless any of the other moderators here wish to add anything further to this topic, IT WILL NOW BE LOCKED!
Any other topics that might be started regarding demonic wars will be deleted for exactly the same reasons that topics about ki balls are being deleted.
James.
I've been training in ki for a long time now.I've read alot about the demon war of 2012, and the new planet approaching.I do sense something drastic is about to happen in our world.You can believe me if you wish,i do not want any sarcasm or to be ridiculed. The only main things i do know is this, i have mastered many of the techniques i ki and i have done astral projection and i have done many obe's. These visions many of you have had i have also had.I have come to say that i'm not going to be beaten by a bunch of demons from hell or from the astral plane or from another planet.I am starting a force to stand against this,not to sound arrogant,but my knowledge of this is vast.So if you are interested in the offer to join this force or at least be noticed,contact me at GothicDragonX@aol.com,if this information is not enough to make you believe me,trust me what i say is what i can do.