A spirit told me the lottery numbers!

[King]

Don't tell me a spirit can't tell you the real lottery numbers,

First, I find it so funny when people say "spirits won't tell you the lottery numbers, numbers are not important to them/ or / it will mess with the life path you have to follow..." .....    

Second, they are millions (billions?) of spirits, why the hell one of them would not be willing to help me? I'm not talking about my spirit guides, I don't need a 2cent advice about life if that's what they can only offer because they just want you to suffer and gro through shi* just for uncessary spiritual growth.

if a spirit wants it, I will sell him whatever the fu** he or she wants in exchange for the precious numbers.

Ok, im angry tonight, but I've said the truth.

[Summerlander]

I can see that you are angry...what happened?

More to the topic, attempting to get the lottery numbers via Mode 2 OOBEs (Astral Projection) is not a crime and can greatly improve the quality of one's life so I'm with you on that one. I've always done things on my own though - I never thought of asking for help from other beings in the Phase state is what I mean.

I might give that a go and see where that leads me...

[Astral316]

I'm guessing they were the wrong lottery numbers?

[Summerlander]

If they were wrong...just chill. There may be a plethora of possible futures and the spirits probably have a hard time figuring out which one correlates best with the course of events of this universe.

After all...infinite potentia may collapse into finite possibility according to the current way of things of one particular version of reality...and I'm gonna stop waffling here.

[SomeRandom]

You may save face, but you will never save your soul.

[King]

Who cares about saving my soul? At this point I just need cash.

I use automatic writing, it's working great, but the last time I spent days communicating with a spirit, the numbers she told me where completly fake, eventough i was updated every day with any number that had changed. The spirit wanted me to write a letter to her daughter, I promised to do it, only if the numbers given to me where the right one. Turned out, the numbers where fake so I stopped everything and told the spirit to go to hell..

[urshebear]

what if they were the right numbers in a differant state or country?

[Karas]

What makes you think dead people/spirits are psychic? The woman helped you out with numbers and they were wrong. Least she helpped taking part of it and you broke your part of the deal.... Also I think a letter to her loved ones is more importent then winning the lottery. If you were a spirit you wouldn't know the winning numbers ither cause your not a psychic

[King]

No no no ! I didn't break any part of the deal, it was clear from the beggining that I wanted to contact any spirit who needed my help on this physical realm and in exchange they would help me with the right numbers.

The lottery name and date was clear, and i communicated every night for 5 days until the lottery drawing so the spirit had PLENTY of time to find the correct numbers.

Too bad the lady did not gave me the right numbers, I was willing to help her and do everything i could to contact her daghter.

I think spirits can foresee the future if they really want it, wich should be the case since they need my help.

[Under_the_Midnight_Sun]

I think you shouldn't be so selfish. As karas said, "a letter to her loved ones is more important than winning the lottery."
Who knows, maybe the spirit is testing you for genuineness, and for an altruistic attitude.
You should go ahead and contact her daughter (if this isn't a fictitious story in the first place). You've got nothin to lose    
Maybe the spirit would even supply you with the lottery #'s afterwards..

[King]

Well, I think that every work deserve to be rewarded and writing a full letter with automatic writing takes a LOT of time,

I think that many spirits only focus on what they want us, (humans living in the physical realm) to do for them and they are ready to tell you any lie or fairy tale to get you to do them a favour.

Since I have been scammed with my first try, eventough i repeated again and again that I wouldn't do anything until I get the numbers right, Im willing to start all over again and im searching for a new spirit, who wants me to do something for him or her on this realm.

NOW, the FACTS :

Millions on people play the lottery every day. Thousands of people die every year. Of those thousands people, A LOT played to lottery and wanted to win every week...Why the hell can't I find a spirit willing to help me, who may understand my desire to win?

Last point : I think the future is not set in stone, which means that the numbers are changing every day as the lottery drawing is coming, BUT i think that a few hours from the lottery drawing when I'm playing, there shouldn't be any major change in the numbers I have played with.

[personalreality]

anyone see that nicholas cage movie Next?  Where he could see two minutes into his own future. 

at one point he said, knowledge of your future always changes it.

just saying.

[Stookie_]

Why would a random spirit know lottery numbers?

[personalreality]

I'm still wondering how there is proof that it was a random spirit at all.

I'm not denying the idea of a populated metaphysical universe, but it still seems like the most likely answer in a lot of these "automatic writing", "intuitive communication", etc. etc., type experiences is that it is your own mind talking to you.  i'm not saying that it's not a part of your mind that exists at a level far removed from the physical, but it doesn't have to be an independent "spirit" or whatever either. 

i'll put it this way, when i work with my pendulum, i don't believe that some discarnate entity if controlling the movement of the pendulum at my request to provide me with the answers i need.  i saw this stuff everyday at my last job, everyone always rambled on about the spirits or their guides and blah blah blah.  to me that is causing more harm to individual growth and development because it's accepting a subordinate position in the grand scheme of reality.  when i use my pendulum, i am responding to my question.  my self knows the answer and provides it.  i am reaching deep into the parts of my mind that aren't easily accessible through normal conscious awareness for a "quick answer".  if i need a more in depth answer i might refer to the rune stones, but the source of information is still me, i'm just spending more time exploring the answer.  if i need a lot of help, like one on one help, i'll use deep meditation to actively interact with my "subconscious"/"unconscious", that part of me that is aware of it's connection with reality.   

but it's still all me.

[Stookie_]

Absolutely. Everything we need is already within ourselves. Trust yourself before other beings.

[King]

Well, it's easy to trust yourself but when you have a body made of flesh and blood, how in the world can you retrieve information about a future event in a physical realm where nothing reacts to your toughts?

That's why spirits don't have to be psychic at all, because where they are, a simple thought is reality and they can know antyhing about everything.

[personalreality]

Well, it's easy to trust yourself but when you have a body made of flesh and blood, how in the world can you retrieve information about a future event in a physical realm where nothing reacts to your toughts?

then you're doing it wrong.  living i mean.  try again.

lol, that was mean. sorry.

but seriously, you're doing it wrong.  practical magic works if you're willing to commit to learning how to do it properly (properly is a relative term in this context) and to the discipline it takes.

[Stookie_]

That's why spirits don't have to be psychic at all, because where they are, a simple thought is reality and they can know antyhing about everything.

What makes you think that? Couldn't they be just regular joes without physical bodies?

[Summerlander]

I'm still wondering how there is proof that it was a random spirit at all.

I'm not denying the idea of a populated metaphysical universe, but it still seems like the most likely answer in a lot of these "automatic writing", "intuitive communication", etc. etc., type experiences is that it is your own mind talking to you.  i'm not saying that it's not a part of your mind that exists at a level far removed from the physical, but it doesn't have to be an independent "spirit" or whatever either. 

i'll put it this way, when i work with my pendulum, i don't believe that some discarnate entity if controlling the movement of the pendulum at my request to provide me with the answers i need.  i saw this stuff everyday at my last job, everyone always rambled on about the spirits or their guides and blah blah blah.  to me that is causing more harm to individual growth and development because it's accepting a subordinate position in the grand scheme of reality.  when i use my pendulum, i am responding to my question.  my self knows the answer and provides it.  i am reaching deep into the parts of my mind that aren't easily accessible through normal conscious awareness for a "quick answer".  if i need a more in depth answer i might refer to the rune stones, but the source of information is still me, i'm just spending more time exploring the answer.  if i need a lot of help, like one on one help, i'll use deep meditation to actively interact with my "subconscious"/"unconscious", that part of me that is aware of it's connection with reality.   

but it's still all me.

You make a good point here. I agree! What you've stated is quite feasible.

[G.Blaze]

OP you sound like you have a manic personality disorder. chill

[BrainStorm_wow]

Well what if instead of giving you wining numbers, what if a spirit could tell you what stocks to invest in? Would that be easier for them to figure out?