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Jeff_Mash

Hey Cel.....

I don't think you deserve to get shunned for your beliefs.  On the other hand, why do you let these guys bother you like this?  So what if they have a problem with your viewpoint?  Don't let it get to you.  

Here is how I look at things.  If I get ridiculed by 9 out of 10 people, that means there is at least one person who is curious about my viewpoint.  So again, take things with a grain of salt.  And please, stick around.
Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
http://www.mjmmagic.com

Tolvor

I was somewhat curious, as intolerance to astral viewpoints is unusual on this board.  The thread you are talking about here is http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9604

The problem is that your thread confused everyone.  You use terms noone (including me) is familiar with, concepts that seems to make no sense (Lucifer was thrown out of heaven for being too good??), and support your ideas with unprovable theories.  In short, you aren't presenting your ideas well.  To put it another way - take any non-fiction book, erase the page numbers and shuffle the pages, and maybe remove a few key pages.  The book won't make sense, and noone who reads that shuffled book will learn anything, EVEN IF the book/idea was brilliant, astonishing, and well researched.

I also checked your webpage http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=celabsynth  This is not a web page of someone who takes themselves seriously or who gives a lot of thought to their writings.  The design is interesting, the art is nice, the information content is a big problem.  [oh yea..I got an artistic soul....and a katana...I am red..and in the seventh level of hell....plus..I can shoot an M16A2...XD] (huh??) If you don't take your ideas seriously, or take time to present your ideas with care, few others will make the extra effort to try to understand what you are trying to tell them.

My best suggestion to you is to go back over the thread and seriously listen to the kinder comments that you got.  In addition reading through a book on thesis/essay presentation style, and on business presentation wouldn't hurt.  Confusing your audience and then storming off is bad form.

Nagual

I know you are still young but it's not the only and last time people will criticize you...  Try not to take these critics (or yourself) too seriously; the only thing that got hurt is your ego...  No big deal.  I know some people can be quite aggressive but just try to ignore them.
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I try and I try to show my own unique view of the astral

Where did you find this "unique" view...?
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

Ceriel N

The fault is not entirely on your side Cel, it is just that it takes a great deal of effort to interpret something that has a randomized layout. Few people can invest the time and attention needed to grasp it.

Time to build bridges, don't you think? [:)]

The reason ideas are given layout is so that they are easy to understand. I usually try to give a concrete example when I present an abstract idea, to sort of balance it out and give some flesh to the bones.
If I relay an experience I do so in chronological order, and try to chose words wisely.
If I ask a question I try to be as specific as I can. (Ergo, not simply blurting "What!?" despite wishing to do so.)

I know it can be hard if you have artistic tendencies, but remember, no creation is complete without form.

Hope this helps. [:)]
"We work in the dark - we do what we can- we give what we have. Our doubt is our passion, and our passion is our task. The rest is the madness of art."
- Henry James

Cel

I try and I try to show my own unique view of the astral and all I get are tear tearing replies. I never shun anothers beleifs..why do I deserve to get my own by people saying.

"What are you smoking?"
or
"It's all in your psyhcotic mind"
or
"You don't know what your talking about."

I'm sorry I tried to hang on and let it get past but it's just too much.