Am pretty bad at this and having difficulty improving, a partner might help?

[HelenaF]

I've been trying to get better at astral projection/OBEing, lucid dreaming, meditation, raising frequency and all that, but I keep failing, like, I get better and then I get worse, and so on. I'm lacking motivation and when I do get the motivation to get things done, I fail most of the time. I'm thinking having a partner to encourage/motivate each other, discuss techniques and what not might help. It might not, but it's worth a try imo, this sort of stuff is so esoteric, pretty much no one in my life heard about any of it, it's even harder to get motivated to succeed when you're the only one who thinks about this stuff. It would probably be better if we were both noobs at the same level more or less, but it's not mandatory. I hope this isn't a (too) stupid idea, lol, anyone interested PM me your Skype, thanks

[Phildan1]

Stop forcing it and if you want to be serious, this whole "learn to walk for first" thing will improve over time. Not to mention that if we never fail, what should we learn from only successful attempts? I can't even count how many unsuccessful attempts did I take to achieve normal OBE's in one year and I don't care. I will see and learn everything which I wanted to. Not the time itself is the problem, but the right focus to find for your "kind" and be successful in switching your focus to elsewhere.

I think many of us are loners in this world as topic. Regular people in this life around us are not interested in "more", and freak out from the NP (non-physical) subject, especially if it is not in some kind of self-fooling religious shell.

Just be determined, enjoy every attempts, dreams or whatever you achieve. This is your life, your journeys and just be patient with yourself Nobody will do your job. Just enjoy it and don't care about other noobs and regular people - they don't even have a clue about anything.

[HelenaF]

I'm not trying to force it or have someone else do my job. Improve over time, sure, but I'm pretty sure 5 years should be enough for some improvement, but in my case it isn't, because I lack motivation.

[Phildan1]

Sorry if I'm saying this that if you're lack of motivation, you need to ask yourself - do I want this really? Examine what you need to do in the NP or to know, to explore and sum that up. Get some aims, which ones are very precious to you and keep on going. Also try to examine your dreams.

Try to program you subconscious with repeated thoughts and focus on improving your awareness in dreams and you will see later, that you were projecting from your birth the whole time, with various degrees of awareness. We should start from somewhere.

Forcing could also mean that you lose your motivation with forced attempts. It can come from more sources, not just from the regular practicing alone. We have plenty of time to achieve anything in my opinion. Just think about your aims, your goals and work out your focus, which will allow you to detach from this world. It takes patience unfortunatelly.

Intention needs a strong desire
So if you are lacking of motivation, then there is the problem. I hope I helped You.

[PhaPriSpa]

In the following link of Astral Pulse you'll find a Topic with very useful Books to read.

Books of Lucid Dreaming - Astral Projection - OBE (Out of Body Experiences)
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/books_of_lucid_dreaming_astral_projection_obe_out_of_body_experiences-t46899.0.html

In your case, by the way you are feeling, read first the Book of Letitia M. Kimball called Keys To Successful OBE, in it she as Woman and Mother shares very Important Tips to be able to achieve Lucid Dreaming (Astral Travel) and also to improve your waking Life. She was a forum member of Astral Pulse in 2003 (as you'll read in her book) and she wanted to share with her fellow forumers this GREAT Book. You can access the download links of the Book in the link below.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/books_of_lucid_dreaming_astral_projection_obe_out_of_body_experiences-t46899.0.html;msg364867#msg364867

After that one, read the First Book on the List called Wake Up In Your Dreams - Conscious Dream Training Manual by Dr Rory Mac Sweeney, that Book contains EXACTLY the things that you need to achieve Lucid Dreaming (Astral Projection), that's why it is First on the List. You can check additional information about him and the download link of the Book in the link below.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_book_reviews/wake_up_in_your_dreams_by_dr_rory_mac_sweeney-t46897.0.html

Some of those books can be found on PDF format on Internet, but you'll have to search them; for the other ones in the Topic the download link (or link to read online) is provided as they're Free.

I tried to place first in the list the ones that are more Helpful and also when possible the ones that are Free, so try to find and read the ones that are First in the list. Even if it's 12 in the List, the book of Oliver Fox called Astral Projection: A Record Of Out-Of-The-Body Experiences is also a great book to read first as is very friendly to read.

You'll be Amazed at Letitia's Book and also at Dr Rory's Book, and of course the other ones too; in that Topic I also wrote some posts that you'll find helpful so check them too for inspiration and additional information.

(You Don't need any Partner to achieve this Nor the approval or motivation from other persons to be able to do it or to have to talk about this {you'll find with time that is Better to Keep this things in Private for your self and only talk about them with persons that already have their Consciousnesses Opened}; in this times Internet is a great tool to find everything you need to know about, and there are also communities like this one where persons with similar likes find a place to share experiences and knowledge, so here in The Astral Pulse you'll find experienced Astral Projectors (and Lucid Dreamers) to whom you can ask your questions, like you're doing in this Topic; in those Books you'll learn that you already have in You what's needed to succeed, and as already mentioned in Letitia's Book you'll find many Tips of things you'll need to sort in order to be able to have Frequent Lucid Dreams and Astral Projections, be sure to read as many of those books in that Topic as you can).

My best regards.