If this is not the appropriate place for this I apologize beforehand. Well, I been doing some research on this for a while, and I'm kind of curious how it would work with two real time projectors. I would love to give it a try, if any 1 is down 2 do it lol. I don't know how it would work, if any one has ever done this, let me know. First off how would you meet up in the astral realm? I am also very interested in meeting other projectors in the astral. It has only been my self, and some other spirits. I have also meet a monk who helped me stay out of body for a long time.
AND I'M A MALE BY THE WAY...
This is just some advice. You should say which gender you are and to which you are appealing. If it doesn't matter to you, that's great and shows you have a much better and open mind than I do because I am still only open to the idea of sex with the opposite sex in any realm, space, time, dimension, universe, or combination thereof.
I only say this because my view may have cost me a great opportunity a few years ago. My view of astral sex was doing the nasty as it is here in the physical. I encountered a large group of glowing energies that would merge and glow brighter than the sun.
When I asked one of them what they were doing, the energy took the form of a beautiful woman and told me they were engaging in astral sex. She asked me if I wanted to join and I said sure and she took my hand. Just that touch was great. As we neared the larger group I noticed that men were holding hands with men and I flipped out.
Not because I cared about the personal choices others make but it wasn't for me and I felt like I was being tricked. I backed out and I have always regretted it since.
I see it more now as just a merging of energy but my current mindset will probably not change enough any time soon.
Well....
:lol:
I don't think we've ever had a proposition like this before.
I have never 'knowingly' done it with another projector... but it was amazingly realistic. Beyond just a physical description... yet very physical in the same token.
I asked if she was one of those people that used the astral for sex and she nodded.. I had to tell her we were in the 'astral' and then she jumped on me. Interestingness ensued. :lol:
Problem is I spent the next 4 months or so pursuing it 2 to 3 times a week. It was that good. :-)
Guys, to be honest I've never hear of anybody actually having astral sex, involving two real projectors. Usually, people describe astral sex as lucid dream sex - when you have sex with your brain :) Is this really possible to have a joined projection? Everybody says so confidently that it is, but is your claim based on your own experience, or just what somebody else has said? Is there a person on here who actually met a real person in their AP and later that person confirmed it?
I'm an experienced projector, I've had literally hundreds of OOBE's since I was 6. I often have OOBE's without even trying or doing anything - they happen when I go to sleep. But, I still haven't had any proof that OOBE is anything but another form of remote viewing / dream that allows you to perceive things from this world with high accuracy.
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 21, 2013, 20:09:29
Well....
:lol:
I don't think we've ever had a proposition like this before.
I have never 'knowingly' done it with another projector... but it was amazingly realistic. Beyond just a physical description... yet very physical in the same token.
I asked if she was one of those people that used the astral for sex and she nodded.. I had to tell her we were in the 'astral' and then she jumped on me. Interestingness ensued. :lol:
Problem is I spent the next 4 months or so pursuing it 2 to 3 times a week. It was that good. :-)
Beedeekin is all bad. :evil:
Did you engage in the interestingness as you would have in the physical? If so, I hope you used some white light energy trojan shields for protection. :-D
Seriously though, how did you view it? Physically the same or more "spiritual"?
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 21, 2013, 20:09:29
Well....
:lol:
I don't think we've ever had a proposition like this before.
I have never 'knowingly' done it with another projector... but it was amazingly realistic. Beyond just a physical description... yet very physical in the same token.
I asked if she was one of those people that used the astral for sex and she nodded.. I had to tell her we were in the 'astral' and then she jumped on me. Interestingness ensued. :lol:
Problem is I spent the next 4 months or so pursuing it 2 to 3 times a week. It was that good. :-)
How did you pursue it? Right now I'm doing kundalani meditation, I have been having an increasing amount of exp though. Last time I into someone, it was a pale lady going inside my house. I then floated out my door saying to myself please be a hot chick lol, and it was. I tried to go out my window before hand 2 greet her, but something was stopping me from doing it. The moon was full that night, and the moment was right lol. when she walked to my hall way, she said im lost, and she appeared drunk. I was like excrement awe well.
Quote from: embrace on February 21, 2013, 20:15:06
Guys, to be honest I've never hear of anybody actually having astral sex, involving two real projectors. Usually, people describe astral sex as lucid dream sex - when you have sex with your brain :) Is this really possible to have a joined projection? Everybody says so confidently that it is, but is your claim based on your own experience, or just what somebody else has said? Is there a person on here who actually met a real person in their AP and later that person confirmed it?
I'm an experienced projector, I've had literally hundreds of OOBE's since I was 6. I often have OOBE's without even trying or doing anything - they happen when I go to sleep. But, I still haven't had any proof that OOBE is anything but another form of remote viewing / dream that allows you to perceive things from this world with high accuracy.
I've never met anybody in any circumstance that I felt they still had a physical body elsewhere. The energies I was referring to did not even seem human though they projected that image to me.
I would never say that I did something if I didn't experience it in the astral. I've probably had close to a thousand OOBE's and you may very well be more "advanced" than me as far as what is capable and what you have learned but one thing I know is that my experiences are real though the beings may not always be.
Very physical actually. So much so.. I thought I was accidentally having my way with my girlfriend in her sleep. I brought myself out of it and realised I was on my sofa alone... I swiftly reentered.... in more ways than one.
But it also had another level that may have been spiritual or a massive rush of endorphins... I can't decide. It took on a reality that was so engrained that I still sometimes think I had a real 'affair'. Very weird.
Not long after I stopped doing it... I had a 'normal' yet vivid dream. In the dream Kathryn was very odd with me and being very nasty... I kept chasing after her, worried that she had really fallen out with me. I caught up with her in a large warehouse that had cinema seating. She was standing on the stage. She said "you want to know what's bothering me?" and using a TV remote turned on the screen whereupon it had secretly filmed footage of me and this other 'gypsy' girl making out. haha
I told Kath all about the AS just so I could tell her the dream. It actually made her giggle.. she said that even in my dreams she would catch me out. :lol:
Quote from: its_all_bad on February 21, 2013, 20:03:56
This is just some advice. You should say which gender you are and to which you are appealing. If it doesn't matter to you, that's great and shows you have a much better and open mind than I do because I am still only open to the idea of sex with the opposite sex in any realm, space, time, dimension, universe, or combination thereof.
I only say this because my view may have cost me a great opportunity a few years ago. My view of astral sex was doing the nasty as it is here in the physical. I encountered a large group of glowing energies that would merge and glow brighter than the sun.
When I asked one of them what they were doing, the energy took the form of a beautiful woman and told me they were engaging in astral sex. She asked me if I wanted to join and I said sure and she took my hand. Just that touch was great. As we neared the larger group I noticed that men were holding hands with men and I flipped out.
Not because I cared about the personal choices others make but it wasn't for me and I felt like I was being tricked. I backed out and I have always regretted it since.
I see it more now as just a merging of energy but my current mindset will probably not change enough any time soon.
Did it feel like static? Cause once I projected, and I found my self in an orchard. There are orchards all around my house, that's why I'm so scared to go outside. While I was in the orchard there was this person walking. when I seen her i sent some energy towards her. It literally shocked me, and I was like ok. Then she came running at me, after that it ended.
So are you male or female?
I'm not obliging in any way... just wondered. :lol:
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 21, 2013, 20:32:08
So are you male or female?
I'm not obliging in any way... just wondered. :lol:
Male lol. I just edited the post, stating my gender. Sorry about not specifying that earlier.
I have yet to be able to a.p. my self , but it covered in Llewellyn"s a.p. book ( isbn # 0-87542-183 ) . In the book there is melding , 2 people joining astral bodies , and sex with one person in there astral body with some one in there phy. body . Robert Monroe avoied sex at first , being that he was marred , but later hod no problem with it , as written in his books . It has been discussed on this forum many times , you can do a search . desert rat
p.s. I am a male , there is a you tube video , its this cute tatooed lady stating some thing like have astral sex with me . I am sure she is selling a a.p. method .
Quote from: desert-rat on February 21, 2013, 20:37:14
I have yet to be able to a.p. my self , but it covered in Llewellyn"s a.p. book ( isbn # 0-87542-183 ) . In the book there is melding , 2 people joining astral bodies , and sex with one person in there astral body with some one in there phy. body . Robert Monroe avoied sex at first , being that he was marred , but later hod no problem with it , as written in his books . It has been discussed on this forum many times , you can do a search . desert rat
thanks 4 the info. where at does robert monroe talk about it? i would love 2 read those chapters. I have the books, i just don't like reading 2 much lol.
Quote from: darksidessj25 on February 21, 2013, 20:29:24
Did it feel like static? Cause once I projected, and I found my self in an orchard. There are orchards all around my house, that's why I'm so scared to go outside. While I was in the orchard there was this person walking. when I seen her i sent some energy towards her. It literally shocked me, and I was like ok. Then she came running at me, after that it ended.
Don't forget that I only held the beings hand. It was more of an emotional feeling of unconditional acceptance and trust. In hindsight, this was overwhelming and I may have felt like i did not deserve this trust. I have a hard time describing my physical sensations but it was a definite tingle.
We are our own worst judge.
Quote from: its_all_bad on February 21, 2013, 20:40:29
Don't forget that I only held the beings hand. It was more of an emotional feeling of unconditional acceptance and trust. In hindsight, this was overwhelming and I may have felt like i did not deserve this trust. I have a hard time describing my physical sensations but it was a definite tingle.
We are our own worst judge.
Thank you, now I know what it will feel like lol. Hopefully I my exp. wont end quickly. I hate that. it's always because of fear of the unknown.
Oh I get it... it's not that you want to just have sex in the astral. You want to have Astral Sex.
What confuses me... and has done for years... is the 'astral' bit of 'astral projection'.
I seem to be devoid of any experience I would term 'astral'... like... lotus guruness or angelic starriness or angelic spirituality.
I must be either retarded or hang about in the wrong places.
I simply can't relate to the term 'astral'.
Just thought I would throw that in there.
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 21, 2013, 20:32:08
So are you male or female?
I'm not obliging in any way... just wondered. :lol:
:-o :-oMaybe you shouldn't ask? Cause I just read of an encounter you had on another thread.... :-D
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 21, 2013, 20:46:07
Oh I get it... it's not that you want to just have sex in the astral. You want to have Astral Sex.
What confuses me... and has done for years... is the 'astral' bit of 'astral projection'.
I seem to be devoid of any experience I would term 'astral'... like... lotus guruness or angelic starriness or angelic spirituality.
I must be either retarded or hang about in the wrong places.
I simply can't relate to the term 'astral'.
Just thought I would throw that in there.
it confuses me 2 lol.
Quote from: darksidessj25 on February 21, 2013, 20:43:10
Thank you, now I know what it will feel like lol. Hopefully I my exp. wont end quickly. I hate that. it's always because of fear of the unknown.
I had that problem in the physical in my younger days.lol :-D
I don't identify with anything astral except for conversation or posting.
On Robert Monroe's books , its been many years since I have read them . He did adress astral sex a little . On the Llewellyn book some is written in ch 7 . As I stated in another post there are many posts allready hear on astral sex . This is not the tatooed lady , but interesting to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUC66cQju-k Erin Pavlina has also adressed it . http://www.erinpavlina.com/ I think its still on one or more of her blogs . desert rat
p.s. http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2012/03/astral-sex-the-ecstasy-of-out-of-body-pleasure/
p.p.s. On a side note , it is a common belief that we all go out of body during sleep , but dont remember , or as a dream, many guys wake up with an errection , I think this is the body reacting to some form of astral sex .
Quote from: desert-rat on February 21, 2013, 21:06:54
On Robert Monroe's books , its been many years since I have read them . He did adress astral sex a little . On the Llewellyn book some is written in ch 7 . As I stated in another post there are many posts allready hear on astral sex . This is not the tatooed lady , but interesting to watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUC66cQju-k Erin Pavlina has also adressed it . http://www.erinpavlina.com/ I think its still on one or more of her blogs . desert rat
p.s. http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2012/03/astral-sex-the-ecstasy-of-out-of-body-pleasure/
p.p.s. On a side note , it is a common belief that we all go out of body during sleep , but dont remember , or as a dream, many guys wake up with an errection , I think this is the body reacting to some form of astral sex .
thanks
One of many posts on this forum on astral sex http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/astral_sex-t1431.0.html Two of many links from the web http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Truth-About-Astral-Sex&id=6922599 http://www.llewellyn.com/encyclopedia/term/astral+sex I heard some where that the late actress Mae West would invite ghosts to have sex with her , if true this could be thought of astral sex . desert rat
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 21, 2013, 20:46:07
Oh I get it... it's not that you want to just have sex in the astral. You want to have Astral Sex.
What confuses me... and has done for years... is the 'astral' bit of 'astral projection'.
I seem to be devoid of any experience I would term 'astral'... like... lotus guruness or angelic starriness or angelic spirituality.
I must be either retarded or hang about in the wrong places.
I simply can't relate to the term 'astral'.
Just thought I would throw that in there.
Man, I have never once (that I would remember) been in an astral like realm. I always am in the RTZ. I am always in my room and then my neighborhood... etc. The only place I have been that wasn't erm... I don't know how to put this... in the RTZ? Was the moon. It was a whole different ballgame up there. :lol: Fun place though!
Quote from: its_all_bad on February 21, 2013, 20:46:21
:-o :-oMaybe you shouldn't ask? Cause I just read of an encounter you had on another thread.... :-D
Oh yeah. I forgot!! HAHA
Quote from: AstralCody on February 22, 2013, 14:16:46
Man, I have never once (that I would remember) been in an astral like realm. I always am in the RTZ. I am always in my room and then my neighborhood... etc. The only place I have been that wasn't erm... I don't know how to put this... in the RTZ? Was the moon. It was a whole different ballgame up there. :lol: Fun place though!
Yeah... I will add that maybe 'the astral how it is usually portrayed or commonly written about'... because it's evident that the nonphysical environment is 'the Astral'.
I will also add that I have subconsciously dreamed about glitzy starry fractal-like worlds... also I have experienced this type of thing through DMT and Salvia Divinorum.
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 22, 2013, 14:28:42
Oh yeah. I forgot!! HAHA
Yeah... I will add that maybe 'the astral how it is usually portrayed or commonly written about'... because it's evident that the nonphysical environment is 'the Astral'.
I will also add that I have subconsciously dreamed about glitzy starry fractal-like worlds... also I have experienced this type of thing through DMT and Salvia Divinorum.
Can you please explain what a fractal is to me? I have looked it up but the definition or at least how I understood it, doesn't square with how I see it used. Not by you but in MBTOE as well.
I'm a bit dense at times and you have a good way of making sense of certain things for me (I would call you a genius again but for reasons that I don't understand, you successfully convinced me otherwise). :-D
I was talking about a fractal pretty pattern there like this type of thing...
(http://demortalz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/fractal-art56.jpg)
A process fractal is an ever increasing or decreasing pattern.
A simple way of saying it is to look at a mountain... then get closer to one of it's peeks and it looks like a smaller version... move closer to a rock and the moss will take on the appearance of a forest and look like a tiny version of the mountain it is part of.
The evolution of PMR life forms is a fractal process of the evolution of consciousness.. as in it replicates the same sort of scenario and meaning. This can be also put to how we have ended up designing digital technology... the internet and simulations in gaming is a top down fractal of consciousness.
Ever replicating patterns.
I won't spoil it too much for you because Tom explains it in minute detail throughout the books and I have my tea waiting for me. :lol:
Lmao :-D