Apparently Xanth doesn't want me here, who else agrees? You want me to leave??

[Chaos Mage]

This is the post that I found in my inbox upon my arrival...

Chaos,

Seriously, when are you going to give this a break?  You do realize that nobody pays any attention to you or your posts...
The only attention you've got is from a spammer looking to sell their product.

Most people (including the moderators) pretty much stay away from your posts like the plague.

I'd like for you to take a step back from your posting and get a fresh perspective.  Your posts help nobody... and probably most importantly, they don't even help yourself. 

I mean this deeply and with Love... you need to pursue a hobby away from everything metaphysical.  You're doing yourself no good being here.

Sorry...

~Ryan (Xanth)


Is that true?  Cuz, I look at my post things, and they still get replies, some of them even have over a hundred views.  Honestly, I don't get it.  If you want me to go, and leave the Astral Pulse forever, then post your vote in clear terms, "Yes, Leave" or "No, Stay".

[Volgerle]

I'd say neither stay nor leave to you because it's only your decision alone. Up to you and no one else unless you break some rules and the moderators will be forced to throw you out.
I do not think he meant or threatened to ban you - and I also see no reason for this although I only occasionally read your started threads (and then only by skimming some parts) but it does not seem to contain any hurting or spiteful stuff or hate speech or whatever unallowed content.

But why are you making out of this such an ego-thing now with bringing this out in the open? Couldn't you just have answered Xanth with another pm instead of here as it is a personal message? Maybe it was just his personal advice and opinion given to you by Xanth and maybe you two should sort this out now (via pms)?

Just my 2 cents, friends, and please don't take everything being said here too much to heart.

[Greytraveller]

Hello Chaos Mage
Personally I find you a very interesting person. Your posts are usually well thought out and competently written. I find many of your ideas creative and even unique and when discussing magick those are both positive aspects. So you obviously have some knowledge of practical magick and dreams.  One drawback is that some of your posts are long and sometimes tend to ramble. That can make your ideas hard to follow or understand. That, however, is a minor drawback as nobody can discuss complex ideas (especially about magick) in only a few sentences or a couple paragraphs.
So obviously I would greatly prefer to see you stay.
One of my 'projects' for 2013 is a renewed interest (and hopefully participation) in magick. So hopefully I will be responding to more of your posts, especially in the Magick forum here. And I have been reading (at least perusing) most of your recent posts but have just not responded to many.

Regards 
Grey

[M4RT1N]

I don't understand why xanth said "You do realize that nobody pays any attention to you or your posts"
"Your posts help nobody"

when some of chaos mages's post's get over 3000 views  

if 3000 people look at it, some of them must've read it.

[Chaos Mage]

Hello.
I am feeling bad for why I posted about what Xanth said.
He seems to have a grudge against me, that's what I can figure.
If you want me to stay, I'll stay.
I try to help people with what I put, even if it isn't one hundred percent accurate.  There is no one singular way to do anything in life, and I try to offer alternatives.
Perhaps Xanth is worried that I don't take Astral Projection seriously?  Well I do, but in my state and shape, it's hard to even phantasy much less have a full on Astral Projection.  I have enemies, I guess I construed Xanth as being one of them.

I sure don't want to go away.  This AP boards has been an outlet for me, plus, I do read other people's posts.  Not all of them, the ones I read, I usually respond too.  I did make an ego centric thing about it, because I feel wronged and cheated.  I have been warned that I post too much, with no effect, yet I don't feel that is the case.

Perhaps they could find reason to ban me with the amount of nicks that I've had on here over the years?  That would be, as I can see, the only reason.  I've gone from Perversion Of Evil to Chaos Mage, and everything in between.  It was not out of disrespect for the forum rules, only out of a blindness that lead to the creation of many nicks.  I did not know that I could only have one nick.  If you want to ban me, then that's fine, I'll just focus on Facebook, and that will be that.

[Xanth]

Chaos Mage,
Just moving this where it's a bit more applicable, Astral Chat. 
Besides the point that you posted a private PM to you, an action very frowned upon here, I'll let that slide.

First, I stand by every word of that PM.  Secondly, at no point during that post did I ever say I wanted you gone.  I wanted to give you a chance to reflect on the fact that some of the only people who respond to his posts are spammers.  That in itself is rather telling.  I should know, because I've cleaned up multiple threads of his over the past month alone due to spammers gravitating towards them.  Honestly dude, look up the last 20 threads you've started... tell me if you see a pattern in them.

Greytravellers observations are kind of dead on... I know I'm not the only person who has made the same observations.

One drawback is that some of your posts are long and sometimes tend to ramble. That can make your ideas hard to follow or understand. That, however, is a minor drawback as nobody can discuss complex ideas (especially about magick) in only a few sentences or a couple paragraphs.

This is why hardly anyone pays any attention to you. 

If this thread helps in any way it's to get you to give yourself a second thought about your presence here and what you post.
And to perhaps open the dialog a little better between you and the community, because as I said, there aren't many here who pay attention to you here. 
And I'll point out that getting views on a post is meaningless if nobody posts on them... the end result is that your post ends up falling to the back end of the forum to be lost and forgotten forever.

[Chaos Mage]

I feel regret for taking your PM and putting it on the boards... sorry Xanth, I knew it was the wrong thing, it was out of a vehemont belief that I did that.

Also, I do suppose that I'll just take a break from the AP.  After writing and going on and doing so much stuff with words, I've actually written myself into a dead zone.  My writing is nothing like it was ten years ago, and in the meantime, I've embarassed myself on multiple boards and communities with long tyraides and word pie of sub par value.

I'm in a clear headed, well rested, fully dreamed up state of mind today, not like yesterday where it was like I was looking through eyes made of sand.  Certainly, I have more to say, however, I will leave it until this spring...  I will, however, keep up on the boards as best as I can, as, AP is my homepage.  If I change it, then I'll prolly just leave you guys/girls alone until spring.

I've said this before, and it's true of everyone at varying rates and times...  I feel like I am dying, everyday, it's the same pattern, with no energy or ability to move my mind like I used to.  They are killing me with neuroleptic tranquilizers, my brain is paralyzed and it's starting to effect my heart and kidneys.  I guess that's what they do to psychics in this country!  As it is, I don't have a spark of psychic power, and I haven't seen 'the white lights' for a good six months.  I guess because of my desperation, I post, and try to fit everything into one post.

I'm sorry that I dumped on you Xanth.  I am attacked every day, and I felt it was just to attack back in that manner.

[Chaos Mage]

Ok, I've made up my mind.  I'm leaving the Internet until I get a new computer and a decent, high speed connection.

That doesn't mean that I will stop my practices.  If anything, I will go full boar into my magick craft, worship, and so forth.  I also plan on stopping smoking (cigarettes) and perhaps quit drinking as well.  As for weed, I have religious experiences with it, and it certainly is not the 'cause' of mental illness. 

I would like to thank Xanth for opening my eyes to the fact that no matter how hard I try, it always ends in failure.  My words, their structure, the way that they are presented, it wasn't always like this.  I guess over twelve years, I've typed out my brains, and now it's just sputtering out the back end.  I will return, but it might not be for upwards of a year.  Thanks everyone for whatever you said that was good, and what was bad, perhaps it was justified.

Before I go, I would like to address these issues briefly.
1.Levitation/Regeneration
2.Phantasy and Dreams
3.Spirits of the Wood, Water, and Sky

Firstly, levitation and regeneration are linked.  That's how God made it.  If you keep trying to lift your body, one day, all your nerves, spine, organs, and everything, it will all gain the ethereal charge that it needs and the connectivity to YOUR BRAIN, and, you will lift off, and gain perfect self control as an ethereal being within the 'kinetic/physical intensity' or dimension.  I have levitated once before, a story which anyone who knows me would know I have already told.  After that, I was a normal child pretending to fly like a bird, flapping my arms with feathers stuck in the sweater.  It isn't easy to be magickal in a world that vehemontly denies magick, God, the spirit, I guess that's why I keep coming here, you are the closest to kin that I have.

Secondly, phantasy and dreams....  there is so much MORE to say concerning this subject, either as phantasy alone or as phantasy and dreams combined.  Basically, phantasy is not a corporeal reality, yet, it is emotional, visual, and energetic.  You can have the same phantasy scenes running over and over, or, you can constantly change it up.  You could go three years with one primary character, then drop him and use phantasy in a way more geared towards creative enterprise.  Phantasy isn't set in stone, and the characters (host, avatar) that you use are what you want them to be.  It's not like in dreams where you are recieving prophetic glimpses and coded signals that reveal your impending day state.  Phantasy has some of those qualities.  Yet, phantasy can lead to deluded thinking IF you do not pay attention to your own phantasy structure.  Phantasy is useful, a world of vision and emotion, also, pending your success in meditation, the action of phantasy can lead to astral travel or radical alteration to your reality.  Meditation is the key to it, although, phantasy at the level of successful meditation will act like sorcery, and manifest until you snap out of the trance.

And lastly, as for the spirits of the Wood, Water, and Sky, I'm not really sure about this, but it seems like I keep hearing them calling out to me.  Now of course, we have 'animals' that live in the forests, and fish in the lakes and ponds, and clouds and birds in the sky.  There is much danger in the Wood, yet the right attitude and veneration of the animals and spirits that live there will provide a safe journey.  We are losing our forests due to hunger pains and the greed of the money world.  Isn't there any way that we can all pitch in and buy some farm land, then sanctify and protect it and rebuild a forest land there?  They are destroying our home!  That, in itself, is part of why I am 'mentally ill', the fact that they are destroying everything that belongs here and putting up whoredom and technoverse bothers me so much that I just lay there, vibrating with a scathing, seething hatred of humanity and their actions and stupidity against Nature.

So that's it.  That sums up what I was going to post about.  Now, I go my way, to play video games, raise energy, worship, and use my knowledge of the Craft and Jesus Christ combined to have some kind of effect greater than something bogus. 

Thank you all for tolerating me all these years.  When next we meet, I hope to be cleaned up and ready for a real astral projection.

Good bye.
Chad

[Dreamshards]

....What just happened? 

[Bedeekin]

The above ^

[M4RT1N]

The above ^

He is leaving the Internet until he gets a new computer and a decent, high speed connection.

[Xanth]

Chaos Mage,

I hope you find what you're looking for.
Honestly, whatever that is... I really don't think you'll find it here, or any online forum for that matter.

Goodluck bud. 

[AJDIN]

Is this Gossip Girl or Astral forums?


Because i need to get some popcorn ready if it's the 1st one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But in all honesty... you shouldn't exile someone for being different, yes his posts are long and crazy but who cares! To someone who skims over it or even reads it (I do alot) they might grab some info that will help them with something related or completely unrelated ... i personally love his post and love him too bits also

Don't listen to Xanth, he has no right to force his thoughts on where and when you will benefit in YOUR life

CHAD, my main MAN - As Ice Cube would say - Do your thang man!

[M4RT1N]

Is this Gossip Girl or Astral forums?


Because i need to get some popcorn ready if it's the 1st one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But in all honesty... you shouldn't exile someone for being different, yes his posts are long and crazy but who cares! To someone who skims over it or even reads it (I do alot) they might grab some info that will help them with something related or completely unrelated ... i personally love his post and love him too bits also

Chaos Mage, my main MAN - As Ice Cube would say - Do your thang man!

no its not the first one, there was one with todd lol now he's gone 

[Quasartic]

I'm new but I really wanted to ask you all about your experiences of your "Nether realm " or whatever its called you seem very very interesting . Is there any other way to contact you ?

[AJDIN]

^ Me too! I would love your facebook so we can chat on there! Inbox me it?

[M4RT1N]

"I'm new but I really wanted to ask you all about your experiences of your "Nether realm " or whatever its called you seem very very interesting . Is there any other way to contact you ?"

PM him

go to "MY MESSAGES" then "New Message"

"^ Me too! I would love your facebook so we can chat on there! Inbox me it?"

who exactly are you talking about ?


(if i press Insert Quote then it inserts everything i write into a blue box )

[Bedeekin]

Is this Gossip Girl or Astral forums?

Where are the girls? Where is the Gossip?

Popcorn is a cinema related food.... unless you like eating popcorn when you read your gossip girl magazines.  

no its not the first one, there was one with todd lol now he's gone  

Oh dear....

Look if people want to leave because someone has had a few choice words with them then that's up to them. As far as Chaos Mage goes I think he is just taking a break... not leaving. He won't be able to resist coming on here and checking what's going on or his PM box. In actually reality... he hasn't 'gone' anywhere. He is still where he has always been. I woudn't worry... he has magic and stuff to look after him has he not.

This usually happens on forums.

Someone will be a nuisance or in Chaos Mage's case will only seem to interact by posting their thoughts that have very little to do with the subject matter and are more personal Blogs than forum posts. No one will particularly respond to them or no one will be really that interested. The member might even start posting drunken rants to other members... *cough*

Then when this is brought up and the member leaves in a flourish of goodbyes and protracted 'I'm going then' type posts... suddenly... other members suddenly squirm out of the woodwork claiming undying support.

This happens so many times... there should be a word invented for it.

Chaos Mage is still registered. So he hasn't gone.

I'm new but I really wanted to ask you all about your experiences of your "Nether realm " or whatever its called you seem very very interesting . Is there any other way to contact you ?

PM him this... why not PM him?

^ Me too! I would love your facebook so we can chat on there! Inbox me it?

Again... PM him.

He's apparently left... so who are you talking to?

[AJDIN]

@Beedekin

Where are the girls? Where is the Gossip?

Popcorn is a cinema related food.... unless you like eating popcorn when you read your gossip girl magazines.  cool

Obviously you didn't get my joke ! Gossip Girl is notorious for drama... drama... this thread.. get it? Ahh it'll come to you soon!!



Never heard of it?

Oh dear....

Look if people want to leave because someone has had a few choice words with them then that's up to them. As far as Chaos Mage goes I think he is just taking a break... not leaving. He won't be able to resist coming on here and checking what's going on or his PM box. In actually reality... he hasn't 'gone' anywhere. He is still where he has always been. I woudn't worry... he has magic and stuff to look after him has he not.

This usually happens on forums.

Someone will be a nuisance or in Chaos Mage's case will only seem to interact by posting their thoughts that have very little to do with the subject matter and are more personal Blogs than forum posts. No one will particularly respond to them or no one will be really that interested. The member might even start posting drunken rants to other members... *cough*

Then when this is brought up and the member leaves in a flourish of goodbyes and protracted 'I'm going then' type posts... suddenly... other members suddenly squirm out of the woodwork claiming undying support.

This happens so many times... there should be a word invented for it.

Chaos Mage is still registered. So he hasn't gone.

He was talking about Chad in Gossip Girl, you would know this if you got my joke!  

And what are you talking about? Usually happens on forums? It does not "usually" happen! If you see it as a nuisance then don't read it - isn't that simple? I benefit from his posts like i said so stop assuming everyone thinks the same way you do

Again... PM him.

He's apparently left... so who are you talking to?

I'm 99.9999999% Sure he will log in very very soon just to see what people are saying about him

Whats with the attacks anyway?



If you think about it... Xanth must have really had a control freak spell for him to be that annoyed at one thread in X amounts of threads in surrounding it to personally send him a disrespectful P-M .. like come on Xanth why is that necessary? How could you possibly think any good will come from that? Especially knowing what Chad is like and the evidence speaks for itself what Xanth actions caused (this thread)

This forum shouldn't be about the moderators pushing there views on how the forum should look like - the community should make the forum - he was doing no harm, wasn't abusing anyone what so ever! But it seems that his posts was distorting the perception of what Xanth wanted the Astral forums to be like


Am i the only one viewing it in this light ?



Actually thank you VERY much to everyone contributing to this conversation - you all gave me the most wonderful idea!

[Bedeekin]

Oh my word.... it's worse than a magazine. A cultural reference that I am glad I didn't get. I don't watch stuff like that... sorry. But thank you for erm... illuminating me in such a BIG way.    

i brought it up because I am part of the forum?

And what are you talking about? Usually happens on forums? It does not "usually" happen! If you see it as a nuisance then don't read it - isn't that simple? I benefit from his posts like i said so stop assuming everyone thinks the same way you do

well... I am NOT going to paste up a random PM that Chaos Mage sent me that was beyond... scary and sad. I didn't have to ignore a PM he personally sent me did I? You don't know half of it. I wouldn't DREAM of posting that PM. I reported it to a Moderator... and said I didn't wish to take it further because I could see the boy needed some sort of help with his problems. Xanth has been quite soft and very thoughtful in his approach. If you can't see that then you are just reacting to the situation with a complete lack of insight.

I am not assuming EVERYONE thinks the same. I am assuming the majority think the same... there is a big difference.

I will expect Xanth to defend himself but you have so got the wrong end of the stick. Seriously.

[Made O pHI]

Lol, this forum is ridiculous really. People think they're on the right path but are you really ?
Just because you've been inducing OBEs and APs for 5 years after MANY months of hard work and practice people begin to get big headed and start thinking they know what the truth really is.

If you ask me AP/OBE is just to add more excitement to our lives so we continue to help the higher powers in the world with the real goal on the deepest level, and that's to create a world where no one has to suffer because everyone is united. If one suffers, we all suffer.

Look at how people, not going to mention names, talk to people on this forum. I don't see much love coming from a certain few who think they're all big and know almost everything just because they have 4+ stars under there forum name. LOL, anyone can post on the forum 1000+ times if they take the time.

Now I'm not trying to bring negativity in, Just trying to bring the truth to light because that's what this forum is for. Is it not ?

And in no way shape or form do I agree with Chaos Mage's posts or in fact the practice of magik. I'd agree with Xanth when he says you might want to take a break from all metaphysical things. The magik has brought more corruption and darkness then love and light, at least this is how your posts come off.

Xanth has even made a rude comment to me except this was on a public post. In no way do I have a grudge against him, I just took my time away from the forums (on my own) and came back, stronger and more tuned into the love and light from The Source. It's nothing to take personally, we are just trying to help.

And for reference, If anyone manipulates the power (magik) that comes from The Source, your not working for the greater good of all people. Your working for yourself and the dark elites. Consciously or unconsciously. I would know because I use to manipulate the law of attraction and use it to bring about a good night for myself, so technically that is magik. It doesn't take a genius to know how to use magik. You just need to know the laws of the universe.

Much love, pHI.
P.S. I'm speaking out of experience, I once use to be big headed too. I've only been doing this for 2 years and it feels like a lifetime and more.

[Xanth]

I will expect Xanth to defend himself but you have so got the wrong end of the stick. Seriously.

What's to defend?

Two people made decisions... decisions they made entirely of their own free will.

Xanth has even made a rude comment to me except this was on a public post. In no way do I have a grudge against him, I just took my time away from the forums (on my own) and came back, stronger and more tuned into the love and light from The Source. It's nothing to take personally, we are just trying to help.

If such is true, I do apologize for how I came across.  It's never my intention to hurt someone else.  I do, however, screw up from time to time just like everyone else, I am only human after all.

As I said before, people need to learn to read posts with either a neutral or positive tone.  This is a lesson I learned the hard way over many years.  I also learned the above, that people make their own choices... and I am no responsible for the choices others make.  Two very hard earned lessons.