It's all very simple: fear and hate.
Stop being afraid, and there is nobody to hate and nobody you have to kill to "protect yourself" from. Without fear there is no enemy. Others may still choose to be your enemy, but they will have no power over you if you do not allow fear to convince you to be their enemy as well. At worst they can kill your physical body or inflict some kind of hardship on you. "Hardship" is nothing but a lesson that we fail to recognize the value and nature of at the time we experience it. Death is nothing but the stripping away of all that is not truly who you are. Either way, there is nothing to lose - nothing to fear...except fear itself.
--Soulfire
This has taken it's emotional toll on us all... I did not even expect it to happen to me as well, but it has. I'm not angry, I'm saddened...and afraid... Never before would I have thought people here could be like this. I love this website... so much. Much more than you can possibly fathom. I will not stand idly by while it falls into society's patters. Not a chance.
I said in another post that I would stand in the middle. I will not take sides. Just know that your words hurt me so much more than you can imagine, and they aren't even directed at me.
I can honestly say, right now, it is the first time I have cried in years. All this for a website.
By the way, I appreciate all of the topics trying to avert attention from this situation. I wish I was in the right mind to post on them all, because they are wonderful topics. But I can't even crack a joke right now...
~Squeek
Squeek, I am truly sorry that you are hurt by this. War hurts, no matter what plane of existence it occurs on. The point is, this is a war between good and evil, between demons and angels. You, as an individual, must decide what your destiny will be, but whatever you choose, you must face existence. You must hold your ground. Darkness may swallow light, but light pierces through darkness. So if darkness wants to go ahead and get impaled, it can feel free to swallow light. I posted this because of what I see happening here at this site, and the connection it has with what's happening right now in the rest of the world.
Squeek, what you must do is preserve within you this site and whatever it is you are getting out of it. Within you is some sort of paradise, a place you will probably exist in someday. Nothing lasts forever, except when we die and become eternal spirits. Squeek, when you die, who will post in your name? Nobody can replace you either. You will not be gone, you will not cease to exist. Even hundreds of thousands of years from now, even names like Beethove, Mozart, Bach, Handel, Haydn, DeBussy, etc. will all be forgotten, fading away with time. But it does not mean that they cease to exist. This world exists to serve a purpose, and that is why it is a key part of the war. Once the purpose is served, it is destroyed. This is a seemingly harsh reality, but keep in mind that this site is like a really good girlfriend. Once she goes out of your life, you feel like you're never going to meet anyone that special again, but then somewhere down the road, someone even better for you comes along. YOU will always exist. That is God's promise, that we will always exist somehow. Whether you can adapt is the question. Think positive, squeek. You can DO IT!
Souflire, I don't quite understand what you're saying. I wasn't talking about killing people to protect myself. I was talking about the moral conduct we have with each other and the ignorance of mankind in general. It is because of this ignorance that we follow systems and become trapped, going around in circles. Break out of the illusions and live life. You only live once, so make the most of it. This site exists here and now for a reason. When that reason has been completed it will then cease to be. If the reason returns, so will the site. As long as that reason exists, so does this site. This is just the beginning.
I understand the part about fear and hate: That's exactly the problem- "It's all very simple..." That's why people can't understand it. That's why I explained it. Anyway, I need some sleep. Once I get back to college (in a day or two) I'll be able to post a lot more.
Enderwiggen - I never knew you could spew such wisdom... Thank You [:)]
You're starting to sound more like Tom [;)]
Someone once told me the best way to win an argument. He said to me "Treat anger and hostility with kindness". So, basically, if someone just makes you so mad you want to punch them in the face, you simply reply with kindness. It is impossible to reply to your kindness when you are enraged. Trust me, it works :)
~Squeek
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Originally posted by EnderWiggin
Souflire, I don't quite understand what you're saying. I wasn't talking about killing people to protect myself. I was talking about the moral conduct we have with each other and the ignorance of mankind in general. It is because of this ignorance that we follow systems and become trapped, going around in circles. Break out of the illusions and live life. You only live once, so make the most of it. This site exists here and now for a reason. When that reason has been completed it will then cease to be. If the reason returns, so will the site. As long as that reason exists, so does this site. This is just the beginning.
I was talking more about the deeper nature of "the war" you mentioned. On many levels, not just here in AP. Yes from a certain point of view I agree that a war of sorts exists, but it doesn't have to. And nobody will ever "win" by fighting or attacking "the enemy", verbally or otherwise. I was not critiquing your statement in any way - just trying to point out that as more and more people become willing to stop being afraid, that "the war" will simply cease to exist.
"What would happen if they threw a war and nobody came?" [:)]
--Soulfire
Can anyone clue me in more on this 'war'? Because I haven't noticed it.
Also linux is better than windows or mac :P
not that I run it.. I just wish I was l33t enough too :|
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Even hundreds of thousands of years from now, even names like Beethove, Mozart, Bach, Handel, Haydn, DeBussy, etc. will all be forgotten, fading away with time. But it does not mean that they cease to exist. This world exists to serve a purpose, and that is why it is a key part of the war.
This war we as humans cannot hope to win. Darkness abounds and it grows stronger every day. This physical world is a mirror of the higher realms and it is all too apparent that things are escalating to a boil. What can we do? How can we fight? We try to be good people but we always slip up somewhere. We yell at our friends or cuss when someone makes a mistake and this just churns the wheels of hate once more. We are not strong enough to win the war in the phsyical reality and we are not strong enough to even begin to think about conquering demons.
Mankind needs a Saviour. Needs a rope to pull us up when we slip. Needs a reason to fight on when we feel the darkness coming. All have tried in there own way to fight the good fight but it is time for the Hero.
Next time you are projecting just try to imagine this scene. The great forces of evil are massing in heaven to overcome the God of Love. The lines are drawn and the time of compromise is over. The great Dragon rises up as the first created being and the mightiest Angel in all of Heaven. Who could possibly defeat this foe? This is where the Hero comes in. That Hero is Jesus the Christ and also known as the Archangel Michael. The only One above the Dragon. with a great blast the trumpet sounds and battle is joined. The sword of the Archangel is pulsating with the power of pure perfection and the Dragon is cast down.
7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
THE DRAGON TAKES RESIDENCE IN THE EARTH, HIS TIME TO RULE IS NOW. BUT THE TIME IS COMING WHEN THE ARCHANGEL MICHAEL WILL COME AND DEFEAT THE DRAGON. CAST YOUR LOT WITH THE HERO AND FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT.KEEP ON PRAYING FOR THE RETURN OF THE HERO AND SAVIOUR OF MANKIND. HAVE FAITH AND SPREAD THE LOVE IN YOUR HEARTS THE BEST WAY YOU CAN. THAT IS THE ONLY WEAPON WE HAVE NOW. HOPE, FAITH, AND LOVE.
,,,.n
Presidential Politics and spiritual wars reminds me of the Jehovah Witnesses who come to your door and forget the bottle of wine and loaf of bread. More so, like the preachers running around saying look what I did over here and look what I have done over there when all they are doing is stuffing their pockets with the money of silly women laden with sin and guilt. They claim: Spiritual food for the poor sinners. Spreading the good news of gods kingdom. I am an Indian. Religious leaders drug all the adults off to sanitariums because of delusional religious beliefs and gave them electro-shock treatments until they bowed down to their man god or died? Religious leaders say god said this, and god said that, but us Indians can not hear no voices. In my culture you bring a bottle of wine and some fry bread. Works every time and some of us real poor Indians will even come and pick up that kind of spiritual food. Your Political parties are just like these preachers. They are tricksters twisting their words. All are rich men running for one reason only "Power." I am afraid it is not civil liberties and justice for all and God is not talking to your minister this week either. They are all rich on a never ending con game that you did not have a chance at winning because of self condemnation.
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EnderWiggin,
I don't know what prompted your post, but....I like the subject of spiritual warfare. The nature of evil needs to be understood more.
Thank you for such a thought filled piece. The invisible war has been going on for as long as I've been able to perceive it in my life time. I have felt it and know the discouraging and bad feelings that go along with it.
It's existence is partly how I learned about my spirituality. A few things I've learned is that change does occur naturally. This can appear evil but is not necessarily. People make mistakes and are ignorant. This alone can propel evil along it's course fairly well.
Intentional evil (that which is seen as evil in most everyone's view) is the easiest to see.It is well hidden for this reason. It does exist. It takes the cooperation of ignorance to help evil grow. Mistakes made are a cause, but mistakes are replaced by cover-ups which in itself continues to keep evil growing.
The nature of evil is as about as elusive as spirituality. There are different degrees or levels of it. One kind is the mind stealing kind. But then again, someone must offer their mind up to whoever or whatever will take what it can.I see a small scale example of this in the commonly called co-dependency.
So I wonder who or what is evil? There seems to be a cooperate effort in the process of evil.
The other kind of evil are the blatant lies. It amazes me the number of lies. But then again, it takes someone to believe the lies for the lies to continue. People who believe lies are just as dangerous as the liar. This is because many people react accordingly and usually involves a negative effect on the targeted person or group.This is another intentional lie but also involves ignorance.
The most politically popular evil is hatred in the form most people are familar. This is an interesting one because this form of evil is actually misused and warped by persons and groups to bring about political control. This one uses people to the max, plus there is a profit politically.
I can go on but just to say each of the three I've listed is not all the types, but it really is all the same except for the way it's carried out.
Notice there are no courses in the study of this, only the politically correct ones, which really aren't correct either, in universal law (or in God's eyes). Would this be due to design (intention) or ignorance?
Greed, jealousy, and the like are commonly seen causes. Too bad no one seems to notice more causes are from weaknesses including dependency, brain washing,low self esteem,and more.
The popular prejudice ones has turned it into a smoke screen. Why don't people want to look farther at this one?
Even the word hate is being misused and abused.
God hates things, this is important to accept. God's unconditional love is way over played as far as I'm concerned. This is another cover up. The mind of God is JUST, not stupid ( when bad things happen in universal law ). People will find out eventually. In the meantime the same mistakes are being made over and over again.
The fear is about the fear of death or fear of judgment. This one is used polically too.
I'm not writing this as a specific response to something that has happened. What happened, anyway? [:)]
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Presidential Politics and spiritual wars reminds me of the Jehovah Witnesses who come to your door and forget the bottle of wine and loaf of bread. More so, like the preachers running around saying look what I did over here and look what I have done over there when all they are doing is stuffing their pockets with the money of silly women laden with sin and guilt. They claim: Spiritual food for the poor sinners. Spreading the good news of gods kingdom. I am an Indian. Religious leaders drug all the adults off to sanitariums because of delusional religious beliefs and gave them electro-shock treatments until they bowed down to their man god or died? Religious leaders say god said this, and god said that, but us Indians can not hear no voices. In my culture you bring a bottle of wine and some fry bread. Works every time and some of us real poor Indians will even come and pick up that kind of spiritual food. Your Political parties are just like these preachers. They are tricksters twisting their words. All are rich men running for one reason only "Power." I am afraid it is not civil liberties and justice for all and God is not talking to your minister this week either. They are all rich on a never ending con game that you did not have a chance at winning because of self condemnation.
So you're hindu?
rawk
Hinduism is far and away more scientific and less dogmatic than christianity. I know who belongs in the delusional bin, and it isn't the hindus.
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So you're hindu?
rawk
Hinduism is far and away more scientific and less dogmatic than christianity. I know who belongs in the delusional bin, and it isn't the hindus
So we should judge the validity of a religon based on science? Which was founded in alchemy and occult practices?
I thought people here bought into the MATRIX mentality so why is there the trust of the senses?
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Originally posted by wisp
Greed, jealousy, and the like are commonly seen causes. Too bad no one seems to notice more causes are from weaknesses including dependency, brain washing,low self esteem,and more.
The popular prejudice ones has turned it into a smoke screen. Why don't people want to look farther at this one?
Even the word hate is being misused and abused.
God hates things, this is important to accept. God's unconditional love is way over played as far as I'm concerned.
In my opinion, everything you mention ultimately comes as a result of fear:
Dependency comes because we are afraid of relying on ourselves, so we look for something outside ourselves to "fix" us. If this continues long enough, we begin to believe we are dependend on that outside influence for what we feel we need (security, purpose, love, etc.)
Brain washing is similar: People are afraid and want to find something "better" to believe in...again seeking a false sense of security. Instead of looking within they look to the outside. On the part of people who do the brainwashing, they want to control other people. Why? Because they are afraid. In an attempt to compensate for their fear, they seek to control others thinking if they feel enough control and power that they wont have to be afraid anymore. It never works.
Low self esteem is simply fear that I am not good enough.
Greed is simply fear that there is not "enough" for everyone, so I want to grab as much as I can to make sure I always have "enough". It is also often an attempt to distract ourselves from our sense of incompleteness via materialism.
Maybe I am "wrong", but anything negative that I have ever experienced, witnessed, or even imagined seems to have fear as its root. I believe this fear comes from believing the illusion that we are truly seperate from God.
As for God Hating...I don't believe it. When you have love and understanding, it is (in my experience) impossible to hate. Even when you see things that part of you thinks are horrible, you have compassion for all parties involved. Not Pity - compassion. Sometimes if you get off center you might feel anger or hate, but if you look closely and honestly at yourself when that happens, you will see that your love is temporarily absent. At least that has always been my experience.
--Soulfire
Greetings everyone,
I saw that the topics has been deleted in the original thread, so I will post here.
Check out the following link and see the information about fraternitas hermetica http://www.hermetics.org/org%20links.html
and the requirements for one who wish to apply like providing you full name and postal address, etc http://www.fraternitashermetica.org/public/main.php?ref=congregation
That might provide you with the explanation of the recent conflict.
As to regards to formal training there no such thing. The truth is universal and easy to communicate. If one is not able to explain his views to another person and saying this is becouse you have to do the formal training that will speak volumes about they message:)
Please calm down, becouse the certain forces trying to influence us right know in a present moment! Remain in your true self. And let all that you writing and feeling and thinking come from the center of who you are. The center that manifest the God omnipresence. In this way it will be easier to see the thoughts and etc, what is not a part of who you are.
It`s interesting how suddenly Shadowatcher change his mind, and apologies to all!!!
On this note I am formally denounce my Astral Pulse membership.
I might as a member of public read the topics in a guest mode. If this post will be modified or deleted without a substancial reason I will act as nessesary in a way of Love, Light and Spirit.
And I am suggesting to set up an alternative medium for communication for everyone who are agree with Goingslow point of view. I can be contacted via al.eu@hush.com Do not PM me.
If you see this topic edited it`s not me. And if you see any futher topic with my name, please be aware that this is - my last post here.
P.S This is a small gift to one who may need it http://www.alchemicalmage.com/tools/vowBreakSword.htm
With love,
Osiris.
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Originally posted by Allanon
So we should judge the validity of a religon based on science? Which was founded in alchemy and occult practices?
I thought people here bought into the MATRIX mentality so why is there the trust of the senses?
Uh actually, they had said that their people had been thrown into mental institutions for their religion. Correct me if I'm wrong, but mental institutions are for people with irrational and extreme/dangerous beliefs. That describes christianity a lot more than it does hinduism. Emphasis on the irrational part.
Also, don't stereotype this board into one "matrix mentality" group, that's just outright ignorant.
Do you mean the Demonwar when you say Spirits-War? I mean, I've been hearing a lot of people talking about them preparing for the upcoming 'demonwar', or something.
Because demons are 1) not 'evil', and I'm talking about the astral ones here, not the demons from the Bible, 2) Demons have no reason to start a war against us, I mean, what makes us think that we are so important? and 3) If you believe in the 2012-Demon-War-Thingy, why would we know 9 years before it happens about it? That's ridiculous.
This post is not meant offensive in any way.
I think I know why all these 'negs' or whatever you want to call them are around and all the other odd stuff. Demons are always around so they're not worth the mentioning. But I won't share my opinion on this one, because you didn't want them.. 'Opinions prove nothing'. True, but opinions can give you a brighter insight on a subject. Besides, I don't really feel like telling why I think this stuff is happening. And frankly I really couldn't care less if I'm right or wrong. I'll see what happens. If it's bad, we'll have to live with it. If it's good, we'll have to live with it too. There's not really like we can play the big hero or something and stop things from happening, whatever they are. Anyhow, if any war is coming with spirits or demons, I will simply say hi to them and continue my daily life.
Agreed Neyru, I might add...
We have always fought demons, people do it every day. The demons I'm talking about are personal demons though.
Just like I look inside not outside for Jesus and God, I know that any "demons" I might encounter are solely my own.
It's always been my impression that positive and negative energies are always at battle and if we let the negative win, that is our own choice. When it comes to battles with negatives, we always have the choice of engaging and fighting or disengaging and walking away.
To say that the way we treat other people has anything to do with "outside forces" is shirking the reponsibility you have to yourself by not treating other people the way you want to be treated.
Winning the battle starts from within. It starts with acknowledging your failings and accepting the blood of Christ so that the Holy Spirit may be made manifest inside of you. Then the battle will be put on the shoulders of the archangel Michael and you will no longer be a slave to the world system and its "luke warm" ideaologies.
God is a vengeful god. The Bible says so. In the Bible, God actually told a group of people to kill another group of people for being "bad". He told them what weapons to use like the "jaw of an butt" and they did this. He told them to kill the men, women, children, cows, everything, and to not leave one stone upon another. The army didn't lose a single man. Of course, the story ends that somebody took some gold and the army lossed every battle after that until the gold was returned and the man who took the money was killed.
You also have other storys like the one with Job that was over a stupid bet with the "Devil". Yes, God does love but he also is very vengeful. Check out the ten commandments. It says to make no engraven images that is in heaven above, or on the earth, or that is in the water. You will not bow down to them because I am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me... I paraphased it but that is what it says.
God is jealous and vengeful and don't think otherwise because seriously, if he was all loving then there would be no reason for sending people to "hell". Everyone would go to "heaven" because he would give them another chance.
What I know from personal experience is that I am at war within myself, a neverending battle between my perceived notions of good and evil.
But how could we know peace if we've never been in battle?
-eomaia scansoria
I disagree with you here, Follower of the Kuhli. The Bible is not infallable. Only God is. I would like to see the passage where you got this idea, if you don't mind. It could be that you have misinterpreted the passage. Vengeance is one of the seven deadly sins (in a sense). If you are a vengeful person, you are the type that goes around hurting people who have hurt you in the past. You never forgive them. Doesn't sound like God to me. Not his style.
This spirit-war is well underway, but it is also just beginning. It will be a long war. Nature is a good place to seek temporary refuge from battle. Remember that this battle is taking place on all the planes of existence but mostly the mental and spiritual planes. One should know how to fight within these planes to defend themselves. It's all in your imagination.
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Originally posted by Follower of the Khuli
God is a vengeful god. The Bible says so. In the Bible, God actually told a group of people to kill another group of people for being "bad". He told them what weapons to use like the "jaw of an butt" and they did this. He told them to kill the men, women, children, cows, everything, and to not leave one stone upon another. The army didn't lose a single man. Of course, the story ends that somebody took some gold and the army lossed every battle after that until the gold was returned and the man who took the money was killed.
You also have other storys like the one with Job that was over a stupid bet with the "Devil". Yes, God does love but he also is very vengeful. Check out the ten commandments. It says to make no engraven images that is in heaven above, or on the earth, or that is in the water. You will not bow down to them because I am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me... I paraphased it but that is what it says.
God is jealous and vengeful and don't think otherwise because seriously, if he was all loving then there would be no reason for sending people to "hell". Everyone would go to "heaven" because he would give them another chance.
This statement assumes that the Bible is perfectly accurate. If this is indeed a perfectly accurate representation of God, then the only reason to worship him is effectively "Because God will torture and murder me if I do not worship him". I would rather be tortured and murdered than believe God is really like that...
--Soulfire
Hi,
When I allow myself to think along the lines that are listed above (demons, hostile aliens, abductions, evil cults), I begin to feel anxiety and fear creep into my life. I start to worry, "What if this and what if that...". To me, this severely diminishes the quality of my life and makes it harder for me to be who I want to be. It makes it more difficult for me to express unconditional love to others, because I spend a lot of my energy worrying. If you carefully watch the emotions of fear, anxiety, and worry...you will clearly see that they rob you of your energy. Energy is what you need to take appropriate action in any given situation. Regardless of whether you are living a life of peace and harmony, or defending yourself from some legitimate threat, you want MORE energy - not less.
One set of questions I ask myself to judge how I am doing in my day to day life is:
1) How much fear and anxiety am I experiencing in my day to day life?
2) How much love am I expressing in my day to day reality?
3) How much joy, gratitude, and peace am I regularly experiencing?
In my experience and belief, everything negative that people create or experience in this world comes as a direct or indirect result of fear. Some people might argue that fear protects us from danger, but I disagree. It is not fear that protects you, but having the courage and faith in yourself and others to take whatever meaningful action is appropriate to the situation in the now. You do not need to feel "afraid" of fire to know not to stick your bare hand into it.
I am not recommending burying our heads in the sand like a proverbial ostrich, but I do feel it is healthier to be just as open to positive possibilities as we are to caution. It's healthy to have a reasonable degree of caution, but to focus too much attention on caution begins to breed fear.
So what happens if I am totally wrong and what if we really do "need" fear to survive? I have seen and experienced life living with constant fear and anxiety, and I have more recently experienced a life with very little fear and much more room left over for love. What I have learned is this:
If living in fear is the only way for me to survive, then the life I would be forced to live in order to survive is no longer really worth living.
--Soulfire
As for moral relativity:
I see it more as a wholistic model. Even so called "evil" always has the potential to lead to the greatest overall good. A person can be brutally raped, but they can also take that experience and make something very positive out of it. Maybe they decide to be a rape counselor, and help hundreds of other people cope with similar situations for example. In a case like this, what we tend to judge as "evil" can lead to much more "good" in the long term than would have been possible had there been no "evil". If you can see the big picture, evil and good work together as a "team" to enable growth towards the greatest possible good for all in the long run.
In the end, you are always going to find your way back to God...the only difference is how you choose to get there and how much suffering you choose to cause for yourself along the way.
--Soulfire
Waves rise and fall. Evil may be on the increase (in general, for years now) but I would argue that recent fights/whatever on the forums would be more the influence of Mars and some pretty extreme electrical alignments in the last couple of weeks. Tsh! I leave you people alone for 2 weeks and see what happens!!!! hehe.
Seriously though, if any of you are feeling fed up and like leaving, instead of announcing a final absence from the pulse I would advise you to leave it a week or two, then come back here, have a sniff around and see how things feel then. A break can do wonders to clear the mind, and the forums will probably be clear sailing again soon enough.
And remember - that you, the members, make the forums what they are
aho!
Rob
Hi Chill,
Those are some pretty good thoughts so I want to throw my cap full of opinions in....
With regards to the whole UFO thing I tend to remain neutral on all of this. There are too many nutcases on either side of this topic. Both side seem to put forward extreem views - either aliens are gods or they are monsters. If the truth is out there (ok, bad X-files pun) Then I think it lies somewhere in the middle of these extremes.
As to new age dogma being egotistical (or egocentric),I though that one of the key elements to most new age / esoteric philosophies was the removal of the ego. Desires of self must be removed before progress can really be made.
The "power of positive thinking" has been preached by a large number of christian ministers. I wouldn't class this as a new age idea. As to altering reality this way, this is best left to the Astral realms where this idea does actually work.
The aspects of good and evil have been discussed quite a bit on this forum. Do a search and you'll find a few lengthy threads. My personal opinion is that they are a matter of perspective. But then I see many things as being a patter of perspective as I believe that our perspective is what ultimately shapes our realities.
I used to be in a church that had a high emphasis on spiritual warfare. I've only ever been attacked by negs twice - and seriously, as each time I was almost completely suffocated. This was while attending this church and getting involved in spiritual warfare. I wasn't taught to shield properly because the minister honestly didn't have a clue. Christians have a rather apt term for ministers and their followers who engage in this kind of thing all the time - witch-hunters.
"This is something I had been (perhapse intuitively) thinking about many years ago, when I was borderline mystic - probably borderline crazy."
I wouldn't say being borderline crazy is a bad thing. This just means that you're not fitting in with societies conditioning, and the way I see it, thats a good thing! [;)]
Just remember the words of Seal: "no we're never going to get by unless we are a little crazy."
Take care,
James.
Has anybody seen those black orb thingies flying around? I've seen two so far. They are about a foot in diameter and are REALLY REALLY fast. All you will see, if you see one (usually in your peripheral vision) is a spot of black for a split-second, and possibly a very short trail of black following it. These things have been reportedly increasing, or at least the sightings of them have.
I follow no prophets. Nostradamus was full of crap, and I don't know of any other prophet who has been right in their predictions.
There is a little voice inside us all called our conscience. I think we should just listen to that. The best way to win this spirit war is to do what you normally think is right. The war itself is merely a distraction from your personal battles. Know that the war exists, but fight your own battles and help anybody who is being overcome by a more powerful spirit (of darkness).
As Bruce Lee said, a person with true wisdom simply lives their life rather than seeking the truth. It is in this that the true wisdom is found.
The simple knowledge that there is a truth is just a distraction from finding it. Maybe we were never meant to know.
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If man is one with the cosmos or some impersonal concept of God there cannot be a basis for truth or ethics. The impersonal, as such is silent about such things. There is no basis for saying anything is right or wrong if all is one with God.
There are dualities. There is positive and negative, right and left, light and dark. All are one, but the universe is manifest to separate and allow one to realize the other. Aside from that, the world is relativistic. There is no personal god manifest. An impersonal god is the logical and original concept, and that is why it is accepted as truth by many.
Hail my brothers and sisters,
YOur are right my friend war is near, But no mortal man can fight this war this war is not of Normal man, No ki bull excrement liek that, This war is going to be from the earth on our earth not just of aliens, but of a war that was once long ago, I know you all feel this coming, Our power the rise everyday, Even wicca people cannot read me cuss they know my ower is overwelming and this is no lie, I ant strong yet but we will bes trong ad we will remeber this war, And we will win it for this is a war that is the mos timportent thing in exist for if we loose everything is doomed! Now com on you knw you feel this jsut understand dont be affriand cuss i have the strongest dought that we will fall, For we have never fallan in our ways!
huh....yeah. Well, Fantasia versus The Never Ending Story, maybe with a little Legend tossed in with a pinch of Lord of the Ring, eh?
The biggest unmentioned (maybe purposely) common thread throughout mankinds ego is the need to be battled over. It makes you more important when you are the prize of a war, no? So grandios, the idea that all heaven and hell would battle for our very souls....LOL.
Well, if it makes you feel better feeling afraid and at the mercy of the ephemerals whims, more power to you. I'll just sit over here and watch.
Foas... Maybe no MORTAL man can... But they haven't met me yet... AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!! *laughs insanely for another ten minutes, pauses for 4.623 seconds, then continues to laugh insanely for five more minutes*
LMFAO!!!!!!, Well you havnt met me yet WAHAHAHAHAHHA, All about the ancient art of the dragons!
i have been acting weird lately coz my posts have become very agressive normally i would never brag about my strenth but i did on a post, i told the secrets of my training and i told how powerful i am. i have felt scaray things around lately but have seen no black orbs. maybe the spirits are effecting my judgement. i prey i dont do anythin dangerous at school.
sd.
Ugh I've said this like way too many times, and I cannot believe I'm gonna say it AGAIN.
Well now Foas and neo. Two kids set on being the strongest in the universe. Maybe you should fight each other...maybe I can set it up FOR you... in, what I like to call...
UN-Spelling Bee 2003!!!
Let's take a look at the combatants. In this corner, wearing the blue trunks, the man of typos himself... FOAS!!!
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YOur are right my friend war is near
Ooh some strong opening words from Foas! Now... in this corner, wearing the red trunks, the one, the only, NEO!!!
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i have been acting weird lately coz my posts have become very agressive normally i would never brag about my strenth but i did on a post
Talk about a run-on sentence! Let's keep it for the real fight..
Round One... FIGHT!
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But no mortal man can fight this war this war is not of Normal man, No ki bull s**t liek that, This war is going to be from the earth on our earth not just of aliens, but of a war that was once long ago, I know you all feel this coming, Our power the rise everyday, Even wicca people cannot read me cuss they know my ower is overwelming and this is no lie, I ant strong yet but we will bes trong ad we will remeber this war, And we will win it for this is a war that is the mos timportent thing in exist for if we loose everything is doomed! Now com on you knw you feel this jsut understand dont be affriand cuss i have the strongest dought that we will fall, For we have never fallan in our ways!
Oh crap that's gotta hurt Neo quite alot! Let's see how he replies!
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i told the secrets of my training and i told how powerful i am. i have felt scaray things around lately but have seen no black orbs. maybe the spirits are effecting my judgement. i prey i dont do anythin dangerous at school.
Not as many words, but PLENTY of errors! Let's take a look at the totals!
Most Mispelled Words / Grammatical Errors!Foas . | . Neo
31/147 | 13/43And the worst speller IS....
NEO! With over 30% errors in his post beyond the opening words, Neo beats Foas by 9%
What a close match! Let's hope for a rematch in the future.
You should be glad that I was lenient on a few errors. If I were a real english teacher, I might have killed you.
Don't take this as offensive, take it as a lesson. You never know when you'll be secretly entered into another fake un-spelling bee.
~Squeek
man u really r a funny guy Squeek and sorry bout the other posts i aint normally like that its just acured to me wat has been happening
and did i win the spelling bee or wat lol. i wouldent normally talk about my powers in that fasion so sorry again.(i know im gunna get killed 4 my spelling)
This is strange, for I have been feeling, and acting, more aggressive as of late. I even feel hatred towards people. This scares me.
im not too sure if this thread is a joke that i lack the faculty to understand, or is describing something very strange going on.
someone care to fill me in?
lol.. squeek.. that's great
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I am sure you all have seen the terrible things happening in the world. I cannot deny that this is due to a great spirit-war taking place. It exists even within these forums.
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Yeah, there is good and evil...as is above, so is below. Why does this surprise you?
IGNORANCE is the enemy- not this person or that person. I would be very curious to learn what you know about the "great spirit war." May I assume that you have studied the world of causes and possess understanding?
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MARK MY WORDS: Hostility is on the rise. Even here. There are people here who are going to verbally attack me for this. That's nice, I don't care.
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This makes perfect sense if one understands where we are in human evolution. If one doesn't...it's like trying to shovel smoke with a pitch fork in the wind!
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Opinions prove nothing, insults solve nothing.
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I love opinions! It's sentimets that are worthless and most people don't appear to know the difference. They wouldn't trade pennies for dollars, but they're willing to trade sentiments for opinions. What a curiosity?
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If you give in to temptations to insult others, you're losing a battle. All a part of the war. Watch what you say... watch what you do... Demons and negs are everywhere, and they intend to make you believe in illusions that will cause us to hurt one another in one way or another. They are attracted to anger and fear. They are attracted to mankind's systems and ways- what better weakness of humanity can they use to control and manipulate us? It is these patterns that make us so predictable and weak.
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Your sentiments are baseless. We are responsible for what we say. Why are you intent on spreading fear? Shame and a sin...
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Allanon already pointed this out- Why the hell is nobody addressing the spirit-war when it is all around us?
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Mr Allanon doesn't posses the keys to understand the Holy Bible. He constantly misinterprets and misplaces arbitrary Bible quotes as though he possess understanding. He is responsible for his misleading others. A materialistsic reading of a spiritual book is completely inconsistent. Inconsistency is the root of confusion.
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It's just like in WWII when the Nazis were torturing and killing everyone they hated and nobody said anything. 6 MILLION JEWS were killed (not to mention many more people of other races, creeds, ethnicities, and cultures). I think this is something that needs to be addressed: THEY ARE OUT THERE, AND THEY ARE FIGHTING. The spirits are fighting, and I can feel it. I just know. I don't THINK. I KNOW. This is a very big, all-encompassing war. There is no part of the astral that is safe, save Heaven (which is not so much the astral as it is another realm).
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You just know, hugh? More sentiments! You claim that no part of the astral is safe and then claim that Heaven is...get your directions straight. FYI: there are 7 layers to the desire world. The top 3 portions are the Heavenly layers; the bottom 3 layers are what we term "Hell." This is ridiculous! How about putting your time in and getting it right before you throw baseless sentiments around the world to scare people. Yikes!
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Please forgive me for using Christian terms, but I want to get this out quickly.
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So, you're just going to throw your sentiments out to the world? This is completely disrespectful toward the Word of God. It appears as though you are more interested in being heard than taking the time to write correctly. FYI: one tells a tree by the fruit.
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Goingslow being banned is just one small part of one small battle of this war. There is only one way out: stop following systems of mankind. They don't work, plain and simple. No government will work, no church, no internet, no computer is safe.
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It appears that you are an underdevloped soul. Your solution toward the evolution of mankind appears to be: Stop everything. FYI: that which does not move upwards will degenerate- this is what "salvation" is all about.
Why do you wish to deter evolution? Are you overwhelmed by it all? Perhaps, you should take the time to study human evolution well enough to understand it BEFORE you decide to tear it down? It's as though you are an enemy of mankind...
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They start off open and accepting, and over time are forced to become narrowed down, and then they collapes in on themselves. Those who followed those systems then find themselves lost and confused, because they relied on those systems. There are very few operating systems that exist in the world, the two biggest being Macintosh and Microsoft. Microsoft is the operating SYSTEM used by the government, and is constantly being hacked into by little 15-year-old computer whizzes. Feel safe from the terrorists now? The reason there is so much turmoil is because people refuse to follow nature. You can only save yourself. I can only post this here to try to warn people, but nobody is going to listen to me. Do I not have an argument when I say that systems do not work?
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This paragraph represents absolute stupidity! Are you on drugs?
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Look at time. Time flows, and is ever-changing and formless. It is the one thing nobody can ever destroy. Things in time that are rigid and structured are destroyed sooner or later. Look at all the past worlds- Atlantis, Egypt, etc. Where are those societies today? They are lost, because of their systems.
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Yes, everything in form degenerates. You finally got something right. However, your application is incomplete and incorrect.
Of course the societies from the past are gone! Dugh!!! Your statement lacks any kind of coherent understanding whatsoever. Stop taking drugs, dude.
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On a side note: I know not everyone agrees with Allanon's views and are sick of him spewing bible quotes, but I think there is some validity in certain things he says. He puts his bible quotes in bold letters, so it's not that hard to skip over it if you don't want to read it. On the other hand, it is interesting to see how it relates to what he is saying.
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Mr Allanon has yet to present a Bible quote properly. Am I supposed to be impressed that he uses a bold font? This is blatent materialism, which is the root of the problem.
It is more interesting to note how far someone can be from the truth and be so bold about their claims. It's quite sad, really.
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On another side note: Don't dwell on the war, but know that it is going on. Don't dwell on evil, but know that you're going to have to deal with it sooner or later. Be prepared. As soon as you think you understand reality, it changes. Don't follow systems, governments, etc. They will lead you nowhere. They only exist to control and manipulate people into depending on them.
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It's this kind of nonsense that people fear the most! Your ignorance attempts to mislead people into total anarchy. The systems that you wish to destroy are the best we can do at this point in our evolution. Your solution leads to nowhere.
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Anyway, we're all gonna die. See you later.
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Yes, death is certain. Why are you so surprised? One would be better served by pursuing an understanding of death and how it relates to life. Your solutions have death written all over them.
"The more I die, the better I live." Maybe someday, you'll understand this? I used a BOLD font so that it's not hard to skip over...impressive, hugh?
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Hail my brothers and sisters,
YOur are right my friend war is near, But no mortal man can fight this war this war is not of Normal man, No ki bull excrement liek that, This war is going to be from the earth on our earth not just of aliens, but of a war that was once long ago, I know you all feel this coming, Our power the rise everyday, Even wicca people cannot read me cuss they know my ower is overwelming and this is no lie, I ant strong yet but we will bes trong ad we will remeber this war, And we will win it for this is a war that is the mos timportent thing in exist for if we loose everything is doomed! Now com on you knw you feel this jsut understand dont be affriand cuss i have the strongest dought that we will fall, For we have never fallan in our ways!
The question you have to ask yourself is.....
Who am I fighting for?
"Feel safe from the terrorists now?"
Yes. I also felt safe on 9/11/01. How can I be afraid of something that kills less people than are struck by lightning?
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Originally posted by Narrow Path
The question you have to ask yourself is.....
Who am I fighting for?
Narrow minded:
Ask the right questions, get the right answers.
The question that you should ask yourself is: what have I done in my life (i.e. study, etc...) that warrants a correct understanding of a spiritual book? After all, you reap what you sow. If ignorance is what you have sown, it is ignorance that you will reap...spreading it around only makes you responsible for leading others the wrong direction.
Spiritual matters are not to be trivialized and assumed understood through simple reading. Strong sentiments and dim feelings are are NOT the basis for understanding.
Speaking in Christ's name from the standpoint of ignorance is NOT the narrow path; it's disrespectful.
I did also feel anger on 9/11 but that is normal tell i felt the emanc energy the day beoe 9/11, Somthing going on and its very soon and i dont like it hehe
A few things I'd like to say:
First of all, I'm going back to read all the replies later.
Secondly, I don't see why America is making such a huge spectacle of 9/11, sure about 3000 civilians were killed, but what about Hiroshima? HALF A MILLION CIVILIANS were killed. I think that's a little unfair.
Finally, this whole war thing makes sense. As below, so above (and beyond), and vice versa. The spirits are fighting because we ourselves are fighting, etc. Don't know who started it, but the fact is, there's fighting going on. A lot of ancient civilisations seemed to believe that there is a kind of cycle. Mankind has been rising and falling since the beginning. This is just another falling - a pretty big one but there will be another rise. This is our world, and we aren't about to leave it just yet. And if worst comes to worst, we'll become One again like in buddhist teachings and we'll create ourselves a new one.
Do not fear death, for it is only the beginning. Being afraid just feeds the hunger of the evil that is trying to consume us. The only thing that we have to protect is the heart and soul of humankind. Those of mankind who have fallen and resort to violence and do not care for such things as we do have already been controlled by that which is our enemy.
It's just like the times before the Great Flood from Zecheriah Sitchin's work, or Noah's Ark from the Bible. The world was a terrible place, so God (or Enlil) tried to destroy humankind. But as always, there were survivors (represented by Noah and his family) who rebuilt mankind.
I am also reminded of The Matrix Reloaded, where the Architect tells Neo that there have already been other Neos, and it has always ended with the destruction of Zion and the few survivors would rebuild it. Call it fate if you wish, it's just a cycle of inevitibility. I don't believe the end will be too soon, but it isn't far away either.
Quit cowering behind religions too, just face the "evil" and do not be afraid to die. The only thing I'm scared of death is the unknown and the pain [:)].
My two cents
~FT
I am sure you all have seen the terrible things happening in the world. I cannot deny that this is due to a great spirit-war taking place. It exists even within these forums. MARK MY WORDS: Hostility is on the rise. Even here. There are people here who are going to verbally attack me for this. That's nice, I don't care. Opinions prove nothing, insults solve nothing. If you give in to temptations to insult others, you're losing a battle. All a part of the war. Watch what you say... watch what you do... Demons and negs are everywhere, and they intend to make you believe in illusions that will cause us to hurt one another in one way or another. They are attracted to anger and fear. They are attracted to mankind's systems and ways- what better weakness of humanity can they use to control and manipulate us? It is these patterns that make us so predictable and weak.
Allanon already pointed this out- Why the hell is nobody addressing the spirit-war when it is all around us? It's just like in WWII when the Nazis were torturing and killing everyone they hated and nobody said anything. 6 MILLION JEWS were killed (not to mention many more people of other races, creeds, ethnicities, and cultures). I think this is something that needs to be addressed: THEY ARE OUT THERE, AND THEY ARE FIGHTING. The spirits are fighting, and I can feel it. I just know. I don't THINK. I KNOW. This is a very big, all-encompassing war. There is no part of the astral that is safe, save Heaven (which is not so much the astral as it is another realm).
Please forgive me for using Christian terms, but I want to get this out quickly.
Goingslow being banned is just one small part of one small battle of this war. There is only one way out: stop following systems of mankind. They don't work, plain and simple. No government will work, no church, no internet, no computer is safe. They start off open and accepting, and over time are forced to become narrowed down, and then they collapes in on themselves. Those who followed those systems then find themselves lost and confused, because they relied on those systems. There are very few operating systems that exist in the world, the two biggest being Macintosh and Microsoft. Microsoft is the operating SYSTEM used by the government, and is constantly being hacked into by little 15-year-old computer whizzes. Feel safe from the terrorists now? The reason there is so much turmoil is because people refuse to follow nature. You can only save yourself. I can only post this here to try to warn people, but nobody is going to listen to me. Do I not have an argument when I say that systems do not work? Look at time. Time flows, and is ever-changing and formless. It is the one thing nobody can ever destroy. Things in time that are rigid and structured are destroyed sooner or later. Look at all the past worlds- Atlantis, Egypt, etc. Where are those societies today? They are lost, because of their systems.
On a side note: I know not everyone agrees with Allanon's views and are sick of him spewing bible quotes, but I think there is some validity in certain things he says. He puts his bible quotes in bold letters, so it's not that hard to skip over it if you don't want to read it. On the other hand, it is interesting to see how it relates to what he is saying.
On another side note: Don't dwell on the war, but know that it is going on. Don't dwell on evil, but know that you're going to have to deal with it sooner or later. Be prepared. As soon as you think you understand reality, it changes. Don't follow systems, governments, etc. They will lead you nowhere. They only exist to control and manipulate people into depending on them.
Anyway, we're all gonna die. See you later.