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Title: Breathing
Post by: astraladdict on July 17, 2011, 22:54:12
So, i kept noticing how when people breathe their chest rises and falls, but i noticed last night. My chest doesn't. It says stationary as my lower region rises and falls. So all you smart F***kers out there, why is that?  :-D

~astraladdict
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: c0sm0nautt on July 17, 2011, 23:23:14
It's belly breathing. I've learned from meditation practice to breath this way. You get deeper breaths. If your breathing deep enough your chest will rise after your tummy is full.
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: astraladdict on July 18, 2011, 00:28:19
Quote from: c0sm0nautt on July 17, 2011, 23:23:14
It's belly breathing. I've learned from meditation practice to breath this way. You get deeper breaths. If your breathing deep enough your chest will rise after your tummy is full.
Any benifits from naturally breathing like this?

~astraladdict
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: dotster on July 18, 2011, 01:54:34
Quote from: astraladdict on July 18, 2011, 00:28:19
Any benifits from naturally breathing like this?

~astraladdict

More delicious oxygen!
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: c0sm0nautt on July 18, 2011, 12:48:29
Quote from: astraladdict on July 18, 2011, 00:28:19
Any benifits from naturally breathing like this?

~astraladdict

For one, your usually more aware of your breathing when your breathing like this.
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: astraladdict on July 18, 2011, 12:53:17
Quote from: c0sm0nautt on July 18, 2011, 12:48:29
For one, your usually more aware of your breathing when your breathing like this.

Only cause it gets in the way >.<
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: blis on July 18, 2011, 13:06:47
Quote from: astraladdict on July 18, 2011, 00:28:19
Any benifits from naturally breathing like this?

Aparently you get more oxygen. Something to do with the alveoli stretching vertically instead of horizontally. I cant remember the details but I read a book on pranayama once and it give a whole load of reasons why diaphragmatic breathing is better.

It was trying to get you to do yogic breathing where you fill from your diaphragm first and then your chest all in the same breath. It mentioned clavicular breathing aswell but said you got so little air from that part that there wasnt much point doing it.

If you're doing it naturally I'd guess it's cause you're not holding tension in your abs like most people do. I'm the same but I had to consciously change.

Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: c0sm0nautt on July 18, 2011, 13:09:13
Quote from: astraladdict on July 18, 2011, 12:53:17
Only cause it gets in the way >.<

Fro my experience, It becomes much more natural with practice.
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: Xanth on July 18, 2011, 13:14:05
Quote from: astraladdict on July 17, 2011, 22:54:12
So, i kept noticing how when people breathe their chest rises and falls, but i noticed last night. My chest doesn't. It says stationary as my lower region rises and falls. So all you smart F***kers out there, why is that?  :-D

~astraladdict
Because you're breathing "properly".
People who breath through their chest aren't breathing properly.  It's a learned condition due to people afraid of being "fat".

If you stare at a baby breathing, note which part of their upper body rises and falls... it's their belly.  Why?  Because they haven't been "taught" to breath with their chest.

Belly breathing is "proper" because it takes much less energy to work your diaphragm from there than it does to move it with your chest.

You should try to unlearn "chest breathing" if at all possible.  When I started Aikido, I was told to stop chest breathing, because you'll get tired much more quickly.
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: astraladdict on July 18, 2011, 13:44:50
I guess i never really learned "chest breathing" the "Belly breathing" on the other hand i do need to learn to control, it was a big help when i played football though. ( i was running back ;D)

~astraladdict
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: stratcat96 on July 18, 2011, 20:38:16
"belly breathing" is just what they teach you to do when you sing as well
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: Stookie_ on July 20, 2011, 11:25:56
QuotePeople who breath through their chest aren't breathing properly. It's a learned condition due to people afraid of being "fat".

Whaaaaaatttt????
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: Xanth on July 20, 2011, 11:47:45
Quote from: Stookie_ on July 20, 2011, 11:25:56
Whaaaaaatttt????
Well, I'm putting it extremely simplistically... the desire of western culture to "look good" at all times with our thin waste lines and such is a driving factor.

Simply put, as humans, we're not supposed to EVER be breathing by expanding our chests.  It's an inefficient way of doing it and is wrong... it's entirely "learned" through our crappy society.

http://www.stop-anxiety-attack-symptoms.com/breathing.html
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: blis on July 20, 2011, 15:26:50
Sometimes you have to use thoratic breathing. I've tried using my diaphragm when weight lifting and it just aint practical - you need to tense your abs and your core.

Holding tension can also be about keeping emotions in. I keep meaning to read up on neuro-muscular armouring(my dad keeps mentioning it) but I never get round to it.
Title: Re: Breathing
Post by: Stookie_ on July 21, 2011, 12:02:43
Quote from: Ryan_ on July 20, 2011, 11:47:45
Well, I'm putting it extremely simplistically... the desire of western culture to "look good" at all times with our thin waste lines and such is a driving factor.

Simply put, as humans, we're not supposed to EVER be breathing by expanding our chests.  It's an inefficient way of doing it and is wrong... it's entirely "learned" through our crappy society.

http://www.stop-anxiety-attack-symptoms.com/breathing.html

Yeah, I know about breathing from your diaphragm, I'm just skeptical that not doing it is something we unconsciously pick up from society because we want to look more thin. Never heard that one before.