Building your luck and fighting depressions

[atalanta]

Positive thinking does help a lot.  It can change brain chemistry to help you feel happier, etc.  If you are positive it also means you are more clear thinking and can see more opportunities than if you are depressed.

Bravo on displaying so much courage as to talk about it so openly.  I am really pleased that you did that.

The only thing I would add is that people who do go to see therapists or take medications are not wrong to do so, or that they are not just being negative and not trying hard enough.  Everyone has different levels of coping and some people simply can't get out of their situation without help.  Sometimes its just faster to get over things by talking with someone than trying to just be positive.  For example, if a person has been attacked or abused as a child, no amount of positive thinking is going to make that turn around.  They need to vent, to cry, to process, etc before letting it go, if they ever can.  If you ever had to see a therapist, I certainly would not think less of you or anyone.

[Kazbadan]

Yes, profissional help it´s important too. I didnt used it because my family would have known of my situation, and for many reasons i dont want that. For that reason i never used medicaments, wich is good, because sometimes side effects are bad (besides that without a doctor prescription it would be dangerous to me)

But if you start to change your mind and your way to interact with the world, with or without profissional help, so much better.

[Rastus]

A fellow (former)Depressive!

Read my intorductory post for my background.

I am a firm believer that if you don't take care of your soul, your body withers.

I'm trying to incorporate all my life changes that I've left out of my spirituality.  I used to be tremendously self concious, and now I'm not.  I used to be overly concerned about what others said, and now I'm not.  Many negative feelings I no longer have.  Worrying about bad skin as a teenager practically crippled me socially.  My confidence now means I'm not inhibited about who I really am (I'm still not sure how much to confess to my wife).

So the same with depression.  I managed to get spiritually jump started again(Effexor has its uses) so I can look after myself again.  Some anti-depressant medications are metaphysically crippling (I had to take some unused Paxil out of the house, it was annoying to just have it around!), and limits you in ways no MD ever thought of!

Where the mind goes, the body follows.

[Kazbadan]

Hi Rastus! What do you mean by "Some anti-depressant medications are metaphysically crippling " and by "and limits you in ways no MD ever thought of"? MD word is getting me confuse. I ask this because of my english, since it is not my mother tongue.

Sorry for being so boring by asking this.

Thanks guys (or should i say guy and girl) for your strenghten to me!

[Taalnar]

Kazbadan, do you still get angry and stuff every so often?  Because if you are always acting happy when you are really sad or angry it may catch up on you and you will end up going to the other extreme.

Its good what you are doing, but in my opinion it is best to find a good balance if you havn't already.

[Rastus]

My Apologies.

This board is more international than I am used to.  I will make an effort to be more specific.

MD=Medical Doctor, a physician that can prescribe drugs, a 'regular' doctor.

PD= Phychological Doctor, A Therapists, A Councelar that can NOT prescribe drugs, but only talks to patients.  PD's usually work with MD's so patients get drugs and therapy.


Doctors do not take into account Metaphysical side effects of any medication they prescribe.  Why should they?  They deny anything Metaphysical (with those incredibly rare exceptions of Doctors that are also Physcic healers, and there are a few).  

Paxil CR made me metaphysically numb.  I couldn't raise power or read Aura's worth a dam.  I felt like I was in a perpetual fog, a palpable feeling of heaviness behind my eyes.
WellButrin made me agressive, very emotional.  I had great difficulty staying metaphysically centered.  I had urges to do things to people/animals no healer should ever contemplate.  My dog would have nothing to do with me for the 2 weeks I was on WellButrin, and its impossible to get him off my bed sometimes!
My wife went on a 2 week vacation to visit her mother some 1000 km away.  I was on Remoran (mirtazipine) for the whole time she was gone.  She broke down in tears on the way home from the airport because she didn't recognize me.  I wasn't 'me', I'm not sure who I was but it definately wasn't me.
Effexor wasn't that bad.  I could metaphysically center myself.  Actually I could focus quite well, whereas I hadn't been able to focus at all the prior 6 months.  I think it took about 2 weeks of centering and meditating before I actually threw off the depression.

There's an ancient saying Physician, Heal Thyself!.  Minor ailments are easy (the only time I'm really sick is when I mess up a healing).  But if your so sick you can't heal yourself, and your so depressed you don't care, then what can you do?  I don't have any Metaphysical friends I see often enough who could have noticed and helped me (sigh).

[Kazbadan]

Taalnar, i am really changing (or at least trying) my inner view of the world. I am not forcing to be happy. I am just changing my attitude. I know what you mean, and that is dangerous i know because i have passed for that too. Sometimes i commit the same mistake.

I believe that the best path is the path of the middle. Do not enter in extremes directions as you say. Be moderate in your acts and use goodness and sympathy for every being.

My changing atitude (slow to change, but differen now) it is not only based in the idea that i must see everything in the positive side. It includes also the idea (idea make into acts) that i must recognize the suffering and limitations of living beings; that i must develop compassion because only with that we will reach luminous and higher places. This are not only beautiful words.

I used to be a violent guy with people agressive to me (with no reason). Now i see things in a different way: often i feel compassion for such people because i know that they are not able to realise that such evilness and rage against me it is just based on igorance and blindness. I see that they dont see. I see that such evil will be bad for then, more than to me and i feel compassion for then.

With this words (when i say that they are blind and i have compassion, etc) i dont want to pretend to be the good guy or the doctor (using an analogy). I am not the doctor saying how to heal just because i am the doctor. Instead i see myself as the sick and cancerigenous guy (analogy! i dont have cancer...i think!) that is near his own death and for that reason is trying to warn other peope to do not make the same mistakes that i did, that conducted me to the disease.

I wish you good and love.

[Kazbadan]

I used to be a depressive guy, always in the bad mood. I even had been very near of commiting stupid acts with myself (you know what).

At one year ago i started to change my life just because i changed my life view. I dont understand how i started to make it but what i know is that now i am more opened to luck and good things than before.

I started to modify my life by changing my point of view with the world. I will try always to catch the positive side of things, instead of their negative counterpart.

Now i am more optimistic and i believe (differently form my past) that i can build by own luck and a good future to myself (despite the really unlucky things like accidents,etc).

If i want something i will fight for it with an opened and freshy spirit, with a clear and relaxed mind, knowing that (even if not true) that i will achieve what i want. I i believe strongly in something i will get it.

Other thing important is that now i am more bold than before, and i make more daring acts (not selfkilling acts like riding at 100 miles/hour in the highway!). I dont mind with the bad consequences of this acts (unless they can hurt the hearth of someone than me) wich can make me jump bigger "leaps" of my life.

Since that, that my depression is fading aways (still being a hard fight). I never used any medicaments or went into the psychiastric in order to heal me, but wiht my new view of the world, i will not need it anyway.

We are the ones building our own luck.

For coincidence, i found this site in the internet at some time ago, and it shares my views:

http://www.luckfactor.co.uk