what are you trying to ask for?
If I am Asperger's or just highly gifted...
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Originally posted by AngelicSaiyan
If I am Asperger's or just highly gifted...
Hi AngelicSaiyan,
Obviously you've done your research! However I can't comment on Asperger's.
But sounds like you are just like the rest of humanity! Only that, like many of the younger ones on this board (and some old sods as well) ... gifted, sensitive and blessed with wonderful potential.
Your lucky actually – when I was in and around your age there was scant chance to talk to open and like minded folk about the paranormal (it should be called normal really). The internet and forums like this were no more than dreams of the future.
You are absolutely fine... enjoy life and be glad of the shared experience of people you can now meet on equal terms.
Bye,
S
Although some appear to have cranked it up out of control, and perhaps take advantage of gifted youth at this time – you might find it worth a look at the Indigo Children phenomena.
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Originally posted by AngelicSaiyan
If I am Asperger's or just highly gifted...
P.S. Try www.metagifted.org. Or from the www.indigochild.com site here is a typical Indigo profile in summery: -
What is an indigo Child?
As a summary, here are the ten attributes that best describe this new kind of child, the Indigo Child (named by those who predicted it).
• They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
• They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
• Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
• They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
• They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
• They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
• They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
• They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
• They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
• They are not shy in letting you know what they need.
I've known that I have no disability or syndrome, but I like the idea of the Indigo child. However, I only fit into a couple of the bullets of the description.
My mother has always said that whatever is in my special ed profile was "just words", and they are. Apparently, the psychology world has difficulty in assessing unique people with unique ways, such as myself. I happen to view myself as an enlightened, unique individual, who wants to view and enjoy life as I see fit, not usually what is considered "the norm".
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Originally posted by AngelicSaiyan
I've known that I have no disability or syndrome, but I like the idea of the Indigo child. However, I only fit into a couple of the bullets of the description.
My mother has always said that whatever is in my special ed profile was "just words", and they are. Apparently, the psychology world has difficulty in assessing unique people with unique ways, such as myself. I happen to view myself as an enlightened, unique individual, who wants to view and enjoy life as I see fit, not usually what is considered "the norm".
Spot on - just go for it!!!
Nice chatting to you.
Cheers for now,
S
Im not anti-establishment, establishement is anti-me
A great many people have some form of obsessive or compulsive behaviour, and even if it cannot be completely removed from their life, people can control it so it does not interfere with living.
So too with social behaviour. It's a very well run cliché, but the "socially inept - but academically skilled" type is very common indeed. Again, this need not be a problem per se, as long as it is not providing any real negative impact on your life.
Your mother knows what she's talking about.
I had the same problem as you but at a much younger age. I was diagnosed with ADD and my parents said that they were crazy. I just didn't like or see the need for phonics at the time. I still don't. I also have a high IQ of 165 but I'm considered quite strange at times. I find that intelligence is always strange to those that have none. It's like magic to them. Also most doctors aren't really all that smart (the average lifespan for a doctor is 57) and just profess it.
Also there is nothing wrong with a little obsession, unless you take it passed moderation. The cars and computers just sound like hobbies to me. A person needs hobbies in this day and age or they will go insane.
Honestly, I believe you also fall into the circle of the Indigo Children as does myself. You are very different and there is nothing wrong with different. The only thing to watch out for is when "in" becomes the prefix of that word.
[8D] Now I know I'm not alone
I figured there were some people that had the same problem as I had
Dear AngelicSaiyan. I work with gifted and special ed. kids.
The reason they are saying you have ADD may be that gifted kids with high IQ's often have what I call "busy brain". Their thoughts are so fast that it comes off as a restlessness, nervousness, and an inability to focus on one thing. All of which may be true.
I often was in trouble in grade school because I was the first to finish something. You have likely had the same experience. Also, very scattered thoughts and focus because you are easily bored in most school settings.
If you can learn to focus, really focus, on one thing at a time, the restlessness and inattentiveness will ease up. When you find your mind and/or emotions racing, take a few deep breathes and start a mental dialogue in your head that says - relax.
Of course, some of this is teenage hormones racing through you right now.[;)] It does even out in a few years.
Become immersed in something like music - something you can get "lost in" in a zen sort of way. It can be anything - anything you can just "be" with. Whatever you do, be very cautious about any drug therapy - or drugs in general. They tend to make a brilliant mind into a dull, unreactive one.
Wish you were in a school like mine and could be with hundreds of kids like yourself. We have kids with perfect SAT's at 15 and I can just barely understand the titles of some of their science and math symposium projects. They are so great as a group because they finally have friends and classmates that are a good fit for them.
Find other gifted kids - gifted in anything - IQ, art, music, sports, debate, and it will help you overcome the bored and busy brain syndrome. It is not a weakness - just learn to turn it all into a strength.
You are almost out of high school. You will find that college might be a better fit for you as it allows so much more freedom in your day to day classes. Try everything and you just might find that something you love to do, love to learn about that is just right for you as a career.
The social skills will come - just stay away from the more toxic kids around you and be yourself. Don't believe what they tell you about yourself and don't let them define you.
On the other hand, don't let the anger and frustration you are feeling turn you away from potential friendships. You are just going through a lonely spell in life. And accept the fact that things are not always going to go the way you want them too -- it often doesn't and that is just life.
I doubt you have AS with no history of autism. You may have a lot of emotional issues to deal with, but you can do it. You just need to learn some new coping skills as you grow into manhood.
Good luck.....JD
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I'm almost done with my second semester of junior college. My major is business admin, to prepare myself for when my father decides to hand his business down to me. We are a lumber/retail operaton [www.curtislumber.com] in upstate NY, so I feel most of my problem lies in the fact that I am very lucky to live in a family that is financially secure. Yeah, I might have done some stupid things in my life, but I put it all behind me and move on.
JD-- I used to go to the Wildwood School based in Schenectady, Ny if you've ever heard of them. [www.wildwood.edu] They have three operations, the Curry Rd. Ext. which is their elementary/pre-adolescent program, Goodrich in Latham NY is their adolescent program, and in Niskayuna (still NY) they have their Young Adult Program, which is extended programming from 18-21 yrs which they prepare the students for the real world. I spent 3 years at Curry Rd. (ugh) and the last three at Goodrich. It's a good school, I see alot of kids who go thru there seem to fit in with kids of other special needs.
So, yes, I see where you are coming from. From my stance, I see most schools "demand" that super-smart and intelligent kids who have some sort of social issue (getting along with only kids with the same interests, like myself) be put on ritalin, which is the most asinine thing that could be done. I had that happen to me, which made things a hella worse than they were. Schools are not psychologists, so they do not (even tho they act like they do) have the right to say they will not allow a kid to attend unless the parents have their pediatric physician put the kid on ritalin.
AS, glad you are doing well and in Jr. College. And that you are off ritilin. I had to threaten to sue my nephew's school district because they wanted him on it. I told his mother to refuse and demand he be properly tested for IQ and other things.
As expected, he is just fine. Just a typical, active, lively 10 year old boy. I find that many elementary schools have problems with dealing with active boys. One of the things that is wrong with our schools is that we expect normal, healthy kids to sit behind desks for six or seven hours a day with no gym classes or recess and a 20 minute lunch. Then they complain because the kids get restless and sometimes unruly. And it is mostly the boys they can't seem to deal with. Maybe if we had more men teachers in the grade schools, this wouldn't be happening as much as it is.
Glad I teach where I do as we blend activity classes with sit down classes. Even within my own world lit classes, I group and regroup and let them move around, sit on the floor or at my desk. I have some really big basketball players that just barely squeeze into those little desks and I know they are uncomfortable.
I also have one 17 year old who is on ritilin and he is totally zoned out some days. His parents and doctors think he needs it. I wonder if they aren't just turning him into a walking vegatable. He is so smart and funny and sweet when he is alert. But other days, he can barely stay awake. Your response encourages me to speak with his parents once again after spring break about it. I would rather he be tapping his feet or whatever than to see him so un-alive.
Hope you are on spring break too.[8D]
This concern of mine has always been at the back burner untill now...
For most of my life, I have had a very high interest in things that pull my attention, such as technology, astronomy, and more recently, metaphysics, am stereo, and other things that I'd have a high interest in for short periods of time, like old phone number exchange names.
I have also had social issues in school, but I tend to belive it was all the crap shot at me by the bohemians in my class (i only had very few friends in my local school, but quite a few in the spec ed school i went to). I also had tizzies when things didn't go the way I wanted it to go (typical kid) and such.
I've been diagnosed with ADD, which I think that whoever diagnosed me should be re-educated an slapped with the DSM-IV R. People also said that I have "tendencies" for OCD, which I know is a bunch of bull.
Even though I do have obsessions about my weight (which is a good one to have), my cars, computer etc. etc., OCD is manly repetitions, like the fear of your house blowing up, so you constantly check your natural gas/lp lines and/or fuel oil, or fear that you are not clean, so you constantly wash yourself. Yeah, so what if I had a rough childhood? It doesn't mean I have any disability.
What I want to know is, if I might have a mild case of Asperger's. My psych teacher pointed it out and said that I should look it up. I don't have the autism part, but I do have giftedness (IQ is 145). I need some people's opinion. I really don't think I have AS, but I dunno..... (Note: I had college-level reading skills since like 4th grade, and the reason that I was put under SE and sent to an SE school was because of my high intelligence and being a higher level that most kids in my class). I know I shouldn't be letting this control my life, but......