Children and psychic ability

[kakkarot]

that is pretty cool. kids can be such great bundles of excitement and wonder that i don't ever want to grow up [].

~kakkarot

[Fat_Turkey]

[:O]I never wanna grow up either! You get all wrinkly and cranky...your heart seems to die []

So off to Neverland! Onward![]

[Nightfall]

Hi Fat_Turkey!

I'm curious about your post. Could you help me understand what an "energy construct" is and how you go about creating them?

[Fat_Turkey]

Oh okay.

An energy construct is a point where you gather energy and then form it into a shape. Most websites these days teach "ki balls," but I find the instruction on them pretty slack. I started out with normal visualisation methods, which took me weeks to get the hang of, but actually moving energy with the sense of touch (NEW Energy Ways) works way better.

If you want my NEW version I'll tell you here.

First, prestimulate the hands and fingers by stroking awareness on the palms and across all fingers, then sponge the whole hand. Next, move awareness from the sub-navel centre and gather it at your shoulders, then gather it in your hands. Next, put ur hands together like your holding a ball and feel it coming out and forming a ball. Some visual visualisation does help though.

Later!
-FT

[panabelle]

Cool! I babysit two kids. One is 4, the other turned 2 recently. Is 2 too old to be all energy seeing and stuff?

I've been thinking about this lately. When I have kids (somewhere in the far future, I'm only 13[]) I want to try to encourage these abilities so that they last into adolescence and adulthood. How would one go about doing this?

[Adrian]

Greetings everyone,

Children are born with the natural ability to perceieve other dimensions and energies - abilities they bring with them from the Spirit worlds from where they recently arrived. Parents of course indoctrinate their kids into using their five physical senses almost from day one - hang mobiles over cribs, give them furry toys, make baby noises etc. etc. - parents think that it is their duty to do these things because they believe that the physical world is the only world.

Older children also play Astral games. They have playmates which parents think are imaginary, but in fact are real beings they are perceiving in the Astral - the parents cannot see them of course.

Over time, the five physical mundane senses completely subsume the higher/inner senses, and the child becomes well and truly rooted in the physical world, oblivious to the higher worlds and purpose. This becomes much worse if their parents are religious, and indoctrinate them into the creed and dogma of religion as well. It is difficult to blame the parents they are only doing what their parents taught them to do, and so on for generations upon generations.

There are children who retain remarkable abilities. I know a lady who has truly remarkable abilities (way beyond the comprehension of most), and from the moment she could talk told her mother she could see Angels, and Fairies and other beings - she actually could of course.  Her mother had her baptised seven times believing her daughter to be possessed. Now, 40 years on, she still has truly remarkable abilities that she uses exclusively to help people, and without payment.

Until mankind understands Spiritual truths and realities, it will continue to get more and more steeped in materialism, and children will become progressively more indoctrinated into the material world. Everyone on this forum has seen the true path to varying extents, and each and every one can make a big difference - a vital difference if we are to defeat the dark forces which are on the attack right now, this decade being vital to the future of mankind, and to turm mankind back towards the greater purpose, symbolically building the kingdom of heaven on Earth.

There are many subtle things happening in the world today that will help. Harry Potter for example might be fun and escapism to children, but it could have a much deeper meaning. The Harry Potter idea was I saw written, channeled to J.K. Rowling while she sat on a train - she wrote it on a napkin. Harry Potter is a story, and has little or nothing to do with the ancient truths and wisdoms, but it does bring another perspective to them like continued existence after death with "nearly headless Nick", and in the latest film (which my kids are watching on DVD as a write this) there is the girl that died 50 years ago and still stays around in her Astral/etheric body as a "ghost" - "moaning Mirtle". OK - these are of course all fun characters, but one of the most important tasks is to prove the continuity of life after the death of the physical body, and the profound importance of each and every lifetime. This why the church has tried very hard to have the Harry Potter books and films banned.

Proving the continuity of life after physical death has been one of the highest priorities of the higher/inner spheres for many decades. 50 or more years ago Spirits would try to make contact through mediums of many and varied kinds, but it has since been realised that the best way forward is for people to visit the Astral worlds. This is the very reason that Astral projection has suddenly become so important, along with the valuable work of people like Robert Monroe, Bruce Moen, Robert Bruce and many others. It would be well worth asking yourselves the question of how you came to be interested in Astral projection, and indeed participating on these very forums. You will find that it is no coincidence, and that your life has a higher purpose.

Children of course have to learn the skill necessary to survive and accomplish their missions in the physical world, but at the same time they must be taught they can visit the Spirit worlds, their true homes at will, in order to remind themselves of why they are here, the greater path, an simply to take a rest and visit relatives etc..

Finally on this important matter, I would just like to observe that many adults patronise children simply because they are "young". The fact is, they are only comparitively young from a temporal perspective in this incarnation. Many children have lived numerous previous physical lives, and in many cases many more than their parents, and accordingly might well be much more advanced in the great scheme of things than their "elders". I child is a mature Spirit in a young physical body, and Spirit is immortal and eternal, and accordingly all children should be treated with exactly the same respect as adults - respected as an equal son or daugher of "God".

With best regards,

Adrian.

[goingslow]

Im not entirely convinced children are more psychic than anyone else.  I think often they're more likely to tell people their experiences because they dont have the fear of being called weird.

I think it makes sense that because they believe things are possible they are more likely to see things (if they're naturally psychic).  But i think you will find a lot of psychic experiences with adults.. they just dont go around telling everyone.  I personally think that just because you believe in these things it doesnt make you more psychic.    

I also personally dont think all invisible playmates are really entities in the astral.  I think some are children's imaginations.  But there's really no way to ever know for sure.  So im not saying they're not.  Children do have amazing imaginations though so its hard to say when children are really gaining abstract thinking (being able to pretend) or when they're really seeing someone in the astral.  

I personally think it could be either.

[goingslow]

I wonder if i could have used "personally" more in that last post.  I think its my attempt at not being argumentative.

small steps..

[Fat_Turkey]

I agree with Adrian. Children should be treated the same as adults, no matter how underdeveloped their physical brains/minds may be.

My mother patronises me and tells me my relationship with my girlfriend is nothing but a physical one, and that it's "natural" for me to "experiment." The truth is, being around her I feel as though I've known her beyond my life, and that the emotions I feel towards her aren't entirely new, and that I've experienced them before. My spiritual maturity I'm sure is well beyond that of my parents, I have begun to understand things well beyond my years, albeit I lack hands-on experiences.

Both our mothers tell us we're too young for any of that. But I feel as though they are the young, naive, and by far decieved ones. My spirit feels older and seems to be demanding respect, although I know it'll just upset things in society. Yes, I am 14. Yes, I am going through adolescance. And yes - she is my first girlfriend I've had. But this isn't a feeling other people would have very often.

On another note, raising kids and encouraging their psychic ability is what I plan to do if I'm ever to be a father.

I find it interesting that you believe that this decade is the most important to mankind's future Adrian...I always thought that the War for Humankind's Future would be sometime after 2010 - possibly even 2012...albeit the hype the huge cult has caused. Heh the only thing I doubt is my "higher purpose." I can't do anything thus far except hold my mind clear for about 3 seconds, raise energy, sense energy, and sometimes if I REALLY try, I can feel people's emotions, especially if they are close to me.

Well that's all I have to say for now.

Later
-FT

[goingslow]

The fight for mankinds future will be 2016-2021 it will be a long fight.  However they will pay reparations.

[panabelle]

Oh, goody. I've got plenty of time to get ready. [|)]

Purely out of curiousity, how do you know that it will be those precise 5 years? Not that I doubt you or anything; like I said, just curious.

Fat Turkey: That's all I can do too (maybe a little less). But we ARE only 13 and 14. We've got the rest of our lives to achieve our "higher purpose."
And how WOULD you encourage psychic ability in your children? Every time I think of something, I realize it either wouldn't work or would make my kid the weirdo of his/her class/school/town/etc.

[goingslow]

I figured out those dates the same way anyone else figures out when "the big fight for mankind" will be.  A wild guess..

I personally think there is no big battle with darkness going on.  I think people have thought "this is the big decade" for hundreds of years.  Course thats just my opinion, but I dont really listen much when someone talks about dates and armageddon type stuff..

[Fat_Turkey]

I don't want the world to end if I'm going to lose everybody I love in this world. Won't this war kill our loved ones? FOREVER? As in - their souls??

I don't think that's enough time to prepare panabelle, after all I'm getting lazy again []

Later
-FT

[panabelle]

Oh. I thought you were serious.
Goingslow, you might want to read Kakkarot's thread "My Visions" in the Prophecy and Divination section. Just a thought. If it gave my life new meaning, maybe it can at least give you a new perspective.

Fat Turkey - Well, it's not REALLY enough time to be prepared (I'll need all the time I can get...), but at least nobody's saying it'll be next Thursday. Hope not, anyway. I have an orthodontist appointment.

And, like Kakkarot said to me, "time is an illusion." Catchy.

[Fat_Turkey]

Man I love all these little quotes of wisdom have on this forum!

"Time is an illusion"

"It is important while fighting a monster not to become a monster yourself"

and so on, I can't remember them all but they're all so helpful![]

Later
-FT

[panabelle]

Acutally, the "time" quote is half of one by Douglas Adams in A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. "Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so." [|)] But that half is very deep.

[panabelle]

Actually, the "time" quote is half of one from A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. "Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so." [|)] But the first half is very deep.

My new signature is also a Douglas Adams quote. Yay. []

[clandestino]

hello there Fat Turkey ! you said :

"Man I love all these little quotes of wisdom have on this forum!

"Time is an illusion"

"It is important while fighting a monster not to become a monster yourself"

and so on, I can't remember them all but they're all so helpful!"


....Well, i just wanted to make a little point on the "time is an illusion" thing. Its no joke - ask Einstein (ok fair enough - he's not around anymore to ask). Everyone takes that quote as being metaphysical nonsense, when actually its true. Time is just a measure that is relative to your speed. Simple as that.

As for the "fighting a monster" quote - err....sorry I haven't got any words of wisdom there. !

anyway, enough of my drivel. I'm off.

[Fat_Turkey]

Yay! Douglas Adams rules! Too bad he had to die so soon []

-FT

[panabelle]

Sorry I posted twice...I had to close it out because my little brother started reading over my shoulder and when I came back I didn't see Page 2...[:I]

HE DIED?! [:O]

[goingslow]

quote:Originally posted by panabelle

Oh. I thought you were serious.
Goingslow, you might want to read Kakkarot's thread "My Visions" in the Prophecy and Divination section. Just a thought. If it gave my life new meaning, maybe it can at least give you a new perspective.

This isn't anything bad about Kakkarot..but i dont put too much faith in other people's visions.  For one I've had dreams and visions which would suggest a huge armageddon.  But how do you really interpret your dreams to mean whats going to happen for not just yourself but the whole "world"?

I also think when given messages we get them in a way we understand.  I think people who are into the whole "battle" thing get more battle type message.  Or even dream of battles more created from their own thoughts.

In other words many things are symbolic.  A big battle scene you see might be a battle in your life you need to overcome.  Lets say the imagry came to him as a personal battle.. he might interpret it as he's going to be in a fight.  Therefore a real battle scene would be a better way to relay "battle" than a personal struggle would be.

I dont put much thought into what my own dreams mean.  Now what I see in minds eye visions I think means something I need to do or somethings going to happen to me.  So someone elses interpretation of a daydream isn't really going to get me preparing for this battle for the human soul.

Just my honest take on that type of thing.

[Mirador]

Hi FT, sorry about your condition, however, there's a lot of treatments out there, I have a brother who managed to overcome his obesity with a mix of medication and counseling.

About your inquiry into children and psychic ability, I agree with you wholeheartedly. When I noticed my eighteen month old daughter Angela acting up, I didn't want her to go through what I went through. So I did what is most effective in order to stamp it out: ignoring her when she turn quizzically toward me.  However, there were some witnesses but I managed to win them to my cause, after arguing with them that she would end up a circus freak if I let her. The psychic behavior in question was that things would move around her, without physical contact, mostly toys though.

[Fat_Turkey]

Hi. I'd just like to say a few things about something amazing that happened when I was walking home from my girlfriend's place (although I assure you her place was better []).

I had just turned the corner to the street where my house was, and I saw a father with his (what looked like) 16 month old daughter. She looked at me with that innocent look that kids give you, but she looked curious and intrigued. For the whole walk home I had felt a great energy rushing through me and I felt great. I felt this energy flowing through me as well as in me. And this child seemed to not be looking at ME...but something around me!

I then proceeded to do something I've been practicing for a while. I've created energy constructs before, and although they are pretty useless this was fun. I decided to give myself some energy wings. Because of my great abundance of energy this took very little time before I actually started to feel the wings attached to me! I used some awareness actions to create them (the sense of touch is better for energy work).

And then the kid looked back at me. She had turned away for a while and now she was in awe. I could tell she was amazed at something. I held the weak constructs together with what will power I have. As I continued down the road the girl turned to face me. Then as I was almost at my house I tried to move the energy-constructed "wings" and I succeeded in flicking them. The child then laughed and muttered something that sounded like "baboo!" and then turned to her father and then pointed at me!!

I know this sounds wierd, but in Robert Bruces' Practical Psychic Self Defense, he specifically states that children are way more psychically sensitive than adults. They can see and hear things that we eventually forget how to do because society denies the existance of such things.

This is one of the coolest experiences I've had in quite a while! Pretty neet [|)]

Later
-FT