Title: come on guys
Post by: WalkerInTheWoods on July 25, 2003, 05:47:07
Post by: WalkerInTheWoods on July 25, 2003, 05:47:07
quote:
i don't want this to turn into 'one of those' forums as bad as the rest of you. if we keep feeding it though, it will.
Being sacrastic and mean to the kids is what will make this forum like 'one of those' forums. Ok maybe we are thinking about different forums, but my point is every other forum on the net has a negative feel to it. Someone posts and then wonders if one of the "negs" is going to attack them and their post. This forum has endured, probably mostly thanks to the mods, and kept a positive atmosphere. Being mean to someone who is not as evolved as yourself is not helping anyone. So what if some kids come here claiming things we all know they cannot do. It is a great opportunity in my view to teach them the truth and possibly change their lives for the better. For whatever reason someone is drawn to this place, I hope that we can rub off on them and they can leave (well not really leave, but you know) having learned something and been set on a productive path that will help them develop. At some time we were all ignorant of these things. Thankfully someone had patience with us, let us have patience with them and everyone will be better off.
Our new member with the long name (I don't remember is name right now) has actually made an effort. Give him a chance. He has admitted that he cannot do those things he claimed and has been seeking help. He just does not seem very familar with how message boards work. Someone needs to try to explain it to him and help him out.
You don't have any kids do you? [:)]
Love and Peace
Title: come on guys
Post by: Tisha on July 25, 2003, 06:20:13
Post by: Tisha on July 25, 2003, 06:20:13
Children are wonderful. I even keep one in the house [;)] They are wonderful, magical beings. Remember the magical thinking of your youth?
I used to imagine I had vast magical powers. And here I am today, typing away on Astralpulse about my otherworldly experiences. I've learned a lot about what's-what and what's-not.
I think kids spend too much time watching television, playing pinball and video games, and have warped ideas about what magic is all about. But instead of being sarcastic or cruel, I'd rather tell them what magic is REALLY like.
The real Magic is better than "ki balls" anyway.
Basically if children are here, it's because they care. If adults keep telling them they're full of $%^ and that none of these things are real, they'll stop thinking magically - - - and close their minds to the REAL magic around them. And wouldn't that be a shame!
I used to imagine I had vast magical powers. And here I am today, typing away on Astralpulse about my otherworldly experiences. I've learned a lot about what's-what and what's-not.
I think kids spend too much time watching television, playing pinball and video games, and have warped ideas about what magic is all about. But instead of being sarcastic or cruel, I'd rather tell them what magic is REALLY like.
The real Magic is better than "ki balls" anyway.
Basically if children are here, it's because they care. If adults keep telling them they're full of $%^ and that none of these things are real, they'll stop thinking magically - - - and close their minds to the REAL magic around them. And wouldn't that be a shame!
Title: come on guys
Post by: clandestino on July 25, 2003, 07:13:00
Post by: clandestino on July 25, 2003, 07:13:00
hear hear, Fallnangel77 !!
"save the children" is what I say.
I reckon people should post what they like (within astralpulse rules obviously).
My only concern on this subject is when a new person posts something for the first time, and they are immediately cut-down/ insulted..... I don't think its a very nice welcome.
Mark
"save the children" is what I say.
I reckon people should post what they like (within astralpulse rules obviously).
My only concern on this subject is when a new person posts something for the first time, and they are immediately cut-down/ insulted..... I don't think its a very nice welcome.
Mark
Title: come on guys
Post by: shadowatcher on July 25, 2003, 07:34:18
Post by: shadowatcher on July 25, 2003, 07:34:18
Ive resolved from now on to be nice as possible to kibegginersnightmare...because thats obviously who we are all talking about...
Im 13, and I made a post that I think is worth looking over...please read and respond to "The Nature of the Astral Plane" its by a kid (me) so Its not about your age, its about who you are as a person. There are plenty of adults on the net who are more rude than plenty of children on the net...
Manners cost nothing....[:)][:)][:)]
Im 13, and I made a post that I think is worth looking over...please read and respond to "The Nature of the Astral Plane" its by a kid (me) so Its not about your age, its about who you are as a person. There are plenty of adults on the net who are more rude than plenty of children on the net...
Manners cost nothing....[:)][:)][:)]
Title: come on guys
Post by: jc84corvette on July 25, 2003, 08:03:34
Post by: jc84corvette on July 25, 2003, 08:03:34
I am 15 almost 16. I am very mature dont you say? You can reason with me all you want, it wont bug me. I can have conversations with adults and act like one wile doing it.
Now im sure we have kids here that are 3 years younger then me, I think that OBE's happen at that age a lot. So we should welcome them here when they post "IS THIS AN OBE" etc... But they SHOULD act very mature or get no replys.
Just my two cents![B)]
Now im sure we have kids here that are 3 years younger then me, I think that OBE's happen at that age a lot. So we should welcome them here when they post "IS THIS AN OBE" etc... But they SHOULD act very mature or get no replys.
Just my two cents![B)]
Title: come on guys
Post by: Fenris on July 25, 2003, 08:07:13
Post by: Fenris on July 25, 2003, 08:07:13
A few days ago I was reading back over my very first posts, which are about a year and a bit old at a guess. And boy have I learned a lot since then, and while I've always tried to make my best contribution, as I read over them I actually felt embarrassed, not by what I didn't know, but by my general outlook and attitude. And in another years time I hope I feel similar about the things I do and say today. Experiencing life changes who we are to the very core, and we are always gaining more insight into our passions and interests, not only because our knowledge expands, but because life allows us to view our knowledge from different angles and a deeper understanding.
Obviously children won't see things from the same place a more matured person can, regardless of their knowledge. Of course a younger people will have different priorities and interests to an older person. It might seem like some young people get nothing out of coming to the forum. But just like living in a society allows children to slowly soak up new values and norms as their minds mature, being in our little community lets them readily take in new knowledge and understandings as their experience of life, their development allows them to. This is possible because they stay exposed to our ideas and more mature role models even if these things aren't on their minds right now.
I would rather a community that understands, supports and gently guides its young so they might develop well, and then even if they don't stay the seed has been planted for them to return to this area of interest later in life when they will see it from a different angle and want different things from it.
Obviously children won't see things from the same place a more matured person can, regardless of their knowledge. Of course a younger people will have different priorities and interests to an older person. It might seem like some young people get nothing out of coming to the forum. But just like living in a society allows children to slowly soak up new values and norms as their minds mature, being in our little community lets them readily take in new knowledge and understandings as their experience of life, their development allows them to. This is possible because they stay exposed to our ideas and more mature role models even if these things aren't on their minds right now.
I would rather a community that understands, supports and gently guides its young so they might develop well, and then even if they don't stay the seed has been planted for them to return to this area of interest later in life when they will see it from a different angle and want different things from it.
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 08:48:33
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 08:48:33
Welp, guess I am the odd man..er, woman out..[B)] I believe helping our children grow is great, but there is a line between having a healthy imagination and being totally consumed by a fantasy world! And encouraging one with the latter, will only NOT help, but push them farther into the fantasy world! They start lying to themselves and others to make the fantasy more "real". Now the one that we are obvioulsy talking about joined on the 22nd..has 89 post soooo far..26 post PER day! Most of those are full of contradictions, one minute, knows nothing, next minute, his having OOBE's. I am afraid that while he grows older he will not be able to distingish between real and fantasy and will not be able to live a productive life in society. Yes, I agree we could help..geez at first I did try..but he as proven that he is just not mature enough to get it.
I have three children. 12yr, 10yr, and one whom just turned big 3 today! I speak with my two older children in great depth about our dreams, the astral, OOBE.ect..ect..And encourage them to talk about anything and everything.
My older son was into dbz at one time but has moved on. Now he is into all the crazy video games, I personally don't care for them cause I feel they are too violent..arrrgghh! I was a little concerned that he would start developing some "anger" problems and start acting them out physically towards people. So, I sat down with him and we had a long dicussion... I wanted to make sure that he knew that it was all fantasy, and that if in the "real" world he couldn't shoot someone and then push restart...hehehehe..well, he did the typical rolling of the eyes, looks at mom like she is a crazy woman.. "duh, mom, I know that..it's not real" Whewwwww, glad to hear that.
All I am saying is, we cannot feed into his fantasy it will not help!
Now, may the reaming of my arse commence!
Nay. [;)]
I have three children. 12yr, 10yr, and one whom just turned big 3 today! I speak with my two older children in great depth about our dreams, the astral, OOBE.ect..ect..And encourage them to talk about anything and everything.
My older son was into dbz at one time but has moved on. Now he is into all the crazy video games, I personally don't care for them cause I feel they are too violent..arrrgghh! I was a little concerned that he would start developing some "anger" problems and start acting them out physically towards people. So, I sat down with him and we had a long dicussion... I wanted to make sure that he knew that it was all fantasy, and that if in the "real" world he couldn't shoot someone and then push restart...hehehehe..well, he did the typical rolling of the eyes, looks at mom like she is a crazy woman.. "duh, mom, I know that..it's not real" Whewwwww, glad to hear that.
All I am saying is, we cannot feed into his fantasy it will not help!
Now, may the reaming of my arse commence!
Nay. [;)]
Title: come on guys
Post by: clandestino on July 25, 2003, 09:01:28
Post by: clandestino on July 25, 2003, 09:01:28
quote:
the one that we are obvioulsy talking about joined on the 22nd..has 89 post soooo far..26 post PER day!
26 posts per day ?!!! madness !!
I feel tired after making just one.
At the end of the day, a forum is like TV. If you don't like the channel, then change it to another. Plus, after a while, you get a good idea who "produces the best programmes", so to speak....so you can skip through the channels you don't want to watch, no bother at all.
Title: come on guys
Post by: kibeginnersnightmare on July 25, 2003, 09:04:00
Post by: kibeginnersnightmare on July 25, 2003, 09:04:00
hi guys.
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 09:25:34
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 09:25:34
*THROWS UP ARMS* I rest my case!!
Nay.
Nay.
Title: come on guys
Post by: Tayesin on July 25, 2003, 09:27:05
Post by: Tayesin on July 25, 2003, 09:27:05
Hi people.
Do you remember being in the age group 10-18? So much was changing and so quickly, and still is. For me there was no body to ask about things I experienced, so it was a weird road to follow. Not until I was 17 did I meet anyone who even wanted to discuss possible spiritual stuff.
Here, young people can express as much of their ideas, experiences and occassional discrepencies as they wish. Haven't we all done those same things in our youth when possible? Didn't we all show too well how much we did not understand? How much we thought we did understand? And sometimes from our inexperience came a true Gem.
We all needed some form of help, whether it was constructive criticism, reassuring support, or a thousand other things including cut to the chase, wake up calls. And sometimes we still do.
Well, that is what happens in these forums, and to all of us at some time. It works well, and with the addition of a probationary membership period, you would have a forum that is little changed from this. With the exception of giving newcomers a chance to show what their intentions are before gaining full membership with full access.
It's an idea. Love always.
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 09:54:45
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 09:54:45
Tayesin..I for one think that sounds like a good idea, but I don't know how time consuming that would be [?] Have NO idea what it takes to run these forums!..
I have to admit...this kid has gotten my blood pressure WAY up there..[:O] But NOT because he is asking questions..but because he continually posts a topic in the wrong forum, types one word, then post again, types one word, then posts again, types one word, then posts again,......I mean really!!
He was warned and I am sure that he is smart enough to grasp a warning, but yet continues. I would be more than willing to help ANY aged person, but he doesn't want help...he wants attention. I know, I know, I have been guilty of posting back, but I just can't help it..hehehe. Call it my sarcastic ego!
Nay. [V]
I have to admit...this kid has gotten my blood pressure WAY up there..[:O] But NOT because he is asking questions..but because he continually posts a topic in the wrong forum, types one word, then post again, types one word, then posts again, types one word, then posts again,......I mean really!!
He was warned and I am sure that he is smart enough to grasp a warning, but yet continues. I would be more than willing to help ANY aged person, but he doesn't want help...he wants attention. I know, I know, I have been guilty of posting back, but I just can't help it..hehehe. Call it my sarcastic ego!
Nay. [V]
Title: come on guys
Post by: Tisha on July 25, 2003, 12:24:28
Post by: Tisha on July 25, 2003, 12:24:28
Regardless of age, we have the right to expect Astralpulse members to behave properly (more or less). When my daughter interrupts constantly with MOM ! MOM ! MOM ! MOM! MOM ! while I'm trying to talk on the phone, or whines, or bugs me when I'm trying to concentrate, my response is usually to send her to her room. We should not be forced to indulge this same kind of bad behavior, just because it's the Internet and they're not "our" kids.
SO! If any of you Forum members are teenaged or younger, please understand that you are with a public forum populated mostly by adults. You're welcome to participate, but we expect grownup behavior from you, much like your parents expect when they bring you to church or a nice restaurant.
As for you adults, remember "it takes a village to raise a child." So do your part! Kids don't always remember what you say, but they will always remember the way you made them feel.
I'm done with lecturing for now, have a lovely day folks!
SO! If any of you Forum members are teenaged or younger, please understand that you are with a public forum populated mostly by adults. You're welcome to participate, but we expect grownup behavior from you, much like your parents expect when they bring you to church or a nice restaurant.
As for you adults, remember "it takes a village to raise a child." So do your part! Kids don't always remember what you say, but they will always remember the way you made them feel.
I'm done with lecturing for now, have a lovely day folks!
Title: come on guys
Post by: fredhedd on July 25, 2003, 16:01:20
Post by: fredhedd on July 25, 2003, 16:01:20
nah, i'm not saying be mean. i don't want to seem that way at all. i'm more for having fun.
the first few posts i am as genuine as could be. after the twentieth post asking the same questoins, something has to give. i definetely agree w/ showing them the way blah blah blah. i was young too blah blah blah, but sometimes these kids are so young that answering the questions to the best of your ability gets you nowhere. it also gets repetitive.
not everyone on here has the patience for it. i feel that i do but i can see how it upsets a lot of others. my original intent for writing this post was to kind of tone down the hostility for them. ignoring or not posting is better than posting harsh words.
the first few posts i am as genuine as could be. after the twentieth post asking the same questoins, something has to give. i definetely agree w/ showing them the way blah blah blah. i was young too blah blah blah, but sometimes these kids are so young that answering the questions to the best of your ability gets you nowhere. it also gets repetitive.
not everyone on here has the patience for it. i feel that i do but i can see how it upsets a lot of others. my original intent for writing this post was to kind of tone down the hostility for them. ignoring or not posting is better than posting harsh words.
Title: come on guys
Post by: White Light Warrior on July 25, 2003, 17:39:12
Post by: White Light Warrior on July 25, 2003, 17:39:12
As "grown ups" it is our duty to teach and guide the "kids", otherwise how else are they going to learn. Did you never argue for the sake of it with your parents / friends even when you knew they were right?
Patience and tolerance of others is not easy for some, but the rewards are most satisfying when you can achieve them.
As for your comment in another post, "...sh**load of people that are members on the forum that have never posted...", were you never to shy to speak up in a room full of people you don't know ?
Patience and tolerance again ???
Patience and tolerance of others is not easy for some, but the rewards are most satisfying when you can achieve them.
As for your comment in another post, "...sh**load of people that are members on the forum that have never posted...", were you never to shy to speak up in a room full of people you don't know ?
Patience and tolerance again ???
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 18:03:50
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 18:03:50
quote:
As "grown ups" it is our duty to teach and guide the "kids", otherwise how else are they going to learn. Did you never argue for the sake of it with your parents / friends even when you knew they were right?
Patience and tolerance of others is not easy for some, but the rewards are most satisfying when you can achieve them.
As for your comment in another post, "...sh**load of people that are members on the forum that have never posted...", were you never to shy to speak up in a room full of people you don't know ?
Patience and tolerance again ???
*deep sigh* Alright a little tired of repeating myself but..eh, if he can do it so can I...oh, and by the way, you heard it here first..He is now under the name Kikeeper, he changed his name but not his MO...ugh..[xx(] He has posted over 130 times, just since the 22nd. He will not stop whether we respond or not. I tried being nice, ignoring and tried being sarcastic..NOTHING worked.. Perhaps under this new name he WILL change I hope so. If not..Well, why don't you, white light, take him under YOUR wing..see what you can do.
Nay.
Nay.
Title: come on guys
Post by: jilola on July 25, 2003, 18:07:17
Post by: jilola on July 25, 2003, 18:07:17
Ah so I'm not the only one with the Deja Vu [:D]
Let's hope KiKeeper does better.
2cents & L&L
jouni
Let's hope KiKeeper does better.
2cents & L&L
jouni
Title: come on guys
Post by: Squeek on July 25, 2003, 18:18:03
Post by: Squeek on July 25, 2003, 18:18:03
Ok I looked at all his posts. I can see now what angers people here the most about this guy.
1. Topics.
a. Same topic twice
b. Wrong place
2. Posts.
a. Irrelevance
b. Repetition
3. Attitude
a. "I rule, you suck"
b. "I'm the greatest"
I apologize for joining in on the "festivities" in other topics. Continuing the trend was honestly the wrong idea... I just had a bad day then. That's why I posted here. To let everyone know why this guy is bothering us all, and hopefully finding a way to resolve this issue.
Whatever course the moderators take is fine by me.
~Squeek
1. Topics.
a. Same topic twice
b. Wrong place
2. Posts.
a. Irrelevance
b. Repetition
3. Attitude
a. "I rule, you suck"
b. "I'm the greatest"
I apologize for joining in on the "festivities" in other topics. Continuing the trend was honestly the wrong idea... I just had a bad day then. That's why I posted here. To let everyone know why this guy is bothering us all, and hopefully finding a way to resolve this issue.
Whatever course the moderators take is fine by me.
~Squeek
Title: come on guys
Post by: Tisha on July 25, 2003, 18:32:58
Post by: Tisha on July 25, 2003, 18:32:58
duly noted
Title: come on guys
Post by: RandomName on July 25, 2003, 18:37:04
Post by: RandomName on July 25, 2003, 18:37:04
Nay is one of the nicest members here next to Squeek and I have been there each and every time she tried to put up with him, because at the time I was trying to keep him quiet myself. If the kid actually changed his name then I see another 3 day Silver Member pain in the butt coming.
P.S. (Violent Video Games do NOT mess up children)
Just look at me, I liked knocking the heads off of computer models with rifles and now I am talking about the New Age with people I will never meet discussing a topic that is considered "insanity in action"
[:P]
P.S. (Violent Video Games do NOT mess up children)
Just look at me, I liked knocking the heads off of computer models with rifles and now I am talking about the New Age with people I will never meet discussing a topic that is considered "insanity in action"
[:P]
Title: come on guys
Post by: Squeek on July 25, 2003, 19:57:17
Post by: Squeek on July 25, 2003, 19:57:17
Somehow I suddenly feel like I'm not the oldest guy here anymore -.- I thought Tisha was like 20 something, same with Nay, same with everyone. Then I learn about kids and marriages and I'm all like O.O
.
Suddenly I realize that I'm an "old" teenager and some of these new people are actually like 40ish :O I'm glad I never really made anyone too mad at me, and people I don't even know giving me compliments ( Thanks Psi :D )
~Squeek (Thanks for being nice to me :) )
.Suddenly I realize that I'm an "old" teenager and some of these new people are actually like 40ish :O I'm glad I never really made anyone too mad at me, and people I don't even know giving me compliments ( Thanks Psi :D )
~Squeek (Thanks for being nice to me :) )
Title: come on guys
Post by: jilola on July 25, 2003, 20:06:03
Post by: jilola on July 25, 2003, 20:06:03
Be glad. Age doesn't come alone, it brings many friends with it [B)]
2cents & L&L
jouni
2cents & L&L
jouni
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 20:17:26
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 20:17:26
LMAO!! I don't know if I should hug or body-slam you Squeek?...lol.
Too cute!
Nay. [;)]
Too cute!
Nay. [;)]
Title: come on guys
Post by: Squeek on July 25, 2003, 20:50:46
Post by: Squeek on July 25, 2003, 20:50:46
Better decide fast. The possums are gaining on us!
~Squeek
~Squeek
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 21:06:39
Post by: Nay on July 25, 2003, 21:06:39
LOL...Body Slam it is!!
Nay. [;)]
Nay. [;)]
Title: come on guys
Post by: strwrs_guru on July 25, 2003, 21:43:20
Post by: strwrs_guru on July 25, 2003, 21:43:20
i also have another problem with posting to these kids. i feel weird trying to talk to them about subjects that i consider very serious. they arent old enough to understand the implications of giving yourself over to these ideals as a way of life.
this is deep so i am going to start a new subject on this. everyone please respond as your input will be helpful to me.
this is deep so i am going to start a new subject on this. everyone please respond as your input will be helpful to me.
Title: come on guys
Post by: fredhedd on July 26, 2003, 02:25:48
Post by: fredhedd on July 26, 2003, 02:25:48
white light, i don't understand your question about my previous topic. i don't think it's relevant here but i'll address it because you brought it up.
the purpose of the 'newbies post' was to try and make those shy individuals feel more comfortable posting, which it has. it seems as though it has also helped some of them. it's obvoius that it wasn't an attack on those individuals. i really don't know what else to say about that. i don't see where patience and tolerance have anything to do w/ that. i'm sure you would be able to explain it to me though.
it seems as though half of your first contribution to this forum was wrongly questioning a post that was intended to, and probably has helped some people. if there was a smiley face making a raspberry, i would put it here for you.
i have faith in the moderators. if something gets too extreme i'm sure it will be taken care of. there is no stopping younger people from becoming members and posting what they want. you may be able to deal w/ these few instances now, but they are always going to be here. i think it would be better if there were fewer replies to the 'unwanted' posts. pointing them in the right direction once or twice is all you can do. anymore than that is just wasting energy. if there are going to be more posts than that though, they should be done in a humurous manner instead of a hostile one.
the purpose of the 'newbies post' was to try and make those shy individuals feel more comfortable posting, which it has. it seems as though it has also helped some of them. it's obvoius that it wasn't an attack on those individuals. i really don't know what else to say about that. i don't see where patience and tolerance have anything to do w/ that. i'm sure you would be able to explain it to me though.
it seems as though half of your first contribution to this forum was wrongly questioning a post that was intended to, and probably has helped some people. if there was a smiley face making a raspberry, i would put it here for you.
i have faith in the moderators. if something gets too extreme i'm sure it will be taken care of. there is no stopping younger people from becoming members and posting what they want. you may be able to deal w/ these few instances now, but they are always going to be here. i think it would be better if there were fewer replies to the 'unwanted' posts. pointing them in the right direction once or twice is all you can do. anymore than that is just wasting energy. if there are going to be more posts than that though, they should be done in a humurous manner instead of a hostile one.
Title: come on guys
Post by: Adrian on July 26, 2003, 02:54:35
Post by: Adrian on July 26, 2003, 02:54:35
Greetings,
I can understand the feelings of some members here in view of recent situations with a certain member, but it is fundamentally inappropriate to sterotype all younger members here. We have several members in the 13 to 15 range, and the vast majority of them have contributed excellently, and often well beyond their years. I have been very impressed with many of them. I also have three sons myself aged 12, 11 and 10, and they are all interested in these matters, my eldest having a high degree of interest and knowledge.
The only sensible way forward is deal with any situations as they arise as we have now done with this recent case, and other previously.
You can be absolutely sure that the high standards of the Astral Pulse will be maintained, but at the same time some situations need to be properly dealt with. We cannot and will not simply block memberships without good reason and evidence, but you can be sire that if such good reason and evidence arise, and we rely on our members for such evidence, then the member will be dealt with after due warnings. At the same time, younger members do need to learn, as we all had to learn at that age, and they will receive appropriate guidance before any action is taken.
Please be assured that myself and all the moderators will treat all potential problems very seriously, and will deal with them as appropriate.
With best regards,
Adrian.
I can understand the feelings of some members here in view of recent situations with a certain member, but it is fundamentally inappropriate to sterotype all younger members here. We have several members in the 13 to 15 range, and the vast majority of them have contributed excellently, and often well beyond their years. I have been very impressed with many of them. I also have three sons myself aged 12, 11 and 10, and they are all interested in these matters, my eldest having a high degree of interest and knowledge.
The only sensible way forward is deal with any situations as they arise as we have now done with this recent case, and other previously.
You can be absolutely sure that the high standards of the Astral Pulse will be maintained, but at the same time some situations need to be properly dealt with. We cannot and will not simply block memberships without good reason and evidence, but you can be sire that if such good reason and evidence arise, and we rely on our members for such evidence, then the member will be dealt with after due warnings. At the same time, younger members do need to learn, as we all had to learn at that age, and they will receive appropriate guidance before any action is taken.
Please be assured that myself and all the moderators will treat all potential problems very seriously, and will deal with them as appropriate.
With best regards,
Adrian.
Title: come on guys
Post by: zakaroth on July 26, 2003, 02:55:26
Post by: zakaroth on July 26, 2003, 02:55:26
I implore to you- as a 'child' of 14 dont judge me by our worst example (kibegginersnightmare) judge us by who we are and how we act- if it makes you feel better to ban all 'children' and make this an adults only forum- I feel sorry for you because you would be missing out on the brilliant points that some of us make- no you should not put up with ignorant brats who can't draw the line between fantasy and reality- but you cant just block one section of our online society- the ageism which permeates our online world sickens me almost as much as the racism and sexism that goes on outside of it- so I remind you again do not judge me by my outside appearence judge me by my values and ideas.
Title: come on guys
Post by: fredhedd on July 26, 2003, 09:26:39
Post by: fredhedd on July 26, 2003, 09:26:39
you are right adrian. i didn't mean to target young kids in general. i was more talking about the people that were too immature for this type of discussion yet. the wording came out wrong. there are people here that are very young who have contributed greatly.
nobody is being judged here. i think we are all much better than that. if there is a problem somewhere, i think everyone here understand exactly what's going on, i.e. immaturity, ignorance, whatever it is. there is no blame and i don't think anyone is being yelled at.
nobody is being judged here. i think we are all much better than that. if there is a problem somewhere, i think everyone here understand exactly what's going on, i.e. immaturity, ignorance, whatever it is. there is no blame and i don't think anyone is being yelled at.
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nick on July 26, 2003, 10:00:22
Post by: Nick on July 26, 2003, 10:00:22
quote:
Originally posted by zakaroth
I implore to you- as a 'child' of 14 dont judge me by our worst example... judge us by who we are and how we act-
Not to worry. No one here wants to be judgemental.
One of the beautiful qualities of this forum is how we all can share experiences and information regardless of age. Regards ageism, it unfortunately rears its ugly head when we get older too.
Bottom line, we are all spiritual beings and we are all ageless. Let's communicate and share with that in mind.
Very best,
Title: come on guys
Post by: Squeek on July 26, 2003, 15:31:50
Post by: Squeek on July 26, 2003, 15:31:50
How can you talk to your kids about this? (Not to prod, but to ask).
I know when I have a kid I'm gonna want to tell him/her all about this. But I just can't figure out the best way to tell him/her without him/her going to school and showing it off or the other kids mocking them.
I mean in junior year I made the mistake of telling one of my (now ex) friends that I was interested in this and was pursuing it openly. He laughed so hard and told me I was insane to beleive in such a thing. This was one of my best friends too. My other friends dismissed it as feasible and just went on their lives pretending I never told them (most of them...)
Just asking :x
~Squeek
I know when I have a kid I'm gonna want to tell him/her all about this. But I just can't figure out the best way to tell him/her without him/her going to school and showing it off or the other kids mocking them.
I mean in junior year I made the mistake of telling one of my (now ex) friends that I was interested in this and was pursuing it openly. He laughed so hard and told me I was insane to beleive in such a thing. This was one of my best friends too. My other friends dismissed it as feasible and just went on their lives pretending I never told them (most of them...)
Just asking :x
~Squeek
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nerezza on July 26, 2003, 16:20:14
Post by: Nerezza on July 26, 2003, 16:20:14
Every now and then I will look at a posters age and come to one of two conclusions:
1) Let the grownups deal with this child, you're far to immature to grasp the subject matter.
-OR-
2) Sorry pops, your time has come and gone, better retire.
I would imagine that these two reactions happen frequently, within all age groups.
As a 22 year old, I know this: I know nothing and ignorance is bliss. I cannot proclaim that I know more than a child about the spirit world, simply because as a child I was more attuned to the spirit world. I also cannot proclaim a great deal of applied knowledge when it comes to how the world and the spirtual world connect, as older people tend to focus on due to their wisdom(or lack of).
I've always hoped that heaven is like eternal childhood, because adulthood is hell. Everything is so serious and life begins to shed it's dreamlike image of days spent at the park, trading instead for the concrete cold reality of bills and jobs. Perhaps that is why we strive to become more spiritual, because it reminds us of childhood.
Granted, children are of an annoyance to me, but I would imagine that the generations ahead of me a annoyed with my age group. It seems as though the further apart age wise, the more distant we are concerning how well we understand each other.
Ok, enough rambling.
People were bringing little children to Jesus to have Him touch them, but the disciples rebuked them.
When Jesus saw this, He was indignant. He said to them, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."
1) Let the grownups deal with this child, you're far to immature to grasp the subject matter.
-OR-
2) Sorry pops, your time has come and gone, better retire.
I would imagine that these two reactions happen frequently, within all age groups.
As a 22 year old, I know this: I know nothing and ignorance is bliss. I cannot proclaim that I know more than a child about the spirit world, simply because as a child I was more attuned to the spirit world. I also cannot proclaim a great deal of applied knowledge when it comes to how the world and the spirtual world connect, as older people tend to focus on due to their wisdom(or lack of).
I've always hoped that heaven is like eternal childhood, because adulthood is hell. Everything is so serious and life begins to shed it's dreamlike image of days spent at the park, trading instead for the concrete cold reality of bills and jobs. Perhaps that is why we strive to become more spiritual, because it reminds us of childhood.
Granted, children are of an annoyance to me, but I would imagine that the generations ahead of me a annoyed with my age group. It seems as though the further apart age wise, the more distant we are concerning how well we understand each other.
Ok, enough rambling.
People were bringing little children to Jesus to have Him touch them, but the disciples rebuked them.
When Jesus saw this, He was indignant. He said to them, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."
Title: come on guys
Post by: jilola on July 26, 2003, 16:25:49
Post by: jilola on July 26, 2003, 16:25:49
I have a confession. Little children often drive me nuts. For the most part I have no clue whatsoever of how to relate to them and then one comes and bowls me over with a level of maturity that not only makes the mind boggle but sends it bowling as well.
I've completely given up hope of categorizing people according to their biological age which is, at most, a general quideline but nothing from which to draw firm conclusion.
I'd prefer to describe this forum neither as talking to children nor talking to adults but talking to souls. (I fear the grammar of that one)
PS: Do I qualify for the old geezer category?
2cents & L&L
jouni
I've completely given up hope of categorizing people according to their biological age which is, at most, a general quideline but nothing from which to draw firm conclusion.
I'd prefer to describe this forum neither as talking to children nor talking to adults but talking to souls. (I fear the grammar of that one)
PS: Do I qualify for the old geezer category?
2cents & L&L
jouni
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nerezza on July 26, 2003, 16:28:31
Post by: Nerezza on July 26, 2003, 16:28:31
PS: Do I qualify for the old geezer category?
Nope, you're fine.[:)]
Nope, you're fine.[:)]
Title: come on guys
Post by: Nick on July 27, 2003, 10:34:13
Post by: Nick on July 27, 2003, 10:34:13
There is a great little book I just finished reading called The Kybalion. It gives an overview of Hermetic Philosophy.
Something in the book I wanted to quote (in light of what's been posted above) is this:
"We are all on The Path - and the road leads upward ever, with frequent resting places."
Very best,
Something in the book I wanted to quote (in light of what's been posted above) is this:
"We are all on The Path - and the road leads upward ever, with frequent resting places."
Very best,
Title: come on guys
Post by: Adrian on July 27, 2003, 10:47:29
Post by: Adrian on July 27, 2003, 10:47:29
Greetings jilola
That is an excellent way of viewing things!
All I would say is that is might be more appropriate to say that we are talking to Spirits, it is the Mental body, the Spirit which is immortal and created in the true image of "God", The All.
It is true that when we communicate with anyone here, we really do not know how many physical lives they have experienced here on Earth, what lessons they are here to specifically learn having chosen their parents and life situation accordingly, or how far advanced they are long the path. But you are correct that we should not view these things in a temporal perspective, a 10 year old child might well have experienced a hundred more lives than the next person, and be that much further along the path - physical age is temporal and totally meaningless in that context.
And Nick, you are so right indeed to quote:
"We are all on The Path - and the road leads upward ever, with frequent resting places.". Thank you very much for that!
With best regards,
Adrian.
quote:
Originally posted by jilola
I'd prefer to describe this forum neither as talking to children nor talking to adults but talking to souls. (I fear the grammar of that one)
PS: Do I qualify for the old geezer category?
2cents & L&L
jouni
That is an excellent way of viewing things!
All I would say is that is might be more appropriate to say that we are talking to Spirits, it is the Mental body, the Spirit which is immortal and created in the true image of "God", The All.
It is true that when we communicate with anyone here, we really do not know how many physical lives they have experienced here on Earth, what lessons they are here to specifically learn having chosen their parents and life situation accordingly, or how far advanced they are long the path. But you are correct that we should not view these things in a temporal perspective, a 10 year old child might well have experienced a hundred more lives than the next person, and be that much further along the path - physical age is temporal and totally meaningless in that context.
And Nick, you are so right indeed to quote:
"We are all on The Path - and the road leads upward ever, with frequent resting places.". Thank you very much for that!
With best regards,
Adrian.
Title: come on guys
Post by: jilola on July 27, 2003, 13:40:56
Post by: jilola on July 27, 2003, 13:40:56
Nerezza: I wouldn't go as far as saying fine but I'll take what I can get [8D]
Adrian: Same thing for me. When I use the term soul I refer to the combined higher level existencies we are.
2cents & L&L
jouni
Adrian: Same thing for me. When I use the term soul I refer to the combined higher level existencies we are.
2cents & L&L
jouni
Title: come on guys
Post by: TorosDead on July 27, 2003, 23:47:14
Post by: TorosDead on July 27, 2003, 23:47:14
ACTUALLY I THINK THAT CHILDREN ARE FAR MORE ACCURATE WITH THEIR OBE'S BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T YET BEEN MENTALLY INFLUENCED BY THE WAYS OF THE WORLD. MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE THEIR STORIES INTO MORE CONSIDERATION!
Title: come on guys
Post by: ShaDoW86 on July 29, 2003, 10:43:00
Post by: ShaDoW86 on July 29, 2003, 10:43:00
Actually Toroshead, i object,, my minds been corrupted for as long as i can remeber and every kid i kno my age and down. Im 17, and no one here would guess that I am, because i d ont act like it. Well ive been reading for like a week now, and as you can see it is my first post and let me say, i duno if its me , but this site doesnt seem ever run by older ppl , but youger and immature ppl. I dunno, but thats my perspective of it. I respect my elders, because younger ppl will lie for who knows what reason. O guess what! last night i made an ultra- kinetic- powerful, i mean huge Ki shot. ya it came outa my butt, i mean things like that it gives you the silent ... O boy feeling.LOL
Hope to see you guys on, got lots of questions. Another very mportant thing i just remebered.When you have young kids... i think we should do what i have seen on other sites, a FAQ of sorts, with teckniques and stuff, you know, and then a special newBe section? sounds like a good idea to me, instead of having the rest of this place flooded with stupidity.[:D]
Hope to see you guys on, got lots of questions. Another very mportant thing i just remebered.When you have young kids... i think we should do what i have seen on other sites, a FAQ of sorts, with teckniques and stuff, you know, and then a special newBe section? sounds like a good idea to me, instead of having the rest of this place flooded with stupidity.[:D]
Title: come on guys
Post by: fredhedd on July 25, 2003, 03:08:46
Post by: fredhedd on July 25, 2003, 03:08:46
i'm amazed at how much energy is expended talking to children on this forum. it seems as though because certain ideas are typed on the net that they hold more value. if any one of these children were in a room w/ all of us claiming to do any of these things, they would be lucky to even get a listen.
some of the members here actually take a lot of time and will keep participating in these little arguments. we all know that these are kids. reasoning w/ them as if they were adults isn't going to work.
i propose some alternate routes: top on the list is to just ignore them when you see the contents of the post, if that doesn't work try being overly sarcastic w/ them instead. i've been doing it for a while now and it's loads of fun.
i don't want this to turn into 'one of those' forums as bad as the rest of you. if we keep feeding it though, it will. i'm sure one of the mods are aware of the situation and it will be dealt w/ accordingly.
also, if anyone could teach me how to levitate or shoot a
super-ultimate-high-voltage ki blast, please let me know.
thnx
some of the members here actually take a lot of time and will keep participating in these little arguments. we all know that these are kids. reasoning w/ them as if they were adults isn't going to work.
i propose some alternate routes: top on the list is to just ignore them when you see the contents of the post, if that doesn't work try being overly sarcastic w/ them instead. i've been doing it for a while now and it's loads of fun.
i don't want this to turn into 'one of those' forums as bad as the rest of you. if we keep feeding it though, it will. i'm sure one of the mods are aware of the situation and it will be dealt w/ accordingly.
also, if anyone could teach me how to levitate or shoot a
super-ultimate-high-voltage ki blast, please let me know.
thnx