Depersonalization/Derealization

[Leilah]

What do you guys think about depersonalization and derealization? Have you ever experienced it? How often does it usually occur? How do you think it relates to AP/OBE's/phasing?

You can do a search on Google if you have no idea what I'm talking about. Here's a site that was created by a person who has gone through such things first hand:

http://www.dreamchild.net/mydp.html

[MisterJingo]

What do you guys think about depersonalization and derealization? Have you ever experienced it? How often does it usually occur? How do you think it relates to AP/OBE's/phasing?

You can do a search on Google if you have no idea what I'm talking about. Here's a site that was created by a person who has gone through such things first hand:

http://www.dreamchild.net/mydp.html

I suffered from this for around 3 years and it's something I would not wish on anyone. It became quite severe with me until my dreams felt more real than reality. It's hard to explain it, but it was like my head was stuffed full of cotton wool, and I felt remote to my surroundings. It was like I was watching reality through a video camera a thousand miles away from my body. I think during this period I suffered from quite accute tunnel vision which added to it.
I could look at my hands, and they had no realtion to me. They were just hands - they could have been anyones. What made this more severe was they looked remote.
It was a battle for me to start feeling normal again.
I would say DP/DR has no inherent link with AP/OBEs, although I can see how becoming increasingly interested in them could lead to a distancing from reality and an increase in dp/dr.
After I have had a pretty intence OBE, I will feel slight overtones of dp/dr for about half a day to a day.

[AndrewTheSinger]

I don't know how much I've experienced that, but not long ago I was having very intense panic attacks (I don't usually have that) in which I felt some of the things described. I felt like I would die at any time, and it caused me to palpitate, the top of my head got ruffled (can't explain it better), then I felt like I wouldn't be able to hold on, I would either faint, die or go nuts, then I lost control of my limbs, and last my vision loses focus and darkens.

I didn't pass that stage as I held so strong not to blackout. I started taking deep breaths and trying to calm down any way I could. It happened off and on for 2 days, all during the night. It was very unpleasant, I don't wanna feel that again. Only maybe If I fell into a cage of hungry lions, it could help me escape them before they ate me alive.

[AndrewTheSinger]

Oh, I forgot to mention that I was fasting when it all happened, so I'm not sure whether it was panic or weakness attack  :confused:

[MisterJingo]

I don't know how much I've experienced that, but not long ago I was having very intense panic attacks (I don't usually have that) in which I felt some of the things described. I felt like I would die at any time, and it caused me to palpitate, the top of my head got ruffled (can't explain it better), then I felt like I wouldn't be able to hold on, I would either faint, die or go nuts, then I lost control of my limbs, and last my vision loses focus and darkens.

I didn't pass that stage as I held so strong not to blackout. I started taking deep breaths and trying to calm down any way I could. It happened off and on for 2 days, all during the night. It was very unpleasant, I don't wanna feel that again. Only maybe If I fell into a cage of hungry lions, it could help me escape them before they ate me alive.

D/p d/r is a long term condition where you experience what is described on that page 24/7 month after month, year after year. It's literally like you are removed from yourself. You taste food in your mouth, but its remote, like someone elses mouth (best way to describe it). The same with all sensory sensations. Not only that, but you really learn how much emotion and meaning we attach to objects and concepts. Such as, when I was going through this, all 'feelings' attached to days, or time of day was gone. It was just empty. Like days of the week have a certain familiar feel. It's just one more thing stripped away from you. Not only do you feel unconnected to reality and even your own body (even your thought processes feel sluggish and remote) but what you always knew as reality is taken away too. You have this memory of what you remember normality to be, and this makes the d/p d/r worse, as you strive to reach a state of connectiveness to everything which just never comes. Not only that, i'm unsure of if this perception of what I was like before this condition is actually real - or if I've just invented something more 'real' than what I was going through (it still effects me slightly now).
It really is a condition I would not wish on anyone else.
You become alien and remote to yourself, everything of comfort is washed away and replaced by nothing, you exist in a no-place.
I remember at points during its most worst, I used to have a real fear of fading into nothing. It was like I was fading, or could dissapear and something else become me. 'I' would be in oblivion yet my body would continue as me.

[Reemya]

DP/DR often go hand-in-hand with post-traumatic stress disorder, which I have. While I seem to be getting past the affects of DP/DR, I still can't shake off the memories of the hollowness that haunted me throughout it. It was as though my body was a shell—like I was wearing a "me" costume and just looking out at the world through the eyeholes. When I returned home the first time after the events that led to my PTSD, I didn't feel any connection to my home. It was just a place filled with familiar things, but I had no bond to any of it. That was one of the worst sensations—not feeling "at home" when I was at home. It was as if the world offered no sanctuary.  

Unfortunately, for me OBE became impossible during all this, as I couldn't gain the focus necessary to allow for it. Personally, I can't really see any connection to AP/OBE/phasing. Although, now that I think more on it from this perspective, you could almost say that DP/DR feels like being in between dimensions in a way—you're not totally anywhere.

[AndrewTheSinger]

MisterJingo, Reemya,

When did you notice you were suffering from that? How old were you?

The 'never feeling at home' feeling is familiar to me. I fantasise that I used to feel home when I was a kid and now I just lost it somehow, but I'm not really sure if I ever felt home.

[MisterJingo]

MisterJingo, Reemya,

When did you notice you were suffering from that? How old were you?

The 'never feeling at home' feeling is familiar to me. I fantasise that I used to feel home when I was a kid and now I just lost it somehow, but I'm not really sure if I ever felt home.

It's a long story . But I was about 16 and it involved something called HPPD (Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder) which was bought about of my misuse of LSD. The d/p, d/r was probably caused through the trauma of what I was experiencing.

[Reemya]

AndrewTheSinger,

For me this was recent, at it's worst it only lasted a few months, but I'm not prepared to say that it's behind me forever. I first noticed it toward the end of the events that led to my PTSD. I'm still trying to work through my PTSD, and this was an initial facet of it.

Namaste,
Reemya

[djvtech]

I experienced this after my first panic attack. It lasted for almost 3 days. Have had it twice after attempting to astral project. In the past few months I have had a lot of anxiety about things so I am more prone to derealization it seems. Tried to ap yesterday for once in a long time again and started getting slight depersonalization a few minutes in so I stopped and then had it for like an hour not to long after I got out of bed.