Destynee's Plan.

[Lionheart]

 On a Facebook AP Forum/group called Astral Projection there is a 16 year old girl who is very intelligent and determined to learn how to Astral Project.

She has devised a plan to take 10 people that don't know how to AP, but wish to learn and 10 people that are accomplished in AP already and match them together. Kind of like a Teacher/Student scenario.

What she needs from you, if you are interested is what time zone you live in. Then she will match people with dame time zones together.

I love this idea and wish to help this young lady achieve her goals.

If you are interested go to the Astral Projection Group and tell her.

We could also use this thread as a go between. She just found this Forum today and is liking what she sees.

Here's her plan in her own words. She updates it regularly.

I don't know if anyone would particularly like to do this. Or if this idea is even really possible from long distance. But maybe, just maybe, we could have people who can easily go into OBE help those that are trying incredibly hard to go into OBE but can't quite yet. As I said I don't know how possible it is, but I thought it would be a great experiment for this group to try. Like we could pair up people and stuff.... ^^

Destynee Autumn
From my earlier post, I stated what I would like to start and I also stated that I didn't know how well it was going to work. But, I do believe that if we can get it to work, it would help so many people. This is to try and help people who haven't astral projected, astral project by having people who know how to astral project help people that haven't or are struggling to astral project. I need at least ten people that are able to astral project very well and nine that can't (I'm including myself). If this is successful, I will add more people too this. Heck, I might make a page devoted to this to help people.
The only rules I believe are needed at the moment are these:

1) You need to be a stable participant and keep in touch with your partner.

Destynee Autumn
An Update: So, for all the people that have joined this, I have 7 People on the "Can't Astral Project list" and 2 on the "Can Astral Project" list.

So basically, I need 3 more people not able to astral Project, and 8 more Astral Projectors. If you've never taken someone out of their body and you want to help I'll see if I can get something lined up to "explain" if there is really a way to explain, it to you.

If you wish to drop out at any time please let me know before I get this thing rolling. Also, if you are concerned in any way with how I'm pairing you up, I will be trying to match you guys up best I can. IF you wish to know how I will pair you up comment below.

Thank You!

[Szaxx]

I like her ambitious idea. It does work too, the number of those showing interest who take the challenge and succeed will be interesting. I find one in five seem to be a natural once familiarised with fear controls.
Do we know who's on her team yet?

[Lionheart]

I like her ambitious idea. It does work too, the number of those showing interest who take the challenge and succeed will be interesting. I find one in five seem to be a natural once familiarised with fear controls.
Do we know who's on her team yet?

I agree. I like her ambitions here.

No, she doesn't have the team fully assembled yet.

Are you interested in joining Szaxx? I know that last time I heard from her, she only had 2 experienced people.

Since I've been here on the Astral Pulse I have always opened my door to helping someone as a Teacher/student one to one basis and I have had a couple of members here actually reach out for that help. I think it made a difference.

I would have given my left arm to have someone Mentor me on more of a one on one basis, when I first started to AP.

[Astralzombie]

I've attempted this before but I have never been successful. I don't mind participating but I would prefer to "partner up with someone 18 or older.

The last thing I want is some parent thinking that I am trying to corrupt their poor child.

[Lionheart]

The last thing I want is some parent thinking that I am trying to corrupt their poor child.

I made it well known to her that I will only do it if the person that is chosen for me is serious and will do the work that's needed.

But I think age appropriate is a valid concern as well.

I would say that anyone under the age of consent, which would be 18, should have some kind of parental consent, as well.

[roman67]

She seems very intelligent. Just tell her to join the forum.

[Szaxx]

I've done it before a lot of times an considered a night school class too.
I don't have Facebook and may not have available memory to run it.
If she signed up here the P.M. Function could be used until the update.
It's that Mohammad and the mountain moving thing.

[Lionheart]

I don't have Facebook and may not have available memory to run it.
If she signed up here the P.M. Function could be used until the update.

I think you should have an option of how you wish to correspond with your "student". Either PMs, emails or other.

Facebook is not a must, especially since she now knows this thread exists here now.

[Szaxx]

Sounds good then. I'm happy to assist her.
I had a laugh in the 80's with 2 teenagers. One was a really fast learner. They lived next door and liked some of the experiences so wanted to do it for themselves.

[Lionheart]

 This is her recent update. She is being flooded with requests. Unfortunately those are from the people that can't AP yet! 

Destynee Autumn
Hello everyone and good evening. This is an update for my project.

I have gotten numerous requests for people asking to be on the non-AP list or the list the needs help, and I don't have space for you all at the moment. I'll need more people who can AP and I have three people on that list right now. You guys who really want to do this, I'm asking for your help on finding people that would be willing to help that can Astral Project.

I'm actually trying to get myself over into the Astral Projection List to be helping people.

But, who I'm keeping on my list will depend on the factor of where the Astral Projectors are. If someone in say Russia or Japan wanted to be in the list, I would need someone on a similar time zone to help them. So, I would have to turn them down until I would be able to find people to help them.

And, I just want to make sure everyone who has asked to be on these lists is okay with me posting their names. I don't want someone who did ask freak out about their name being up there. So, if you have a problem with your name being up there, let me know. Your name will be withheld from the public.

Oh! People who want to be my friends... I just rarely accept requests from people I do know, and I don't feel comfortable accepting people that I really don't know. I've gone deep down the rabbit hole with that one, so uh yeah. Just please stop, unless I request your first. I'm not trying to be mean, I just don't feel comfortable.

But, thank you guys with all the support in this. You guys are what make this possible.

~Over and Out

[Bedeekin]

One on One is the best way... it always has been. I am already carrying about 5 people on Facebook and 10 or so on Youtube that are on and off. I may be able to find time for more.

[Lionheart]

 Thanks guys, we are helping new minds to "open"! 

[Astralzombie]

What constitutes success in her experiment? Do the partners have to successfully meet in the astral or does the newbie just have to have a successful AP?

When I said that I have never been able to do this in the past, I was referring to meeting up with someone in the astral. I've never tried to guide someone in to having their first AP but I see no problems.

I personally have given up on meeting anybody that way. Well, given up isn't the right phrase...more like little expectation of it occurring.

I am working on a brutal regiment that will "whip" my initiate into shape in under a week. I'm talking PT at 4 am and light out at 18:00 hrs. 

[Bedeekin]

IAB.. .I don't know of anybody yet who has met up in the 'astral'... apart from some anecdotes from Tom Campbell. I apologise to anyone here if I'm mistaken.

[Szaxx]

That's whats interesting about this idea. If 2 beginners make a successful trip to the RTZ then with our help they can make great progress to do it conciously, a meet could occur.

[Bedeekin]

very true.

[Astralzombie]

That's whats interesting about this idea. If 2 beginners make a successful trip to the RTZ then with our help they can make great progress to do it conciously, a meet could occur.

Especially if we don't tell them how hard it is to meet someone. Most of this is easy until we we read so many different opinions and put up all the mental blocks that wouldn't have been there otherwise.

[Lionheart]

 That sounds like an interesting concept. I did tell her though that I am not going to be in any program where we are to go and actually pulls them out of their body. For this teaches them nothing at all. They must learn how to do the actual shifting part themselves. We are just helpful coaches.

The goal is to help them learn to project period.

Then later, possibly you could attempt to meet that person in the NPR for "real".

I like the idea of helping others in this. I would really like to hear that the student would then become the teacher and "Pay it Forward".

Start a chain and let it go "Viral".

[Bedeekin]

Especially if we don't tell them how hard it is to meet someone. Most of this is easy until we we read so many different opinions and put up all the mental blocks that wouldn't have been there otherwise.

Oh god... you are so right. This is I think 80% of the reason people stumble.

[Szaxx]

A couple of weeks with a complete beginner with no previous knowledge, to be able to conciously project. Ok it was the RTZ but thats what we need. Hopefully there's only one RTZ with a few reality fluctuations. previous

[Lionheart]

Here's her most recent update. It seems like she already had the "chain" idea in mind herself! 

Destynee Autumn
So, hey guys, Another Update on the project and not about my weird experiences at the moment. This is about the goals of the group, which I've been meaning post ._. sorry!

Basically the goal of the group is this:

The success happens is when the student is able to project on their own successfully. That is when I'll ask them to help the future students if they would like to help too. I'll not force anyone. That's not the goal of the project.. I want this to help as many people as possible

[Astralzombie]

The success happens is when the student is able to project on their own successfully. That is when I'll ask them to help the future students if they would like to help too. I'll not force anyone. That's not the goal of the project.. I want this to help as many people as possible

That's good. She seemed real concern about people being in the same time zone and all. That would only be a major factor if you were trying to link up astrally.

Maybe you could tell her that time zones aren't that important otherwise. I don't mind doing this through email and better yet, get them to join! The only problem with that is all the reading they will be doing and having to sort out all their confusion.    

[Lionheart]

The only problem with that is all the reading they will be doing and having to sort out all their confusion.    

...like we have already done! 

We would just need to stress for them to try it "our" way and not to create their own expectations from what they read elsewhere.

I plan on sharing a couple of my experiences with them, but mostly the teaching would be methodology.

[Lionheart]

 From what I have seen of the current list. It is all basically kids in their teens and for that reason alone I am not interested.

I have seen already what happens, especially here, when we try to give young people "homework".

It's a shame though, I really thought this would have been a good thing.

I would be interested in doing this here with our members, if you guys are as well.

Otherwise I will just delete this entire thread.

I know that not all teens should be put into this bracket, but I also see the results of this Now Generation everywhere.

I have tried for the last 2 years straight to get through to many of them and have found very limited success.

I think that having them teaching each other, with their own generation, is the way to go.

Delete it or not? What's you answer?

[Astralzombie]

Well, after thinking about it, I'm fine with any age (within reason) so long as they are mature and sincerely interested.

The greener they are concerning techniques is better. I think you should explain to her that we're willing so long as they are serious. Even if they don't succeed, there's no foul so long as they really tried. But if it's all talk and X-Box then, meh.......

It wouldn't be fair to be in then out based on stereotypical behavior. I know I'm the one that brought the age thing up but I'm still in. It's not like I'm gonna discuss religion and whatnot. I'll be honest and warn them that success means not be able to go back to a comfy idea of the world but they're teens...hopefully they haven't made up their minds about the world anyways.