On a Facebook AP Forum/group called Astral Projection there is a 16 year old girl who is very intelligent and determined to learn how to Astral Project.
She has devised a plan to take 10 people that don't know how to AP, but wish to learn and 10 people that are accomplished in AP already and match them together. Kind of like a Teacher/Student scenario.
What she needs from you, if you are interested is what time zone you live in. Then she will match people with dame time zones together.
I love this idea and wish to help this young lady achieve her goals.
If you are interested go to the Astral Projection Group and tell her.
We could also use this thread as a go between. She just found this Forum today and is liking what she sees.
Here's her plan in her own words. She updates it regularly.
I don't know if anyone would particularly like to do this. Or if this idea is even really possible from long distance. But maybe, just maybe, we could have people who can easily go into OBE help those that are trying incredibly hard to go into OBE but can't quite yet. As I said I don't know how possible it is, but I thought it would be a great experiment for this group to try. Like we could pair up people and stuff.... ^^
Destynee Autumn
From my earlier post, I stated what I would like to start and I also stated that I didn't know how well it was going to work. But, I do believe that if we can get it to work, it would help so many people. This is to try and help people who haven't astral projected, astral project by having people who know how to astral project help people that haven't or are struggling to astral project. I need at least ten people that are able to astral project very well and nine that can't (I'm including myself). If this is successful, I will add more people too this. Heck, I might make a page devoted to this to help people.
The only rules I believe are needed at the moment are these:
1) You need to be a stable participant and keep in touch with your partner.
Destynee Autumn
An Update: So, for all the people that have joined this, I have 7 People on the "Can't Astral Project list" and 2 on the "Can Astral Project" list.
So basically, I need 3 more people not able to astral Project, and 8 more Astral Projectors. If you've never taken someone out of their body and you want to help I'll see if I can get something lined up to "explain" if there is really a way to explain, it to you.
If you wish to drop out at any time please let me know before I get this thing rolling. Also, if you are concerned in any way with how I'm pairing you up, I will be trying to match you guys up best I can. IF you wish to know how I will pair you up comment below.
Thank You!
I like her ambitious idea. It does work too, the number of those showing interest who take the challenge and succeed will be interesting. I find one in five seem to be a natural once familiarised with fear controls.
Do we know who's on her team yet?
Quote from: Szaxx on July 02, 2013, 20:47:23
I like her ambitious idea. It does work too, the number of those showing interest who take the challenge and succeed will be interesting. I find one in five seem to be a natural once familiarised with fear controls.
Do we know who's on her team yet?
I agree. I like her ambitions here.
No, she doesn't have the team fully assembled yet.
Are you interested in joining Szaxx? I know that last time I heard from her, she only had 2 experienced people.
Since I've been here on the Astral Pulse I have always opened my door to helping someone as a Teacher/student one to one basis and I have had a couple of members here actually reach out for that help. I think it made a difference.
I would have given my left arm to have someone Mentor me on more of a one on one basis, when I first started to AP.
I've attempted this before but I have never been successful. I don't mind participating but I would prefer to "partner up with someone 18 or older.
The last thing I want is some parent thinking that I am trying to corrupt their poor child. :-)
Quote from: its_all_bad on July 02, 2013, 23:46:36
The last thing I want is some parent thinking that I am trying to corrupt their poor child. :-)
I made it well known to her that I will only do it if the person that is chosen for me is serious and will do the work that's needed.
But I think age appropriate is a valid concern as well.
I would say that anyone under the age of consent, which would be 18, should have some kind of parental consent, as well.
She seems very intelligent. Just tell her to join the forum.
I've done it before a lot of times an considered a night school class too.
I don't have Facebook and may not have available memory to run it.
If she signed up here the P.M. Function could be used until the update.
It's that Mohammad and the mountain moving thing.
Quote from: Szaxx on July 03, 2013, 02:30:59
I don't have Facebook and may not have available memory to run it.
If she signed up here the P.M. Function could be used until the update.
I think you should have an option of how you wish to correspond with your "student". Either PMs, emails or other.
Facebook is not a must, especially since she now knows this thread exists here now.
Sounds good then. I'm happy to assist her.
I had a laugh in the 80's with 2 teenagers. One was a really fast learner. They lived next door and liked some of the experiences so wanted to do it for themselves.
This is her recent update. She is being flooded with requests. Unfortunately those are from the people that can't AP yet! :-(
Destynee Autumn
Hello everyone and good evening. This is an update for my project.
I have gotten numerous requests for people asking to be on the non-AP list or the list the needs help, and I don't have space for you all at the moment. I'll need more people who can AP and I have three people on that list right now. You guys who really want to do this, I'm asking for your help on finding people that would be willing to help that can Astral Project.
I'm actually trying to get myself over into the Astral Projection List to be helping people.
But, who I'm keeping on my list will depend on the factor of where the Astral Projectors are. If someone in say Russia or Japan wanted to be in the list, I would need someone on a similar time zone to help them. So, I would have to turn them down until I would be able to find people to help them.
And, I just want to make sure everyone who has asked to be on these lists is okay with me posting their names. I don't want someone who did ask freak out about their name being up there. So, if you have a problem with your name being up there, let me know. Your name will be withheld from the public.
Oh! People who want to be my friends... I just rarely accept requests from people I do know, and I don't feel comfortable accepting people that I really don't know. I've gone deep down the rabbit hole with that one, so uh yeah. Just please stop, unless I request your first. I'm not trying to be mean, I just don't feel comfortable.
But, thank you guys with all the support in this. You guys are what make this possible.
~Over and Out
One on One is the best way... it always has been. I am already carrying about 5 people on Facebook and 10 or so on Youtube that are on and off. I may be able to find time for more.
Thanks guys, we are helping new minds to "open"! :-)
What constitutes success in her experiment? Do the partners have to successfully meet in the astral or does the newbie just have to have a successful AP?
When I said that I have never been able to do this in the past, I was referring to meeting up with someone in the astral. I've never tried to guide someone in to having their first AP but I see no problems. :roll: :roll: :roll:
I personally have given up on meeting anybody that way. Well, given up isn't the right phrase...more like little expectation of it occurring.
I am working on a brutal regiment that will "whip" my initiate into shape in under a week. I'm talking PT at 4 am and light out at 18:00 hrs. :roll:
IAB.. .I don't know of anybody yet who has met up in the 'astral'... apart from some anecdotes from Tom Campbell. I apologise to anyone here if I'm mistaken.
That's whats interesting about this idea. If 2 beginners make a successful trip to the RTZ then with our help they can make great progress to do it conciously, a meet could occur.
very true. :)
Quote from: Szaxx on July 03, 2013, 16:46:10
That's whats interesting about this idea. If 2 beginners make a successful trip to the RTZ then with our help they can make great progress to do it conciously, a meet could occur.
Especially if we don't tell them how hard it is to meet someone. Most of this is easy until we we read so many different opinions and put up all the mental blocks that wouldn't have been there otherwise.
That sounds like an interesting concept. I did tell her though that I am not going to be in any program where we are to go and actually pulls them out of their body. For this teaches them nothing at all. They must learn how to do the actual shifting part themselves. We are just helpful coaches.
The goal is to help them learn to project period.
Then later, possibly you could attempt to meet that person in the NPR for "real".
I like the idea of helping others in this. I would really like to hear that the student would then become the teacher and "Pay it Forward".
Start a chain and let it go "Viral".
Quote from: its_all_bad on July 03, 2013, 17:02:10
Especially if we don't tell them how hard it is to meet someone. Most of this is easy until we we read so many different opinions and put up all the mental blocks that wouldn't have been there otherwise.
Oh god... you are so right. This is I think 80% of the reason people stumble.
A couple of weeks with a complete beginner with no previous knowledge, to be able to conciously project. Ok it was the RTZ but thats what we need. Hopefully there's only one RTZ with a few reality fluctuations. previous
Here's her most recent update. It seems like she already had the "chain" idea in mind herself! :-)
Destynee Autumn
So, hey guys, Another Update on the project and not about my weird experiences at the moment. This is about the goals of the group, which I've been meaning post ._. sorry!
Basically the goal of the group is this:
The success happens is when the student is able to project on their own successfully. That is when I'll ask them to help the future students if they would like to help too. I'll not force anyone. That's not the goal of the project.. I want this to help as many people as possible
QuoteThe success happens is when the student is able to project on their own successfully. That is when I'll ask them to help the future students if they would like to help too. I'll not force anyone. That's not the goal of the project.. I want this to help as many people as possible
That's good. She seemed real concern about people being in the same time zone and all. That would only be a major factor if you were trying to link up astrally.
Maybe you could tell her that time zones aren't that important otherwise. I don't mind doing this through email and better yet, get them to join! The only problem with that is all the reading they will be doing and having to sort out all their confusion. :-D :? :-D
Quote from: its_all_bad on July 03, 2013, 18:22:38
The only problem with that is all the reading they will be doing and having to sort out all their confusion. :-D :? :-D
...like we have already done! :wink:
We would just need to stress for them to try it "our" way and not to create their own expectations from what they read elsewhere.
I plan on sharing a couple of my experiences with them, but mostly the teaching would be methodology.
From what I have seen of the current list. It is all basically kids in their teens and for that reason alone I am not interested.
I have seen already what happens, especially here, when we try to give young people "homework".
It's a shame though, I really thought this would have been a good thing.
I would be interested in doing this here with our members, if you guys are as well.
Otherwise I will just delete this entire thread.
I know that not all teens should be put into this bracket, but I also see the results of this Now Generation everywhere.
I have tried for the last 2 years straight to get through to many of them and have found very limited success.
I think that having them teaching each other, with their own generation, is the way to go.
Delete it or not? What's you answer?
Well, after thinking about it, I'm fine with any age (within reason) so long as they are mature and sincerely interested.
The greener they are concerning techniques is better. I think you should explain to her that we're willing so long as they are serious. Even if they don't succeed, there's no foul so long as they really tried. But if it's all talk and X-Box then, meh.......
It wouldn't be fair to be in then out based on stereotypical behavior. I know I'm the one that brought the age thing up but I'm still in. It's not like I'm gonna discuss religion and whatnot. I'll be honest and warn them that success means not be able to go back to a comfy idea of the world but they're teens...hopefully they haven't made up their minds about the world anyways.
I just finally got a chance to get a message through to her.
She said that she could pair you up with someone 20+ if we were at all still interested.
I have had a problem with messages to her in the last couple of days. The problem being, she wasn't getting any of mine.
I told her to come over to this site and see and respond on this thread.
The ball is in her court now! :-)
I think this is how you reply. I'm used to this site, yeah. Anyways, I'm the one running the project. I have 4 definitely older than 20 in this project. One I think is older, but I don't know at the moment the Rest are still teenagers 15+ including myself. I know that most of you aren't going to want younger people as students, so I'm going to be assigning the older ones to you. The rest of the teachers I have gotten are alright with younger people as far as I know.
I appreciate everyone that has agreed to this. It means a lot to me and to everyone in this project. This project wouldn't be possible if no one wanted to do it. Anyways thank you all again. I'll be sending people to this forum/thread thingy. I don't know what to call it. :?
Thank you all again.
~ Over and out
Hello there Serenelylove. I'm glad to see that you decided to become a member. I previously stated that I was concerned about their age but I have since decided that their desire to learn is more important. I won't be getting too philosophical or deep into anything unnecessarily.
Feel free to partner me with whomever.
I'm glad to see someone your age trying to help others. And believe me, this is a great way to help someone.
Good luck.
Yes indeed! :-)
Let's start a chain and make it "viral"! 8-)
Hi and welcome Serenelylove.
Your idea is a good way to promote this art. There will be ups and downs so expect some.
The eagerness is short lived too in our 'I want it now' world.
It could take few weeks, it may take over a year. This should be said initially to those interested.
I don't mind teaching anyone either. They need to be dedicated to this and that is all that's required.
Hey Serenlylove.
I received mine yesternight. I'm not too fussed about the age of my student. It's just easier to instruct people older than 16... and girls are easier than boys for some reason. Anyway... I look forward to the challenge. ;)
Brilliant idea and well done for getting us to do it. :lol:
Well done to those taking up this "challenge", And it is a challenge,
My BIG concern is age, due to lack of worldly references, Even though the commitment may be there.
I agree it would have been great in my younger years to have someone experienced helping to direct me. But without all my good and bad experiences throughout my life i would not have the foundations to proceed much past the odd lucid dream.
But even then i still would NEVER have really come close to what i experience now. It would only be a shadow to what comes when your time is ready,
When you are ready it comes and theres no stopping it, "On every level of awareness".
I know we are all connected, I believe we are capable of creating something that could and does go on forever,
I believe everything is within everything, "We are the beginning", We created ourselfs,
I know there are many here who give good advice, but we still find it hard to impossible to make ourselfs understood by those closest to us, So we "hide" our "true selfs",
We may share a world with those we "love", but we "exsist" in a world few really can comprehend.
I believe we are ready for the next step, Is one on one the next step? It can only help, But I think we are on the edge of something wonderous.
So i believe with the wealth of knowledge and experience the "moderators" at astral pulse have, to turn that one on one into an open regular focus, open to all. Where many minds can all meet. To really build the foundations for those that follow.
Back to the one on one, I'll have a blond and brunette please :evil: sorry. :-D
Sunshaker, are you interested in becoming a Teacher as well?
Also, I thought we might be able to utilize Xanth's IRC Channel for one on one Chat. Here's the link to that.
https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#unlimitedboundaries
Xanth said it has a "private chat section" as well.
Good Luck all! :-)
Hey Destynee,
You can add me as a teacher, but my requirement is 20+ years of age. Everyone who is interested in learning is welcome to join the pulse, read, ask questions and learn. I agree that one on one teaching is better, so I like your idea. I am located in California, but time zone should not really matter. I am not going to try to pull someone out of their body while they are sleeping. Astral projection is not that black and white as some inexperienced people think. I would suggest a little prep work and reading general statistics about OBE to get familiarized. There are some strictly personal experiences that are different for everyone, but there are also many events related to Astral projection that are very similar in occurrence for majority of people and it would be a great homework for the newbies before we start teaching them actual techniques.
So, I got all the students who wanted to participate organize. I'll be sending them out here soon. It's in their court if they get over here. I'll explain how to make a login thing. I didn't assign myself to any of you, as I wanted everyone who was in this project to get the better teachers (I'm not saying the teachers on Facebook aren't good. I'm saying you guys probably have more reasources on this site and more knowledge to easily be passed) before I did. For everyone that wanted to be a teacher, I might have a few more people (like one or two) that might come in. But, I had enough on both sides. I paired everyone up with one and I paired you all up with people who were definietly older than 20, so anyways. I'll be getting them over here. I wish you all a Happy Fourth of July reguardless of where you are.
~Over and Out
Well for everyone that has known not many people this project gives me inspiration
I just turned 20 on june 16th and have known and read about projection since 16, my father himself and many other people i know in this physical are my proof that it is real and can be achieved by anyone.
i have not projected the most progress ive made is getting close to seperation on several occasions and throughout the years ive been constantly busy only to be able to get online and read the experiences, techniques, and theories of others.
lol can i have bedeekin as a partner :-D
he will say no
Quote from: Serenlylove on July 04, 2013, 15:09:34
So, I got all the students who wanted to participate organize. I'll be sending them out here soon. It's in their court if they get over here. I'll explain how to make a login thing. I didn't assign myself to any of you, as I wanted everyone who was in this project to get the better teachers (I'm not saying the teachers on Facebook aren't good. I'm saying you guys probably have more reasources on this site and more knowledge to easily be passed) before I did. For everyone that wanted to be a teacher, I might have a few more people (like one or two) that might come in. But, I had enough on both sides. I paired everyone up with one and I paired you all up with people who were definietly older than 20, so anyways. I'll be getting them over here. I wish you all a Happy Fourth of July reguardless of where you are.
~Over and Out
Thank You Serenlylove once again for all of your effort and hard work here! :-)
We Welcome our new "students" with open arms! :wink:
Teachers, if you don't have your student already, you will soon.
I know that Lightbeam and Bedeekin have theirs already.
The others are coming.
If you think you could handle a second one, just post that here.
There are still a couple of leftover people that are serious about learning!
Hi! I just registered on this forum! And I think Lightbeam is my teacher...
:-)
Quote from: Salander on July 05, 2013, 11:12:26
Hi! I just registered on this forum! And I think Lightbeam is my teacher...
:-)
Welcome, Salander! I am looking forward working with you. We'll have fun :-)
Hello all I have also just joined this forum for this project. I would first like to express my gratitude towards everyone's kindness and willingness on here as well as serenlylove for her part and Lionheart who will be helping me. I've been reading and interested in AP since I was 17 and am now 24. In the short amount of time I've been on here reading posts I have already learned many new things especially from the video Lionheart sent me. I am very excited about this and look forward to speaking with and hearing from everyone on this forum.
Hello and Welcome to the Astral Pulse, Matt! :-)
This is a great site to familiarize yourself with many things I will be teaching you.
Our members and Moderators here are second to none and always willing to learn and share their own personal experiences.
You are among good company! :-)
The video Matt is talking about is from Tom Campbell and I recommend anyone new to AP to watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRar8IOwic8&feature=BFa&list=PLEB923BB17E5849A3&lf=plpp_video
How is everyone coming along with their students and teachers?
Any good progress reports here?
Matt is very eager and willing to learn. I have given him daily non physical focus techniques to practice with and he has watched every video and read every article I have game him, plus he questions me about the content after he watches or reads them. I couldn't ask for more! :-)
A great friendship is being formed as well! :wink:
The other guy dropped out after I gave him the first video to watch. Obviously he wasn't really interested in learning or that interest was short "sighted".
That video was a test anyways, just to see how much he really wanted to learn. Not much, I found out! :-(
Oh well, it makes more room for others! :-)
Yeah, back in university when you wanted to major in chemistry for instance, the first intro class for majors started out with nuclear fission reactions, with equations of 20 variables. If you weren't in it for when it got a bit heavy, you weren't in it at all. That is a good strategy.
I love it when they can't even put in 1 1/2 hours of watching the most interesting stuff I've ever found on the internet... well, next to the video of a dog walking on two legs. AWWWWWWWW CUTE PUPPY!! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYaS7wSr5Vw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYaS7wSr5Vw)
What, this?
Quote from: Stillwater on July 24, 2013, 23:08:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYaS7wSr5Vw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYaS7wSr5Vw)
What, this?
http://i.imgur.com/XNxja.gif :-P
Quote from: Lionheart on July 03, 2013, 19:22:43
I would be interested in doing this here with our members, if you guys are as well.
Otherwise I will just delete this entire thread.
Personally I think it be interesting to see and Astral Pulse version of this sort of thing start up on here.
Just a couple ideas for the teams here, should you guys decide to try any of this; A little section for the partner ship project, with forum threads serving as progress journals for the pairs. A "wanted ads" areas in there too, for those that want to join and to be paired off, etc.
Quote from: Blazewind on July 25, 2013, 21:51:49
Personally I think it be interesting to see and Astral Pulse version of this sort of thing start up on here.
Just a couple ideas for the teams here, should you guys decide to try any of this; A little section for the partner ship project, with forum threads serving as progress journals for the pairs. A "wanted ads" areas in there too, for those that want to join and to be paired off, etc.
That sounds like a great idea to me. We will have to see what Xanth says about creating a Forum area just for this. Since he is the new Administrator.
I'll second the good idea.
It could have an ' ask a question area ' for various answers from the experienced.
A sort of Yahoo answers theme.
Might be worth doing this as a seperate topic as anyone can use it and we have an area with lots of answers in one place. At present these are everywhere and difficult to search and find.
It would have to be a separate Forum area. Otherwise it would get lost in the "Forum Abyss" just like all of the other topics we talk about here.
Then, we would be answering the same questions over and over and over again, like we are currently doing now! :-(
That is annoying as it is. It would be great if we could finally "nip that in the bud"! :-)
I just heard back from Lightbeam. I was hoping that she at least was having success with the Student/Teacher program.
But unfortunately her student never even contacted her to begin with. :-(
She is still optimistic and open to the plan though.
Is anyone here interested in a great Astral Teacher?
I would go back on Facebook to search, but we haven't been having much luck there.
If the Student is here on the Astral Pulse, then they have shown more willingness to learn then anyone else there already.
We were both thinking the same thing. A 'welcome to your individal questions answered', as one seperate area.
It would tidy up the repetition as each relevant question could be put into related topics in a structured manner.
The 'students union' lol, would be totally seperate and these proposed two, added by admin acceptance.
It would free up the questions that appear a little off topic.
Like the above post.
I think David and Adrian already had the idea about working closely with students to teach them how to AP. It's called the Astral Academy.
http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/forums/destynee-s-plan-f65.html
We've re-opened Destynee's Plan over on the Unlimited Boundaries Forum.
We're trying to keep things centralized and separate from AP though. So if you're interested, head on over and we'll see what we can do to help you learn to project.