So how do we make it better? any one wise enough

[kakkarot]

i think the first step is to "right" yourself, or make yourself the better person that you hope others will become. then it's just a matter of living your life and touching people's lives and helping them understand that being good isn't impossible and isn't a "worse life" than the life of someone doing evil [].

there seems to be a lot of misconception that a good person leads a harder life than an evil person, because the good person is supposedly more restricted in what they can do. but in reality, being good isn't more restricted, it's simpler and happier []. a person who is good in their soul will reflect that in their life (as opposed the the "pretender" or the "hopeful" who go through the actions but still have the internal struggle which makes their life harder).

~kakkarot

[beavis]

Earth is screwed. Nobody can fix it.

[kiauma]

Ghandi said "Become the change you want to see in the world".

You are not responsible for wht others have made of the world, but you do have control of yourself, or should - self discipline is the point of much spiritual work.  It doesn't matter how you die as much as it matters how you live.

[Tayesin]

Hi All,
Seems the consensus so far is about being the Light you are so others can see it.  The only problem with that is when you stumble and fall because you are human, others will see it as a flaw and not take the message or advice they sought.  I think that comes from putting people on pedestals when seeking advice.

What we can do to change things is quite simple, choose to change what you and I do.  Choose honesty over stealth, love over loath and lust, fairness and balance over ego driven controls, then be these things because we can.

Every person you see and meet will see the choices and the light, it may not change them but at least the seeds get planted.

The most important thing necessary for changing things is Unity.  We're not very good at it yet, LOL.  

Maybe an easier way to begin uniting all the varieties in cultures etc is to reduce the idea to a simple term.  You and I are both Human Beings.  With this focus we should be able to move out of the 'seeing the differences mode' and into seeing the Sameness.  All the differences become interesting and not threatening because we could see that the beliefs were not what was important about it.  The fact that their are differences then becomes a positive perception, instead of being seen as reasons to despise or harm others.  

Fairness.  With the wealth created on this planet, there is no 'good' reason why anyone should be starving or homeless and repressed in any way.  Maybe we can bring about fairness by knowing that since we are all the same, we all suffer at times, are all someone's relative and loved one..., the Sameness with Heart.  Show it to others and it will grow from there as a fresh sense of Compassion.

By being fair and honest, courteous and caring, we can also be free to be Human and Spirit together.  This is a pretty simplistic approach that also makes allowances for our human aspect, but I do think the simplest ways are often the most effective.

Love Always.[]

[majour ka]

Good work guys,and I agree with your sentiments. It would also make sence to to me that with such a huge following of God, that if only the reincarnation bit hadnt been removed from the bible, aparantly for the purpose of a roman tirant (thats one theory) to control her people.that the whole population of our world might look upoun or selves and each other in a different way, understand each other and our world more. It would also teach an awarnes of our own spirituality, and the truth that the mind is everlasting. It seems that just this one factore could bring everything back together and in to balance, it be easier for people to accept healing, telepathy, higher mind Karma etc, it feels like the world is slowly moving back that way, but it needs a boot up the back side!

M Ka x

[thelou]

Here are a few links.  Most of these sites are big, with allot of information.  Not sure exactly what answer you are looking for, but I hope these help.


http://whatsuponplanetearth.com/

http://www.spiritual.com.au/index.html

http://www.michaelsharp.org/

http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/library/questions.htm

http://elizabethmass.com/

http://cocreationsunlimited.com/

http://www.atlantisrising.com/archive.html

http://astrosite.com/__SandyStevenson.htm

http://www.astralpulse.com/magick/nita/nita_3.htm

http://www.paralumun.com/astral.htm

http://awakenedminds.com/

[The AlphaOmega]

Well, when you think about it, we are changing it.  It's bad today, but it takes time, a great deal of time to witness the effects.  Take all those negative things that you pointed out in your post, and realize that there are others on this world who are just the opposite.  There are people striving and working hard to fight against "wars, pollution, violence, drugs, cruelty to animals, religious dogma, more killing more wars in the name of GOD, destuction of rain forests, racism... blah blah to name a few" [].
Humanity has done a lot of evil to this world and eachother, but humanity is also trying to save and preserve life.  We live in a two sided world and I get frustrated when people focus so much on the negative.  I suppose they do so because it's the negative that they want to correct.  But the only way to fix it, is to fix it.  Getting angry at our President for going to war or cursing humanity because of the actions of a few is not going to get us anywhere.  You have to get involved and take sides in the fight for not only our rights as humans, but for the rights of all life in general.  All things are possible through God, and I doubt that spiritual beings look on us with disgust wishing they could do something about it.  In truth we are ALL spiritual beings, and their abilities are our own.  God will assist us in the fight for what's right, but we already have the tools needed.  The nature of this world is conflict.  Hell (if you believe in it) is pure negativity.  Heaven is pure positivity.  The physical dimension and the world we inhabit is the middle ground for both to exist.  Choose sides!

[jilola]

Actually having incarnated here, in these circumstances, right now, has all the relevance in the world. We chose the setting, the characters and in a way the plot of the play.
The thing where we stumble is in mistaking our failures as falling short and being negative in some way. They are not failures if we honestly try to figure out who, what and why we are.
The failures should be seen as lessons we don't yet understand. We have a set of things to learn and experience in each lifetime. We will fail some lessons and pass others but to think a failure is absolute is the only real failure.
As long as there is effort to learn and progress there are no failures.

We make it better by not focusing on the shortcomings and mistakes of others. We make it better by not focusing on our own shortcomings and mistakes. We make it better by trying to see behind them into the lesson and by trying to learn that lesson as well as we can.

Sounds like a cleverly worded rhetoric? Trite rhetoric? Pure BS? Yes, it does.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

[thelou]

No, it sounds very good.  Very true to heart.

[LogoRat]

You are not doomed to live here, this is just an experience we have chosen to experience.

You are not your physical self, its just an energystructure that is part of earth, that you now use to learn through.

If it is failure you see around you, then there is something inside that says it must be fixed. By fixing it you fix yourself.

Others are here for other purposes.. there is alot of things you can do here. Some are here to play the physical game.
Some are here to chaos things, without these chaos people.. there would not be anything to fix, and you would need to look somewhere else for stuff to fix.

There are infinite ways to see and do things.
One person might see a tiger and say "WOW" what an excellent creature and then take out his camera to take a shot.
Anotherone might say "DAMN he will eat me i must kill it" and then take out his rifle and shoot it.

Lets say earth gets destroyed and you endup in the astral.
And then you think "there must be more places like earth with people killing eachother".
You will never rest until you choose too.

Everything exist, there are infinite ways to experience the infinite.
If you choose death and destruction.. that is up to you.

You can move around helping others, earth is a good place todo that.
But you are not doomed to do so, its a choice you have made.


""Life is not the opposite to Death, Birth is...Life is Eternal.""
"Eckhart Tolle"

[majour ka]

OK here goes... im guessing most people on this forum are spiritualy aware or becoming so, so we incarnate in this life to the parents we chose for our own particular purposes (irelivent) we then realise that the world and humanity is in a bit of a MESS !! wars ,pollution, violence, drugs, cruelty to animals, religous dogma, more killing more wars in the name of GOD!..whats that all about!, destroying the rain forests, racism!.....blah blah to name but a few, but its our own fault. Because in previous lives we where the people who made this mess or at least got the ball rolling ( my apologies to those souls who are new or incarnated from other planetary systems, mmm maybe they came to help!). Any way when we laeve this life and join our friends in the Astral who are equaly distressed about the whole situation, not only because we end up back here in what ever state we laeve it now but the planetery energy systems are rocking not only our dimension but the next, because it exists so closley to ours. Theres no getting away from it.

The spiritual way is not to preach to the those who are not ready to become aware, but gently plant a seed for them to follow if they wish.

So how can we fix it? or at laest make a relavent impact in this life??? bring it people.

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