Just curious, wondering how far you could go in your astral body before it gets too far. :?
Every time i try to go into 'space' from the ground, i either get scared or my vision blacks out before i can reach whatever is out there
I remember one memorable experience where i was on an open grass field and there was this rope dangling down from the sky, i climbed up then i poo'd myself a little then it went away.
Sounds like an interesting story :-)
I've been helped by my guides into outer space, they draw me up, hand-in-hand. I've seen lots of galaxies swirling around me.
Once I saw Earth from above but the looks was different. It looked a bit sick. It wasn't blue anymore but rather brownish. There were also energetic gridlines around it. I guess I have looked at it from another dimension or whatever.
I plan to do it again soon and look at it like an astronaut would see it, from a physical plane, so to speak. (I've already announced this to my guides and "registered" for the next field trip into space. Fingers crossed. :lol: )
I haven't been to other planets, like on the surface per se. But I do a flyby of different planets occasionally.
I am planning for a trip into deep space. Scientists discovered some kind of signal coming from near the center of the Milky Way galaxy. I want to use AP to go that way and check it out to see if I van maybe visit what is making this signal. To, you know, see if it is a pulsar or something else.
I've been to an entirely different realm, where it is always evening. Dead souls walk around, the sky is red, and the realms entire aura is red. The dead souls that walk around don't even realize that they're dead, and walk around just like any human being would. It's actually a peaceful and warm place.
I keep seeing a re-occurring theme of people experiencing things that others have mentioned before, the typical "Earth is sick", "Where the dead walk around but don't know there dead"
How many times have we heard that before?
Quote from: Leo on April 27, 2014, 02:55:00
Just curious, wondering how far you could go in your astral body before it gets too far. :?
There is no distance.
Quote from: AJDIN on April 28, 2014, 01:08:35
I keep seeing a re-occurring theme of people experiencing things that others have mentioned before, the typical "Earth is sick", "Where the dead walk around but don't know there dead"
How many times have we heard that before?
I said it
looked sick and that was just a personal impression. Not sure if that was the real reason it looked so 'brownish'.
Quote from: AJDIN on April 28, 2014, 01:08:35
I keep seeing a re-occurring theme of people experiencing things that others have mentioned before, the typical "Earth is sick", "Where the dead walk around but don't know there dead"
How many times have we heard that before?
It's a common place to be. How many people die in a day? In a year? That's why places like this are so "prevalent". And actually, the place I'm referring to is not earth. It is no where near earth. It has an entirely different aura than Earth, lol.
Quote from: Xanth on April 28, 2014, 01:47:42
There is no distance.
There's a time limit though, but time in the astral can be easily changed.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 28, 2014, 20:18:12
There's a time limit though, but time in the astral can be easily changed.
Let me ask you this: can you, as a consciousness, directly experience the past or future?
This is where I'm still having trouble, should I go about the day saying to myself I'm going to outer space then astral project at night? Or wait till I've projected then put my intentions on outer space? I know I'm making it way too hard on myself but I is who I is lol
Quote from: Rachael Hicks on April 28, 2014, 21:09:51
This is where I'm still having trouble, should I go about the day saying to myself I'm going to outer space then astral project at night? Or wait till I've projected then put my intentions on outer space? I know I'm making it way too hard on myself but I is who I is lol
It never hurts to have a firm Intent *BEFORE* (duration before doesn't matter) you project. Just make sure that it is *THE* thing on your mind.
Thanks for all the replies! The next time I get out of my body and am able to consciously control it, i'm going to check out the Pleiades star cluster first hand.
Thanks, since I've put a loop on a track I got from Monroe and a track I got from raditus, I've been able to phase/ ap quickly and every time I play it I seem to be able to visit the non-physical. So now I know I can ap when I want, but I need to be able to go where I want. Am I the only person that has a hard time of this lol? I think the truth is I'd love to go anywhere. So my intent is anything. I need to really pick a destination. Just I don't have a clue where I want to go? Maybe I'll try going to Egypt to see how the pyramids were made, that's always interested me. That or I'd like to see a past life of mine. I'm going to work on my intentions, I'll post if I have a break through. I did wake up the other morning in a hotel room instead of my bedroom! Yay! When I went downstairs there was a convention going on and people everywhere. That was a first. I loved the experience, the people there lived like we do here, well except some of the booths had moving fairies and knomes. But I don't know what I was supposed to have learned from it. I guess sometimes there isn't a lesson, and with that there's the lesson. :-D
Quote from: Rachael Hicks on April 29, 2014, 22:40:13Maybe I'll try going to Egypt to see how the pyramids were made, that's always interested me.
Haha, cool, let's go together then. :wink: I have this on my list too (and the Sphinx which I suspect to be even older). :-)
Quote from: Volgerle on April 30, 2014, 11:56:32
Haha, cool, let's go together then. :wink: I have this on my list too (and the Sphinx which I suspect to be even older). :-)
I third this statement. I am very intrigued by ancient Egypt. If either of you guys ever go there and find out, please message me right away with your findings! lol
I went lucid this morning, and Egypt was in my backyard with the Sphynx and all but I woke up, it lasted 30 sec in total
Quote from: Fusions on April 30, 2014, 16:53:24
I went lucid this morning, and Egypt was in my backyard with the Sphynx and all but I woke up, it lasted 30 sec in total
And that illustrates perfectly how even with a strong Intent, things can get messed up.
The sphinx was there before the pyramids. It's totally different today. Have a look underground too. I hope you find something on one of the sides underground.
Quote from: Szaxx on April 30, 2014, 21:35:59
Have a look underground too. I hope you find something on one of the sides underground.
...under the right paw! :wink:
That sounds like a plan lets all go together, I'll set my intentions to Egypt during the making of the sphinx. Maybe we all will meet up at the same time. I'd have to research to see an exact date though lol. I don't know much about history, I didn't pay much attention in school. But I don't even recall being taught much about the pyramids anyways. :-D
Lionheart what's under the right paw? Tell me tell me tell me, please I feel like I'm 5 and I'm trying to figure out my Christmas presents. Lmao, I wanna know so bad it hurts a little. You could at least give me hint... :-D :-D :-D :wink: :wink:
Quote from: Rachael Hicks on April 29, 2014, 22:40:13
Maybe I'll try going to Egypt to see how the pyramids were made, that's always interested me.
This one is on my list too, but I am afraid my thoughts are already influenced by the movie "The Mummy" and I will end up chased by Imhotep LOL
Quote from: Xanth on April 30, 2014, 17:24:03
And that illustrates perfectly how even with a strong Intent, things can get messed up.
I am sorry, what are you saying?
And just so you know, the higher your energy is, the longer a distance you can go. But I've seen people who have gone too far or who have stayed in the astral for far too long, and have ended up losing their bodies.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 01, 2014, 21:16:06
And just so you know, the higher your energy is, the longer a distance you can go. But I've seen people who have gone too far or who have stayed in the astral for far too long, and have ended up losing their bodies.
:? :? :?
Pray tell, explain this further please! :?
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 01, 2014, 21:16:06
And just so you know, the higher your energy is, the longer a distance you can go. But I've seen people who have gone too far or who have stayed in the astral for far too long, and have ended up losing their bodies.
I'm gonna go ahead and second Lionhearts confusion...
WTF? :? :? :-o
Perhaps you really meant to say... they lost their minds.
Your comment is impossible. Imagine going to work and not getting there because you lost your body.
I had a really good laugh when I read that, and another trying to put across how the comment sounds.
I'm still laughing...
Quote from: Szaxx on May 01, 2014, 23:15:46
Perhaps you really meant to say... they lost their minds.
Your comment is impossible. Imagine going to work and not getting there because you lost your body.
I had a really good laugh when I read that, and another trying to put across how the comment sounds.
I'm still laughing...
Lol, its not that hard to lose your body, unless you've never really been that far. The astral is bigger than you think, and everything is easier thank you think, including getting lost. You seem to be forgetting that you're not with your body while projecting and then traveling. Some people claim that it's impossible to get lost because of some kind of "silver cord" or whatever. Well apparently not everyone has this "cord" because I don't have one, nor do the people that i travel with. Of course your skepticism is understandable, though. I'm told that I haven't a clue what I'm talking about because I'm only 16 years of age. But the truth is, age is not related to experience.
AAAAAA I've been around far longer than you and ALL of that time projection has been active. If you had 1000+ experiences you'd understand far more. No human can grasp the immensity of the wider reality. Our minds are not even working in the same ballpark. I would suggest you do your best to allow the process to teach you more of what you need to know the next time you are successful.
You can do this easily once aware. Simply pull out of the experience into the void and demand an experience to show you what's required. I hope you can do this simple task. It will yield results that'll amaze you.
At your age I already had 12+ years of experiences and some of these were very emotionally challenging.
Being alone with learning the art and it's extra 'gifts' placed me in some difficulties over the reality of reality itself. Daytime was mundane and nighttime was crazy with it's adventures. Eventually this craziness followed on into the physical world. I mastered it and hopefully can do this until my time is up.
You do have some experience but it's extremely limited, this shows in your posts.
I know you mean well too, which is good to see.
Another 20 years and you'll read these early posts and chuckle.
A tip for you,
Take the wood out of the forest before you light the fire. A simple gust of wind can burn the forest if you fail to do this.
Contemplate from experiences YOU have, not from others. Your perception isn't their perception my friend. :wink:
Quote from: Szaxx on May 02, 2014, 06:47:53
AAAAAA I've been around far longer than you and ALL of that time projection has been active. If you had 1000+ experiences you'd understand far more. No human can grasp the immensity of the wider reality. Our minds are not even working in the same ballpark. I would suggest you do your best to allow the process to teach you more of what you need to know the next time you are successful.
You can do this easily once aware. Simply pull out of the experience into the void and demand an experience to show you what's required. I hope you can do this simple task. It will yield results that'll amaze you.
At your age I already had 12+ years of experiences and some of these were very emotionally challenging.
Being alone with learning the art and it's extra 'gifts' placed me in some difficulties over the reality of reality itself. Daytime was mundane and nighttime was crazy with it's adventures. Eventually this craziness followed on into the physical world. I mastered it and hopefully can do this until my time is up.
You do have some experience but it's extremely limited, this shows in your posts.
I know you mean well too, which is good to see.
Another 20 years and you'll read these early posts and chuckle.
A tip for you,
Take the wood out of the forest before you light the fire. A simple gust of wind can burn the forest if you fail to do this.
Contemplate from experiences YOU have, not from others. Your perception isn't their perception my friend. :wink:
"Being around" for a longer period of time doesnt mean anything when it comes to experience. I wonder, how far exactly have you been, and for how long?
You will also learn more. i've posted about the grand clocks before,but if you havent been there already,go and visit. You will learn a lot just from going there and watching the clocks as time goes by.
Quote from: Szaxx on May 02, 2014, 06:47:53
AAAAAA I've been around far longer than you and ALL of that time projection has been active. If you had 1000+ experiences you'd understand far more. No human can grasp the immensity of the wider reality. Our minds are not even working in the same ballpark. I would suggest you do your best to allow the process to teach you more of what you need to know the next time you are successful.
You can do this easily once aware. Simply pull out of the experience into the void and demand an experience to show you what's required. I hope you can do this simple task. It will yield results that'll amaze you.
At your age I already had 12+ years of experiences and some of these were very emotionally challenging.
Being alone with learning the art and it's extra 'gifts' placed me in some difficulties over the reality of reality itself. Daytime was mundane and nighttime was crazy with it's adventures. Eventually this craziness followed on into the physical world. I mastered it and hopefully can do this until my time is up.
You do have some experience but it's extremely limited, this shows in your posts.
I know you mean well too, which is good to see.
Another 20 years and you'll read these early posts and chuckle.
A tip for you,
Take the wood out of the forest before you light the fire. A simple gust of wind can burn the forest if you fail to do this.
Contemplate from experiences YOU have, not from others. Your perception isn't their perception my friend. :wink:
What do you mean go into the void? Fly into space?
Btw, it would be nice if you can do a post on the daytime being mundane and how the craziness followed you into the physical.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 02, 2014, 00:56:38
Lol, its not that hard to lose your body, unless you've never really been that far. The astral is bigger than you think, and everything is easier thank you think, including getting lost. You seem to be forgetting that you're not with your body while projecting and then traveling. Some people claim that it's impossible to get lost because of some kind of "silver cord" or whatever. Well apparently not everyone has this "cord" because I don't have one, nor do the people that i travel with. Of course your skepticism is understandable, though. I'm told that I haven't a clue what I'm talking about because I'm only 16 years of age. But the truth is, age is not related to experience.
What if I told you that even at this very second while physically awake and aware that you're not *in* your body?
What if I told you that these physical bodies are no different than, say, a robot we send to Mars?
In regards to age... it has it's benefits of gained experience.
For example, for things I don't expressly know about, I'll trust Szaxx's decades of experience over someone who has little to no experience. That's just the way it works. :)
Learn from those with greater experience... but at the same time, realize that it's THEIR experience and not YOURS and work towards gaining your own.
AAAAAA when time permits I'll PM you some experiences in very brief detail.
The void is that 3D blackness inbetween wake, sleep the astral and many other states of concious awareness.
Quote from: Xanth on May 02, 2014, 15:46:17
What if I told you that even at this very second while physically awake and aware that you're not *in* your body?
What if I told you that these physical bodies are no different than, say, a robot we send to Mars?
In regards to age... it has it's benefits of gained experience.
For example, for things I don't expressly know about, I'll trust Szaxx's decades of experience over someone who has little to no experience. That's just the way it works. :)
Learn from those with greater experience... but at the same time, realize that it's THEIR experience and not YOURS and work towards gaining your own.
I hope you're not referring to me as having little to no experience. Of course, if you are, that's fine and all, but I should probably be clear that I probably have more experience than you'd expect. Maybe not a lot, but a lot more than what you seem to think. And this will be the third time I've said this, physical age is
irrelevant. Soul age is MUCH more beneficial than being an older human. In fact, being a human in general is... a downfall as far as experience goes. And Szaxx, I am well aware of what the void is. I can close my eyes, and be within this "void" within seconds.... But still, please PM me sometime, it will not hurt me to read :) I will also share some experiences I've had, with you. Perhaps both of us can learn a little bit about the astral in general, I'd be happy to have a discussion with you.
Fusions asked about the void, sorry for the confusion.
Ok on the PM, this will entertain us both.
Thanks lightbeam lmao, now I'm too dreading a wrapped dummy :-D :-D :-D
AAAAAAAA , quit getting so defensive, Szaxx is trying to help you.
You should adopt the beginner mind set at all times, and not get wound up on 'how far have you gone' or 'how experienced are you'
All that is just noise, my take on the discussion at hand is that there is no 'how far' or how 'experienced', these ideas are a manifestation
of human observation, experiences should be taken with a grain of sand, and if beneficial - shared with one another to open up perceptions
of those who have not thought to experience such sensations.
Quote from: AJDIN on May 26, 2014, 05:41:11
AAAAAAAA , quit getting so defensive, Szaxx is trying to help you.
You should adopt the beginner mind set at all times, and not get wound up on 'how far have you gone' or 'how experienced are you'
All that is just noise, my take on the discussion at hand is that there is no 'how far' or how 'experienced', these ideas are a manifestation
of human observation, experiences should be taken with a grain of sand, and if beneficial - shared with one another to open up perceptions
of those who have not thought to experience such sensations.
No one is defensive my friend. I've posted worse, lol. But a question for you: why always adopt a beginner mindset? Wouldn't you want to apply the knowledge that you already have? Isn't that why there are other people on this forum who teach "beginners"through their experiences? I'm just curious, that's all.
Because you don't get trapped into the illusion when you think you may know it all
Quote from: AJDIN on May 26, 2014, 06:44:59
Because you don't get trapped into the illusion when you think you may know it all
No one thinks they know it all. We just share experiences. Personally, though, i would choose to work with the knowledge that i already have. No one has to like it. Doesnt affect me in the least. Besides, if someone actually knew everything, their freaking head would explode L0L.
Being that I haven't AP yet, there's not much that I can say, but I am getting a feeling which I will speak on. I feel there is a slight hint of ignorance and with that ignorance denial of it. Now that being said, it's not to insult or to discredit any experiences, but to open your mind up to the possibility you may have interpreted or received the wrong information through them. Yes you had the experience, but did you truly understand what it taught you? Even the oldest of us can learn something simple for the youngest and vise versa. It doesn't matter if you earth age is older, or your soul age is. You are you and not them, you don't know what they have to offer and they don't know what you have to offer, so don't discredit their knowledge and claim to have the right answer, instead take a look at what they say, think on, compare to what you believe. There doesn't always have to be one right answer.
Quote from: Ellury on May 26, 2014, 21:35:18
Being that I haven't AP yet, there's not much that I can say, but I am getting a feeling which I will speak on. I feel there is a slight hint of ignorance and with that ignorance denial of it. Now that being said, it's not to insult or to discredit any experiences, but to open your mind up to the possibility you may have interpreted or received the wrong information through them. Yes you had the experience, but did you truly understand what it taught you? Even the oldest of us can learn something simple for the youngest and vise versa. It doesn't matter if you earth age is older, or your soul age is. You are you and not them, you don't know what they have to offer and they don't know what you have to offer, so don't discredit their knowledge and claim to have the right answer, instead take a look at what they say, think on, compare to what you believe. There doesn't always have to be one right answer.
If you want to look at it that way, we are all ignorant rats, lol. Besides, soul age is more beneficial than body age. And in fact, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm not saying that anyone is straight up wrong. If I were here to do that... I wouldn't waste time having conversations with them.
As a bonus statement, I will now tell you what I feel. If one does not understand an experience, it really didn't teach them anything, at least not on the conscious level. Experiences that seem not to make sense, or are not easily understood when they happen are usually lessons that are learned in time. And yes, I am saying that this is just my experience, it could be different for everyone else. Apparently I have to mention that in every post or someone will call me ignorant. But it's true, after all, we're all ignorant.
Being called ignorant isn't something to be offended, since all in means is a lack of knowledge or awareness on something particular. : ) We are all ignorant about something. I just wanted to point out the age thing, because I remember often times hearing adults when I was a child saying things like "I'm suppose to be the one teaching them, but they surprise me every day and I end up learning from them instead" and yeah, they may be old on earth, but that doesn't make their soul age young. Anyway, what I said wasn't directed at you only, it was in general said to everyone watching this topic.
I don't want to sound like I'm trying to argue or anything, so this will be the last thing I say in regards to this topic.
Quote from: Ellury on May 26, 2014, 23:44:59
Being called ignorant isn't something to be offended, since all in means is a lack of knowledge or awareness on something particular. : ) We are all ignorant about something. I just wanted to point out the age thing, because I remember often times hearing adults when I was a child saying things like "I'm suppose to be the one teaching them, but they surprise me every day and I end up learning from them instead" and yeah, they may be old on earth, but that doesn't make their soul age young. Anyway, what I said wasn't directed at you only, it was in general said to everyone watching this topic.
I don't want to sound like I'm trying to argue or anything, so this will be the last thing I say in regards to this topic.
Oh, i didnt think you were arguing, i was actually agreeing with you XD theres too much information in our universe alone for someone not to be ignorant about something.
I can't wait to join these conversations properly! Space is my biggest endeavour .. once i learn to project I'll be rising up and viewing the earth from the outer atmosphere and just to see the sheer vastness of the sun in relation to earht fascinates me beyond belief, the ultimate destination at this level of travel is to view the storm on Jupiter ... oh my goodness :)
I have heard of these kinds of things and have always been so intrigued. How long did it take you to be able to travel?
Quote from: tabytha on May 29, 2014, 17:35:14
I have heard of these kinds of things and have always been so intrigued. How long did it take you to be able to travel?
you are already doing it when you dream
Quote from: Fusions on May 29, 2014, 19:34:40
you are already doing it when you dream
so what you are saying is when we dream any kind of dream lucid or not..we are actually APing?
Quote from: tabytha on May 29, 2014, 20:25:34
so what you are saying is when we dream any kind of dream lucid or not..we are actually APing?
You might not believe or understand it right now, but there is no separation between "here" and "there" in consciousness. Consciousness is consciousness.
This physical reality is every bit a "projection" as a dream is... or a lucid dream... or an astral projection...
The only thing that separates these experiences are perception and awareness. A projection is simply a dream where you have the same awareness you have right now while you believe you're physically "awake".
People love to overly complicate the matter with grand definitions and descriptions such as planes of existence and different bodies (astral, mental, etc). They're all just metaphors describing an experience where you're consciously aware you're somewhere other than this physical reality.
Quote from: Fusions on May 29, 2014, 19:34:40
you are already doing it when you dream
:-o That reminded me of this awesome dream when I was a little kid! I flew, using my body over some kind of planet. it was nearly like Mars, but wasn't. Sedoch 3, was either the name of the world or the base I flew over. Some people were outside, dressed in black clothing. Their helmets were black, resembling the fully enclosed motorcycle helmets. They were outside and doing some sort of scans for repairs of different parts of the base or something. So reading this means that I could have projected to this place, this Sedoch 3?
I attempted to visit Saturn once. I found myself standing on top of the particles of ice and rock that make up its rings. I could actually step from particle to particle, rather gracefully, without the threat of falling off and floating away. It was a very majestic experience, however, the boundlessness of the surrounding space scared the crap out of me.
Quote from: Xanth on April 28, 2014, 20:48:11
Let me ask you this: can you, as a consciousness, directly experience the past or future?
Yes, you can do it. As a consciousness.
Quote from: ostatni_enterol on June 20, 2014, 20:02:22
Yes, you can do it. As a consciousness.
I second this. I would also argue, though, that the past as well as the future is just as close to us as the present is.
Quote from: ostatni_enterol on June 20, 2014, 20:02:22
Yes, you can do it. As a consciousness.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on June 20, 2014, 21:21:56
I second this. I would also argue, though, that the past as well as the future is just as close to us as the present is.
I'm sure one of you could explain how then?
Quote from: Xanth on June 20, 2014, 21:24:04
I'm sure one of you could explain how then?
Well have you ever "replayed" an experience in the astral? Apart from that, time is pretty much just a measurement of how we get old and the like. Time is subjective, believe it or not.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on June 21, 2014, 00:02:29
Well have you ever "replayed" an experience in the astral?
I figured you were going to say that. hehe
That's not directly experiencing in the same sense as you are experiencing the NOW now.
*YOU* (the consciousness you) can only ever DIRECTLY experience "NOW". It's impossible for you to experience outside of NOW.
You may, as you point out, replay experience outside, but that's no better than a memory, as I mentioned.
QuoteApart from that, time is pretty much just a measurement of how we get old and the like. Time is subjective, believe it or not.
Yes, time is subjective. No arguments there. "Time" is a metaphor which helps us describe our experiences before and after "NOW".
Quote from: Transcendus on June 10, 2014, 16:11:34
I attempted to visit Saturn once. I found myself standing on top of the particles of ice and rock that make up its rings. I could actually step from particle to particle, rather gracefully, without the threat of falling off and floating away. It was a very majestic experience, however, the boundlessness of the surrounding space scared the crap out of me.
The only 'problem'(Not to sound negative) i have with this is that i would assume you had some sort of conception of what Saturn was before you experienced it metaphysically right? The way you described how the particles of ice and rock that make up the rings seems like hearsay evidence.
Yes it has been scientifically observed to be true(Assuming your right, i don't know what makes up the rings), but have you yourself experienced what it is really like in this objective reality we live in?
In 1969 the books said it was probably dust. The Cassini division was a mystery. My visit showed many rings and small rocks rather than dust made up for most of what I saw. The more recent probe gave pictures matching what I saw.
This verified my experience decades later.
It was worth the wait :-D
I AP'ed recently and went to this one world during their evening hours. There was heavy cloud cover and this guy was standing around, watching something. I came up to him watch with him. there is a thing, like a Ocean Whirlpool, but in the sky, in the clouds! He told me that this planet is just coming into range of a black hole. Planets that just come into range, their atmosphere's are the first to get snagged. Anything that comes too close to the whirlpool, will get sucked up into it. Biological Life will die before their corpse ends up in the black hole, for the strain of atmosphere leading to the black hole is too thin, leaving the organic being still at the mercy of the laws of outer space.
Then he and I Left this place, because there was nothing else left to do here. It was a a world truly and inevitably marked for death!