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Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: jilola on October 29, 2002, 12:11:54
Have heard of it.
The industrious Finnish customs service just classified it as a drug and are prosecuting some folks for importing it. Previously it was allowed if one had a recipe.

2cents

jouni
Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: Tom on October 29, 2002, 12:35:14
Even if it works, should we use it? Would it be just the thing I need to establish an ability to project? There was another thread here on this, but I seem to recall it got off topic.


Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: jilola on October 29, 2002, 12:38:55
I'll pass on  the psychoactives.
I want my OBEs without chemical asistance or not at all. I think AP is a skil to be learned on the spiritual path and useing a plant would then be cheating.

2cents

jouni
Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: Tom on October 29, 2002, 12:45:09
It is not possible to cheat reality. Either the plant works or it does not. If it works then it can be used for a purpose. If it does not work, then there is nothing to discuss. My concern is for the price tag. Is it worth its price, not just for its purchase but for its use?


Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: Arie on October 29, 2002, 15:30:45
Yeah....I heard of this plant.  When you hear of the experiences of people using this plant.....one things comes to mind....No Control.  You have absolutely no control over the experience.  I have heard of people turning into walls and trees etc.  I don't know about you guys but I don't feel like for my first obe....turning into a wall.

Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: MartyD on October 29, 2002, 17:03:15
I heard of this plant a couple of months ago. It's dirt cheap, if I remember rightly it's something like £15 an ounce, figure that out in $$$. You can also get concentrated like more pure forms of it, the extract, but I wouldn't go any where near it. Maybe the leaf, but no the extract.

-martin-
Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: social on October 29, 2002, 21:32:59
All of the purified concentrated extracts of this plant are total rubbish. If you want real information, with the highest quality, check out www.sagewisdom.org

It contains all the information you'll ever need on the plant. Including scientific research, which you'll notice the other sites are lacking. If your really interested in this herb this is the only place I can reccomend. And to put it bluntly, you'd be a fool to go anywhere else.

Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: astralmaster on October 30, 2002, 04:36:41
Has anyone ever tried this plant? what was i like?




David
Title: Herb for inducing OBE
Post by: astralmaster on October 29, 2002, 12:06:42
just stumbeled accross this site that claims a plant by the name of Salvia Divinorum , has been used for many shamanic uses.
there is a site called http://www.lucid-dragon.com/
that sells the product and i also found http://www.salvia-divinorum.org/
that has a lot of info and links about the plant.

Please let me know if any of you have heard or tryed it.



David