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what happens when one drops the ego completely?

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sqprx

Will he/she become gullable and naive, and wll be made fun of and taken advantege of because he/she is a silly smiling lunatic handing out flowers at the airport because he/she loves all humanity? Because, because, you know, she/he is made of unconditional love


mcdwg

Liberation liberation but yeah he/she would seem weird to everyone else, but i think it's impossible to completely drop the ego

Xanth

You don't drop the ego.  You learn to exist THROUGH the ego.
The ego is the only thing that keeps your physical body alive... it's what tells you to eat... to reproduce... etc...
If you completely lost your ego, you would cease to exist physically.  It's a part of THIS reality.

So, instead of losing it... you exist THROUGH it.  You accept it in yourself... but more importantly, you accept it in others.  :)

What this means is that you accept yourself as you are... and more importantly, you accept others as they are too. 

What's the end result?  A lot less suffering... because when you accept everything as it is, you're no longer trying to control anything. 
Everything that then happens... just "is".

no_leaf_clover

I agree with Xanth, that it seems more immediately useful to hold on to what you find beyond the ego and just let it kind of integrate and remain as a kind of presence "behind the mask" so to speak.

On the other hand I've seen some of these apparently naive people you're talking about.  I've probably seemed the same way to people before in certain situations (-- with secret help from secret allies).  To someone else they may seem naive while "being taken advantage of" or etc., but they might be having a completely different experience, be seeing the entire external reality as 1 being and the act of "being taken advantage of" as some sort of communion and communication with the divine.  Then say they get "cheated" out of a few dollars or something by some street scam artist, for example, and they're sitting there afterward just as wide-eyed as before, and people may be cracking jokes about them while their mind was just blown from seeing some intimate part of God through the life of the scam artist.  Could easily be worth a couple of bucks.  :P
What is the sound of no leaves cloving?

Kzaal

This reminds me so much of a guy I used to know in my high school years. He was always with that smile and I could not even understand it when I was young. Even if people laughed at him sometimes and made a few jokes, it never seemed to bother him.
It may have affected him when people were joking around him but few minutes later he was back with his smile. And yet he was like 6'2" lol he could've easily defended himself but he never raised his hand on anyone.
Never insulted them back either, never got in a fight.
Unfortunately this is all I remember. Back then I had no idea about spiritual development and every time he was talking to me I never seem to catch what he really meant.
He talked about simple stuff but always seemed to be amazed by all small things. He didn't seem to have any problems in school either his grades were good I think.
He just seemed like someone with no problem at all, yet he was very different from all of us.
But here I stand and I'm talking about him yet I didn't really know who he was. So I guess he made quite the impression on me if it's been 10 years and I still remember him as clear as when I met him.
This type of person understand very simple things that we don't always seem to grasp because we've either been lied at too many times and our ego has taken over.
I have huge respect for theses person because they seem to be as a spectator watching everything around them.
And they don't talk for nothing either! They are very sage and weight their words constantly to make sure they won't say something that might hurt someone.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

Xanth

Quote from: no_leaf_clover on December 03, 2014, 08:25:05
On the other hand I've seen some of these apparently naive people you're talking about.  I've probably seemed the same way to people before in certain situations (-- with secret help from secret allies).  To someone else they may seem naive while "being taken advantage of" or etc., but they might be having a completely different experience, be seeing the entire external reality as 1 being and the act of "being taken advantage of" as some sort of communion and communication with the divine.  Then say they get "cheated" out of a few dollars or something by some street scam artist, for example, and they're sitting there afterward just as wide-eyed as before, and people may be cracking jokes about them while their mind was just blown from seeing some intimate part of God through the life of the scam artist.  Could easily be worth a couple of bucks.  :P
There is so much misunderstanding and misinformation out there regarding "enlightenment" and "awakening"...

Here are a couple videos I've linked through my website I think that anyone "searching" (LOL) for enlightenment will find... well... enlightening.  :)

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2014/02/13/adyashanti-myths-of-enlightenment-awakening/
http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2014/03/21/adyashanti-different-qualities-awakening-2/

They're both done by Adyashanti.

PlasmaAstralProjection

Here is a prefect example of someone that lost his ego while taking a psychedelic. Mind you it's an extremely rare to totally lose ego in a psychedelic experience. I don't take psychedelics but I think they still have things to teach humanity.

What I pasted here is an exert from a book that can be found here.
http://www.dmtsite.com/5-meo-dmt/experience/descriptions.html

It's from a book Tryptamine Palace: 5-MeO-DMT and the Sonoran Desert Toad by James Oroc

Mind you this is the peak of two psychedelic trips. This is truly transcending the ego. Yet only temporarily as one must return. This is why liberation through meditation and things like astral projection is better in the long run. Enjoy.

"Colors entered my perception in impossible layers as the rate of dissintegration increased in exponential leaps. Any concept of 'time' or relative 'space' fractured into a quadrillion holographic pixels and was carried off along with the rest of manifest existence, in impossibly fast motion by another quadrillion overly-anxious, nano-sized, carnivorous ants. 'I' seemed to travel some immense distance in an instant, or more like a non-instant. My perception at once exploded and imploded infinitely. Matrix/lattice-like color patterns gave birth in non-time to explosions of sparks which were galactic in the inward scope and scale. Simultaneously, these explosions recured, compounded, echoed, moving my consciousness inward and outward in unimaginable magnitude, 'eventually' into the yawning maw of Nothingness. All ability to fathom halted. All sense of 'I' became totally transparant, instantly g-o-n-e. No Self/Ego. Breathing, heartbeat, Earth life, past experience... never existed. Absorbed into the infinite, timeless, all permeating, Singularity; the sheer titanic bliss of the Void. This lasted forever. It was a Death, ummm... what can I possibly call 'It'?. It was a state? The anihilation of experience, actually. Infinite, unmanifest potential. Words do not really work, here..."

"Within the space of a few heartbeats, I had completely expanded into God.  Eyes open in absolute awe and wonder, the room dissolved, my ego dissolved, my entire world dissolved.  Everything I had ever known or thought or felt dissolved away into absolute pure nothingness.  There was nothing to see, nothing to experience, nothing to perceive.  Absolutely pure nothingness.  And this nothingness was pure consciousness.  And it was love.  Infinite love and infinite perfection.  Everything was in a state of divine perfection.  Nothing was out of place.  Nothing was either good or bad.  Nothing was right or wrong.  Everything was simply perfect in this pure consciousness, this pure state of being.  And this state was not a thing.  It was not an object of perception.  It was not a concept.  It was not an emotion.  It was not anything that I could describe in any way.  In fact, when asked later, I vaguely described it as "living starlight," but even that was not accurate, for in truth, it was nothing.

But that no-thing was everything.
It was God.
And it was my deepest nature.
I was one with God.

Not my ego self.  That was pretty thoroughly obliterated through the impossibly fast 5-MeO-DMT expansion.  It was not as though I identified my personal sense of self with God.  Rather, it was that the deepest core of my being, not my ego-identity, was identical with God.  As a finite being in a body with a sense of self and identity, I was an expression of God.  At my core, at the very deepest level, my nature as an incarnated being was one with that pure consciousness, that infinite love, that infinite source of creative energy in which all things exist in absolute and unquestionable perfection.  In those few heartbeats, this beautiful and sacred medicine had opened me up to the All.  I had accepted my own divinity.

"Thank you, God!" I called out as my hands reached up towards that infinite expanse of nothingness, a few moments after the hit of psychedelic medicine flowed out of my lungs.  Eyes wide open, gaping in sheer awe at the mysterium tremendum, I embraced God, and the embrace was returned."

Kzaal

Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on December 14, 2014, 22:57:26
Here is a prefect example of someone that lost his ego while taking a psychedelic. Mind you it's an extremely rare to totally lose ego in a psychedelic experience. I don't take psychedelics but I think they still have things to teach humanity.

What I pasted here is an exert from a book that can be found here.
http://www.dmtsite.com/5-meo-dmt/experience/descriptions.html

It's from a book Tryptamine Palace: 5-MeO-DMT and the Sonoran Desert Toad by James Oroc

Mind you this is the peak of two psychedelic trips. This is truly transcending the ego. Yet only temporarily as one must return. This is why liberation through meditation and things like astral projection is better in the long run. Enjoy.

"Colors entered my perception in impossible layers as the rate of dissintegration increased in exponential leaps. Any concept of 'time' or relative 'space' fractured into a quadrillion holographic pixels and was carried off along with the rest of manifest existence, in impossibly fast motion by another quadrillion overly-anxious, nano-sized, carnivorous ants. 'I' seemed to travel some immense distance in an instant, or more like a non-instant. My perception at once exploded and imploded infinitely. Matrix/lattice-like color patterns gave birth in non-time to explosions of sparks which were galactic in the inward scope and scale. Simultaneously, these explosions recured, compounded, echoed, moving my consciousness inward and outward in unimaginable magnitude, 'eventually' into the yawning maw of Nothingness. All ability to fathom halted. All sense of 'I' became totally transparant, instantly g-o-n-e. No Self/Ego. Breathing, heartbeat, Earth life, past experience... never existed. Absorbed into the infinite, timeless, all permeating, Singularity; the sheer titanic bliss of the Void. This lasted forever. It was a Death, ummm... what can I possibly call 'It'?. It was a state? The anihilation of experience, actually. Infinite, unmanifest potential. Words do not really work, here..."

"Within the space of a few heartbeats, I had completely expanded into God.  Eyes open in absolute awe and wonder, the room dissolved, my ego dissolved, my entire world dissolved.  Everything I had ever known or thought or felt dissolved away into absolute pure nothingness.  There was nothing to see, nothing to experience, nothing to perceive.  Absolutely pure nothingness.  And this nothingness was pure consciousness.  And it was love.  Infinite love and infinite perfection.  Everything was in a state of divine perfection.  Nothing was out of place.  Nothing was either good or bad.  Nothing was right or wrong.  Everything was simply perfect in this pure consciousness, this pure state of being.  And this state was not a thing.  It was not an object of perception.  It was not a concept.  It was not an emotion.  It was not anything that I could describe in any way.  In fact, when asked later, I vaguely described it as "living starlight," but even that was not accurate, for in truth, it was nothing.

But that no-thing was everything.
It was God.
And it was my deepest nature.
I was one with God.

Not my ego self.  That was pretty thoroughly obliterated through the impossibly fast 5-MeO-DMT expansion.  It was not as though I identified my personal sense of self with God.  Rather, it was that the deepest core of my being, not my ego-identity, was identical with God.  As a finite being in a body with a sense of self and identity, I was an expression of God.  At my core, at the very deepest level, my nature as an incarnated being was one with that pure consciousness, that infinite love, that infinite source of creative energy in which all things exist in absolute and unquestionable perfection.  In those few heartbeats, this beautiful and sacred medicine had opened me up to the All.  I had accepted my own divinity.

"Thank you, God!" I called out as my hands reached up towards that infinite expanse of nothingness, a few moments after the hit of psychedelic medicine flowed out of my lungs.  Eyes wide open, gaping in sheer awe at the mysterium tremendum, I embraced God, and the embrace was returned."

Really cool, and this state is true, I've had my past with drugs and all I can say is that theses experiences often give us the perspective of truly being without ego.
It's very simple because when you're high like that, you drop everything else and concentrate only on the experience. But all you see is a reflection of what you see in real life. You drop the ego and see everything clearly as they are. I've seen manifestations and signs of the truth about our universe a couple of times while high and every time when I came back, I wished I'd go back. Like literally thousands of signs where I see how everything is in perfect balance, even with all the wars and every thing that would make someone immediately turn back and tell me I'm crazy and say that I'm stupid to think the world is balanced with all that stuff. Yet I've had those signs thrown at me so hard it would hit em and leave em with the jaw opened, or seeking for the closest asylum.
If you let go the ego, and any thoughts about yourself, others and judging... all that stuff that makes you struggle, and that you feel like you have no control over because you're so used to it that it has became natural. If all that goes away, you'll feel exactly the same as this guy (appart from maybe the hallucinations) you'd feel ecstatic everyday.
If no one would talk to you, you would make your own perception.
If someone is dropped in our world, and nobody tells him about war and he's in a rich country with all the stuff he wants, he's gonna be in that ecstatic state for sure. He'd feel like he was in paradise everyday.

The problem is even if everything is perfect, there's always someone that will complain about it, and another one will listen to him and eventually you have thousands of people who don't like their paradise for a reason or another.

That's why I try to make my own opinion before trusting someone else's.
Rumours are annoying too because they implant a false statement in your head.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.